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Corrik
05/29/18 6:51:36 PM
#351:


Jakyl25 posted...
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9hgxaD5mPf8/VlTIY4X28SI/AAAAAAAAxiQ/MC6f00-nGuQ/s1600-h/donald%252520trump%25255B4%25255D.png

Remember when Trump shared fake racial stats on Twitter?

If he made that it would be racist. However likely just sharing fake news he saw. If everyone that shared fake news was racist my entire Facebook is guilty lol.
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red sox 777
05/29/18 6:51:53 PM
#352:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik, what did you make of Trumps claim that Judge Curiel could not be fair because hes Hispanic?

Link.

That said, I believe I remember this and it was because it was in reference to something that dealt with Hispanics.


This was after Trump said Mexico was sending criminals and rapists to the US. He said since Judge Curiel had Mexican ancestry he could not be impartial.
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Corrik
05/29/18 6:52:31 PM
#353:


red sox 777 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik, what did you make of Trumps claim that Judge Curiel could not be fair because hes Hispanic?

Link.

That said, I believe I remember this and it was because it was in reference to something that dealt with Hispanics.


This was after Trump said Mexico was sending criminals and rapists to the US. He said since Judge Curiel had Mexican ancestry he could not be impartial.

Yeah, not racist.

Racist shit is like downright offensive shit. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/29/18 6:55:25 PM
#354:


Corrik posted...
That said, I believe I remember this and it was because it was in reference to something that dealt with Hispanics.


so that makes trump's "he can't do his job" claim ok? the judge was blinded by bias because he was dealing with hispanics and he's mexican himself? why wasn't trump making this complaint about white judges who deal with white people?
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Mr Lasastryke
05/29/18 6:56:17 PM
#355:


Corrik posted...
Racist shit is like downright offensive shit.


i think it's pretty fucking offensive.
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 6:56:29 PM
#356:


Corrik posted...

Racist s*** is like downright offensive s***. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?
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red sox 777
05/29/18 6:56:35 PM
#357:


Wait, so if I don't like how a judge is ruling on my case, I should be able to make public statements against his race, and then demand that he recuse himself? That seems way too exploitable.
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Lopen
05/29/18 6:57:23 PM
#358:


It's not necessarily racist but yeah it only isn't if he's applying that standard to everyone. In which case it's less racist and more stupid but I digress.
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 6:57:23 PM
#359:


Corrik posted...
If everyone that shared fake news was racist my entire Facebook is guilty lol.


You said it not me
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LapisLazuli
05/29/18 6:58:57 PM
#360:


I am so looking forward to this worthless topic being locked in 6 to 8 hours.

Maybe we can try not fucking it up next time.
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 6:59:25 PM
#361:


Lopen posted...
It's not necessarily racist but yeah it only isn't if he's applying that standard to everyone. In which case it's less racist and more stupid but I digress.


Im really more trying to establish a pattern of behavior
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Reg
05/29/18 7:00:07 PM
#362:


LapisLazuli posted...
I am so looking forward to this worthless topic being locked in 6 to 8 hours.

Maybe we can try not fucking it up next time.

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Corrik
05/29/18 7:00:46 PM
#363:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

Racist s*** is like downright offensive s***. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?

Comparing black people to monkeys is indeed racist.
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LapisLazuli
05/29/18 7:01:02 PM
#364:


Looks like it may be more like 3 to 4, so even better.
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 7:02:02 PM
#365:


https://www.buzzfeed.com/nidhiprakash/puerto-rico-death-toll-harvard-study

I still remember when Corrik dug his heels in on the idea that we did everything we could to help Puerto Rico
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 7:02:53 PM
#366:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

Racist s*** is like downright offensive s***. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?

Comparing black people to monkeys is indeed racist.


But not saying someone cant do their job because theyre Mexican
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 7:07:03 PM
#367:


We need law and order. If we dont have it, were not going to have a country, Trump said. African Americans and Hispanics are living in hell. You walk down the street and you get shot.

Trump also warned of gangs roaming the streets and said African American communities are being decimated by crime.


First debate
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:07:16 PM
#368:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

Racist s*** is like downright offensive s***. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?

Comparing black people to monkeys is indeed racist.


But not saying someone cant do their job because theyre Mexican

He didn't say they couldn't do their job because they were Mexican. He said they couldn't do their job without bias in the scenario and should recuse due to the case being in regards to ethnicity he shared.
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red sox 777
05/29/18 7:07:57 PM
#369:


Trump's idea is so novel that it is hard to classify at first. I think the argument boils down to, the judge can't rule on Trump's case because Trump is racist. Not because he is in any way unqualified as a judge, but because he could be biased against Trump because of Trump's racist statements.

At any rate, I think this logic can't be allowed to fly. Or litigants with weak cases will be rushing to declare themselves racist against all races, so no one can rule on their case.
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StealThisSheen
05/29/18 7:08:13 PM
#370:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

Racist s*** is like downright offensive s***. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?

Comparing black people to monkeys is indeed racist.


But not saying someone cant do their job because theyre Mexican

He didn't say they couldn't do their job because they were Mexican. He said they couldn't do their job without bias in the scenario and should recuse due to the case being in regards to ethnicity he shared.


But he hasn't ever said a white judge should recuse themself for being white

How is it not racist to say "Because of your race, you cannot be impartial?"
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:08:22 PM
#371:


Jakyl25 posted...
We need law and order. If we dont have it, were not going to have a country, Trump said. African Americans and Hispanics are living in hell. You walk down the street and you get shot.

Trump also warned of gangs roaming the streets and said African American communities are being decimated by crime.


First debate

Sounds sympathetic to African Americans and Mexicans who have to live in fear in their communities.

Stop twisting. Just provide a definitive racist comment.
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:09:24 PM
#372:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

Racist s*** is like downright offensive s***. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?

Comparing black people to monkeys is indeed racist.


But not saying someone cant do their job because theyre Mexican

He didn't say they couldn't do their job because they were Mexican. He said they couldn't do their job without bias in the scenario and should recuse due to the case being in regards to ethnicity he shared.


But he hasn't ever said a white judge should recuse themself for being white

How is it not racist to say "Because of your race, you cannot be impartial?"

When has there ever been a case regarding a whites ethnicity under his time period? Can you even point to an example? It was a ruling regarding the ethnicity. Not a ruling involving a person of that ethnicity. .
He didn't say the judge couldn't remove bias because the defendant was Mexican. Lol
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TheRock1525
05/29/18 7:10:42 PM
#373:


Please stop quoting Corrik. I can only stand so much Trump excusing.

"Trump just murdered three people."
"He just created three new jobs. You're welcome."
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StealThisSheen
05/29/18 7:11:03 PM
#374:


"You cant do your job because of your race" is 100% racist no matter how you try to twist it, sorry

But let's run with it

Corrik, because of your race, you CANNOT be unbiased in discussion regarding any other race. Therefore, you must recuse yourself from this topic.
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red sox 777
05/29/18 7:12:20 PM
#375:


Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

Racist s*** is like downright offensive s***. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?

Comparing black people to monkeys is indeed racist.


But not saying someone cant do their job because theyre Mexican

He didn't say they couldn't do their job because they were Mexican. He said they couldn't do their job without bias in the scenario and should recuse due to the case being in regards to ethnicity he shared.


But he hasn't ever said a white judge should recuse themself for being white

How is it not racist to say "Because of your race, you cannot be impartial?"

When has there ever been a case regarding a whites ethnicity under his time period? Can you even point to an example? It was a ruling regarding the ethnicity. Not a ruling involving a person of that ethnicity. .
He didn't say the judge couldn't remove bias because the defendant was Mexican. Lol


It was not a ruling regarding the ethnicity. That was the Trump University case, the plaintiffs were a large group, presumably from multilple different races (and probably majority white given the demographics of the USA). Race was only injected into it because Trump said his campaign statements would be used against him.
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:12:27 PM
#376:


StealThisSheen posted...
"You cant do your job because of your race" is 100% racist no matter how you try to twist it, sorry

But let's run with it

Corrik, because of your race, you CANNOT be unbiased in discussion regarding any other race. Therefore, you must recuse yourself from this topic.

Still wasn't what was said. You are again twisting.

He said you cannot remove bias to the case about Hispanic immigration or whatever due to Hispanic ethnicity.

Which is likely not a true statement, but it is also not a racist statement.
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:14:02 PM
#377:


red sox 777 posted...
Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?

Comparing black people to monkeys is indeed racist.


But not saying someone cant do their job because theyre Mexican

He didn't say they couldn't do their job because they were Mexican. He said they couldn't do their job without bias in the scenario and should recuse due to the case being in regards to ethnicity he shared.


But he hasn't ever said a white judge should recuse themself for being white

How is it not racist to say "Because of your race, you cannot be impartial?"

When has there ever been a case regarding a whites ethnicity under his time period? Can you even point to an example? It was a ruling regarding the ethnicity. Not a ruling involving a person of that ethnicity. .
He didn't say the judge couldn't remove bias because the defendant was Mexican. Lol


It was not a ruling regarding the ethnicity. That was the Trump University case, the plaintiffs were a large group, presumably from multilple different races (and probably majority white given the demographics of the USA). Race was only injected into it because Trump said his campaign statements would be used against him.

Oh then I am mistaken. Then it was Trump just trying to find a way out of a judge that he thought would rule against him. Thanks. That is why I asked for a link instead of having to go off of memory.
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 7:14:36 PM
#378:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

Racist s*** is like downright offensive s***. Not that you can somehow twist it to be racist.


ALL OF THIS is downright offensive shit.

Do you think Roseannes tweet was or was not racist?

Comparing black people to monkeys is indeed racist.


But not saying someone cant do their job because theyre Mexican

He didn't say they couldn't do their job because they were Mexican. He said they couldn't do their job without bias in the scenario and should recuse due to the case being in regards to ethnicity he shared.


The case was about Trump University. It had nothing to do with Hispanic people. Trump claimed Curiel wasnt being fair because he was Hispanic and Trump had said what he said about Mexico and the wall

Even PAUL RYAN called that almost the dictionary definition of a racist statement.
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StealThisSheen
05/29/18 7:15:08 PM
#379:


Corrik posted...
Still wasn't what was said. You are again twisting.

He said you cannot remove bias to the case about Hispanic immigration or whatever due to Hispanic ethnicity.

Which is likely not a true statement, but it is also not a racist statement.


Yes, that's literally racist, because he's saying a judge, whose job is to be impartial, cannot be impartial because of ethnicity. So he's literally saying "You cannot do your job in this situation because of your race."
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CelesMyUserName
05/29/18 7:15:22 PM
#380:


Corrik just keeps showing his self and still gets responses
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 7:15:49 PM
#381:


Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
"You cant do your job because of your race" is 100% racist no matter how you try to twist it, sorry

But let's run with it

Corrik, because of your race, you CANNOT be unbiased in discussion regarding any other race. Therefore, you must recuse yourself from this topic.

Still wasn't what was said. You are again twisting.

He said you cannot remove bias to the case about Hispanic immigration or whatever due to Hispanic ethnicity.

Which is likely not a true statement, but it is also not a racist statement.


It is if you only apply it to minorities and not whites

If he wants to say white judges cant be impartial in cases involving whites people too then okay.
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StealThisSheen
05/29/18 7:16:06 PM
#382:


Also, yeah, the case literally had nothing to do with race. The case was against Trump himself, and Trump basically said "Because I've been racist, you will be impartial"
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Mr Lasastryke
05/29/18 7:16:29 PM
#383:


Corrik posted...
Then it was Trump just trying to find a way out of a judge that he thought would rule against him.


welcome to "corrik interprets every racist trump comment as not being racist," episode #376
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:17:52 PM
#384:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
Still wasn't what was said. You are again twisting.

He said you cannot remove bias to the case about Hispanic immigration or whatever due to Hispanic ethnicity.

Which is likely not a true statement, but it is also not a racist statement.


Yes, that's literally racist, because he's saying a judge, whose job is to be impartial, cannot be impartial because of ethnicity. So he's literally saying "You cannot do your job in this situation because of your race."

Don't see it.

If he said he couldn't do the job because his ethnicity doesn't afford him a high enough IQ to properly do his job. Then sure. That would be racist.

He was linking to comments he said prior and a judge who he thought would rule against him to try and find a way out. I see nothing that says he couldn't do his job because of his ethnicity directly. It was in response to comments. Which again is a false assertion. But one he tried to use to get a more beneficial judge.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/29/18 7:18:17 PM
#385:


Jakyl25 posted...
Trump claimed Curiel wasnt being fair because he was Hispanic and Trump had said what he said about Mexico and the wall


addendum: trump also claimed curiel was "very proud of his mexican heritage."
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StealThisSheen
05/29/18 7:18:23 PM
#386:


"Trump saying a Mexican can't be impartial against him since he's been racist towards Mexicans isn't racist. It's just Trump trying to get away with a crime!"

Okay then.
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 7:18:26 PM
#387:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
We need law and order. If we dont have it, were not going to have a country, Trump said. African Americans and Hispanics are living in hell. You walk down the street and you get shot.

Trump also warned of gangs roaming the streets and said African American communities are being decimated by crime.


First debate

Sounds sympathetic to African Americans and Mexicans who have to live in fear in their communities.

Stop twisting. Just provide a definitive racist comment.


Okay I give up. You are the most misinformed, ignorant person Ive ever had the pleasure of speaking to, and I regularly argue with Vlado
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The Mana Sword
05/29/18 7:20:05 PM
#388:


Okay I give up. You are the most misinformed, ignorant person Ive ever had the pleasure of speaking to, and I regularly argue with Vlado

alright were finally getting somewhere
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StealThisSheen
05/29/18 7:20:41 PM
#389:


Like, I've defended Corrik before

And for that, I apologize.

This is literally a case where Corrik is going "Ha ha, guys, you can't provide a racist statement that Trump has made!" because he literally won't accept ANY statement as racist if it came from Trump

Fuck off, Corrik.
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:20:41 PM
#390:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
"You cant do your job because of your race" is 100% racist no matter how you try to twist it, sorry

But let's run with it

Corrik, because of your race, you CANNOT be unbiased in discussion regarding any other race. Therefore, you must recuse yourself from this topic.

Still wasn't what was said. You are again twisting.

He said you cannot remove bias to the case about Hispanic immigration or whatever due to Hispanic ethnicity.

Which is likely not a true statement, but it is also not a racist statement.


It is if you only apply it to minorities and not whites

If he wants to say white judges cant be impartial in cases involving whites people too then okay.

Not really how it works.

That said, his comment was inaccurate and an obvious hail Mary attempt to get a better judge or to at least to get the judge to err on his side to prove there was no bias.

I mean, if there is so many examples, just show one utterly definitive one. This can't be the best you have. It is all interpretation.
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:21:50 PM
#391:


StealThisSheen posted...
Like, I've defended Corrik before

And for that, I apologize.

This is literally a case where Corrik is going "Ha ha, guys, you can't provide a racist statement that Trump has made!" because he literally won't accept ANY statement as racist if it came from Trump

Fuck off, Corrik.

Not my fault so many of you actively go out looking for racism and can't handle it when someone shows you it is not as definitive as you say.
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 7:23:03 PM
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:23:05 PM
#393:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
We need law and order. If we dont have it, were not going to have a country, Trump said. African Americans and Hispanics are living in hell. You walk down the street and you get shot.

Trump also warned of gangs roaming the streets and said African American communities are being decimated by crime.


First debate

Sounds sympathetic to African Americans and Mexicans who have to live in fear in their communities.

Stop twisting. Just provide a definitive racist comment.


Okay I give up. You are the most misinformed, ignorant person Ive ever had the pleasure of speaking to, and I regularly argue with Vlado

Ad hominem. Liberal 101. I literally know how every conversation ever is going to go with you all.

Try to get on topic of race. Go ad hominem. It is literally every time.
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KamikazePotato
05/29/18 7:23:44 PM
#394:


The Mana Sword posted...
Okay I give up. You are the most misinformed, ignorant person Ive ever had the pleasure of speaking to, and I regularly argue with Vlado

alright were finally getting somewhere

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StealThisSheen
05/29/18 7:24:31 PM
#395:


We thought Corrik was lawful neutral, but he's literally just a Trumper.

We thought he was lawful neutral because he always goes "If Trump says something racist, he should be punished," or "If Trump does X, he should be punished"

But then no matter what happens, he just goes "Trump didn't say/do X"
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Suprak the Stud
05/29/18 7:24:44 PM
#396:


Jakyl25 posted...
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9hgxaD5mPf8/VlTIY4X28SI/AAAAAAAAxiQ/MC6f00-nGuQ/s1600-h/donald%252520trump%25255B4%25255D.png

Remember when Trump shared fake racial stats on Twitter?


Holy shit how have I not seen this.

Not only is this racist, it is offensive how dumb this is, and mind boggling how dumb (and racist) you would have to be to share this.
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05/29/18 7:24:49 PM
#397:


StealThisSheen posted...
"Trump saying a Mexican can't be impartial against him since he's been racist towards Mexicans isn't racist. It's just Trump trying to get away with a crime!"


i think the missing link that corrik isn't seeing is "trump was trying to get away with a crime BY saying something racist."
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 7:25:53 PM
#398:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9hgxaD5mPf8/VlTIY4X28SI/AAAAAAAAxiQ/MC6f00-nGuQ/s1600-h/donald%252520trump%25255B4%25255D.png

Remember when Trump shared fake racial stats on Twitter?


Holy shit how have I not seen this.

Not only is this racist, it is offensive how dumb this is, and mind boggling how dumb (and racist) you would have to be to share this.


At least he deleted that one!
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Corrik
05/29/18 7:26:04 PM
#399:


Jakyl25 posted...
Heres one I hadnt heard of before, for the road

http://documents.latimes.com/trump-personally-approved-ads-slamming-indian-tribe-could-be-good/

I can't read some of this, but which parts are the racist parts? It is definitely some low brow below the belt mud slinging for sure. I didn't see anything of racist note. Mostly just accusing competing casinos to be formed up of people doing illegal things. Though I was not able to read every document so I may have missed something.
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KamikazePotato
05/29/18 7:27:21 PM
#400:


StealThisSheen posted...
We thought Corrik was lawful neutral

No one except the people who never stopped responding to him thought this
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