Current Events > Solo was fucking fantastic (spoilers)

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Who on Earth was the CEman who said this movie had no heart? It had heart in spades, more than anything else.

Alden did well, Donald IS Lando, Emilia was much better than her stiff acting as Dany.

Enfys Nest is a boss.

The movie makes the Star Wars universe feel bigger rather than smaller.
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My issue with the movie was that it was a constant stream of tension. Action scene to action scene without the typical build up in a star wars flick. Usually SW progressively increases tension until you get to a giant space battle with ships and/or jedi. Seeing as there was neither, it just felt like fan service putting a couple references from the OT on screen.

For what it's worth, I thought Alden and Donald did great in their respective performances, but they were constrained by a story that I don't feel necessarily needed to be told.

It left me feeling like a generic action film with a star wars theme rather than part of the SWU. I'd much rather prefer spin-offs to introduce novel characters in new locations inspired by existing SW lore.

It was a shallowly enjoyable film, but I didn't find it very memorable.
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People having low standards is what causes movie studios to make crap movies.
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I was planning on seeing it tomorrow and was pretty excited. I heard good things and I thought Lando was the perfect casting.

Now I don't I know if I'm gonna watch it. You gushed about the mediocrity of 7 and the absolute shit that was 8 and I no longer have high hopes for solo.
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Soviet_Poland posted...

Action scene to action scene without the typical build up in a star wars flick. Usually SW progressively increases tension until you get to a giant space battle with ships and/or jedi. Seeing as there was neither, it just felt like fan service putting a couple references from the OT on screen.

Eh I can kinda see that, but there were definitely slower universe-building moments too. Dryden's yacht, Sabacc, talking with Enfys, etc.

Soviet_Poland posted...

I thought Alden and Donald did great in their respective performances, but they were constrained by a story that I don't feel necessarily needed to be told.

I mean I don't think it was an essential story but I think they did it well enough to justify telling it. And I do think it adds some new layers to Han's character and backstory, as well as expanding the world around the organized crime of Star Wars.

Also Teras Kasi reference boiiiiiiiiiii
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I was planning on seeing it tomorrow and was pretty excited. I heard good things and I thought Lando was the perfect casting.

Now I don't I know if I'm gonna watch it. You gushed about the mediocrity of 7 and the absolute shit that was 8 and I no longer have high hopes for solo.

Everyone that I know who hated 7 and 8 loved Solo, but my condolences for your bad Star Wars takes
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I wouldn't say fantastic but it was quite a bit better than expected

Alden and Donald were definitely both closer to Harrison Ford and Billy Dee respectively than I expected them to be, and Donald especially at some points had the mannerisms and inflections down perfectly
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That shit was hot fucking garbage bro
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Lmao rebeard.
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Also for what it's worth, I'm someone who thought 7 was okay and hated TLJ and I enjoyed Solo
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DarthAragorn posted...

Alden and Donald were definitely both closer to Harrison Ford and Billy Dee respectively than I expected them to be, and Donald especially at some points had the mannerisms and inflections down perfectly

Yeah definitely. Alden impressed me but Donald did even better than I expected too (and my expectations were high). From the moment we're introduced to him it felt like seeing Lando.
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I expected garbage and thought it was the best Disney Star Wars yet.

Also I'm surprised about the box office. Granted it's Memorial Day but my theater was almost entirely full (not completely) and people cheered and clapped at the end. Hopefully good word of mouth brings it up a bit.
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RebelElite791 posted...

Also I'm surprised about the box office. Granted it's Memorial Day but my theater was almost entirely full (not completely) and people cheered and clapped at the end. Hopefully good word of mouth brings it up a bit.

I think a lot more people probably saw Deadpool 2 than Solo. Since Deadpool 2 only came out last weekend I imagine a lot of people were probably waiting til this weekend.
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I liked it too
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I really enjoyed Solo. The pacing felt strange and the acting was occasionally awkward but I had fun. I absolutely loved the world-building and I'm intrigued to see what happens next (although sequel prospects aren't looking too hot right now... a shame).
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rebel liking a star wars movie? shocking
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Polycosm posted...

I really enjoyed Solo. The pacing felt strange and the acting was occasionally awkward but I had fun. I absolutely loved the world-building and I'm intrigued to see what happens next (although sequel prospects aren't looking too hot right now... a shame).

It would have to be several years out anyway unless they want to start releasing more than one Star Wars movie a year.
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Tmaster148 posted...

I think a lot more people probably saw Deadpool 2 than Solo. Since Deadpool 2 only came out last weekend I imagine a lot of people were probably waiting til this weekend.

Yeah def true. Stacked weekend.

Delirious_Beard posted...

rebel liking a star wars movie? shocking

So did a few people ITT who didn't like the other recent ones. Great feedback though 10/10 constructive
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It was entirely forgettable. Nothing stuck out whatsoever. It was better than I thought, but I thought it'd be hot garbage.
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My only issue was that I expected it to have more charming and funny banter.

I really liked all the Syndicate stuff. I hope we see more of that sorta stuff in the future. The whole thing would be great for a video game. The movie did a really good job with the world building compared to most Star Wars movies.
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Darmik posted...

My only issue was that I expected it to have more charming and funny banter.

I really liked all the Syndicate stuff. I hope we see more of that sorta stuff in the future. The whole thing would be great for a video game.

If only Star Wars 1313 wasn't canceled
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Darmik posted...

I really liked all the Syndicate stuff. I hope we see more of that sorta stuff in the future.

For real. Inter-faction plotting is just fun. Dryden talking about how he can't openly move against the Pykes etc. Maybe Black Sun can show up next time too.
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Darmik posted...

My only issue was that I expected it to have more charming and funny banter.

I really liked all the Syndicate stuff. I hope we see more of that sorta stuff in the future. The whole thing would be great for a video game. The movie did a really good job with the world building compared to most Star Wars movies.

Pretty much my feelings. Really felt like a living world was being built in this film rather than just a backdrop for the story if that makes sense.

DarthAragorn posted...

Darmik posted...

My only issue was that I expected it to have more charming and funny banter.

I really liked all the Syndicate stuff. I hope we see more of that sorta stuff in the future. The whole thing would be great for a video game.

If only Star Wars 1313 wasn't canceled

The funny thing is that Star Wars 1313 was ultimately cancelled because Visceral wanted to do their own game which was a heist game set in the Star Wars underworld. That eventually also got cancelled.

It's like these games are cursed.

I wonder if the game would have tied into Solo if it worked out. I'm guessing it was supposed to be EA's game this year so it would have had the right timing.
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Darmik posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

Darmik posted...

My only issue was that I expected it to have more charming and funny banter.

I really liked all the Syndicate stuff. I hope we see more of that sorta stuff in the future. The whole thing would be great for a video game.

If only Star Wars 1313 wasn't canceled

The funny thing is that Star Wars 1313 was ultimately cancelled because Visceral wanted to do their own game which was a heist game set in the Star Wars underworld. That eventually also got cancelled.

It's like these games are cursed.

Wait that's what Visceral's game was going to be? FUCK. There's a severe shortage of heist games too.
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It was a generic space adventure film with Star Wars gloss over it. Still prefer it to The Last Jedi, though.
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DarthAragorn posted...

Darmik posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

Darmik posted...

My only issue was that I expected it to have more charming and funny banter.

I really liked all the Syndicate stuff. I hope we see more of that sorta stuff in the future. The whole thing would be great for a video game.

If only Star Wars 1313 wasn't canceled

The funny thing is that Star Wars 1313 was ultimately cancelled because Visceral wanted to do their own game which was a heist game set in the Star Wars underworld. That eventually also got cancelled.

It's like these games are cursed.

Wait that's what Visceral's game was going to be? FUCK. There's a severe shortage of heist games too.

Yep

Hennig wasn't interested in making an open-world space game; she wanted to write a linear action-adventure game, like Uncharted. They'd keep the idea of scoundrels in space, but for this new project, Hennig wanted to tell a heist story. Star Wars meets Ocean's Eleven. Soon it had a new codename: Ragtag.

Everyone I asked about Ragtag's story was unanimous about one thing: They all thought it was awesome. The lead protagonist was Dodger, described as a "cracked mirror version" of Han Solo, and over the course of the game he'd battle alongside a band of fellow misfits like Robie, a gunslinger and Dodger's partner in crime; Oona, the daughter of a mob boss; and Buck, the veteran leader and mentor of the crew. Set between the original Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, Ragtag would focus on the impact of Alderaan's destruction and tell a story about criminal families, scoundrels, and action-packed heists. "This was the coolest shit I've ever seen," said one person who saw the story. "[Hennig] had total buy-in from the start on that. Everybody was buzzing."

In order to distinguish Ragtag from Uncharted, a point that EA's executives felt strongly about, Hennig and her team came up with some lofty ideas for gameplay. You'd play as multiple members of the team, and each would have their own AI minds and abilities when you weren't controlling them. There were no Jedi powers, but one big theme was "sabotage" you'd be able to manipulate the environment to distract and divert enemies in non-violent ways.

These ideas were incredibly ambitious. "Picture the Death Star, and they all have jobs," said a person who worked on the game. "One Stormtrooper was on a command unit, moving boxes around. Some guys would be droids. It was supposed to be set up so it was all real, and it felt like they had jobs to do. We wanted to tap into emotions, so you could mess with Stormtroopers' emotions. Go into a room, turn the lights off. He goes back in and turns them back on. Then you turn them off again. At a certain point he starts getting spooked, acting irrationally, and bringing friends in."

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/12/the-collapse-of-viscerals-ambitiousstar-wars-game/

What could have been...
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I liked Solo more than Deadpool 2

did lando bone the droid chick
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SSJGrimReaper posted...

did lando bone the droid chick

probably

yeah, it was pretty fun
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cerealbox760 posted...

SSJGrimReaper posted...

did lando bone the droid chick

probably

I can't believe there were meltdowns over the Lando stuff. Reminds me of the backlash over Beauty and the Beast having a gay character.
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Darmik posted...

cerealbox760 posted...

SSJGrimReaper posted...

did lando bone the droid chick

probably

I can't believe there were meltdowns over the Lando stuff. Reminds me of the backlash over Beauty and the Beast having a gay character.

Yeah really, it was so mild and so fit his character.

But I also saw meltdowns from "the left" about how it was "cowardly" to say outside of the film that he's pansexual or w/e and not show it in the film when...it pretty blatantly (if, again, mildly) shows it in the film. L3 tells him to stop flirting with Han, who he calls "baby" in his smooth way. Not sure he needs a 5 minute monologue to the audience about his sexual identity.
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au_gold posted...

It was a generic space adventure film with Star Wars gloss over it. Still prefer it to The Last Jedi, though.

I mean at this point I think we should expect that with the side story movies. Rogue One didn't feel entirely like a Star Wars movie but I enjoyed it anyway.
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pretty interesting that everyone had piss poor expectations for this since it was announced, and now I'm seeing quite a few people say it was quite enjoyable. Probably just a lesson on checking your expectations at the door.
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lilORANG posted...

pretty interesting that everyone had piss poor expectations for this since it was announced, and now I'm seeing quite a few people say it was quite enjoyable. Probably just a lesson on checking your expectations at the door.

Even as a big Star Wars fan myself (and actually enjoyed all of Disney's movies so far) I was having doubts. I've heard a couple ridiculous scenes but I'm willing to forgive them if the rest of the movie is decent.
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If you think about it Woody Harrelson's character ends up being right considering Han Solo's own son ends up murdering him in the end.

But yet I think Han knew it was going to happen so I guess it's different.
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I really loved Beckett. And how Han shot them. And like my friend said thank god they had the restraint to not make any jokes about shooting first at that moment
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An awesome space adventure. Loved it.
Yeah went in with little to no expectations and that was a good thing.
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cerealbox760 posted...

I liked Solo more than Deadpool 2

So did my friend who recently saw it.
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Gordon Gartrelle's legacy lives on
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RebelElite791 posted...

I really loved Beckett. And how Han shot them. And like my friend said thank god they had the restraint to not make any jokes about shooting first at that moment

That was a really cool scene.
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My conservative friends are livid about Lando being pansexual and boycotting it. I'll see it on blu-ray
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I went in with low expectations, and thought it was better than expected. Not a great movie by any means, but it wasn't bad either.
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lilORANG posted...

pretty interesting that everyone had piss poor expectations for this since it was announced, and now I'm seeing quite a few people say it was quite enjoyable. Probably just a lesson on checking your expectations at the door.

It's also the fact that you browse CE who can't help but piss and moan about every single thing even before it comes out. Then when it's actually successful and/or good, they either try to find any single bad thing about it and act like it's the worst thing ever, or they hide in the shadows and can't admit they were wrong.
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I thought it was a well-constructed movie with good performances from its ensemble of actors, well-done action scenes, and a logical easy-flowing plot. By all standards it was a good movie. And I'm happy I went to it.

That said, the entire time there was this pointless feeling to all of it. I don't feel like I learned anything knew about Han, Chewie, or Lando. We knew Han was a scoundrel with a soft-spot. Which he was in the beginning of the movie and was at the end of the movie. We knew that Lando was a suave, swindling, player who lost the Falcon to Han in a bet. We saw that happen but didn't really learn anything. We knew that Chewie was rescued by Han and thus owes him a life-debt and is also trying to find his family. Again we see it but we don't come away with anything new about it.

Sure we didn't know about the new characters but we did know that none of them were really relevant or around by the time we meet Han later. I enjoyed Beckett, but he basically told you his fate with the betrayal speech. Qira was cool, but you knew she wasn't flying off into the sunset with Han so the real question was whether she was betraying Han or getting killed. The other characters really didn't have enough time to get attached to.

To Qira's credit she was involved with the single most exciting moment of the film and I do look forward to see where the series goes from there, but that was mostly unconnected to the Solo plot and could probably just have easily been added into a different, less well-known story.
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They were boardering on a really quality film, but it fell short in several grating ways. Maybe if Ron Howard had been involved from the beginning

The movie lacked a lot of weight. There were moments where I could see the makings of a more lasting film, but the overall tone and structure were disjointed. Han shooting Beckett first, for instance, shouldve felt more impactful than it did. Hans turncoat and Qiras betrayal shouldve been more than a shrug of the shoulders. It was just all too clean.
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