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COVxy
05/30/18 3:34:21 PM
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Questionmarktarius
05/30/18 3:36:03 PM
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Prestoff
05/30/18 3:44:16 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
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BLAKUboy
05/30/18 3:45:10 PM
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Here's my shocked face.
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Webmaster4531
05/30/18 3:46:35 PM
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"They didn't take my shitty job, I just hate them." - Conservatives
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ultimate reaver
05/30/18 3:57:13 PM
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most of the people ive met who are completely horrified of muslims have met maybe one, two at best throughout their lives. if that
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COVxy
05/30/18 7:55:15 PM
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Fits with a lot of the in-group out-group stuff where simple exposure to out-groups gets people to treat them like in-groups.
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CADE FOSTER
05/30/18 7:57:20 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
"They didn't take my shitty job, I just hate them." - Conservatives

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RoboLaserGandhi
05/30/18 10:08:11 PM
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Man you guys just eat right out of the palm of their hand
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Webmaster4531
05/30/18 10:12:02 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Man you guys just eat right out of the palm of their hand

Oh, damn. Those sneaky immigrants not going to conservative fly over country just to trick us libs.
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wackyteen
05/30/18 10:14:04 PM
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Growing up I heard pretty anti-Mexican sentiment

I lived in some of the whitest parts of the traditional South <_<
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RoboLaserGandhi
05/30/18 10:14:54 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Man you guys just eat right out of the palm of their hand

Oh, damn. Those sneaky immigrants not going to conservative fly over country just to trick us libs.

I'm talking about these media outlets
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RoboLaserGandhi
05/30/18 10:16:06 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Man you guys just eat right out of the palm of their hand

Ill be so impressed when you make a post that exactly coincides with my political views this post means literally nothing I'm just angery grrrrrr
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masterpug53
05/30/18 10:16:32 PM
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Being exposed to people from different races / creeds generally leads to greater empathy, of course. It's a lot easier to strip away a fellow human's humanity when you don't have to look them in the face.
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foreveraIone
05/30/18 10:17:04 PM
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ignoramouses don't realize that immigrants legal and undocumented strengthen America.

immigrants bring demand with them regardless of skills.
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Medussa
05/30/18 10:17:44 PM
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Spooking posted...
is bias


"is biased" or "has bias"
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Webmaster4531
05/30/18 10:18:31 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Man you guys just eat right out of the palm of their hand

Oh, damn. Those sneaky immigrants not going to conservative fly over country just to trick us libs.

I'm talking about these media outlets

Oh, I'm sure dataforprogress.org is making bank too since I've never heard of them.

Edit: I'm sure there's ads on the site somewhere.
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Questionmarktarius
05/30/18 10:18:36 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Man you guys just eat right out of the palm of their hand

Oh, damn. Those sneaky immigrants not going to conservative fly over country just to trick us libs.

Yeah... I wonder if the the actual scenario isn't actually the other way around: fewer immigrants in areas with greater anti-immigrant sentiment.

But, of course, the article is conflating "immigration" with "illegal immigration". Stop doing that.
Title suggests "we don't want no furners here!" - actual article is about the perception of illegals committing crimes at a higher rate, which 100% of them already have anyway.

TC's entire premise is a sham.
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Soviet_Poland
05/30/18 10:20:23 PM
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Spooking posted...
The study is bias. Asking about "undocumented immigrants" changes the language. The IRS refers to them as 'illegal aliens', it's the far, far left who calls them undocumented immigrants. The study was poisoned from the get-go.


Yeah and there is a pretty insensitive word that people used to refer to black people by, but we're not claiming the shift of language is biased there, are we?
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P4wn4g3
05/30/18 10:22:47 PM
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My surprised face:
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Webmaster4531
05/30/18 10:28:31 PM
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Spooking posted...
The study is bias. Asking about "undocumented immigrants" changes the language. The IRS refers to them as 'illegal aliens', it's the far, far left who calls them undocumented immigrants. The study was poisoned from the get-go.

How different do you really think it would be if they asked about illegal aliens? The whole thing might be red-er but still would follow the same pattern.
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foreveraIone
05/30/18 10:29:50 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
article is about the perception of illegals committing crimes at a higher rate, which 100% of them already have anyway.

it's a civil not criminal violation m8.
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Webmaster4531
05/30/18 10:32:18 PM
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Spooking posted...
'Illegal Alien' is what the IRS refers to them as. Changing the language - romanticizing, actually - is Orwellian.

What do you think Orwellian means?
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StanZarnack
05/30/18 10:32:27 PM
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Spooking posted...
The IRS refers to them as 'illegal aliens', it's the far, far left who calls them undocumented immigrants. The study was poisoned from the get-go.


the far far left doesnt exist in the way you think it does, stop making shit up.
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Soviet_Poland
05/30/18 10:33:52 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
actual article is about the perception of illegals committing crimes at a higher rate, which 100% of them already have anyway.


If you've ever jay walked before I'm tagging you as a filthy criminal.

Instead of hiding behind that facade, why not just admit you think that technically means they're more likely to commit other crime, if only because you don't like immigrants? I'd respect you a lot more over the mental gymnastics.
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RE_expert44
05/30/18 10:35:09 PM
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I dont have to be shot before hand to know that it sucks to be shot.
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StanZarnack
05/30/18 10:37:12 PM
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Spooking posted...
You don't change language unless you have an agenda to promote. Does the far left have an agenda to promote when it comes to illegal aliens? A: Yes.


conspiracy theories must be fun.
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Soviet_Poland
05/30/18 10:37:41 PM
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Spooking posted...
'Illegal Alien' is what the IRS refers to them as. Changing the language - romanticizing, actually - is Orwellian.


You really have to showcase your bias to consider "undocumented immigrant" to be romanticized to be the point of Orwellian.

Why not just drop the act instead of rationalizing your prejudices?
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Questionmarktarius
05/31/18 11:21:31 AM
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Soviet_Poland posted...
Why not just drop the act instead of rationalizing your prejudices?

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Balrog0
05/31/18 11:33:30 AM
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so you're telling me that if you actually interact with an undocumented immigrant you might learn why they fled their home country, and that might make you have sympathy for them?
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Questionmarktarius
05/31/18 11:36:49 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
so you're telling me that if you actually interact with an undocumented immigrant you might learn why they fled their home country, and that might make you have sympathy for them?

This is why immigrant sponsorships need to be vastly easier, and why "chain migration" is harmless.
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Balrog0
05/31/18 11:37:04 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
But, of course, the article is conflating "immigration" with "illegal immigration". Stop doing that.
Title suggests "we don't want no furners here!" - actual article is about the perception of illegals committing crimes at a higher rate, which 100% of them already have anyway.

TC's entire premise is a sham.


'serious' crimes

it doesn't make the premise a sham even if you think crossing the border is a serious crime, actually, since less than 100% of americans can commit more crime than 1 crime each for 100% of undocumented immigrants
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COVxy
05/31/18 12:39:34 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Yeah... I wonder if the the actual scenario isn't actually the other way around: fewer immigrants in areas with greater anti-immigrant sentiment.


I mean, this certainly could be the case, but it doesn't change the main point of the article. Those who have the least experience with illegal immigrants hold the most prejudiced views of them. If illegal immigrants really were prone to high violence, then you'd certainly expect the opposite. What seems to be correlating with viewpoints on criminality is lack of experience with them, suggesting a viewpoint that isn't driven by experience/information.
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COVxy
05/31/18 5:22:59 PM
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Up.
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IllegalAlien
05/31/18 6:12:23 PM
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Interesting study. It's good to experiment to confirm hypotheses are expressed in the data.
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Prestoff
06/01/18 2:45:16 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
so you're telling me that if you actually interact with an undocumented immigrant you might learn why they fled their home country, and that might make you have sympathy for them?


Yeah this, which is why more diverse the area is the more likely you are going to find people in favor of a more liberal view point when it comes to immigration vs living in a less diverse area that will be more conservative.
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