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Doctor Foxx
05/29/18 8:16:51 PM
#51:


LinkPizza posted...
Some are now doing areas where they cook without meat, especially places that are becoming vegetarian and vegan friendly. But I think it's still relatively new to most places.

Depends on your area. My area where are hundreds of veg friendly restaurants. There will only be more options in the future as people wake up and realize they don't need meat to eat well and be happy and healthy.

LinkPizza posted...
It's possible. But now always. It depends on your diet. Just because I like meat and animal byproduct doesn't mean it actually makes up all of my diet. Just a good portions. But it doesn't always mean that I'll definitely have a heart attack. And at the point where I have to change my diet or die, I'd probably die, tbh...

There's a direct link to animal product consumption and heart disease. You may be fine in the end but you are increasing your risk. Americans die of cardiovascular issues with alarming frequency. Vegetarian diets are also prescribed by doctors to reverse heart disease. Does it mean you will have a heart attack if you eat meat or cheese? No. But it does mean you're increasing your chances of many diet related health issues with high mortality rates that substantially lower your quality of living. That's worth considering

LinkPizza posted...
But it seems like it would take a while. I have cut out pretty much most of the normal foods I consume multiple times in my life. Like when I went to Australia for a little over a month. Or when I started basic training. Basic training was 2 months, plus all the months for tech school was about 10 months or so. Whenever during that 10 months I got to eat something I hadn't had in a while, I was craving it rather than not wanting it...

Same thing with quitting smoking. Within a week without animal products you notice a difference for sure.

You do you. You're clearly opposed to giving it an honest try for whatever reason. Your excuses are really all adding up to defeatism as you don't want to. And if you don't you don't. It's just a shame more people don't put in that bit of effort to try something different they would be surprised.
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LinkPizza
05/29/18 9:44:59 PM
#52:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Depends on your area. My area where are hundreds of veg friendly restaurants. There will only be more options in the future as people wake up and realize they don't need meat to eat well and be happy and healthy.

That's good for the people who want them, I guess... And I'm glad they're getting more options.

Doctor Foxx posted...
There's a direct link to animal product consumption and heart disease. You may be fine in the end but you are increasing your risk. Americans die of cardiovascular issues with alarming frequency. Vegetarian diets are also prescribed by doctors to reverse heart disease. Does it mean you will have a heart attack if you eat meat or cheese? No. But it does mean you're increasing your chances of many diet related health issues with high mortality rates that substantially lower your quality of living. That's worth considering

I can see there being a direct link to it. And I could see it increasing the chance of it happening. But I don't know how much it really is increasing the chance. I mean, I don't constantly eat meat. But I know people who do who also seem to be fine. I think if you take care of yourself, and eat a balanced diet(even if it contains a lot of meat), you'll probably be fine. But I can't say for sure. I can only base it off of what I see and know...

Doctor Foxx posted...
Same thing with quitting smoking. Within a week without animal products you notice a difference for sure.

But I've gone longer than a week without meat multiple times. And I never really felt different. Honestly. The only thing they may have been different was I was really hungry for some after however much time...

Doctor Foxx posted...
You do you. You're clearly opposed to giving it an honest try for whatever reason. Your excuses are really all adding up to defeatism as you don't want to. And if you don't you don't. It's just a shame more people don't put in that bit of effort to try something different they would be surprised.

I never tried to hide that I just didn't want to do it. Haha. I'm glad that people can do it and be happy. I personally know for a fact that I wouldn't be happy. My favorite food of all time is cheese. I can just give it up and hope I stop liking it any time soon. Changing pretty much my whole diet would seriously make me not want to eat and I'd probably throw up what little I could stomach. And I'm 100% OK with not going vegan. It's not like if I go vegan, I won't die. It may help me live longer(though I'd probably be ready to die), or maybe I'd live just as long as I would if I didn't change my diet. But I have no real reason to do it. I've never tried to actually stop anyone from being vegan, though. And I assume most of them are probably very healthy. I could date one, though. Because of meals and such...Haha.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/29/18 9:50:28 PM
#53:


facorite food is pizza followed closely by sushi.

zero chance i would ever go vegetarian (i'm not one of those people who thinks seafood isn't meat)
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Doctor Foxx
05/29/18 9:53:24 PM
#54:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
facorite food is pizza followed closely by sushi.

zero chance i would ever go vegetarian (i'm not one of those people who thinks seafood isn't meat)

Sushi is still one of my favorite foods and it's very vegetarian friendly. Pizza too. I have great vegan options for both in my neighborhood and they're also easy to make at home. Vegan diet doesn't mean being without either of those things

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Krazy_Kirby
05/29/18 9:56:40 PM
#55:


it isn't pizza w/o mozzarella. favorite pizza is pepperoni, pineapple, jalapeno.... just cheese pizza is barely pizza

favorite sushi is spicy shrimp inari followed by california roll. no vegetarian option there
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LinkPizza
05/29/18 9:59:38 PM
#56:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
it isn't pizza w/o mozzarella. favorite pizza is pepperoni, pineapple, jalapeno.... just cheese pizza is barely pizza

favorite sushi is spicy shrimp inari followed by california roll. no vegetarian option there

When I was young, I use to eat only cheese pizza. But as I got older, I started trying out lots of other toppings. I usually get a mix of them. My three favorite foods are cheese, pizza, and Mac & Cheese. Cheese is number one, and the other two are like tied.

For sushi, I like it, but I have to be careful or which ones I eat. I'm allergic to shellfish. Which was always weird since I grew up in Maryland. But there are some that I can eat. I just usually have to ask whoever is making it...

Also, I don't think it's just cheese pizza that she's talking about. I think it has to be something else. Or like something else to replace the cheese. Vegans don't use real cheese. But they could put a bunch of veggies on the pizza, too.
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Doctor Foxx
05/29/18 10:01:06 PM
#57:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
it isn't pizza w/o mozzarella

That's just not true. Pizza didn't always have dairy cheese. And for anyone lactose intolerant non-dairy cheeses can be really helpful options. I enjoyed those long before going vegan. Mozzarella is better for pizza imo but I've accidentally eaten it a few times and don't miss it over vegan options at this point. It's extremely greasy and salty.

Krazy_Kirby posted...
favorite sushi is spicy shrimp inari followed by california roll. no vegetarian option there

It may surprise you if you haven't tried much vegan food but there's vegan shrimp that's dead on and crab sticks that nail the texture and flavor

I enjoyed all this stuff before I stopped eating meat and liked it because you never got random shell out tail pieces or an unclean shrimp full of shit
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shadowsword87
05/29/18 10:02:10 PM
#58:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
it isn't pizza w/o mozzarella. favorite pizza is pepperoni, pineapple, jalapeno.... just cheese pizza is barely pizza


I mean, you can just not have the pepperoni to make it vegetarian.

It's not like if you eat it your taste buds will explode and God will come down to smite you.
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LinkPizza
05/29/18 10:09:02 PM
#59:


shadowsword87 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
it isn't pizza w/o mozzarella. favorite pizza is pepperoni, pineapple, jalapeno.... just cheese pizza is barely pizza


I mean, you can just not have the pepperoni to make it vegetarian.

It's not like if you eat it your taste buds will explode and God will come down to smite you.

I think he wants the pepperoni because the pepperoni is the savory to go with the pineapple's sweet. For the sweet and savory mix. Also, he would have to replace the cheese with something... Well, for vegan, at least. Cheese is good for vegetarian...
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Doctor Foxx
05/29/18 10:15:20 PM
#60:


LinkPizza posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
it isn't pizza w/o mozzarella. favorite pizza is pepperoni, pineapple, jalapeno.... just cheese pizza is barely pizza


I mean, you can just not have the pepperoni to make it vegetarian.

It's not like if you eat it your taste buds will explode and God will come down to smite you.

I think he wants the pepperoni because the pepperoni is the savory to go with the pineapple's sweet. For the sweet and savory mix. Also, he would have to replace the cheese with something... Well, for vegan, at least. Cheese is good for vegetarian...

This is about being vegetarian. If you're lacto ovo veg you can still have mozzarella. Not all kinds of vegetarians eat dairy

The other thing is there are quite a few cheeses (including good ol mozzarella) that aren't even vegetarian. Anything made with animal rennet is not suitable for vegetarians. It contains baby cow stomach and does require animals to be slaughtered. Kosher and halal dairy will not have rennet.

Same with gelatin. If it doesn't specify vegetarian gelatin, it's derived from animal parts, and is not vegetarian friendly.
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Mead
05/29/18 10:17:39 PM
#61:


I could never give up cheese

It is too important to my religion
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Krazy_Kirby
05/29/18 10:20:17 PM
#62:


you just don't seem to get my point.

idc if it's possibly healthier to not eat meat.
idc about the animals i eat.

i like the taste. vegan/vegetarian "replacements" don't taste the same
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Mead
05/29/18 10:22:09 PM
#63:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
you just don't seem to get my point.

idc if it's possibly healthier to not eat meat.
idc about the animals i eat.

i like the taste. vegan/vegetarian "replacements" don't taste the same


Does anyone care what you eat
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Doctor Foxx
05/29/18 10:27:35 PM
#64:


Mead posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
you just don't seem to get my point.

idc if it's possibly healthier to not eat meat.
idc about the animals i eat.

i like the taste. vegan/vegetarian "replacements" don't taste the same


Does anyone care what you eat

I don't. Though I always hope people will choose the option that causes the least harm and suffering. It's their choice.

I just hate the excuses

A person can eat vegan shrimp sushi and vegan California rolls and vegan pizza until they get fat if they want to.

People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point

To his credit at least admitting you don't care about your health, the environment, or animals suffering needlessly is honest
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LinkPizza
05/29/18 10:29:10 PM
#65:


Mead posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
you just don't seem to get my point.

idc if it's possibly healthier to not eat meat.
idc about the animals i eat.

i like the taste. vegan/vegetarian "replacements" don't taste the same


Does anyone care what you eat

I care about what I eat. I do agree with Mead on post #61. I feel the same. But I also agree with Krazy_Kirby's post #62. I do believe that the replacements don't have the exact same taste. It's good that it works for others. But I have to do what's best for me... And my taste buds, in this case...
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LinkPizza
05/29/18 10:31:34 PM
#66:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Mead posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
you just don't seem to get my point.

idc if it's possibly healthier to not eat meat.
idc about the animals i eat.

i like the taste. vegan/vegetarian "replacements" don't taste the same


Does anyone care what you eat

I don't. Though I always hope people will choose the option that causes the least harm and suffering. It's their choice.

I just hate the excuses

A person can eat vegan shrimp sushi and vegan California rolls and vegan pizza until they get fat if they want to.

People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point

To his credit at least admitting you don't care about your health, the environment, or animals suffering needlessly is honest

I do agree that a lot of it can have a significant taste difference, though. Sure, it can sometimes taste similar, but it isn't exactly the same. And even small differences can be noticeable in certain foods. Especially in your favorite foods. But it's all about whether you can live with what's different or not... But I do feel the same way as him. I mentioned in other topics, but I have said before that health isn't my number one concern, though the military would beg to differ. Haha. I feel I'd rather be happy and die young than to live a life where I'm miserable. Usually it's when talking about Subway or soda, though...
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Krazy_Kirby
05/29/18 10:35:38 PM
#67:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Mead posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
you just don't seem to get my point.

idc if it's possibly healthier to not eat meat.
idc about the animals i eat.

i like the taste. vegan/vegetarian "replacements" don't taste the same


Does anyone care what you eat

I don't. Though I always hope people will choose the option that causes the least harm and suffering. It's their choice.

I just hate the excuses

A person can eat vegan shrimp sushi and vegan California rolls and vegan pizza until they get fat if they want to.

People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point

To his credit at least admitting you don't care about your health, the environment, or animals suffering needlessly is honest


you can have a perfectly healthy diet even if you eat meat.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/29/18 10:37:03 PM
#68:


if you "don't care" what i eat then stop caring about my opinion on chocolate.
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wwinterj25
05/29/18 10:43:36 PM
#69:


Doctor Foxx posted...
People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point


Vegetarians and vegans love to tell people they don't eat meat and/or animal products too and go into great detail on how their lifestyle choice is the best thing ever when nobody actually gives a shit what they eat or don't.
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LinkPizza
05/29/18 10:46:53 PM
#70:


wwinterj25 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point


Vegetarians and vegans love to tell people they don't eat meat and/or animal products too and go into great detail on how their lifestyle choice is the best thing ever when nobody actually gives a shit what they eat or don't.

I have seen that before. Normally when people are trying to decide where to go to eat. Or like at parties and stuff.

On a side note, my SO said when they opened a Vegan restaurant is his old town, his friends wanted to try to go vegan, so he did it with them. And he said he will never try that again. Haha.
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Mead
05/29/18 10:48:09 PM
#71:


wwinterj25 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point


Vegetarians and vegans love to tell people they don't eat meat and/or animal products too and go into great detail on how their lifestyle choice is the best thing ever when nobody actually gives a shit what they eat or don't.


Lotsa confirmation bias there though

The obnoxious ones are the ones who stand out, a lot of non meat eaters you might never know unless it came up
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shadowsword87
05/29/18 10:48:57 PM
#72:


wwinterj25 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point


Vegetarians and vegans love to tell people they don't eat meat and/or animal products too and go into great detail on how their lifestyle choice is the best thing ever when nobody actually gives a shit what they eat or don't.


I see people b****ing about vegetarians/vegans more than them actually b****ing about other people.
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wwinterj25
05/29/18 10:51:05 PM
#73:


LinkPizza posted...
I have seen that before. Normally when people are trying to decide where to go to eat. Or like at parties and stuff.


I mean I get it if they are out eating or something and want the vegetarian/vegan option but going on and on about it is really irksome. This one lass at a BBQ i went to a few years ago is vegetarian but she said not to be worried and she bought her own food as to not make the host have to go out of their way to accommodate her. I personally found that to be respectful and on that note know not all vegetarian/vegan folk make it out to be a big deal.

shadowsword87 posted...
I see people b****ing about vegetarians/vegans more than them actually b****ing about other people.


Like I said before some folk care way too much about what others eat or don't eat.

Mead posted...
The obnoxious ones are the ones who stand out, a lot of non meat eaters you might never know unless it came up


You don't know what most folk eat or don't eat unless it comes up/they tell you and that's how it should be.
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Doctor Foxx
05/29/18 11:07:57 PM
#74:


LinkPizza posted...
wwinterj25 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point


Vegetarians and vegans love to tell people they don't eat meat and/or animal products too and go into great detail on how their lifestyle choice is the best thing ever when nobody actually gives a shit what they eat or don't.

I have seen that before. Normally when people are trying to decide where to go to eat. Or like at parties and stuff.

On a side note, my SO said when they opened a Vegan restaurant is his old town, his friends wanted to try to go vegan, so he did it with them. And he said he will never try that again. Haha.

Yes because when you're dining together dietary concerns need to be brought up. Same for religious or allergic reasons for those dietary concerns. If people are asking where to eat I'll just request a place with at least one solid veg option. People I don't eat with I don't discuss it with and I've been around with a few people bashing vegans with no prompting. I usually keep quiet because if you mention them that you are a vegan they get hostile or uncomfortable. It's interesting to watch people get in a tizzy about people not eating meat...

The reason more restaurants are expanding their vegetarian offerings has a lot to do with the meat eaters that veg people dine with. Places with no worthwhile veg options will not be a choice for a group with a vegetarian.

For what it's worth my family that are not veg use me as an excuse to go to vegan places more often.
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Doctor Foxx
05/29/18 11:11:41 PM
#75:


wwinterj25 posted...
I mean I get it if they are out eating or something and want the vegetarian/vegan option but going on and on about it is really irksome. This one lass at a BBQ i went to a few years ago is vegetarian but she said not to be worried and she bought her own food as to not make the host have to go out of their way to accommodate her. I personally found that to be respectful and on that note know not all vegetarian/vegan folk make it out to be a big deal.

This is standard protocol for vegetarian people. They don't want to eat the wrong food anyway. People with food allergies also do this.

I have veggie burgers in my freezer to take to cookouts and to be polite I will take food offered by hosts if they fumbled a bit with being strictly vegan. So many vegetarian options have eggs or milk. As long as there's no meat I'll thank them and eat it. I appreciate the effort on their part.
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LinkPizza
05/29/18 11:12:49 PM
#76:


Doctor Foxx posted...
LinkPizza posted...
wwinterj25 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
People sure love to tell you why they are special and can never go vegetarian even though basically every vegetarian said that at some point


Vegetarians and vegans love to tell people they don't eat meat and/or animal products too and go into great detail on how their lifestyle choice is the best thing ever when nobody actually gives a shit what they eat or don't.

I have seen that before. Normally when people are trying to decide where to go to eat. Or like at parties and stuff.

On a side note, my SO said when they opened a Vegan restaurant is his old town, his friends wanted to try to go vegan, so he did it with them. And he said he will never try that again. Haha.

Yes because when you're dining together dietary concerns need to be brought up. Same for religious or allergic reasons for those dietary concerns. If people are asking where to eat I'll just request a place with at least one solid veg option. People I don't eat with I don't discuss it with and I've been around with a few people bashing vegans with no prompting. I usually keep quiet because if you mention them that you are a vegan they get hostile or uncomfortable. It's interesting to watch people get in a tizzy about people not eating meat...

The reason more restaurants are expanding their vegetarian offerings has a lot to do with the meat eaters that veg people dine with. Places with no worthwhile veg options will not be a choice for a group with a vegetarian.

For what it's worth my family that are not veg use me as an excuse to go to vegan places more often.

I agree that it probably needs to be brought up when choosing a place to eat. I was just saying that's where I usually see it. Either when picking a restaurant or at a party(birthday party, cookout/BBQ, etc...)

Doctor Foxx posted...
People with food allergies also do this.

I think it really depends on the allergy. I'm allergic to shellfish, but I can still usually go to most restaurants. Even in Maryland, home of the Blue Crab, there aren't many places I can't go...
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mastermix3000
05/30/18 7:16:20 AM
#77:


Holy shit

I didnt expect this thread to blow up, some of yall gotta chill

Anyway everything happens for a reason I guess. Have a couple packs of turkey burger in the fridge. Plan on finishing those then greatly reducing meat intake (no more than 2-3 times a week)

I mean, in all honesty it doesnt matter however Foxx has a point; this is all unnatural especially with all the crap put into Meat nowadays. However, I recommend not going full vegetarian but if you love mear buy it grown organically because you most likely wont have to deal with worrying too much about whats going in your stomach like buying from Perdue, Tyson or hell tge grocery store brand

Im just disappointed Im starting this before BBQ season but I know Ill probably down a few burgers though (they will just be organic which is $$$)

Also not looking down on people who eat meat, as it is one of the essential foods for man .

I do not think I can go vegan tho

Again it doesnt really matter what you are but I hope my stomach issues go away after this but not holding my breath
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Mead
05/30/18 7:50:23 AM
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Had anyone tried those beyond meat burgers?
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Kyuubi4269
05/30/18 8:01:16 AM
#79:


mastermix3000 posted...
Because its cheaper

Debateable, fat is very calorie dense so just eat fatty (cheaper) cuts and don't gorge instead of eating mud carpet and not wanting to.
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Doctor Foxx
05/30/18 9:43:32 AM
#80:


LinkPizza posted...
I think it really depends on the allergy. I'm allergic to shellfish, but I can still usually go to most restaurants. Even in Maryland, home of the Blue Crab, there aren't many places I can't go...

Um... I can eat anywhere that serves meat too so what are you hinting at? It's not different.

mastermix3000 posted...
I mean, in all honesty it doesnt matter however Foxx has a point; this is all unnatural especially with all the crap put into Meat nowadays. However, I recommend not going full vegetarian but if you love mear buy it grown organically because you most likely wont have to deal with worrying too much about whats going in your stomach like buying from Perdue, Tyson or hell tge grocery store brand

Any reduction in meat is great. However, those farms still cause suffering and environmental harm. Are they better? Yes arguably so. But it's a better way to do a bad thing.

Organic and free range are advertising terms that make people feel better but do nothing for the animals. They still have the same issues like dioxins and bacteria. Often it's how the meat is packaged and processed in the slaughterhouse that adds a lot of risk and the good stuff goes with the bad.

mastermix3000 posted...
Im just disappointed Im starting this before BBQ season but I know Ill probably down a few burgers though (they will just be organic which is $$$)

Learn the beauty of grilling vegetables and fruits. Oh and there's so many great veg burgers out there. A burger is made by how you dress it. If you like plain ass hamburgers then yeah a veggie bother won't hold up. Like to have condiments, and toppings like pickles and onions and greens? Season that burger well and it's honestly better because it doesn't just taste of heavy greasy salty meat

I went vegan last year during BBQ season and still had lots of good foods. Field roast and gardein are two great brands

Kyuubi4269 posted...
mastermix3000 posted...
Because its cheaper

Debateable, fat is very calorie dense so just eat fatty (cheaper) cuts and don't gorge instead of eating mud carpet and not wanting to.

You can't just eat extra animal fat for your diet shortfalls and expect to live. Doctors would be appalled

Mead posted...
Has anyone tried those beyond meat burgers?

Yes. They're very meat like. I'd suggest cooking from frozen and seasoning the patties with some seasoning salt.

I personally found their meaty texture and smell a little off putting when coming them for myself. If you still eat meat it shouldn't be bad. It's definitely aimed at people that still eat meat
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Kyuubi4269
05/30/18 10:14:51 AM
#81:


Doctor Foxx posted...
You can't just eat extra animal fat for your diet shortfalls and expect to live. Doctors would be appalled

You can't just eat extra green dirt for your diet shortfalls and expect to live. Doctors would be appalled
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Doctor Foxx
05/30/18 10:21:56 AM
#82:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
You can't just eat extra animal fat for your diet shortfalls and expect to live. Doctors would be appalled

You can't just eat extra green dirt for your diet shortfalls and expect to live. Doctors would be appalled

Doctors prescribe plant based diets for health so try just a little harder. Doctors wish people would eat more greens and less meat. Calorie deficiency is extremely uncommon in the Western world, but vitamin and mineral deficiencies are rampant care of cheap filler food like processed meats, fast food, and lack of a variety of plant matter and fiber
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Kyuubi4269
05/30/18 10:37:55 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Doctors prescribe plant based diets for health so try just a little harder.

Doctors prescribe paleo diets for your health so don't be so disingenuous.

Doctor Foxx posted...
Doctors wish people would eat more greens and less meat. Calorie deficiency is extremely uncommon in the Western world, but vitamin and mineral deficiencies are rampant care of cheap filler food like processed meats, fast food, and lack of a variety of plant matter and fiber

Doctors wish people would eat less carbs and vegetables are full of them. Eat the right meats and you will have all the vitamins you could hope for and you won't need fibre as you don't consume enough unprocessible material to require poo assistance.

Git gud nub, diet is a complex issue and doesn't have one solution.
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mastermix3000
05/30/18 10:43:08 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Doctors prescribe plant based diets for health so try just a little harder. Doctors wish people would eat more greens and less meat. Calorie deficiency is extremely uncommon in the Western world, but vitamin and mineral deficiencies are rampant care of cheap filler food like processed meats, fast food, and lack of a variety of plant matter and fiber


Don't bother, some people cant be saved :/

Anyway I am curious how my gym diet will change, but in a good way. I love roasting veggies, not a fan of fruit tho because of sugar, and also I got my fill by working for a bakery company eating muffins, cookies etc

I am probably going to start off learning basmati rice dishes with roasted vegetables or whatever. One of my favorite dishes is fried sting beans with wasabi but I'm going to try and find a baked version since I'm not into greasy goofs (sans Pizza) anymore

Can see my life span increasing as I type lol, but that wasn't really the goal of this change anyway
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Doctor Foxx
05/30/18 11:25:22 AM
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Ifmastermix3000 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Doctors prescribe plant based diets for health so try just a little harder. Doctors wish people would eat more greens and less meat. Calorie deficiency is extremely uncommon in the Western world, but vitamin and mineral deficiencies are rampant care of cheap filler food like processed meats, fast food, and lack of a variety of plant matter and fiber


Don't bother, some people cant be saved :/

Anyway I am curious how my gym diet will change, but in a good way. I love roasting veggies, not a fan of fruit tho because of sugar, and also I got my fill by working for a bakery company eating muffins, cookies etc

I am probably going to start off learning basmati rice dishes with roasted vegetables or whatever. One of my favorite dishes is fried sting beans with wasabi but I'm going to try and find a baked version since I'm not into greasy goofs (sans Pizza) anymore

Can see my life span increasing as I type lol, but that wasn't really the goal of this change anyway

If you're strict about macros it can be a little harder to make the switch. There's plenty of great protein sources. I've become a huge fan of just cooking green lentils with vegetable bouillon and eating them with other vegetables. Lentils are the shit. Lentil pasta is also good but pricy

It's a cold rainy day here so I'm really excited that I'll have an excuse to fire up the oven for vegetables.

These days I keep the cooking simple and let the ingredients stand on their own

https://imgur.com/ROEs6Xi

An easy dinner

The best thing is everything you learn cooking veg can be applied later

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Doctors prescribe paleo diets for your health so don't be so disingenuous.

When I said doctors I meant practicing medical professionals and not Dr Oz. That guy promotes Paleo lol and he's not a good promoter of anything. There's all sorts of sources linked in the topic on the off chance you actually want to educate yourself but it's probably more productive teaching my cats tricks
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LinkPizza
05/30/18 11:35:18 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Um... I can eat anywhere that serves meat too so what are you hinting at? It's not different.

I was just saying that it depends on the allergy. Like I usually don't ask where we're going for food because most places sell things other than just shellfish. It's highly unlikely that all they serve is shellfish. And certain places will even clean the grill if you tell them you have an allergy.

mastermix3000 posted...
Don't bother, some people cant be saved :/

That's a weird way to put it...
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Silvally_Dreams
05/30/18 11:56:54 AM
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I wouldn't think cutting all meat out is healthy, especially if it's done recklessly. There's a nutrient important for brain health (it's closely associated with choline and starts with a "t") that has been found in chicken and fish but not in any type of plant. Also, cutting out red meat entirely might not be a good decision because it's so hard to get enough iron from plants. I got a pamphlet about going vegetarian once and the people in it said they had to take nutrient supplements. I wanted to go vegetarian once and don't want to defend eating meat (there's no reason to do it for the animals though. Surely they would overpopulate if no one ate them), but I'm sure busy people don't want to have to jump through hundreds of hoops. I'm pretty positive there's no vegetarian or vegan restaurant in my city, and it's not even a small one. (We also don't have Whole Foods, though.)
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solid_kush
05/30/18 11:57:53 AM
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People that refuse to eat vegetables are dumb.
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mastermix3000
05/30/18 12:09:36 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
The best thing is everything you learn cooking veg can be applied later


what are some of your recommendations

solid_kush posted...
People that refuse to eat vegetables are dumb.

omg this
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Doctor Foxx
05/30/18 12:09:46 PM
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Silvally_Dreams posted...
I wouldn't think cutting all meat out is healthy, especially if it's done recklessly. There's a nutrient important for brain health (it's closely associated with choline and starts with a "t") that has been found in chicken and fish but not in any type of plant. Also, cutting out red meat entirely might not be a good decision because it's so hard to get enough iron from plants. I got a pamphlet about going vegetarian once and the people in it said they had to take nutrient supplements. I wanted to go vegetarian once and don't want to defend eating meat (there's no reason to do it for the animals though. Surely they would overpopulate if no one ate them), but I'm sure busy people don't want to have to jump through hundreds of hoops. I'm pretty positive there's no vegetarian or vegan restaurant in my city, and it's not even a small one. (We also don't have Whole Foods, though.)

I'm positive you're incorrect about the vegetarian restaurant if you're in a decent sized city. You probably haven't looked! Chances are if you don't have a thriving veg community you may be limited to vegetarian friendly places that also serve meat dishes.There's no whole foods here either. But even where I lived in a rural place with under 15k people within 25km there were still options available if I looked.

Do you know what nutrient you're talking about? I can't find out what you're referring to. From my research there are algae based supplement options for brain health that work

Yes vegetarians should take supplements, but to be fair, most people that eat meat are deficient in a few things and should be supplementing. What you're deficient in is going to depend on your diet. I had to supplement with all the things I take now back when I ate meat and my blood levels are better now than they were with animal products in my diet. Including B12.
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Kyuubi4269
05/30/18 12:24:41 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
educate yourself but it's probably more productive teaching my cats tricks

All vegetablists ever.

Can you guys ever stop being such children? Oh wait, your growth was stunted.
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LinkPizza
05/30/18 12:28:09 PM
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solid_kush posted...
People that refuse to eat vegetables are dumb.

I don't think many people here are refusing to eat vegetables. I think they are refusing to replace everything they eat with vegetables. I have a side of vegetables with dinner, depending on what I eat. And eat fruits, too. But I refused to eat only vegetables...
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Doctor Foxx
05/30/18 12:39:57 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
solid_kush posted...
People that refuse to eat vegetables are dumb.

I don't think many people here are refusing to eat vegetables. I think they are refusing to replace everything they eat with vegetables. I have a side of vegetables with dinner, depending on what I eat. And eat fruits, too. But I refused to eat only vegetables...

No vegetarians are suggesting you replace everything with vegetables. You'd never feel full. There are plant based protein sources like beans, lentils, tofu, seitan, etc. And your be surprised at how high protein some grains are. My 2 slice avocado toast lunch has 14g protein and 10g fiber from the bread alone

Your just replace meat with plant protein. Easy peaay.
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shadowsword87
05/30/18 12:42:37 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
My 2 slice avocado toast lunch has 14g protein and 10g fiber from the bread alone


Something something millenials avocado toast something something.
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Kyuubi4269
05/30/18 12:46:09 PM
#95:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Your just replace meat with plant protein.

lol gtfo here
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Doctor Foxx
05/30/18 1:06:26 PM
#96:


shadowsword87 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
My 2 slice avocado toast lunch has 14g protein and 10g fiber from the bread alone


Something something millenials avocado toast something something.

my lunch costs a dollar suck it boomers i could get a house down payment in 96 years not eating lunch i guess

mastermix3000 posted...
what are some of your recommendations

OK Mix! I've got 7 recipes for you that I have made and I am skipping the mushroom dishes. For pressure cooker recipes you can adapt them to the stove. Check the comments for adaptations or ask if you don't see them.

https://holycowvegan.net/white-bean-chili/ - This does need raw cashews. You can find them at most grocery stores where they sell bags of nuts, seeds, dried fruit, etc. You can skip it but imo they make the dish next level. vegan staple for creamy sauces.

https://minimalistbaker.com/vegan-sloppy-joes/ - so much better than canned manwich and high fat beef. this is a flavorful healthy sandwich. Or a great topping for vegetables, brown rice, whatever! i put it on veggie dogs. swapped the link to Minimalist Baker's recipe, this is stovetop it's good. Check out that site for a ton of vegan recipes. It is a solid resource.

https://yupitsvegan.com/peanut-pineapple-potato-curry/ - Triple P Peanut Potato Pineapple curry. One of my favorite recipes ever, I've made this many times.

https://veganwithcurves.com/bbq-lentil-balls/ - sooooo darn tasty

https://eathealthyeathappy.com/life-changing-vegan-cheese-sauce-clean-glutenfree/ - Vegan cheese sauce. it's good on pasta for sure, and on vegetables. While it's not the same as a cheese sauce, and i kind of hate calling it that, if you think of it as a tasty healthy plant sauce you can appreciate the complex flavors and just how much you get out of basic ingredients. Also, grind the fuck out of some raw cashwes and add them for creaminess here too for next level goodness.

https://www.veganricha.com/2017/10/instant-pot-vegan-butter-chicken.html - This recipe is amazingly delicious and i'd make it more if I could control myself. win.

http://whattheheckdoieatnow.com/2015/11/15/lentil-soup/ - this soup was my comfort food when I was sick. It is hearty and wonderful.

and bonus easy things:

https://www.lettyskitchen.com/lentil-very-brown-rice/ - lentil brown rice. not a fancy recipe, just know you can cook the two together like this and it tastes greeeeeat. so much more protein and fiber

https://www.spendwithpennies.com/cowboy-caviar/ - this is just a bomb ass cold salsa / dip that is great for parties or whatever
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mastermix3000
05/30/18 1:55:34 PM
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Lol those do look good

Think I may need a pressure cooker lol...... seems way too convenient to not have one
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Krazy_Kirby
05/30/18 2:36:28 PM
#98:


solid_kush posted...
People that refuse to eat vegetables are dumb.


same with people who refuse to eat meat.

we are omnivores for a reason
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shadowsword87
05/30/18 2:38:05 PM
#99:


Doctor Foxx posted...
https://holycowvegan.net/white-bean-chili/ - This does need raw cashews. You can find them at most grocery stores where they sell bags of nuts, seeds, dried fruit, etc. You can skip it but imo they make the dish next level. vegan staple for creamy sauces.


Oh fuck, I was just talking to people about making chili as well.
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LinkPizza
05/30/18 2:59:17 PM
#100:


shadowsword87 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
My 2 slice avocado toast lunch has 14g protein and 10g fiber from the bread alone


Something something millenials avocado toast something something.

What is the deal with avocado toast? I've never liked avocado. When did avocado become a big thing? Also, I not really sure if it's just a millennial things. Most millennial I know in real life don't like avocado. Or the toast they always seem to make with it. I honestly thought it was a myth or joke. But, then again, I always thought an underwater basket weaver degree was a joke, too. So...
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