Current Events > Is this just me or most acts of feminism are shit?

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Okay, some might be good , but I feel like there are lots of shit ones.
They protest about salaries, but why not just encourage girls to go to high-paying jobs like engineering then?

Weird thing is how they always push the demands which benefit them . I mean , I never see feminism movements to stop the ladies parks only or the tradition for men paying in dates.

You're not alone.
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It's because the shit ones are always the loudest ones. It doesn't help that many are only shouting for attention and not for their cause.
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Im curious about why theres so many people here mad about feminism. Like nobody forces you to pay on a date and you guys would whine about discrimination against men if they encouraged women to work in mens fields.

They protest salaries but they dont encourage women to seek blue collar jobs.
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skimmedmilktea posted...

They protest about salaries, but why not just encourage girls to go to high-paying jobs like engineering then?

Their point is even with those jobs they'll probably make less than male peers.
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It's not just you, but that's because a lot of people have bad opinions and/or observational skills or are extremely gullible too.
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polopili posted...

Im curious about why theres so many people here mad about feminism. Like nobody forces you to pay on a date and you guys would whine about discrimination against men if they encouraged women to work in mens fields.

the reason is plain as day, yes it is as childish as you'd imagine.
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Master_Bass posted...

skimmedmilktea posted...

They protest about salaries, but why not just encourage girls to go to high-paying jobs like engineering then?

Their point is even with those jobs they'll probably make less than male peers.

thats been proven false though
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Youll notice damn near every feminist has no children. If you dont use your eggs, they scramble.
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polopili posted...

. Like nobody forces you to pay on a date and you guys would whine about discrimination against men if they encouraged women to work in mens fields.

uhh, my girl friends did?

A movement that has devolved into treating men like second class citizens does shitty things? You don't say?

FightingFefnir posted...

A movement that has devolved into treating men like second class citizens does shitty things? You don't say?

Only boys think this is a valid statement.
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Kineth posted...

Your endorsement does not help its case.

FightingFefnir posted...

Kineth posted...

Your endorsement does not help its case.

Your misgivings don't hurt its case. Anyway, I didn't endorse anything and you're not some big shot or authority so your opinions about what I say don't mean shit.

Maybe you should stop making terrible posts and you won't have to use an alt to peddle your filth.
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skimmedmilktea posted...

Okay, some might be good , but I feel like there are lots of shit ones.
They protest about salaries, but why not just encourage girls to go to high-paying jobs like engineering then?

There's a bunch of feminists who call for more women in STEM fields, and/or who want more women in fields that are traditionally male dominated.

Weird thing is how they always push the demands which benefit them . I mean , I never see feminism movements to stop the ladies parks only or the tradition for men paying in dates.

I've seen some discourse regarding paying for dinner. The basic idea is that if you invite someone along for dinner, you pay the bill because you're inviting the other person along for dinner. That standard should apply to either gender, and at least in my social circles, I haven't met anyone who disagrees with it.

Ladies park only, I have no idea about. Is it the same as "Ladies drink free" or other ladies night BS? We don't have that where I live.
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Kineth posted...

Your misgivings don't hurt its case. Anyway, I didn't endorse anything and you're not some big shot or authority so your opinions about what I say don't mean shit.

That's where you're wrong

FightingFefnir posted...

That's where you're wrong

How about you put in some effort if you're gonna waste my time.
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You're posting on GameFAQs, you couldn't possibly be pressed for time lol

How come I never hear about them bitching about countries where it's legal to rape and beat your wife and if she runs away, they throw her in jail.

That's an infinitely more heinous crime to women's rights than having a sunscreen ad that promotes a "beach body" >_>
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That you clearly believe yourself to be the judge of all women and what they should do and think is why feminism has to exist in the first place.

Nah, feminism is p cool. I have a few feminist friends, and they make some good points.
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NeonOctopus posted...

How come I never hear about them bitching about countries where it's legal to rape and beat your wife and if she runs away, they throw her in jail.

That's an infinitely more heinous crime to women's rights than having a sunscreen ad that promotes a "beach body" >_>

Come on now, this isn't trying to be a fair take on what's going on and hell, why aren't you bitching about those things too?
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NeonOctopus posted...

How come I never hear about them bitching about countries where it's legal to rape and beat your wife and if she runs away, they throw her in jail.

That's an infinitely more heinous crime to women's rights than having a sunscreen ad that promotes a "beach body" >_>

Obviously wrongs in your own community have a higher priority than ones thousands of miles away in communities you're not part of at all. Using this logic, feminists should waste their time exposing the mistreatment of women in textile mills in the 19th century. Sure it is more horrible than what is happening now, but putting a priority on debating that isn't going to change anything at this point.

MrMallard posted...

skimmedmilktea posted...

Okay, some might be good , but I feel like there are lots of shit ones.
They protest about salaries, but why not just encourage girls to go to high-paying jobs like engineering then?

There's a bunch of feminists who call for more women in STEM fields, and/or who want more women in fields that are traditionally male dominated.

Weird thing is how they always push the demands which benefit them . I mean , I never see feminism movements to stop the ladies parks only or the tradition for men paying in dates.

I've seen some discourse regarding paying for dinner. The basic idea is that if you invite someone along for dinner, you pay the bill because you're inviting the other person along for dinner. That standard should apply to either gender, and at least in my social circles, I haven't met anyone who disagrees with it.

Ladies park only, I have no idea about. Is it the same as "Ladies drink free" or other ladies night BS? We don't have that where I live.

it's the parking space on convenient places given to girls, basically like the disabled park spots

skimmedmilktea posted...

They protest about salaries, but why not just encourage girls to go to high-paying jobs like engineering then?

that is already a thing
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chill02 posted...

skimmedmilktea posted...

They protest about salaries, but why not just encourage girls to go to high-paying jobs like engineering then?

that is already a thing

ughhh i already mention this in the beginning, why do I need to repeat myself

I'm not saying all feminism movements dont consider this, it's just that most of them always have the propaganda for their own benefits , not for equality term

Feminism often has bad PR because of some of it's most visible activists and uncharitable reactions to people who want to address issues without using a feminist lens.

For example, Big Red Chanty Binx gets a lot of play as a representative of feminism because that video of her being so super obnoxious and belligerent got passed around a lot.

If you want to go further back to the second wave, there was Andrea Dworkin. The premier big, fat, angry, man-hating lesbian feminist. A lot of the caricatures of angry feminists probably stem from her. One feminist youtuber I occasionally watch invented the term "the Dwork Side" to tease angry, sex negative feminists.

It doesn't help when they have such hostile reactions to people like Erin Pizzey, Cassie Jaye, or Laci Green.
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skimmedmilktea posted...

ughhh i already mention this in the beginning, why do I need to repeat myself

because this is a bad topic and you should feel bad
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Feminism is about equality! *Hides behind that premise every single time a feminist does something shitty*

The biggest issue here is that most male complaints in regards to feminism are petty ones relating to dating, and that really just depends on supply and demand. Anybody here can make a tinder account with a cute girl picture, and get about a dozen swipes in 2 hours, while they can use their own and not get that in a month. If men wasn't so fucking thirsty, then our dating lives would be alot better, and honestly most people complaints about feminism would vanish.

FightingFefnir posted...

Kineth posted...

Your endorsement does not help its case.

This SO hard.

2 posts within 16 seconds quoting SageHarpuia's alt account? That's a little fishy.
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One big problem with feminism is it has stopped being about equality of opportunity (already achieved) and has become about equality of outcome.

Another problem is that tries to police the free choices of other women, shaming them for becoming stay at home moms, or strippers, or beauty pageant contestants.

Then it perpetuates this absolute lie that the only difference between men and women are their genitals, their are broad personality differences and temperamental differences between men and women...anyone who has lived in the real world knows this...and there is plenty of scientific literature to back this up besides.

Then there is the hypocrisy, men and women are equally strong and powerful and independent...yet they are constantly crying about more protection for the wiminz...which one is it, are you strong and powerful or do you need to be protected and coddled.

My biggest gripe has always been the straight up lie that women were oppressed by men for all of history. It's such bullshit, both genders had it bad for most of history and you can easily make the argument men had it worse. Men have spent all of history trying to protect women from the harshest realities of life and nature. Building better and better shelter from the elements, providing food by both hunting and back breaking farming, providing safety from natures predators, going off to war and dying by the thousands to protect the women and children back home. How the fuck do you look at history and a situation like the Titanic for example where 70% of women passengers survived and 80% of men died, because women first and literally come to the conclusion...the patriarchy hated women, fuck me.

Then they take a poll in the UK and 7% of women would call themselves feminists and they wonder why.
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