Current Events > The US should be a little more liberal with capital punishment.

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RoyalAirForce
05/25/18 7:52:21 AM
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All murderers and rapists should get death in my opinion.
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DarkTransient
05/25/18 7:52:50 AM
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Agree. Don't let the mods hear you say that though.
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Roshon
05/25/18 7:54:03 AM
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No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.
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DarkTransient
05/25/18 7:54:45 AM
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Roshon posted...
No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.


Whereas you see that as a reason to object, I see it as a minor issue that needs to be ironed out.
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RoyalAirForce
05/25/18 7:55:28 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
Roshon posted...
No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.


Whereas you see that as a reason to object, I see it as a minor issue that needs to be ironed out.

One round is a couple dozen cents I think
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Roshon
05/25/18 7:56:13 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
Roshon posted...
No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.


Whereas you see that as a reason to object, I see it as a minor issue that needs to be ironed out.


Can you iron it out without suggesting cruel and unusual punishment?
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Darkman124
05/25/18 7:56:22 AM
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that's not very christian
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RoyalAirForce
05/25/18 7:57:31 AM
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Roshon posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Roshon posted...
No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.


Whereas you see that as a reason to object, I see it as a minor issue that needs to be ironed out.


Can you iron it out without suggesting cruel and unusual punishment?

They shouldn't have committed a cruel and unusual crime if they didn't want a cruel and unusual punishment.
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DarkTransient
05/25/18 7:57:42 AM
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Roshon posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Roshon posted...
No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.


Whereas you see that as a reason to object, I see it as a minor issue that needs to be ironed out.


Can you iron it out without suggesting cruel and unusual punishment?


Yes, because the majority of this cost and time doesn't come from actually performing the execution. And in terms of time, life in prison usually takes longer in the first place.
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RoyalAirForce
05/25/18 7:58:03 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
that's not very christian

How so? Justice is a universal trait shared by every honest man.
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Tmaster148
05/25/18 7:58:20 AM
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RoyalAirForce posted...
Darkman124 posted...
that's not very christian

How so? Justice is a universal trait shared by every honest man.


Killing people for revenge isn't justice.
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Darkman124
05/25/18 7:58:39 AM
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RoyalAirForce posted...
How so? Justice is a universal trait shared by every honest man.


judge not lest ye be judged
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RoyalAirForce
05/25/18 7:59:27 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
RoyalAirForce posted...
Darkman124 posted...
that's not very christian

How so? Justice is a universal trait shared by every honest man.


Killing people for revenge isn't justice.

Yes it is. How is I not? Tea time with a murderer certainly isn't.
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Turtlebread
05/25/18 8:01:12 AM
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it's ok, no one important will care about your opinion.
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RoyalAirForce
05/25/18 8:01:45 AM
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Turtlebread posted...
it's ok, no one important will care about your opinion.

I am important.
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weekoldhotdog
05/25/18 8:29:07 AM
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Solid Sonic
05/25/18 8:29:59 AM
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TC wants to bring back the posse.
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Solid Sonic
05/25/18 8:31:02 AM
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Also any 18-year old caught sleeping with a 16-year old should be sentenced to 40 years in prison.
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frozenshock
05/25/18 9:08:03 AM
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Anyone who drives 1 mph over the speed limit should be sentenced to 1000 years in prison with possibility of parole after 500 years. If the parole is refused after 500 years, there is another chance after 750 years.
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DevsBro
05/25/18 9:18:15 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
RoyalAirForce posted...
How so? Justice is a universal trait shared by every honest man.


judge not lest ye be judged

Not really what that means. It means you shouldn't tell people they're going to hell.

A better thought on the matter is that none of us is innocent.
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pinky0926
05/25/18 9:19:32 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
Roshon posted...
No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.


Whereas you see that as a reason to object, I see it as a minor issue that needs to be ironed out.


How do you guys suppose we do that

Relax the legal system? Remove "beyond reasonable doubt" as a necessary clause?
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Darkman124
05/25/18 9:21:16 AM
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DevsBro posted...
Darkman124 posted...
RoyalAirForce posted...
How so? Justice is a universal trait shared by every honest man.


judge not lest ye be judged

Not really what that means. It means you shouldn't tell people they're going to hell.

A better thought on the matter is that none of us is innocent.


it also means those attempting to follow the word of christ probably shouldn't be deciding anyone's crimes are sufficient to execute them

'before taking the speck out of your brother's eye, take the plank out of your own eye' also applies
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DevsBro
05/25/18 9:28:47 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
it also means those attempting to follow the word of christ probably shouldn't be deciding anyone's crimes are sufficient to execute them

'before taking the speck out of your brother's eye, take the plank out of your own eye' also applies


Hm, I guess I could see that.

On that note, it's important to remember that the whole speck plank thing is appended with SO THAT you can see clearly to help your brother.
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Sativa_Rose
05/25/18 9:29:28 AM
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You should move to Saudi Arabia. You will enjoy it. I still think they have public executions sometimes.
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Darkman124
05/25/18 9:30:07 AM
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DevsBro posted...

Hm, I guess I could see that.

On that note, it's important to remember that the whole speck plank thing is appended with SO THAT you can see clearly to help your brother.


yep

can't help your brother if he's dead though ;)
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DevsBro
05/25/18 9:31:32 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/25/18 9:31:33 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
You should move to Saudi Arabia. You will enjoy it. I still think they have public executions sometimes.


Cept he actually wants to punish rapists and not rape victims.
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darkjedilink
05/25/18 9:33:46 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
RoyalAirForce posted...
Darkman124 posted...
that's not very christian

How so? Justice is a universal trait shared by every honest man.

Killing people for revenge isn't justice.

Depending on the circumstances, it most certainly can be.

That being said, far too many innocent people have been executed already, and DNA evidence has exonerated hundreds of people from death row. That's why I think expanding capital punishment is definitely a bad idea.
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CyricZ
05/25/18 9:43:31 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
You should move to Saudi Arabia. You will enjoy it. I still think they have public executions sometimes.


Cept he actually wants to punish rapists and not rape victims.

Quite frankly, I just think he wants to punish. It's the only reason the death penalty exists, really.
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darkjedilink
05/25/18 9:47:32 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
You should move to Saudi Arabia. You will enjoy it. I still think they have public executions sometimes.

Cept he actually wants to punish rapists and not rape victims.

Quite frankly, I just think he wants to punish. It's the only reason the death penalty exists, really.

Now, yeah. It used to be an effective deterrent.
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Balrog0
05/25/18 9:50:13 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
It used to be an effective deterrent.


when?
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Solid Sonic
05/25/18 10:13:40 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
CyricZ posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
You should move to Saudi Arabia. You will enjoy it. I still think they have public executions sometimes.

Cept he actually wants to punish rapists and not rape victims.

Quite frankly, I just think he wants to punish. It's the only reason the death penalty exists, really.

Now, yeah. It used to be an effective deterrent.

Hey, if Im pissed enough to kill the guy cucking me then death penalty be damned.
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Bio1590
05/25/18 10:16:14 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
CyricZ posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
You should move to Saudi Arabia. You will enjoy it. I still think they have public executions sometimes.

Cept he actually wants to punish rapists and not rape victims.

Quite frankly, I just think he wants to punish. It's the only reason the death penalty exists, really.

Now, yeah. It used to be an effective deterrent.

Do you like get off on spouting bullshit or something? You're fucking crazy.
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Questionmarktarius
05/25/18 10:17:24 AM
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RoyalAirForce posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Roshon posted...
No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.


Whereas you see that as a reason to object, I see it as a minor issue that needs to be ironed out.

One round is a couple dozen cents I think

Nitrogen gas is essentially free.
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Dyinglegacy
05/25/18 10:17:47 AM
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RoyalAirForce posted...
All murderers and rapists should get death in my opinion.


Depends on the context.

Crime of passion murder? Maybe. Murdering someone for the fun of it? Absolutely.

Adult rape? While reprehensible, it isn't murder. The victim is till alive, although maybe just a shell of their former self. Life in prision should suffice.

Child rape? I would agree.
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DirkDiggles
05/25/18 10:19:17 AM
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Roshon posted...
No. It not only takes forever, but it costs lots of money.


A tree is free and you can reuse rope.
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Oatcakes
05/25/18 10:19:45 AM
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> Don't want the government to have the power to fine/jail you for saying things.

> Do want the government to have the power over whether you literally live or die.

Makes sense to me.
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Gheb
05/25/18 10:20:56 AM
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How many falsely convicted people being executed are acceptable under your proposed system?
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Solid Sonic
05/25/18 10:29:30 AM
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Gheb posted...
How many falsely convicted people being executed are acceptable under your proposed system?

Not THAT many. False convictions arent super-commonz
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Bio1590
05/25/18 10:31:46 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Gheb posted...
How many falsely convicted people being executed are acceptable under your proposed system?

Not THAT many. False convictions arent super-commonz

More than 1 is too many
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darkjedilink
05/25/18 10:31:53 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Gheb posted...
How many falsely convicted people being executed are acceptable under your proposed system?

Not THAT many. False convictions arent super-commonz

Last I looked, America executed 12 innocent people, and released hundreds of innocent people from Death Row.

That's too many.
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Gheb
05/25/18 10:34:21 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
Gheb posted...
How many falsely convicted people being executed are acceptable under your proposed system?

Not THAT many. False convictions arent super-commonz

More than 1 is too many

Yup. Especially considering that if we "ironed out" the expensive and long appeals process, we'd be executing way more than one.
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