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MangaFan462 05/29/18 2:54:37 PM #51: |
Bishop9800 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist You first --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 05/29/18 2:55:35 PM #52: |
MangaFan462 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist On what? You the one who claiming that this isn't racist. So tell me why it isn't? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MangaFan462 05/29/18 2:55:44 PM #53: |
RebelElite791 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist I guess Ill have to tag you the same way Kineth is, good job, you earned it! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 05/29/18 2:56:23 PM #54: |
MangaFan462 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist And what would that be --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 05/29/18 2:56:40 PM #55: |
CrimsonRage posted...
@voldothegr8 I haven't defended her, though I'm sad the show is cancelled because it was pretty good past the 1st episode. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) | THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 05/29/18 2:57:19 PM #56: |
RebelElite791 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist Lmao that's literally my tag for him after he posted that shit. Crazy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MangaFan462 05/29/18 2:57:22 PM #57: |
RebelElite791 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...RebelElite791 posted...MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist Ask a mod --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 05/29/18 2:58:21 PM #58: |
Bishop9800 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...Bishop9800 posted...MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 05/29/18 2:58:42 PM #59: |
MangaFan462 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...MangaFan462 posted...RebelElite791 posted...MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist *yawn* --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 05/29/18 2:59:40 PM #60: |
Bishop9800 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...MangaFan462 posted... "because I'm just not convinced" I assume that'll be the type of response. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 05/29/18 3:02:47 PM #61: |
Its much easier and less confrontational to passive aggressively label people and disregard unique opinions and thought.
For me Id rather discuss things. My mind has been changed on more than one occasion, and it wouldnt have if I had not engaged with other people in dialog. --- "its okay a lizard ate me and elucidated my fate" - MJ_Max on Dark Souls 3DSFC : 0860-3930-2170 | NNID : CapnMuffin | XBGT : Capn Muffin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 05/29/18 3:06:15 PM #62: |
MangaFan462 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...MangaFan462 posted...What she tweeted wasnt racist Burden of proof is on you Youre the one saying its not So Tell me How is what she said not racist? --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me saturate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 05/29/18 3:12:19 PM #63: |
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Burden of proof is on you The original burden of proof is on you, unless you think the null hypothesis is "Everything is racist". Now, people have stated why it's racist, so he needs to rebut those. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 05/29/18 3:14:07 PM #64: |
CapnMuffin posted...
Its much easier and less confrontational to passive aggressively label people and disregard unique opinions and thought. What about her tweet do you want to discuss? --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/29/18 3:14:48 PM #65: |
It was a dumb tweet. ABC is also dumb for cancelling the show over it.
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Slip-N-Slide 05/29/18 3:19:27 PM #68: |
Zikten posted...
I defended her costars. thought it wasn't fair they got fired cause of her Then you have to blame Rosanne for that. Firing her wouldn't have made any difference as the ratings would've dropped like a rock and nobody would've watched it without her and it would've been cancelled. Her being a racist dumbass doesn't mean she's not still an integral star of the show to the point where it wouldn't work without her. Either way, her actions caused them to lose their jobs. Aim any outrage to that right at the source, which is her, not ABC. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/29/18 3:25:08 PM #69: |
Slip-N-Slide posted...
Zikten posted... No, because unlike the millions of idiots who claim that any association with anyone who says something stupid means that you instantly are guilty of supporting that, ABC could have made an actual argument that while it was a dumb thing to say Roseanne has apologized and we do not agree with what she said at all. Cancelling the show wasn't necessary just because idiots want to throw around the guilt by association label all the time. It's the most ludicrous notion ever. Are you guilty of everything anyone you have ever worked with has said? Did you quit your job everytime someone at your place of work said something you disagreed with if your workplace didn't fire them? How is this any different? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/29/18 3:27:24 PM #70: |
Howl posted...
Slip-N-Slide posted...Zikten posted... Say something stupid on twitter, deal with the consequences of doing so. She said something stupid, this is her consequence. The only people I feel bad for are her costars. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/29/18 3:29:40 PM #71: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Howl posted...Slip-N-Slide posted... You literally didn't read my post. It wasn't necessary in the least for ABC to cancel the show. The argument of guilt by association isn't logical and didn't require that response by ABC. Roseanne was dumb for tweeting it. ABC is dumb for cancelling the show over it. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 05/29/18 3:32:15 PM #72: |
Howl posted...
You literally didn't read my post. It wasn't necessary in the least for ABC to cancel the show. The argument of guilt by association isn't logical and didn't require that response by ABC. Roseanne was dumb for tweeting it. ABC is dumb for cancelling the show over it. For all we know she's been repeatedly warned in the past about her tweets. It's like when people are consistently late for work and then complain that they were fired for being late to work that day, despite *whatever their excuse is*. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ben_Ruggiero 05/29/18 3:32:18 PM #73: |
*raises hand*
I'd rather be perceived as a racist for watching Roseanne than a fucking gang member like TC --- A wiseguy never pays for his drinks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CatataFish462 05/29/18 3:32:35 PM #74: |
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
*raises hand* Lmao --- I am the catata fish. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3khc 05/29/18 3:33:30 PM #76: |
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
*raises hand* What's wrong with being in a gang? Bet money you joined a club or a team at least once in your life. --- ---- ----- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ben_Ruggiero 05/29/18 3:34:14 PM #77: |
3khc posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...*raises hand* Are you serious right now --- A wiseguy never pays for his drinks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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juicebox4 05/29/18 3:35:00 PM #78: |
MangaFan462 posted...
What she tweeted wasnt racist she said some black person looked like "<something I forget> mixed with a monkey" --- *Ding dong, bing bong* GABBA GABBA HEY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Henri 05/29/18 3:37:11 PM #79: |
Im pretty hard to offend, and I dont watch Roseanne so I couldnt care less about this whole ordeal. But Im surprised that this is what got her show cancelled and not the posing as Hitler cooking up some Cookie Jews...
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Slip-N-Slide 05/29/18 3:37:47 PM #80: |
Howl posted...
Slip-N-Slide posted...Zikten posted... Who's arguing guilty by association? Maybe, just maybe, Disney doesn't want to pay millions of dollars an episode to a public racist and realize that firing her also would be the end of the show anyways so they just cut to the chase and cancelled it. The lost jobs are entirely on her hands. Your false equivalency is absurd as well, in a normal job environment the success of the company doesn't fall solely on one specific person being there. If they fuck up, you fire them and replace them. In this case firing her would've been the same thing as cancelling the show as it would've failed at another season without her on the show. You're literally arguing someone who's openly racist should've.kept her job on a Disney network on a family show, and that it's not her fault anyone lost their jobs, it's entirely on the network for not continuing to employ her. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/29/18 3:43:58 PM #81: |
Slip-N-Slide posted...
Who's arguing guilty by association? Every person calling for ABC to cancel the show. Slip-N-Slide posted... You're literally arguing someone who's openly racist should've.kept her job on a Disney network on a family show, and that it's not her fault anyone lost their jobs, it's entirely on the network for not continuing to employ her. This isn't true. I didn't deny any culpability on Roseanne's part. She is culpbable for their job losses because she's the one who did something stupid. ABC is culpable for their own response, which also is stupid. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/29/18 3:46:55 PM #82: |
Oh and the false equivalecy bit. My argument about that was about how individuals view guilt by association. They can scream all day about a company being guilty for associating with someone that did something they consider morally reprehensible, but they would never apply the same standard to their own situation or employment status.
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3khc 05/29/18 3:47:30 PM #83: |
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
3khc posted...Ben_Ruggiero posted...*raises hand* I have little patience with people like you. Answer the question or shut the fuck up. Go *raise* your hand elsewhere. --- ---- ----- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrapEnthusiast 05/29/18 3:47:36 PM #84: |
i wouldn't have assumed Jarrett was black just by looking at her. her racial heritage looks indeterminate before looking up her background. both her parents were mixed, in fact. in light of that it's hard for me to get outraged when she's mostly white herself.
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robellr13 05/29/18 3:47:41 PM #85: |
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
*raises hand* Lmao Racist promote hate and turmoil to other races by default. I rather much be a gang member. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bshwalker 05/29/18 3:51:02 PM #86: |
Rosanne tweets and Wanda Sykes quits because of it.
If ABC didnt fire Rosanne, Skyes now has a hostile work environment case. In other words, a person doesnt have to say or do anything overtly racist. A person can just be offended and feel unwelcome at their place of employment. Its common knowledge. If Sykes or Sikes doesnt sue, anyone offended can because the employer did nothing to resolve the situation. She had to go, legally, and its her own fault for being stupid. She brought this on herself. The rest of the cast will be fine. They are fine. They all have more money than most of us will make in a lifetime. Dont work with stupid people and you wont be caught up in their stupid prizes. --- Thoughts and prayers, moment of silence, I like turtles. ~C.O.I.~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 05/29/18 3:51:18 PM #87: |
Maybe, just maybe, Disney doesn't want to pay millions of dollars an episode to a public racist Im not up on my Roseanne lore but I doubt this is a recent development. They hired her in the first place knowing what they were taking on. They probably succumbed to social pressure and the risk of losing face ($). --- "its okay a lizard ate me and elucidated my fate" - MJ_Max on Dark Souls 3DSFC : 0860-3930-2170 | NNID : CapnMuffin | XBGT : Capn Muffin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/29/18 3:58:28 PM #88: |
bshwalker posted...
Skyes now has a hostile work environment case. No she doesn't. There's only a requirement of the employer to address the situation if it is brought to their attention from another enployee. There is no legal requirement for them to fire her. They only legally have to prevent it from occurring after it has been brought to their attention. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slip-N-Slide 05/29/18 4:03:53 PM #89: |
Howl posted...
Slip-N-Slide posted...Who's arguing guilty by association? No, there is no fault on ABC's side for firing someone making a blatantly racist statement publicly. It's entirely on her for being a public blatant racist. Howl posted... Oh and the false equivalecy bit. My argument about that was about how individuals view guilt by association. They can scream all day about a company being guilty for associating with someone that did something they consider morally reprehensible, but they would never apply the same standard to their own situation or employment status. If I went around calling black people apes, I'd fully expect to be called into HR and then subsequently fired. And it would be completely fair. And even then there's a bigger difference with a public figure like an actor than with the average person. When your career is in the public eye, your job basically revolves around the public's perception of you, your likability, etc. And the company is also running a part of an industry that revolves around public perception. How anyone can act like a Disney company of all things is in the wrong for firing someone making racist statements on a public forum is beyond me. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrapEnthusiast 05/29/18 4:10:37 PM #91: |
it reminds me of when that Burton remake of POTA came out, and one particular character resembled a famous white skinned singer who has since died. lot of people noted the bizarre resemblance. it had nothing to do with race
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gunplagirl 05/29/18 4:13:58 PM #92: |
Remember that time she called caster semenya a man and ape?
That was in 2013. Fuck ABC for ever giving her racist, transphobic ass a show. Them doing the right thing in the end doesn't make up for them giving her more money and time in the spotlight. And of course, fuck Rosanne. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bshwalker 05/29/18 4:51:40 PM #93: |
Howl posted...
bshwalker posted...Skyes now has a hostile work environment case. Unless this isnt the first time. We dont know if there have been other instances that have been brought to their attention. Also, perhaps it varies from state to state, but in CA, an employee can bring up hostile work environment charges because of an incident off the clock away from work. Example- 2 employees go to a restaurant, not together mind you, but in separate groups. In other words one employee shows up with her friends and the other employee shows up with his friends. The female employee overheard the male employee telling sexist jokes. At work the female employee talks to HR about the incident. It happened off the clock and she wasnt in the group but she felt uncomfortable at work because of it. He was talked to. He felt that it was none of her business and he could do whatever he wanted off the clock. Hes right in my opinion. But the legal ramifications were too risky and the male employee was transferred to a different location. In this case, Wanda doesnt have to be the one that could sue, if Barr has said other things in ear shot of other employees before this. Even if this was the first time and no one other than Wanda was offended, the risk is too high. Money and/or the potential of losing it talks. If Barr had a legal leg to stand on, shed be standing on it. So far, shes not. She and her show are done. She was a fool for thinking she could say something like that and nothing would happen. Even idiots know that we live in the world of digital mob action. Apparently, the idiots didnt send her the memo. Think what you want, say it- take a chance, post it- Bye Felicia. --- Thoughts and prayers, moment of silence, I like turtles. ~C.O.I.~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/29/18 4:54:01 PM #94: |
bshwalker posted...
If Barr had a legal leg to stand on, shed be standing on it. So far, shes not. Of course she doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. I'm 100 percent sure her contract had a social media policy included with it and that her comments were a viloation of that policy. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 05/29/18 7:13:00 PM #97: |
M_Live posted...
Caution999 posted...In all honesty, I don't think it was *THAT* bad, however (from what I can tell) . Let's look at the facts, which you would know if you actually watched the show. -DJ's wife and daughter are black -Roseanne's new neighbors are Muslim, and the show portrayed them in a positive light -Out of Dan's group of friends from the original series, Chuck (who is black) is the only one who returned for the new series -Dan was planning on hiring illegal immigrants for one of his drywall jobs Neither Roseanne Barr nor the character she portrays are racist. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 05/29/18 7:15:55 PM #98: |
Pillowpantz posted...
Roseanne has always been a quality show. Now that it's cancelled, I have no reason to watch ABC. is this another SMAL alt --- https://imgur.com/5UL2v5u "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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knuxnole 05/29/18 7:19:43 PM #99: |
Roseanne should be given a second chance, she didnt hurt nobody
Its only fair, she didnt hit or kill anyone. Shes a true American!!! If people lost their jobs due to her comments, 90% of Americans would be jobless since lots of people say those same statements daily with no repercussions --- 3DS FC: 4554-0309-4782 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gunvalkyrie2 05/29/18 8:20:46 PM #100: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
*Reads tweet* Tim burton reboot --- #BanBlobboyendings ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CharlesBronson 05/29/18 8:42:50 PM #101: |
Last week in a debate, Michael Dyson called Professor Jordan Peterson "a mean white man."
No one called for Dyson to be fired. Certainly not Jordan Peterson, who is against the Left's efforts to control other's speech by their M.O. of annihilating the opposition. But the Left has won. We now live in a society where one remark is justification for ending someone's career. A humorless, unforgiving, priggishly self-righteous, morally triumphalist, identity politics Jacobin society. ABC is a bunch of cowards and hypocrites. Like they have no skeletons in their closets. They all knew she was controversial and popular --and making them a lot of money. They don't have the balls now to stand up and honestly admit what a shadowy and at best questionable figure Valerie Jarrett was when she largely ran the Obama white house. Let ABC rot. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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