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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 1:30:11 PM
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I'm genuinely confused. A war makes up for the generational misery they inflicted on anyone who wasnt a white Christian male? Minority groups to this day are still trying to come up from under policies and the general atmosphere perpetrated by the "greatest" generation
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Bestoffuture
06/06/18 1:31:51 PM
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Because fuck Nazis.
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glitteringfairy
06/06/18 1:37:27 PM
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They are called the greatest generation because they stepped up and fought a tyrant that could have easily taken over the world if they hadn't.

Your feelings pertaining to whatever you're bitching about take a back seat to that.
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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 1:39:07 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
They are called the greatest generation because they stepped up and fought a tyrant that could have easily taken over the world if they hadn't.

Your feelings pertaining to whatever you're bitching about take a back seat to that.


This, right here, is white privilege on display

"We have to come together to defeat Hitler! Oh, you're concerned about the KKK and the government literally making your people second class citizens? Fuck you"
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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 1:42:32 PM
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African american involvement in D Day, and the amount of racism they had to endure from the army they were made to fight for

https://twitter.com/FredTJoseph/status/1004346057902493696?s=19

Greatest generation...fuck outta here. Grandpappy went over to fight nazis, only to come home and continue shitting on black folks and I'm supposed to celebrate that?!
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_BIueMonk
06/06/18 1:43:46 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
"We have to come together to defeat Hitler! Oh, you're concerned about the KKK and the government literally making your people second class citizens? Fuck you"

well to be fair, this contradiction kinda helped spur the civil rights movements that came after it in the 50s.

but yea, kinda dumb to fight a racist dictator with your army is segregated.
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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 1:44:59 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
You really must have a miserable life. Holy shit.


Looking at american history as a non flag waver...and I'm the miserable one. Ok
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Drowning__Fish_
06/06/18 1:45:30 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Greatest generation...f*** outta here. Grandpappy went over to fight nazis, only to come home and continue s***ting on black folks and I'm supposed to celebrate that?!


I agree with this, but

FrisbeeDude posted...
"We have to come together to defeat Hitler! Oh, you're concerned about the KKK and the government literally making your people second class citizens? f*** you"


I feel like the magnitude difference of both groups makes the threat bigger, even if the hate coming from both groups is the same. And I am a brown man my dood
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Vyrulisse
06/06/18 1:46:38 PM
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You're either in high school or a college Freshman to believe this tripe.
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chill02
06/06/18 1:47:06 PM
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Nazis were pretty pretty awful people, to say the least
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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 1:47:29 PM
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I feel like the magnitude difference of both groups makes the threat bigger, even if the hate coming from both groups is the same. And I am a brown man my dood

Both groups were threats. The only difference is America didnt take their game international. Neither should be celebrated
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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 1:48:47 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
You're either in high school or a college Freshman to believe this tripe.


What did I say that wasnt accurate? Did the same soldiers who fought in WW2 not largely support the segregationist society back home?
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EbonTitanium
06/06/18 1:49:34 PM
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It's pretty messed up how black people fought bravely in every American war, but were always seen as cowards who will run at the first sound of gun fire.
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MedzXVIII
06/06/18 1:50:26 PM
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Holocaust
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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 1:51:57 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
Holocaust


...then came home and did all the same, but mass murder, to blacks. (to be fair, lynching is a fairly inefficient way to exterminate a group of people)
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UnholyMudcrab
06/06/18 1:54:37 PM
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VectorChaos
06/06/18 2:02:40 PM
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Ah, 2018, where an inept orange oaf is considered Super Hitler 2.0 masterminding the Fourth Reich, and the people who defeated actual fucking Hitler and actual fucking Nazis are all being generalized as just as bad as Nazis because whiteness.
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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 2:03:07 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
You're trying way too hard, man


So you dont have an argument, and instead, decided to vent your hurt feelings? Does reality trigger you?
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Vicious_Dios
06/06/18 2:03:35 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
They are called the greatest generation because they stepped up and fought a tyrant that could have easily taken over the world if they hadn't.

Your feelings pertaining to whatever you're bitching about take a back seat to that.


This, right here, is white privilege on display

"We have to come together to defeat Hitler! Oh, you're concerned about the KKK and the government literally making your people second class citizens? Fuck you"


He says this as he's typing it up on his phone or pc thanks to the first amendment.

He's so oppressed.
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Caution999
06/06/18 2:04:28 PM
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As the grandson of a WWII vet, fuck off.

I wish he was still alive. You cant meet someone like that anymore. One of kind generation.
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shokan_warrior
06/06/18 2:07:46 PM
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everyone forgets the japanese
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EbonTitanium
06/06/18 2:08:32 PM
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shokan_warrior posted...
everyone forgets the japanese

No, that's Italy.
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shokan_warrior
06/06/18 2:13:37 PM
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EbonTitanium posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
everyone forgets the japanese

No, that's Italy.

still fought nazis

all i hear is nazis nazis nazis

GODDAMN ednough already i'm tired of it

lmao leave hitler alone

let him rest in peace

lets talk about the japanese for once

you know

the guys who ATTACKED us first

the guys who got us into the war officially

but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

we gotta focus on europe because they're white

cannot put the colored men as a major enemy NOOOOOOOOO

f*** off
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Criminalt
06/06/18 2:18:41 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
So you dont have an argument


Unless you can name some of the slave labour camps set up for American blacks after 1945, or pinpoint the ghettoes with starvation rations which blacks were forbidden to leave on pain of death in the 1950s, your "post-war American Holocaust was exactly the same as the Nazi Holocaust only with a smaller body count" argument isn't going to stand up either.

Here's your problem: you can't just type up any old dogshit you feel like and demand that people gulp it down without question. If you've got a valid point, don't bury it under dogshit. You could have drawn genuine parallels between the Tuskegee Experiment and some of the Nazi medical experiments on human beings, for example, but no; you couldn't resist the temptation to take it too far and claim that everything the Nazi authorities did -- short of mass extermination -- was mirrored perfectly by US government policy after 1945.
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gnomefromnome
06/06/18 2:21:43 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
decided to vent your hurt feelings?

He says as he creates this topic lmao
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A_Good_Boy
06/06/18 2:21:53 PM
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You hear that, black people circa 1945. You weren't even slaves anymore, so why the complaints?
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shokan_warrior
06/06/18 2:22:52 PM
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germany was the enemy and they were defeated

lets not turn it into some BS good vs evil narrative because its not

its evil vs lesser evil

the US has been exploiting other countries in latin america during that time and after for its own ends and was domestically abusing citizens

the only high ground they had was not outright murdering people and for preserving the "free market" and "freedom/rights"

the US is incredibly hypocritical

they have this beautiful document in their constitution but conveniently ignore its founding principles in everyday life to mistreat undesirables

gtfo with thinking you're saints compared to nazis, you're just less evil racists with a better socioeconomic blueprint
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UnholyMudcrab
06/06/18 2:33:35 PM
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shokan_warrior posted...

TC had to bring out the sockpuppet already
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shokan_warrior
06/06/18 2:35:59 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
Holocaust

japanese murder of the chinsese, nanking, unit 731, as examples

the holodomer

and so on and so on

the holocaust is not unique

we ought to remember all of the victims of genocide everywhere
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shokan_warrior
06/06/18 2:36:17 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

TC had to bring out the sockpuppet already

i am my own man but i low key agree with TC
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KillerKhan420
06/06/18 2:40:17 PM
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Lol, it's only a matter of time before they reach the world war eras, they haven't even tore down the Alamo yet, and that's a racist beacon too right?
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Balrog0
06/06/18 2:41:16 PM
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the fact that they destroyed black wallstreet etc is part of what people think is great about them
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VectorChaos
06/06/18 2:42:34 PM
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How long until this idiocy comes full circle and regressives start viewing Nazi Germany as a victim of American aggression and imperialism?

You know it's inevitable because fuck America
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shokan_warrior
06/06/18 2:45:06 PM
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VectorChaos posted...
How long until this idiocy comes full circle and regressives start viewing Nazi Germany as a victim of American aggression and imperialism?

You know it's inevitable because fuck America

tbf the US was very antagonistic toward germany without declaring war

the US was involved in arming and defending british shipping way before pearl harbor

and roosevelt was DESPERATE for an excuse to enter the war

germany declared war on the US anyway so it doesn't really matter
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DifferentialEquation
06/06/18 2:46:25 PM
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You leftists think you're pretty great for calling anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders a nazi and then punching them, so it only makes sense that the generation that killed actual nazis would be the greatest.
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Caution999
06/06/18 2:47:23 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
You leftists think you're pretty great for calling anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders a nazi and then punching them, so it only makes sense that the generation that killed actual nazis would be the greatest.


I was gonna post this as well.
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shokan_warrior
06/06/18 2:48:21 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Generation

Although Tom Brokaw claims in his book that the generation that fought in U.S. forces during World War II were the greatest any society has produced, militarily this view has not been supported; since the U.S. soldiers were "significantly less well trained than their opponents, three out of four American soldiers did not shoot to good effect in combat" [2] and "despite the fact that the US Army was willing to accept virtually anyone over five feet tall who weighed more than 105lb and who had 12 or more of his own teeth, 40 percent of citizens failed these basic criteria."[3][4]


lawl

pound for pound the german soldier was the best one because of experience for the majority of the war

only matched by the western soldiers by then end of the war and surpassed by the russians by 1944 ish

i guess they're viewed as the best because of "defending freedom" or something
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Pillowpantz
06/06/18 2:50:52 PM
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DezDroppedFreak
06/06/18 2:58:07 PM
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Idk but its source material for one of the greatest alternative rock/pop punk albums of the decade
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Pillowpantz
06/06/18 2:58:47 PM
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Criminalt
06/06/18 3:02:10 PM
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Pillowpantz posted...
Republicans defeated the Nazis and the Commies.


Really? Care to identify which US infantry divisions were Republican and which were Democrat?
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Pillowpantz
06/06/18 3:04:25 PM
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Criminalt posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
Republicans defeated the Nazis and the Commies.


Really? Care to identify which US infantry divisions were Republican and which were Democrat?


Eisenhower and Reagan.
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ShutTheF---_Up
06/06/18 3:05:26 PM
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shokan_warrior posted...
EbonTitanium posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
everyone forgets the japanese

No, that's Italy.

still fought nazis

all i hear is nazis nazis nazis

GODDAMN ednough already i'm tired of it

lmao leave hitler alone

let him rest in peace

lets talk about the japanese for once

you know

the guys who ATTACKED us first

the guys who got us into the war officially

but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

we gotta focus on europe because they're white

cannot put the colored men as a major enemy NOOOOOOOOO

f*** off


What the actual living fuck is wrong with you
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Sativa_Rose
06/06/18 3:08:20 PM
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Look at how minorities were treated in Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan.
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emblem boy
06/06/18 3:09:07 PM
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I won't shit on the efforts of that generation during the war. They did good.
I've never been sure about calling them the "greatest generation" though. Mainly because I feel like any generation put in a similar situation will end up doing great things as well.
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Criminalt
06/06/18 3:12:47 PM
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Pillowpantz posted...
Criminalt posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
Republicans defeated the Nazis and the Commies.


Really? Care to identify which US infantry divisions were Republican and which were Democrat?


Eisenhower and Reagan.


Come on, that's about as historically accurate as claiming the outcome of the war was decided by Eleanor Roosevelt and Eva Braun mud wrestling.
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Pillowpantz
06/06/18 3:14:25 PM
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FrisbeeDude
06/06/18 3:52:45 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Look at how minorities were treated in Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan.


Ok...and?
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