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Having taken everyone to at least semis, I feel like I can safely tier this.

Good Boys:

Chain Chomp

Feels Great:

Spike
Rosalina
Mario

Is Probably Bad But Is Also Waluigi:

Waluigi

Will Murder You In Lag:

Bowser

Notable Issues:

Peach
Yoshi

You Are Too Short How Do You Do Anything:

Toad

Gotten my 5k, feels good. Glad to have played. Holding off from more until muh boy DK finally comes out.
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hooray chain chomp
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lol ragequitters are so fun
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https://twitter.com/B8Gmun/status/1003033837985660928

come onnnnnnnnnnnn all that work
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i seem to be the best with waluigi

i just tried toad for the first time and reached semi's, his speed is nice
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okay after playing a while as h im

Chomp is b.r.o.k.e.n

god damn his reach will catch anything from the center and his power can easily send them straight to the wall with a max charge shot and nobody ever manages to catch a following drop shot
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CelesMyUserName posted...

okay after playing a while as h im

Chomp is b.r.o.k.e.n

god damn his reach will catch anything from the center and his power can easily send them straight to the wall with a max charge shot and nobody ever manages to catch a following drop shot

Yeeeeep

Unlike the other heavies (Bows and Spike), Chomp literally has no weaknesses and is super strong to boot
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https://twitter.com/AndreSegers/status/1003048237572358144
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Just faced a Bowser who had a bad connection yet conveniently only ever lagged when he was doing special shots or when I was trying to hit a trick shot

Hmm
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Zigzagoon posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

okay after playing a while as h im

Chomp is b.r.o.k.e.n

god damn his reach will catch anything from the center and his power can easily send them straight to the wall with a max charge shot and nobody ever manages to catch a following drop shot

Yeeeeep

Unlike the other heavies (Bows and Spike), Chomp literally has no weaknesses and is super strong to boot

https://twitter.com/B8Gmun/status/1003068073602007041
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Tried Peach for the first time.

Went 2-0 against Waluigi, 2-0 against Spike, 2-0 against Chomp, and finally 2-0 against Bowser.

That was unexpected!
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This game is fucking great. So glad it's living up to its potential. I was really hoping the mechanics had depth when that Direct dropped and now being able to confirm they do is great. These matches are so intense.

Just won my third tournament and I think I also went perfect 2 - 0 games in that one! (My first match may have gone 3 - 1 though, can't quite remember.) First tourney I won with Bowser and the last two have been Chomp. Yeah, dude is legit almost broken tier with that reach and only being slightly less powerful than Bowser.

Also am I the only one who struggles pulling off Zone Shots? I can never activate them right, though I seem to be getting better. Do you hold R or just press it? I think you just press R in the star and then press A immediately after? That seems to be working for me now. Previously I'd always enter zone speed by accident because I was holding R.

Also also, next things I need to get good at are blocking specials with zone speed and lobs/drop shots. Are there shortcuts to lobs and dropshots? Right now I think it's A then B for a lob and B then A for a drop, but I hear there's another way to do them?
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Down X does drop and Up X does Lob

Don't hit X twice though or you are gonna do a trick and miss the shot completely >=(

Really wish I could remove doing a trick with X
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I've noticed that too with the Zone Shots. Every time I try to do one, the ball just hits me in the face. Other than that, I'm having a blast, though. This game is suuuuuper good. I'm really excited for the full release. I hope they do something about Chain Chomp. The second-most powerful character in the demo really shouldn't be given the longest reach.

All that said, I finally won my first tournament! Only took me 14 tries.... >__>

But I kept getting to at least the third round pretty much every time, and I had to try out all the characters. I personally like Rosalina; her serves are insane, and her reach is pretty good. Spike is my #2, followed by Peach.

A good Bowser player is a thing to be feared, I've learned. I got absolutely smoked by one, 8 points to 1, in my second finals match, and that 1 was a Return Ace he just didn't position himself quite right for.

Oh, but against my second Chain Chomp, I pulled this off.
https://twitter.com/MrSmartGuyB8/status/1003168692144705543

Screw winning a tournament, that's definitely my greatest achievement so far.
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Hmm, interesting! I'm used to the a + b method now but I'll have to try that and see which I prefer. I checked out the tips and tricks menu too and on top of also explaining that way of doing lobs and drop shots, it's loaded with useful info I didn't know. Like countering top spin charge shots with slices -- and vice versa -- to reduce knockback. You can also counter charged flat shots with another flat shot to do the same. Also had no idea you can use zone shots from a serve.

Lots of cool info like that, so highly suggest checking that out. I also didn't even know about star shots this whole time, even though I kept seeing "star shot winner" after a point and wondered what the heck those were.
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there's a good reddit thread on r/nintendoswitch that compiled a lot of useful info, it's worth a read

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/8nvbxr/advanced_mario_tennis_guide_from_a_random_guy/
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Woo, got my second tournament win, this time with the Bows! I did terrible with him my first time through, but once I got used to him, he felt great to play as.

I'm gonna be sad when today passes, since I won't be able to play anymore. I'm having way too much fun, and I usually hate online 1v1 games.
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Alllright I'm done for my second day, just past the 30k mark w/30839 points~

23 tourneys, 136-28 wins/loss (164 matches)... now that I'm well trained with Chomp I haven't even lost a single match in forever, possibly the last 64 matches since I remember coming up on the 100th match is when I got into this zone oh man

yeah Chomp is just flat-out broken, I kinda feel bad facing some people when all these unavoidable moments get them oof

my last one was a Chomp vs Chomp and he was actually really good, turned out he has about my level of points too no wonder... couldn't get him in 2 rounds, but at least pulled out a 3-1 set match

https://twitter.com/B8Gmun/status/1003190970186285056

Too long for the whole thing but man really had to switch up my shots and even account for countering his topspins/slice because of damn Chomp knockback, he was getting lots of charges in this match.... Goddddd I love the mechanics of this game so much, it's just so intense.

as for Zone Shots, I generally just hold it and make my way to the star, just keeping it held until I jump. If you're not perfectly on the star yet you'll go to Zone Speed first, but you can just Zone Speed into your Zone Shot
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also there's literally nothing more satisfying than knocking someone's racquet to 1hp, and then getting their energy emptied in time for the Match Point and pretty much force them into breaking it on a final Zone Serve, barring some super good skills/luck.
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The game sounds great. Mechanically, what's it doing differently from Mario Power Tennis on the Gamecube? That was my main way to play tennis in this series before.
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Totally pumped for this game. Hoping to get to play a copy, love it, and then purchase it.
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i can't stand the lag

and also chain chomp is a pain in the ass to play against
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https://twitter.com/Zerms4/status/1003188055384223744?s=19
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HaRRicH posted...

The game sounds great. Mechanically, what's it doing differently from Mario Power Tennis on the Gamecube? That was my main way to play tennis in this series before.

For a brief starter version, heres the Nintendo Direct segment where they explained the various special shots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMHT2vdWvpg" data-time="
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HaRRicH posted...

The game sounds great. Mechanically, what's it doing differently from Mario Power Tennis on the Gamecube? That was my main way to play tennis in this series before.

Charging your shot also gives you a fighting game-esque meter gain, which is visible rather than Power Tennis's "your racquet will glow when you do it enough". You gain different abilities using this meter:

-By slowly depleting it, you can slow down time, replacing the Defensive Power Shot from Power Tennis by making balls more accessible. Balls that fly past the back out zone are still unable to be gotten.
-By using a quarter of it, by standing in a star area, you can use a "zone shot", which lets you pick where exactly on the court you want to hit the ball. If your opponent returns it, their racquet durability goes down one of three pips.
-By using full meter, you can use a special shot. This has the same properties as the zone shot, but if your opponent doesn't time a return exactly right, it will instantly break their racquet.

Racquet durability exists for zone shots and special shots. If racquet durability goes down to 0, the racquet breaks. If all of your racquets break (and you get two total), you get KO'd and automatically lose.

You can now perform 'trick shots', which basically move your character a set (long) distance to return the ball and build a ton of meter. Missing them by having poor spacing is very easy.

Waluigi is no longer objectively the worst and is viable. Likewise, speedy characters are no longer top tier, power characters are.

Meter seems to be very well-balanced in general and flows naturally rather than being a distracting element, and it no longer ends up as "who uses their power shot first" in a game of chicken like Mario Power Tennis was.
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Thanks for the video and explanation. I'm watching a tutorial of it now too...looks pretty hype.
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I want to see this game played at EVO. This feels like a better fighting game than ARMS.
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yes plz
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Well, I finally won a tournament, but it was as Chain Chomp.

It just doesn't feel right.

Chomp Guilt.
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Just won as Mario, nothing but 2-0s.

I take every Chomp I can get. Chain Chump.
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Lag is going to ruin this game, though

Like, I just faced somebody who lagged only when they hit the ball back and stars would never appear on their lobs
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Apparently if you hit the home button just as you serve and quickly hit it again to go back into the game, it'll make it like impossible for the person to return the serve =/
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That's one hell of a record GMUN. I'm 3x wins over losses and I feel great, but your record is just impeccable. Of course a lot of my losses were very early on and now most of them are in the finals (which is so much more painful though).

I'm nearing 10k points now and trying out new characters besides Chomp. Just won a tourney on my first time playing as Rosalina! She's really fun. Man curving those serves is great.

Also feel like there are probably a lot of amatures indeed playing Chomp, so I wouldn't automatically be scared about facing one. Played a couple Chomp ditto matches against some Chain Chumps myself. Also had the same guy back out on me twice in a row in what was supposed to be a Chomp ditto (it connected me right back to him when I searched). If you're scared of facing a fellow Chomper, you don't deserve to play him imho.

Aaaand I had my most epic rally ever in a Chomp ditto -- 80. Hit. Rally. For match point nonetheless. Felt so fucking good winning that. I think there were like 4 specials used in that single point alone. Don't know if I'm gonna top that!
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I don't back out against certain characters, but I indiscriminately back out against any red bars I see
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yeah same
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Hopped on for one more tournament, won the whole thing and only lost 2 points the entire time. 8-0, 8-1, 8-0, 8-1.

As much fun as it is, I do want to still enjoy the game fully when it comes out, too, so I'm gonna stop. Final stats:
Tournaments: 17
Titles: 3
45-14 record
6257 points
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it's so hard to find a match as a Chomp :(

full bar connections reject you

even fellow Chomps reject you

especially in the finals
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Good.
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and for that reason I actually do accept matches with 1 bar...

.... they surprisingly turn out fine a lot of the time though
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I wasn't initially rejecting reds, but then I had two instances where I literally could not return the serves. Like, they weren't angling them or anything. They were shooting them without moving/aiming/etc. Just no matter when I hit the button, it was always too late.
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noooooooo my win streak finally crushed, 29th win finally reached

damn if I pulled it off it would've been my 150th win :(

but wew that was a really good Spike, basically pulling off Trick Shots every single shot hot damn, I sometimes caught him expecting me to lob it behind him so he'd Trick back, but I'd instead repeat a drop shot and he's screwed, so fun

argh tho we went to Tiebreaker 6-6, he finally pulled out a racquet breaking Zone Shot on my last bit of health =/

tiny bit of lag so I was missing like all my block attempts augh
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Won another tournament as Peach

Now I don't only have that dirty Chomp win on my record!
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I'm getting into the habit of just destroying people's racquets now.

Instead of finishing them off when I got someone stuck powered against a wall, I just keep wailing on them to build up my special first

serves are always the best opportunity to damage
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Too many weird lag issues for me and it keeps putting me in matches against people who have played dozens of matches or more, so, not much of a great experience but glad Nintendo does demoes like this!
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3 tournament wins in a row and KO'd a racket on championship point on that last one. Most satisfying feeling ever. These tournies have all been decimations too -- now that I got blocking down to the point that even specials are no problem (as long as I have enough energy to zone speed a little), the dynamics have totally changed. And getting used to holding X instead of pressing it for drops and lobs has also made all the difference in the world. God I feel invincible. If you see a Chomp spinning around in circles like crazy after every point, that's me!

Also 65 matches in and I've only encountered lag twice and they were very early on matches. Even one bar connections seem to be no problem.
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Two tournament wins in a row as Peach

Think I need to retire on top
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Was going for my fifth championship in a row and barely lost to a Peach with 120k points after saving like six Championship points. Yeah, after I saw how many points this person had, the loss was a lot less devastating. Pretty damn proud that I put up a fight to someone with almost 12 times my point total. Wonder how long my tourney streak would have gone on for if that hadn't happened though.
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What are your all's biggest comebacks in this game? I never give up any point no matter what the score disparity. Just came back from a 2-6 tiebreaker, scoring the next six points in a row. Conjuring my inner Nadal
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Pretty much all my wins were steady. I had one match where I lost the first game, and then won the next 3. That's pretty much it. I came back from down 40-0 in a first game in one match and eventually won it after like 5 deuces, as well. Then I swept the second game. Must've demoralized him.
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Mine's easily the one I mentioned earlier

CelesMyUserName posted...

won my 2nd tourney, that was intense as helllllllllllllllllllll

I was mostly losing for the first while, came down to 2-1 sets with him at 40 and me 15, managed to Deuce it, the deuce lasted *FOR FUCKING EVER*, but at least I was always getting the Advantage.

Finally win the set, and on the Tiebreak I just cleaning him out 7-0. I compleeeeetely demoralized him omg aaaaaaaaaa that felt good

I am so sold on this game

^

When I say it was at 2-1, it was him 2 me 1, so if he won that 1 point forever ago he'd be good but I managed to come back with a complete bloody vengeance

Since getting good with Chomp I haven't really had any close matches barring the 1 that I lost against a really good Spike at a 6-6 Tiebreaker :(
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