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ExThaNemesis
06/06/18 5:14:36 PM
#201:


Honestly I didn't mean to start this multi-page argument. I didn't even consider reality TV when I made that statement.

Reality TV at least has good production values. This is just some assholes sitting in a Denny's.

Also like I said, Real World was AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWESOOOOOOOOOMMME
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HashtagSEP
06/06/18 5:16:24 PM
#202:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Honestly I didn't mean to start this multi-page argument. I didn't even consider reality TV when I made that statement.

Reality TV at least has good production values. This is just some assholes sitting in a Denny's.

Also like I said, Real World was AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWESOOOOOOOOOMMME


Oh, yeah. Reality TV is better than assholes live-streaming Denny's. It's just more similar than Metal_DK is ever going to admit.
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HashtagSEP
06/06/18 5:19:57 PM
#203:


Also, for the record, the rape case was settled and MTV released a statement that was basically "Well she was drunk and flirty all the time so she had it coming"

But protective environment it's all scripted CR'07 WHOOOOO!
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 5:20:20 PM
#204:


HashtagSEP posted...
Yeah man they scripted sexual assault and some guy almost losing vision in his eye

Sure man Casual Revolution whooooo


Never said incidents can't happen. You keep looking at some anecdotes not trends
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 5:20:41 PM
#205:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Also like I said, Real World was AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWESOOOOOOOOOMMME


lol. maybe you should get off your high horse about irl streaming.

also, those racist kids aren't the be-all and end-all of irl streaming. they're about as bottom of the barrel as you can get.
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CoolCly
06/06/18 5:21:30 PM
#206:


TomNook posted...
CoolCly posted...
Big Brother literally proves this with live feeds - you can tune in and watch what the houseguests are doing 24/7. You can watch them eat lunch or brush their teeth or talk strategy or play pattycake. There's no doubt about it - it's real and it has been doing this for almost 20 years

And yet, they don't allow you to see the Diary Rooms, where the producers do script things for them.


We know exactly what happens in diary rooms... they repeat statements about what's actually happening in the game in various levels of excitement. It's not a mystery and new information is rarely provided. It's just an expositional device to complement the actual gameplay happening.

Oh yeah I just wanna plug IMO the best reality TV competition - Strip Search by Penny Arcade. It follows all the hallmarks of your usual reality TV... and is definitely real despite using techniques like diary rooms and hosts and challenges.
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HashtagSEP
06/06/18 5:21:33 PM
#207:


Metal_DK posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
Yeah man they scripted sexual assault and some guy almost losing vision in his eye

Sure man Casual Revolution whooooo


Never said incidents can't happen. You keep looking at some anecdotes not trends


The trend of irl streaming isn't that incidents happen all the time, either, so... gg?
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 5:25:15 PM
#208:


HashtagSEP posted...
The trend of irl streaming isn't that incidents happen all the time, either, so... gg?


I never said the incident was the majority of irl streaming. I said the incident was the product of the new era, This stuff will happen more because the new Era of irl streaming....so GG?

Really u just hate how I use the word casual, it's as dirty of a word on the net as anything now.
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HashtagSEP
06/06/18 5:28:20 PM
#209:


No I hate how you will bend literally any argument you can just so you can go "The Casual Revolution caused this"

Like, even ExTha just went "My bad I didn't even think about reality TV when I said that" and he's the one I replied to in the first place but you're still truckin'
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 5:29:44 PM
#210:


Doesn't mean he's correct, plenty of people see my point and have agreed with me itt

and social media and the centralized Internet changed society immensely.
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HashtagSEP
06/06/18 5:31:35 PM
#211:


Metal_DK posted...
Doesn't mean he's correct


I mean he's correct as far as to what he said and what I replied to and we're gonna leave it at that

He may not be "correct" about whatever the hell you've tried to warp this into but whatev have fun
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CoolCly
06/06/18 5:34:45 PM
#212:


Metal_DK posted...

I think you never moved on to grow up and realize that reality TV is a lot of bullshit, even the real world due to protections that you neglect. If you want to go that route of discussion fine.


This is literally admitting he has a personal belief that reality TV has to be scripted and that anyone believes otherwise is just being childish. So attempting to convince him otherwise is pointless - he's decided already that it is.
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 5:36:37 PM
#213:


That was more in response to his attack fwiw
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 5:37:12 PM
#214:


extha is definitely not correct about the real world being better than the entire genre of irl streaming because of "the production values" lmao
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ExThaNemesis
06/06/18 5:38:38 PM
#215:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
extha is definitely not correct about the real world being better than the entire genre of irl streaming because of "the production values" lmao


I'm correct that it's better because it gave us The Miz.
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StealThisSheen
06/06/18 5:44:45 PM
#216:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
extha is definitely not correct about the real world being better than the entire genre of irl streaming because of "the production values" lmao


I'm correct that it's better because it gave us The Miz.


This is the most true thing in the topic
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ExThaNemesis
06/06/18 5:45:28 PM
#217:


If IRL streaming grants us the best heel wrestler of the next generation I'll be happy to admit defeat but until then.

I CAME TO PLAY
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StealThisSheen
06/06/18 5:47:07 PM
#218:


ExThaNemesis posted...
If IRL streaming grants us the best heel wrestler of the next generation I'll be happy to admit defeat but until then.

I CAME TO PLAY


Not only did reality TV give us The Miz, but it's going to allow us to watch the life of the most must see baby in sports entertainment
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 5:48:49 PM
#219:


HashtagSEP posted...

He may not be "correct" about whatever the hell you've tried to warp this into but whatev have fun


I didn't warp it into anything. I'm explaining why your interpretation of the real world (the only show youve been really saying btw) is not the same as the interpretation of irl streaming. There are plenty more controlled aspects of even the real world than these
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StealThisSheen
06/06/18 5:54:24 PM
#220:


Metal_DK posted...
HashtagSEP posted...

He may not be "correct" about whatever the hell you've tried to warp this into but whatev have fun


I didn't warp it into anything. I'm explaining why your interpretation of the real world (the only show youve been really saying btw) is not the same as the interpretation of irl streaming. There are plenty more controlled aspects of even the real world than these


Pretty sure ExTha literally didn't say anything about "controlled" environments

He literally said

ExThaNemesis posted...
Wait so this is a thing now, Real Life streaming?

People tune in to watch someone else's life

for once I think Metal DK is right


Reality TV is watching someone else's life. You are the one that started trying to find ways that it's different such as "protective environments" (protective as in they film somebody being raped and don't do anything about it) just so you could shout "casual revolution" from the rooftops

You're obsessed, dude

Not gonna read another post from you until you get over it
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 6:03:21 PM
#221:


If you are going to be childish like that gl to you as well. Calling real world someone's life like those irl streams just a big stretch to me. And screams I loved the reality TV age and don't want to admit the manufactured parts at all. Sorry I upset you tho and gl
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StealThisSheen
06/06/18 6:07:30 PM
#222:


For the record, I hated reality TV. I was just aware of it because I had a mother and sister that loved it

I admitted the manufacturedness of it. Hell, I was the one that brought some of it up (that they pick specific personalities, etc.)

The issue is that you're too far on the other side and don't want to admit that it's not 100% manufactured like you think it is. I mean, I'm sorry, but you can't claim they create a "protective environment" when people can still be assaulted and robbed and raped and other things. What the hell kind of "protective environment" is that.

Seriously this is my last post work is over so I can leave now bye
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davidponte
06/06/18 6:19:12 PM
#223:


This has been fun.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 6:26:52 PM
#224:


Metal_DK posted...
Calling real world someone's life like those irl streams just a big stretch to me.


calling irl streams like the one by the racist kids "someone's life" is also a big stretch. it's not like those kids are acting like they always would and we just happen to see it because a phone camera is recording it. as has been pointed out a gazillion times by now, they're clearly playing characters.

i will admit that it becomes more real when they get into a fight with the black guys (because the black guys are not in on it), but even then it's not 100% real. i don't buy for a second that the girl going "I'M SCAAARED! STOP IT!" is actually that scared. she's just acting that way to make it seem more dramatic for the camera.
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 7:18:28 PM
#225:


It's not their everyday life I agree. But the situation is a lot less manufactured
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 7:20:33 PM
#226:


StealThisSheen posted...
The issue is that you're too far on the other side and don't want to admit that it's not 100% manufactured like you think it is. I mean, I'm sorry, but you can't claim they create a "protective environment" when people can still be assaulted and robbed and raped and other things. What the hell kind of "protective environment" is that.


I never said it's 100%. It's a fair bit more than irl streams though.
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redrocket
06/06/18 8:31:29 PM
#227:


You're both wrong.

The correct takeaway here is that the Casual Revolution actually had its beginnings back in 1992!
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Kenri
06/06/18 8:33:32 PM
#228:


redrocket posted...
The correct takeaway here is that the Casual Revolution actually had its beginnings back in 1992!

ngl this actually makes a lot of sense
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 8:33:58 PM
#229:


actually, the casual revolution started in 1973 (when an american family aired).
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scarletspeed7
06/06/18 8:41:05 PM
#230:


Actually it has its origins in ancient Rome when the root word casus developed, meaning "fall".
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redrocket
06/06/18 8:44:22 PM
#231:


The Casual Revolution of 1992:

- The Real World airs, singlehandedly creating the most braindead genre of entertainment in any medium.

- Super Mario Kart releases, forever tainting the racing genre by creating the uber casual "kart racer."

- Wolfenstein 3D releases, leading to the unholy plague of the first person shooter, which would later be adopted as one of the staples of "dudebro" culture.

- Mortal Kombat releases, forever dumbing down the fighting genre by luring in players who care more about pretty graphics, gratuitous gore, and flashy finishing moves than games focusing on technical skill.

- Sonic 2 releases. A masterpiece by itself, yet it would spell the eventual doom of a once proud franchise by starting the trend of introducing new sidekicks/supporting characters in every game.

Fight me.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 8:46:41 PM
#232:


so the casual revolution is all about video games (and one tv show)?
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 8:47:36 PM
#233:


also, the real world didn't create reality tv. an american family did (as i just said).
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redrocket
06/06/18 8:47:41 PM
#234:


Another big one, Ross Perot launches his presidential campaign, starting the trend of candidates with zero political experience being taken seriously which eventually culminates in the election of Donald goddamn Trump.
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redrocket
06/06/18 8:48:24 PM
#235:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
so the casual revolution is all about video games (and one tv show)?


I'm literally doing this on the fly, cut me some damn slack.
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redrocket
06/06/18 8:54:24 PM
#236:


Windows 3.1 launches, the final nail in the coffin for MS-DOS, and by extension, command line UIs (lol linux).
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redrocket
06/06/18 8:56:16 PM
#237:


The first video telephone is released by AT&T.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 8:57:34 PM
#238:


forgive my ignorance of operating systems, but why was windows 3.1 the final nail in the coffin for ms-dos? why not windows 3.0?
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redrocket
06/06/18 9:06:57 PM
#239:


Because 3.1 came after 3.0. Do you literally not understand what final nail means?
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redrocket
06/06/18 9:12:04 PM
#240:


McDonald's opens its first restaurant in China, and Disney expands into Europe with Euro Disney. This continues the trend of global culture being centralized around American culture, which would later be mirrored by the centralization of internet culture starting in 2007.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 9:19:48 PM
#241:


redrocket posted...
Because 3.1 came after 3.0. Do you literally not understand what final nail means?


obviously i do, i was just wondering if 3.1 did something in particular that made ms-dos obsolete or something.
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CoolCly
06/06/18 9:20:33 PM
#242:


clearly 3.0 was just another nail
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 9:31:56 PM
#243:


Windows 3.1 is the best version so ya
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Mr Lasastryke
06/06/18 9:41:17 PM
#244:


98 has the best startup sound though.
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Metal_DK
06/06/18 10:33:09 PM
#245:


Also Wolfenstein didn't really start dudebro fps culture, halo in 2001 (the 01 to 07 Era begginging oddly enough) did most of that, maybe goldeneye in 97
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Mr Lasastryke
06/07/18 5:37:10 AM
#246:


i think that's what he's saying, that the fps genre got "adopted" by dudebro culture. wolfenstein just invented the genre.

you can make a pretty good argument for 2001 being the start of the casual revolution, come to think of it. halo comes out, starting the era of dudebro gaming. and bejeweled comes out, which would lead to the epitome of casual gaming: candy crush saga.

i feel like dudebros play a lot of fifa, too. anyone know when that started? (edit: i mean "when did dudebros start playing fifa?", not "when did the fifa series start?")
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Metal_DK
06/07/18 9:13:36 AM
#247:


2001 was around the start of the Era before the casual revolution which 2007 ended. I've said this itt and others.

9/11, party of the 90s ending, .Com bubble bursting, 56k fading into dsl (56k was still the majority of users until 2003 though, but a lot of that were old people), etc.

Entertainment seeing things like the Patriots dynasty begging (which in 07 saw a second Era with their 16-0 season and in 2017 seeing the first major rifts in the big 3), American Idol (also a show that's reality TV but not really similar to irl streaming at all....again the fact that he thinks 1 show that is still a bit different is all he kept talking about proves my point. Watching "people's lives" on the real world is not really the same as this.), began in early 02, survivor (another show I don't really see as super similar to irl streaming tbh, maybe a tad but not much) was 2000 iirc. Halo and Microsoft becoming popular, but 07 was when we started to see western gaming dominate consoles and pc.
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HashtagSEP
06/07/18 10:44:22 AM
#248:


Metal_DK posted...
3), American Idol (also a show that's reality TV but not really similar to irl streaming at all....again the fact that he thinks 1 show that is still a bit different is all he kept talking about proves my point. Watching "people's lives" on the real world is not really the same as this.)


Holy crap dude people moved on.

You have problems. Seek help.
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Metal_DK
06/07/18 10:51:59 AM
#249:


Why are you still here? You said you didn't care anymore, declared yourself completely correct, and said you were leaving. If you don't want to discuss it anymore, then stop?

Perhaps you need help?
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HashtagSEP
06/07/18 10:55:48 AM
#250:


I mean I never declared myself completely correct, I only tried to say why you were wrong in one instance. And yeah, I am done debating it, but if you're going to act like a shithead child and continue to try and take jabs then I'm gonna assume you have issues
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