Board 8 > Phoenix Wright Mafia Topic 4: Cornered, SCUM!

(+) Yeah! (+)

wow Corrik, how does it feel to be the new me
once I was the scum roleblocker defender, now the tables have turned
I can go on gloating, but I will stop for now

eaedwards6400 posted...

ScareChan posted...

Also Chris doesnt say 'dead' just missing, so if he is kidnapped he can reneter the game if we get the kidnapper today, right?

I haven't seen that in a game.

Arti posted...

I think Fire Emblem mafia is the only one I remember that had a kidnapper

the kidnapper somehow captured a member of the other scum team

yup
that was me
the other scumteam snuck in a win once I died
and that might also be the case here, since Chris is not listed as dead

so what I am saying is, I wouldnt put it passed Chris to have himself kidnapped just to come out golden once his kidnapper dies
though that makes me think only someone who knows about kidnappers would want to make Chris disappear so we would keep guessing about the lynch divide from yesterday
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Arti posted...

I won a scum game where I parked my vote on our extra kill near the beginning of day one and stayed there until he was lynched at the end of the day.

It's possible. Not likely, but possible.

hell I won a scumgame where I helped hammer a scumpartner

doesnt make me want to look more at the deadpool voters than the chris voters though
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Those aren't super helpful posts Death
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and flavorwise, a kidnapper makes sense

anyway some thoughts I had yesterday
I was still leading with the idea that Chris and Deadpool might both be scum, as Chris went out of his way to not bother with deadpool for so long, but that went out the window mostly once chris voted the scum roleblocker

Alakazams posts I dont like for most of the end of the day, but for a while I also wondered if he was scums fallguy
but that too depended on Chris being scum, which is doubtful, so I am coming back to Zam just looking terrible. Particularly when he voted Corrik despite saying he worships Corrik
alakazam insisting trucy wright has to be a town claim is almost dumb and naive enough for me to start considering him town again though

On the other hand corrik still defended Zam (and deadpool) and looked terrible too (wtf was even up with him putting words in zams mouth and Chris agreeing with it)
inversely, I like MI for pointing out all the contradictions Zam was making

then there was foolmo, who sounded too whiny about deadpool getting votes, as if he wanted to know what deadpool did wrong
voting Deadpool and then dropping that vote for Chris, a very scummy thing to do

I appreciated crescent making people focus on deadpool again, and DYL and MI for sticking with never trusting deadpool

did not appreciate Han trying to move with his Shad tangent, I feel like scum was desperate at this point to get town away from their roleblocker

then chris started pushing sceptile, and some players certainly seemed tempted by it (Shad, Arti, Leo)
Leo also tried to make something out of pushing Nana once Chris voted deadpool
he came through in the end, but I cant deny that this was perhaps scum throwing in the towel

for his part, at least FD didnt take the bait, but he still stayed on zam which was useless at that point

and sceptile going back to voting Chris I also didnt like

so Crescent, MI, DYL went up in my books
Leo is kinda eh, Zam is a mystery, Shad I could see as scum or an easy target
Han, Foolmo and Sceptile went down closer to scumtown
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RogueNoble posted...

Those aren't super helpful posts Death

too bad
you dont get to decide what I talk about or what I find useful
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hell whats even the point of your post, leo?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

This is a pretty weak defense because you did leave yourself open and eager to voting for Chris, if the opportunity presented itself. But by the time that happened, Prof was already pretty well established as a solid lynch target.

This is a lie.

You are a liar and this is a lie.

My stance on Chris did not waver from the beginning to the end of day 1.

Repost for new page. Also because foolmo replied to something else and was around, but didn't address this.

if I haven't made it clear enough yet then allow me to be frank. I will not be accepting any bullshit arguments. If you are going to come at me, then you had better come at me with real facts.

The notion that I "soft defended prof" is a lie.

The idea that I "left myself open to vote chris" is a lie and not as all representative of anything I said about chris yesterday.

This suggestion that I "did nothing day 1" is also a lie and is made even more ridiculous coming from the person who you could argue did the LEAST during day 1.

.

Obviously I can't stop you from saying what you want to say, but when you come at me with this kind of shit then be prepared for me to shut it down. So by all means keep it up and reveal yourself to be the intellectually dishonest scum that you are.

I'm not going to be around 24/7, but when I am around I'm doing things. I work almost every night from 3 PM until 11 PM (PST). I sleep shortly after that and then take my wife to work first thing in the morning. That means mostly you'll have me from mid morning to early afternoon.

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What you can expect from me tomorrow is:

A look back at deadpool's interactions day 1 and what (if anything can be gleaned). He is confirmed to be scum and as such he is the only dead person who had full knowledge of town/scum yesterday.

I will similarly be going through Red/Chris posts seeing if anyone's interactions towards them mean anything more now that they are confirmed town. (Well, 99.99% confirmed in chris' case anyways). This isn't as much to go on as the deadpool interactions, but it's something.

I will also summarize what made Zam look so bad and why I could still easily see him being scum. The fact that we nailed scum on day 1 does not mean that the other lynches with multiple votes are automatically safe.

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So expect at least that much from me tomorrow, as well as properly reading the day 2 posts (i've only had time to skim thus far and take umbridge with the bullshit that was being directed my way).
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htaeD posted...

hell whats even the point of your post, leo?

To inspire you to talk about the game and not unhelpful conspiracy theories. 254 is a more helpful post and I take full credit for it.
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-.-

sure

besides, I like posting conspiracies and possibly getting a chance to be right about them afterwards

also I was the kidnapper, so I felt I had to clarify some things anyway
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some minor things

I'm fine with being not liked (have only read up to #150), but it shouldn't be because I was railing against Chris and not Prof since I was very obviously going against Prof

it doesnt matter what you say when your vote still ended up on NOT deadpool at the end of the day
so yes it should be

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

The fact that I was unable to post for most of day 1 means I can't comment on other players' shortcomings when I see them when catching up?

Really, that's a yes or no.

The fact that you DIDN'T post content for almost the entirety of day 1 means you don't get to tell me that I didn't either. I don't care if its because you couldn't or wouldn't, the fact is that you didn't. I would entertain the notion of your critique if it were actually true. But the fact that its not makes me particularly disinclined to hear it, least of all from you.

I call BS on this
Nana has an excuse, and if its true, then he has no way of knowing which of the other inactives is inactive for a good reason or not
He should get the right to criticize inactives just like any other player
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RogueNoble posted...

Those aren't super helpful posts Death

To be fair the thought crossed my mind about scum scumnapping scum Chris too. But it's nothing to worry about now
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htaeD posted...

-.-

sure

besides, I like posting conspiracies and possibly getting a chance to be right about them afterwards

also I was the kidnapper, so I felt I had to clarify some things anyway

What?
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in the Fire Emblem game people talked about

with the two scumteams

it was a whole wide mess
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Hey Alakazam. Your free pass is now gone.
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Foolmo, Shad, Forceful, Han.

These are who I am considering today.
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Corrik posted...

Hey Alakazam. Your free pass is now gone.

Hmmm I'm awake... but getting ready for work.

I'll do some casting magic of my own during my first break.
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Not a fan of the 11pm my-time starts. Oh well.

So I was wrong on Chris. I thought it was a scum-scum lynch. However, I was satisfied with Deadpool's lynch, it was still a close #2 for me. I voted him early and thought his posts later on were pretty poor, and tried to call attention to them. So I don't think I was that far off.

I see eaed decided to join the game. His posts... actually look pretty good to me. He did seem to hit the game running, which I appreciate.

Han's attempts to splinter the vote onto Shad and me, and then a last-minute vote onto Prof in a way that wasn't clearly decisive for the vote looks bad. His attitude towards prof was also very detached, in a kind of half-bussed way.

I think Zam is still likely to be town due to Deadpool's voting of him and sticking on him for so long. Will take some time to look over those voters as well as my misguided fellow Chris supporters. I'll be at work all day but I'll be following the topic and can probably sneak in some analysis.
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End of Topic 1 Votals

LiquidOshawott posted...

[5] Alakazam - Red, (Scare), Han, NewDonker, Arti, FD
[5] Prof - Shad, MI, Sceptile, Leo, Chris
[3] Chris - Corrik, Puns, Scare
[1] Corrik - (Puns,) (Shad,) Prof
[1] No Lynch - Arti
[0] FD - (Chris)
[0] Shad - (Han)
[0] Scare - (MI)
[0] Leo - (Puns)
[0] Chris - (Scare)


With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Day Ends at 11 PM EDT on Sunday, May 27th, 2018, or when lynch reaches a majority

I feel it's unlikely we are scum-scum right here with less than 24 hours to go.
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Corrik posted...

Foolmo, Shad, Forceful, Han.

These are who I am considering today.

good list actually, though I want to look at sceptile as well
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also Nana
dont exclude such possibilities
when both players were on those trains because of their own hard to ignore actions
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

This is a pretty weak defense because you did leave yourself open and eager to voting for Chris, if the opportunity presented itself. But by the time that happened, Prof was already pretty well established as a solid lynch target.

This is a lie.

You are a liar and this is a lie.

My stance on Chris did not waver from the beginning to the end of day 1.

Repost for new page. Also because foolmo replied to something else and was around, but didn't address this.

if I haven't made it clear enough yet then allow me to be frank. I will not be accepting any bullshit arguments. If you are going to come at me, then you had better come at me with real facts.

The notion that I "soft defended prof" is a lie.

The idea that I "left myself open to vote chris" is a lie and not as all representative of anything I said about chris yesterday.

This suggestion that I "did nothing day 1" is also a lie and is made even more ridiculous coming from the person who you could argue did the LEAST during day 1.

.

Obviously I can't stop you from saying what you want to say, but when you come at me with this kind of shit then be prepared for me to shut it down. So by all means keep it up and reveal yourself to be the intellectually dishonest scum that you are.

I'm not going to be around 24/7, but when I am around I'm doing things. I work almost every night from 3 PM until 11 PM (PST). I sleep shortly after that and then take my wife to work first thing in the morning. That means mostly you'll have me from mid morning to early afternoon.

.

What you can expect from me tomorrow is:

A look back at deadpool's interactions day 1 and what (if anything can be gleaned). He is confirmed to be scum and as such he is the only dead person who had full knowledge of town/scum yesterday.

I will similarly be going through Red/Chris posts seeing if anyone's interactions towards them mean anything more now that they are confirmed town. (Well, 99.99% confirmed in chris' case anyways). This isn't as much to go on as the deadpool interactions, but it's something.

I will also summarize what made Zam look so bad and why I could still easily see him being scum. The fact that we nailed scum on day 1 does not mean that the other lynches with multiple votes are automatically safe.

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So expect at least that much from me tomorrow, as well as properly reading the day 2 posts (i've only had time to skim thus far and take umbridge with the bullshit that was being directed my way).

This is the wrong tense for a town player.

If you are Town, you CAN see him as scum.

If you are scum, you COULD see him as scum [if he's actually Town and you need him to look a certain way for a ML]

##Vote: FD
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htaeD posted...

also Nana
dont exclude such possibilities
when both players were on those trains because of their own hard to ignore actions

It won't be excluded, but it's still less likely due to the combination of "scum wants a counter lynch" and just "randomness."
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foolm0r0n posted...

ultimately we need an explanation for why MI spent so long on Chris, jumped off, and then floundered before landing on Prof

ScareChan posted...

[7] Chris - (Corrik), (Puns), Scare, (Corrik), Puns, (foolmo), (Leo), (Alakazam), Sceptile, Alakazam, Corrik, foolmo, prof

???????
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Also I'll build my case on turbo more when I'm at work and can type easier.
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My Immortal posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

ultimately we need an explanation for why MI spent so long on Chris, jumped off, and then floundered before landing on Prof

ScareChan posted...

[7] Chris - (Corrik), (Puns), Scare, (Corrik), Puns, (foolmo), (Leo), (Alakazam), Sceptile, Alakazam, Corrik, foolmo, prof

???????

didnt even notice that
and the way he talked, he couldnt have been thinking of someone else..
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htaeD posted...

and flavorwise, a kidnapper makes sense

anyway some thoughts I had yesterday
I was still leading with the idea that Chris and Deadpool might both be scum, as Chris went out of his way to not bother with deadpool for so long, but that went out the window mostly once chris voted the scum roleblocker

Alakazams posts I dont like for most of the end of the day, but for a while I also wondered if he was scums fallguy
but that too depended on Chris being scum, which is doubtful, so I am coming back to Zam just looking terrible. Particularly when he voted Corrik despite saying he worships Corrik
alakazam insisting trucy wright has to be a town claim is almost dumb and naive enough for me to start considering him town again though

On the other hand corrik still defended Zam (and deadpool) and looked terrible too (wtf was even up with him putting words in zams mouth and Chris agreeing with it)
inversely, I like MI for pointing out all the contradictions Zam was making

then there was foolmo, who sounded too whiny about deadpool getting votes, as if he wanted to know what deadpool did wrong
voting Deadpool and then dropping that vote for Chris, a very scummy thing to do

I appreciated crescent making people focus on deadpool again, and DYL and MI for sticking with never trusting deadpool

did not appreciate Han trying to move with his Shad tangent, I feel like scum was desperate at this point to get town away from their roleblocker

then chris started pushing sceptile, and some players certainly seemed tempted by it (Shad, Arti, Leo)
Leo also tried to make something out of pushing Nana once Chris voted deadpool
he came through in the end, but I cant deny that this was perhaps scum throwing in the towel

for his part, at least FD didnt take the bait, but he still stayed on zam which was useless at that point

and sceptile going back to voting Chris I also didnt like

so Crescent, MI, DYL went up in my books
Leo is kinda eh, Zam is a mystery, Shad I could see as scum or an easy target
Han, Foolmo and Sceptile went down closer to scumtown

Don't feel like DYL was that much of a factor. He also never showed any serious desire to lynch anyone but Alakazam and never stopped tunneling him late.

(Also MI never showed even much of an interest in the Chris lynch most of the time. Was calling him town almost all day.)

I haven't fact checked FDs claim that fool was making up wrong information about him but he claims it.

Fool made up (and is still saying today) that Chris defended deadpool

Made up that I voted Chris.

What's going on fool
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My Immortal posted...

I haven't fact checked FDs claim that fool was making up wrong information about him but he claims it.

Fool made up (and is still saying today) that Chris defended deadpool

Made up that I voted Chris.

What's going on fool

What was your stance on Alakazam yesterday again?

fair enough about DYL

it is surprising he never chose a side at the end of the day (votewise)
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Crescent-Moon posted...

My Immortal posted...

I haven't fact checked FDs claim that fool was making up wrong information about him but he claims it.

Fool made up (and is still saying today) that Chris defended deadpool

Made up that I voted Chris.

What's going on fool

What was your stance on Alakazam yesterday again?

for a while I did think this as well, and even after I saw Chris' vote on deadpool I wondered if that was just because Chris had to vote deadpool
but thats a pretty remote possibility to me now
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actually the more I read of DYL, the more I forget which posts I liked of him
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Shaduln posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Do we tie this up for more discussion? Or do we let the chips fall where they fall?

Who do you want dead between Chris and prof?

Calls for a potential tie very late when he's on neither lynch, gets some backlash, and then..

Dark Young Link posted...

red13n posted...

you vote for who you think is scum.

Well that is what I'm doing.

Shaduln posted...

Who do you want dead between Chris and prof?

Well the problem for me is that I don't trust either of them. >_>

Calls Alakazam scum again and totally avoids the question.

DYL: Why were you comfortable on a splinter vote so late if you didn't like either of the leaders either?

Crescent-Moon posted...

My Immortal posted...

I haven't fact checked FDs claim that fool was making up wrong information about him but he claims it.

Fool made up (and is still saying today) that Chris defended deadpool

Made up that I voted Chris.

What's going on fool

What was your stance on Alakazam yesterday again?

Yesterday I thought he was scum. He made so many bad / contradictory posts but when he wasn't getting traction I moved back to deadpool who I also thought was scum.

Today I'm thinking because of how yesterday went down he's more likely town but he still keeps making really bad posts. Whoever called out his RPing post as feeling fake is 100% correct.
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Ugh turbo doesn't have a signature so his iso'ing will be more obnoxious.
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I will miss most of the day phase on Wednesday.
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The first that that pinged me on turbo I talked about yesterday already but I'll reiterate here.

Corrik claims miller
Turbo votes Corrik when that was Corrik's only post. He was 1 of 3 and was the first (some points for this, I guess). I called out the 3 Corrik votes as bad. Turbo unvotes:

turbopuns2 posted...

My vote on Corrik wasn't for his claim. It was his behavior around the claim and because I wanted to make sure he was engaged. And that's basically done at this point. Don't see any benefit of keeping at it.

##Unvote

I'm working with a moving company today for the next few hours then I'll be available more tonight. In the meantime if LEO would post that would be swell.

Which okay, you want Corrik to be engaged sure. But then he doesn't even respond on interact with anything Corrik said after he came back so it rings as disingenuous. Not to mention "behavior around the claim". What behavior? Literally all there was was the claim post.

But the worst part of this was he then argues with me over his vote and the usefulness of it. It got Corrik and other people talking, he claims! Scum-Turbo is someone who when he does something he always wants credit for it. Proof: This very game we were criticizing his listing all his scum members in his first post in Feast of Crows Mafia. He chimed in saying it was a brilliant play. So this whole interaction felt like scum-turbo to me. It was a bad vote but he had to justify it.
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The next thing he does is sheep Corrik onto Chris. After his vote he calls out that he doesn't really have a read on Chris yet.

turbopuns2 posted...

I can't speak intelligently about the nuances of scum chris vs town chris, but the lynch is a very interesting one which will certainly bear fruit in some form or another. Especially because red and corrik are uniting there.

and this is where his vote remained for the rest of the day. On a lynch he can't speak about but found interesting. Red never votes Chris (need to check this) but it was still worth parking his vote all day over his initially suspicions! Side-note: Crescent calls out Turbo for this being bad at the time.

turbopuns2 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Seemed kind of lazy, especially given Red never voted you.

Red not voting chris was a major reason why I did vote chris. Hence me nudging red to switch over. Wanted to see if he'd put his money where his mouth is. Kind of a buzzkill that he didn't.

Turbo even calls out here that red didn't follow him!

turbopuns2 posted...

Nana, Arti, any interest in a Chris lynch?

Hasn't actually expressed any thoughts that Chris is scum (just an interesting lynch!) but trying to bring others to it.

turbopuns2 posted...

Corrik posted...

It is not a dead end. He needs to be lynched.

Not saying he is town, I just mean I haven't seen any new reason since the initial callout to push his lynch, and based on people's reactions to the lynch it doesn't seem to have a lot of chance of progressing.

Still not moving even though he sees no reason for the lynch or thinks it has a chance of progressing.

End topic 1.
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Oh I was wrong. Turbo does unvote Chris and ends up back on him which isn't how I remembered. HANG ON.
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Okay so Turbo does unvote Chris to vote deadpool. So now I'm more interested in what moved him back to Chris.

turbopuns2 posted...

profDEADPOOL posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

Prof, do you stand by your corrik vote, or what?

For now it still feels decent, but I'm revisiting it after sleeping on the alternative theory proposed of Zam scumslipping and confirming Corrik town.

My revisitation when I wake up will determine if I unvote or not.

OK I guess, I mean it really sounds like you should be voting Zam based on the things you are saying. What do you have to say about corrik that's unrelated to Zam?

Here's an instance of turbo coaching deadpool.

turbopuns2 posted...

Definitely down for putting some pressure on chris, since it would probably create some useful content nearer deadline. I don't see any reason to leave prof at the moment though considering chris said he won't be posting for a few more hours anyway. Basically prof has done nothing to look better and chris has done nothing to look worse, so letting up on prof seems dumb.

turbopuns2 posted...

I hear you Scare. I just...am annoyed, I guess. So many people not really playing, deadpool just hogging the day. I don't want to relent there.

My most recent experience with chris in a game was feast for crows and I feel like scum chris was very loud and action-oriented there. Tried to misdirect town's flow a lot, with much success.

turbopuns2 posted...

Exactly lol. I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. Lose-Lose. Let probable scum go for free, or keep spurring activity? And at that rate, voting chris wouldn't accomplish anything in the short term either. Hopefully foolmo gives us something.

Feels like Turbo looking for a reasoning to get his vote off the roleblocker.

turbopuns2 posted...

Alright, fuck it we'll do it live.

##unvote
##Vote: Chris

@DoomTheGyarados You have been weighed and measured, and found dangerous. How about you claim for us.

Red. Vote chris please.

I am in the Leo camp as well of hang deadpool if he doesn't claim.

Here's where he moves back after... really saying nothing bad about Chris again.
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turbopuns2 posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Im not sure how my knowing Chris outside of Mafia has any bearing though. He's never pulled any mafia-punches with me as a result of our friendship and I don't feel like it has given me any particular insight into his play.

My logic was, Chris doesn't have as much of a place in recent mafia meta, which makes reading him in general muddier, thus having more insight into him irl would be relevant and your all's interactions could prove more revealing. Do you have a reason not to lynch him?

turbopuns2 posted...

Similar to my Corrik challenge: Please explain to me why town you reacts this way. Then explain why scum you reacts this way.

Nowhere does he call Chris scum. Nowhere does he indicate that he is evening leaning scum on Chris. Everything about why Turbo votes Chris is insight.

Turbo's last post of D1:
turbopuns2 posted...

profDEADPOOL posted...

True.

Was wanting me to show up for much longer tho. Pinged me to try and get me to back in topic 1, was consistent in saying I wasn't giving much(which I don't deny at all. Work on Saturday killed me and I had another long day today(thankfully the shitty weather meant it wasn't busy so I recovered somewhat) so my dealing with people brain hasn't been anywhere near my peak).

Deadpool.

Humor me. Please summarize from start-of-game to present, your reads and engagement (or lack thereof) for the entire game.

Like basically if you were to tell someone you know irl about this game and every thought you ever had about it. Give me that.

And then... nothing. Today he comes in with a prepared reasoning:

turbopuns2 posted...

Ahuh. Well, GG team. I was so absorbed in my phone while out last night that my friend was getting pissed at me, so I eventually relented and just put it down. My reaction when I saw the flip: "oh my f*** yes"

This feels fake to me as well. Why did he come in justifying his absence? Because he knew he ended with a vote on the town that countered the scum roleblocker when he NEVER ONCE indicated that he thought Chris was scum and he DID indicate that he thought deadpool was scum. He knew that he put himself in the position that he would have to move his vote, so he afk'd out. Even if his friend was annoyed, this was an hour and a half before deadline. He couldn't find the time to move his vote TO SOMEONE HE THOUGHT WAS SCUM? No. Bull.

Turbo is scum.
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On a different note, I'm wary of all three people who popped in today saying they would've spent the day saying Chris is scum and it was scum/scum. You think in a 21 person game a scum team with Chris was so inept it couldn't produce a counter lynch?
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So all of the things you're saying about puns makes sense. But might I play devil's advocate, if he was scum that whole time why would he be looking for Red's approval so much and then have Red killed that night.
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He was looking for Red's approval to lynch Chris so that he would have better justification for his vote to be on Chris.

I think turbo was convinced that Red would vote Chris and that he could then piggyback off that and also point the finger of blame at Red.

That didn't happen, so what good was Red to him after that?
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I buy it. Sounds very good to me.
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But wait that also seems fairly transparent. Wouldn't we all be able to see that he was the one that told Red to jump on the ship?
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I can answer that
because Red would have called him out on that even before he was killed

good summary btw

So many people not really playing, deadpool just hogging the day. I don't want to relent there.

even back then everyone yelled at this for it being the obvious contradiction that it is
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ehrm that was a response to eaeds first post
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Red was the first to voice suspicion of Chris though.

red13n posted...

this is probably scum chris.

So he wasn't telling Red to jump on the ship as much as he was just urging red to follow through with a vote. He already stated he was just following Red:

I can't speak intelligently about the nuances of scum chris vs town chris, but the lynch is a very interesting one which will certainly bear fruit in some form or another. Especially because red and corrik are uniting there.

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htaeD posted...

I can answer that
because Red would have called him out on that even before he was killed

good summary btw

So many people not really playing, deadpool just hogging the day. I don't want to relent there.

even back then everyone yelled at this for it being the obvious contradiction that it is

Vote Turbo with me and Leo! Get him feeling pressure when he wakes up and is here.

I need a turbo claim.
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My Immortal posted...

On a different note, I'm wary of all three people who popped in today saying they would've spent the day saying Chris is scum and it was scum/scum. You think in a 21 person game a scum team with Chris was so inept it couldn't produce a counter lynch?

They did. Alakazam.
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