Current Events > Did you know that it is illegal to abort a child with down syndrome in Ohio?

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Abyssea 06/08/18 1:05:50 PM #1:	Just wanted to put this out here to try and help cegals in ohio: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-gov-john-kasich-signs-down-syndrome-abortion-ban-n832336 If you're thinking of getting an abortion, whatever you do, don't get it tested for down syndrome. Because if you find out it has down syndrome, you're stuck with it and carrying it to full term. I'm sorry John Kasich thought this was a good idea. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902777227] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>Just wanted to put this out here to try and help cegals in ohio: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-gov-john-kasich-signs-down-syndrome-abortion-ban-n832336 If you're thinking of getting an abortion, whatever you do, don't get it tested for down syndrome. Because if you find out it has down syndrome, you're stuck with it and carrying it to full term. I'm sorry John Kasich thought this was a good idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 06/08/18 1:07:25 PM #2:	That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want --- 0 Post Topic http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:902777318] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/08/18 1:09:33 PM #3:	RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902777436] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want</quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 06/08/18 1:10:45 PM #4:	Can't they just go somewhere else? --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:902777516] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>Can't they just go somewhere else?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:11:30 PM #5:	Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902777552] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want</quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare.</quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/08/18 1:11:44 PM #6:	TheCyborgNinja posted... Can't they just go somewhere else? True, I guess they could make it a road trip. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902777567] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheCyborgNinja posted...</cite> <quote>Can't they just go somewhere else?</quote> True, I guess they could make it a road trip.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/08/18 1:12:02 PM #7:	It's pretty disgusting, but currently being challenged in court and will probably be overturned. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:902777592] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty disgusting, but currently being challenged in court and will probably be overturned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WrkHrdPlayHrdr 06/08/18 1:12:37 PM #8:	Wouldn't someone who wants to get an abortion just get an abortion? The law seems aimed at people getting abortions only because they found out the kid has down syndrome. Whether you agree with the law or not is a different story. --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od <cite>WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted [p:902777630] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>Wouldn't someone who wants to get an abortion just get an abortion? The law seems aimed at people getting abortions only because they found out the kid has down syndrome. Whether you agree with the law or not is a different story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/08/18 1:14:05 PM #9:	Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. I'm not a woman, but couldn't you just make another baby that didn't have down syndrome? Girls have like 1000s of eggs waiting in their ovaries. If you have more eggs than you could ever use, why place all your money on the one with down syndrome? I'd reboot it and try again. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902777719] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want</quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare.</quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> I'm not a woman, but couldn't you just make another baby that didn't have down syndrome? Girls have like 1000s of eggs waiting in their ovaries. If you have more eggs than you could ever use, why place all your money on the one with down syndrome? I'd reboot it and try again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 06/08/18 1:14:34 PM #10:	Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion --- 0 Post Topic http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:902777742] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want</quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare.</quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:15:54 PM #11:	RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902777819] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion</quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 06/08/18 1:17:18 PM #14:	JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. There are countless people with Down syndrome who would be offended by this because they live fulfilling lives. But I'm sure they would prefer to have fulfilling lives without the down syndrome part. <cite>Trelve posted [p:902777891] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want</quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare.</quote> There are countless people with Down syndrome who would be offended by this because they live fulfilling lives.</quote> But I'm sure they would prefer to have fulfilling lives without the down syndrome part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 06/08/18 1:17:19 PM #15:	I don't fully understand this law. The article says your choice can't be made to terminate based on down syndrome. Can't you just give the vague answer of "I don't want this baby" instead? How would they even go about proving your reasoning? --- PSN: Jiek FFRK: Tyro God Wall KZcv <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:902777893] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>I don't fully understand this law. The article says your choice can't be made to terminate based on down syndrome. Can't you just give the vague answer of "I don't want this baby" instead? How would they even go about proving your reasoning?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/08/18 1:18:50 PM #16:	Howl posted... RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:902777984] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion</quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters.</quote> Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abyssea 06/08/18 1:21:51 PM #18:	Jiek_Fafn posted... I don't fully understand this law. The article says your choice can't be made to terminate based on down syndrome. Can't you just give the vague answer of "I don't want this baby" instead? How would they even go about proving your reasoning? Well, republicans and evangelicals wrote it so you can't expect it to make too much sense. It sounded to me like if that baby has down syndrome, control over your uterus is revoked until such time as that baby pops out. So I guess women who are seeking abortions need to refuse any sort of testing be done on the fetus otherwise they might be issued a court order to pop that baby out. I just hope these evangelicals are ready to adopt the surplus of down syndrome babies going up for adoption. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902778167] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jiek_Fafn posted...</cite> <quote>I don't fully understand this law. The article says your choice can't be made to terminate based on down syndrome. Can't you just give the vague answer of "I don't want this baby" instead? How would they even go about proving your reasoning?</quote> Well, republicans and evangelicals wrote it so you can't expect it to make too much sense. It sounded to me like if that baby has down syndrome, control over your uterus is revoked until such time as that baby pops out. So I guess women who are seeking abortions need to refuse any sort of testing be done on the fetus otherwise they might be issued a court order to pop that baby out. I just hope these evangelicals are ready to adopt the surplus of down syndrome babies going up for adoption.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 06/08/18 1:22:01 PM #19:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome#Abortion_rates About 92% of pregnancies in Europe with a diagnosis of Down syndrome are terminated. In the United States, termination rates are around 67%, but this rate varied from 61% to 93% among different populations. Rates are lower among women who are younger and have decreased over time. When nonpregnant people are asked if they would have a termination if their fetus tested positive, 2333% said yes, when high-risk pregnant women were asked, 4686% said yes, and when women who screened positive are asked, 8997% say yes. --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:902778177] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome#Abortion_rates <quote>About 92% of pregnancies in Europe with a diagnosis of Down syndrome are terminated. In the United States, termination rates are around 67%, but this rate varied from 61% to 93% among different populations. Rates are lower among women who are younger and have decreased over time. When nonpregnant people are asked if they would have a termination if their fetus tested positive, 2333% said yes, when high-risk pregnant women were asked, 4686% said yes, and when women who screened positive are asked, 8997% say yes.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 06/08/18 1:22:24 PM #20:	Abyssea posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. I'm not a woman, but couldn't you just make another baby that didn't have down syndrome? Girls have like 1000s of eggs waiting in their ovaries. If you have more eggs than you could ever use, why place all your money on the one with down syndrome? I'd reboot it and try again. I don't think it's that simple. Even things like miscarriages that happen early on in pregnancy can hit father and mothers quite hard. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:902778198] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> I'm not a woman, but couldn't you just make another baby that didn't have down syndrome? Girls have like 1000s of eggs waiting in their ovaries. If you have more eggs than you could ever use, why place all your money on the one with down syndrome? I'd reboot it and try again.</quote> I don't think it's that simple. Even things like miscarriages that happen early on in pregnancy can hit father and mothers quite hard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:24:30 PM #21:	voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book. Because having Down Syndrome is not a death warrant to a life of misery as you so succinctly put it. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902778311] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. </quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion </quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters.</quote> Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book.</quote> Because having Down Syndrome is not a death warrant to a life of misery as you so succinctly put it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/08/18 1:25:48 PM #22:	Howl posted... voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book. Because having Down Syndrome is not a death warrant to a life of misery as you so succinctly put it. It basically is though. All this shit about "fulfilling lives" is nothing but a coping mechanism. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:902778401] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. </quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion </quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters.</quote> Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book.</quote> Because having Down Syndrome is not a death warrant to a life of misery as you so succinctly put it.</quote> It basically is though. All this shit about "fulfilling lives" is nothing but a coping mechanism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShutTheF---_Up 06/08/18 1:25:53 PM #23:	voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book. I'm pro-choice but does everyone with down syndrome really live miserable lives? That doesn't sound accurate. --- Another Conflict alt cause mawds don't like me <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted [p:902778405] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion</quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters.</quote> Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book.</quote> I'm pro-choice but does everyone with down syndrome really live miserable lives? That doesn't sound accurate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/08/18 1:25:57 PM #24:	Howl posted... voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book. Because having Down Syndrome is not a death warrant to a life of misery as you so succinctly put it. Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You? --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902778412] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. </quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion </quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters.</quote> Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book.</quote> Because having Down Syndrome is not a death warrant to a life of misery as you so succinctly put it.</quote> Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:26:54 PM #25:	ShutTheF---_Up posted... voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book. I'm pro-choice but does everyone with down syndrome really live miserable lives? That doesn't sound accurate. It isn't. They're just literally making shit up with 0 evidence. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902778461] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. </quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion </quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. </quote> Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book.</quote> I'm pro-choice but does everyone with down syndrome really live miserable lives? That doesn't sound accurate.</quote> It isn't. They're just literally making shit up with 0 evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trelve 06/08/18 1:27:05 PM #26:	ShutTheF---_Up posted... voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book. I'm pro-choice but does everyone with down syndrome really live miserable lives? That doesn't sound accurate. But if there's a way that your child doesn't have to go through it, surely that's a better option? <cite>Trelve posted [p:902778473] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion</quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters.</quote> Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book.</quote> I'm pro-choice but does everyone with down syndrome really live miserable lives? That doesn't sound accurate.</quote> But if there's a way that your child doesn't have to go through it, surely that's a better option?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/08/18 1:27:49 PM #27:	Howl posted... voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... RE_expert44 posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters. Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book. Because having Down Syndrome is not a death warrant to a life of misery as you so succinctly put it. Or you can abort the fetus if you choose and skip the whole situation. Disabled kids require even more time and money. It would be unfair to raise them in a shitty home. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:902778518] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. </quote> You would be surprised how easy it is to get over an abortion </quote> No, I wouldn't. I know that a lot of people are heartless monsters.</quote> Why willingly bring a child into the world knowing it'll live a miserable life? That's way more cruel than abortion in my book.</quote> Because having Down Syndrome is not a death warrant to a life of misery as you so succinctly put it.</quote> Or you can abort the fetus if you choose and skip the whole situation. Disabled kids require even more time and money. It would be unfair to raise them in a shitty home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:28:51 PM #28:	Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You? How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902778581] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><quote>Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You?</quote> How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/08/18 1:29:19 PM #29:	Trelve posted... But if there's a way that your child doesn't have to go through it, surely that's a better option? Yea, I could understand if you only had that one egg left. "This is the best you're gonna get" basically. But if you're a young woman and have plenty of time left to try again, I'd just give it another shot instead. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902778609] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trelve posted...</cite> <quote>But if there's a way that your child doesn't have to go through it, surely that's a better option?</quote> Yea, I could understand if you only had that one egg left. "This is the best you're gonna get" basically. But if you're a young woman and have plenty of time left to try again, I'd just give it another shot instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KarmaMuffin 06/08/18 1:29:42 PM #30:	ShutTheF---_Up posted... I'm pro-choice but does everyone with down syndrome really live miserable lives? That doesn't sound accurate. No, there are different levels of down syndrome with some being able to live fairly independently and others who need help with very basic tasks. Much of the time this can be helped with education and training, so it may not be "set in stone" when they're born. However, I'm of the mind that it's selfish of parents to keep a child with severe disabilities. I have a cousin who has down syndrome, his siblings never got to have real experiences with the parents because they were so focused on the one with DS. They both are expected to take after him once the parents are incapable/dead, so their lives are not really theirs for no fault of their own. <cite>KarmaMuffin posted [p:902778639] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pro-choice but does everyone with down syndrome really live miserable lives? That doesn't sound accurate. </quote> No, there are different levels of down syndrome with some being able to live fairly independently and others who need help with very basic tasks. Much of the time this can be helped with education and training, so it may not be "set in stone" when they're born. However, I'm of the mind that it's selfish of parents to keep a child with severe disabilities. I have a cousin who has down syndrome, his siblings never got to have real experiences with the parents because they were so focused on the one with DS. They both are expected to take after him once the parents are incapable/dead, so their lives are not really theirs for no fault of their own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:30:44 PM #31:	Or you can abort the fetus if you choose and skip the whole situation. Disabled kids require even more time and money. It would be unfair to raise them in a shitty home. "Let's just kill people because they're inconvenient." Imagine speaking the same way about old people who require similar levels of treatment. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902778700] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><quote>Or you can abort the fetus if you choose and skip the whole situation. Disabled kids require even more time and money. It would be unfair to raise them in a shitty home.</quote> "Let's just kill people because they're inconvenient." Imagine speaking the same way about old people who require similar levels of treatment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 06/08/18 1:31:10 PM #32:	my sister has down syndrome and i love her to bits, but that's really shitty of ohio. downs kids can be an enormous burden on parents <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:902778728] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>my sister has down syndrome and i love her to bits, but that's really shitty of ohio. downs kids can be an enormous burden on parents</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/08/18 1:31:43 PM #33:	Howl posted... Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You? How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome. If they don't want a kid with downs but are forced to birth it, logic dictates most of them are being put up for adoption. Then most of those adoption kids go into shitty institutions to live like a caged animal because very few want to adopt a kid with downs. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:902778767] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You?</quote> How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome.</quote> If they don't want a kid with downs but are forced to birth it, logic dictates most of them are being put up for adoption. Then most of those adoption kids go into shitty institutions to live like a caged animal because very few want to adopt a kid with downs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/08/18 1:33:00 PM #34:	Howl posted... Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You? How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome. If a woman was trying to get an abortion to begin with and was stopped because the baby has down syndrome, do you think she's going to want to keep the baby once she gives birth to it? The moral high ground sounds nice, but at the end of the day you're left with a bunch of down syndrome kids with no one to raise them. If completely healthy kids have trouble finding homes, what chance do the down syndrome ones have? So as I said, are you going to adopt any of these down syndrome kids or not? :v You're the one who wants them brought into the world after all. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902778831] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You?</quote> How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome.</quote> If a woman was trying to get an abortion to begin with and was stopped because the baby has down syndrome, do you think she's going to want to keep the baby once she gives birth to it? The moral high ground sounds nice, but at the end of the day you're left with a bunch of down syndrome kids with no one to raise them. If completely healthy kids have trouble finding homes, what chance do the down syndrome ones have? So as I said, are you going to adopt any of these down syndrome kids or not? :v You're the one who wants them brought into the world after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/08/18 1:33:15 PM #35:	Howl posted... Or you can abort the fetus if you choose and skip the whole situation. Disabled kids require even more time and money. It would be unfair to raise them in a shitty home. "Let's just kill people because they're inconvenient." Imagine speaking the same way about old people who require similar levels of treatment. Old people have been born. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:902778845] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Or you can abort the fetus if you choose and skip the whole situation. Disabled kids require even more time and money. It would be unfair to raise them in a shitty home.</quote> "Let's just kill people because they're inconvenient." Imagine speaking the same way about old people who require similar levels of treatment.</quote> Old people have been born.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShutTheF---_Up 06/08/18 1:33:45 PM #36:	voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You? How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome. If they don't want a kid with downs but are forced to birth it, logic dictates most of them are being put up for adoption. Then most of those adoption kids go into shitty institutions to live like a caged animal because very few want to adopt a kid with downs. Nah but don't you see, there's a minimal amount of times where people actually do adopt them, so clearly it's a successful and reasonable practice --- Another Conflict alt cause mawds don't like me <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted [p:902778875] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You?</quote> How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome.</quote> If they don't want a kid with downs but are forced to birth it, logic dictates most of them are being put up for adoption. Then most of those adoption kids go into shitty institutions to live like a caged animal because very few want to adopt a kid with downs.</quote> Nah but don't you see, there's a minimal amount of times where people actually do adopt them, so clearly it's a successful and reasonable practice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aristoph 06/08/18 1:34:14 PM #37:	Howl posted... Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You? How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome. A woman who wanted an abortion but was forced to keep a baby with Down Syndrome because of this law would most likely not want to raise the child. The fact that it was born doesn't change the fact that the mother didn't want it in the first place. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules <cite>Aristoph posted [p:902778894] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Who is going to raise these down syndrome kids if their own mothers don't want them? You?</quote> How does this question in any way justify a woman aborting her own child? This is predicated upon the certainty that no woman will raise their own child with Down Syndrome.</quote> A woman who wanted an abortion but was forced to keep a baby with Down Syndrome because of this law would most likely not want to raise the child. The fact that it was born doesn't change the fact that the mother didn't want it in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 06/08/18 1:35:23 PM #38:	eugenics is bad, mkay --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:902778964] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>eugenics is bad, mkay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trelve 06/08/18 1:35:43 PM #39:	Howl posted... Or you can abort the fetus if you choose and skip the whole situation. Disabled kids require even more time and money. It would be unfair to raise them in a shitty home. "Let's just kill people because they're inconvenient." Imagine speaking the same way about old people who require similar levels of treatment. No-one is saying that we should round up people with down syndrome and put them in camps. We're saying if you can abort the fetus at an early age, then you should do. It's why we have these screenings now, so you can spot massive problems like this. It's better to be born without down syndrome than with it, I'm sure we can all agree? <cite>Trelve posted [p:902778982] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Or you can abort the fetus if you choose and skip the whole situation. Disabled kids require even more time and money. It would be unfair to raise them in a shitty home.</quote> "Let's just kill people because they're inconvenient." Imagine speaking the same way about old people who require similar levels of treatment.</quote> No-one is saying that we should round up people with down syndrome and put them in camps. We're saying if you can abort the fetus at an early age, then you should do. It's why we have these screenings now, so you can spot massive problems like this. It's better to be born without down syndrome than with it, I'm sure we can all agree?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/08/18 1:36:07 PM #40:	Philoktetes posted... eugenics is bad, mkay Being forced to raise disabled children is bad mmkay --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:902779001] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Philoktetes posted...</cite> <quote>eugenics is bad, mkay</quote> Being forced to raise disabled children is bad mmkay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:38:13 PM #41:	This topic should literally just be titled "Not Spartan Approved" Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. People here are literally defending women making the decision to murder their own child just because they believe it will be a burden. Truly horrific ideas tbh. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902779121] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote>This topic should literally just be titled "Not Spartan Approved" Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. People here are literally defending women making the decision to murder their own child just because they believe it will be a burden. Truly horrific ideas tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/08/18 1:38:57 PM #42:	Howl posted... Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. I don't think so Tim If anything they'll look back on religion and say "what in the literal fucking shit were they doing?" --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:902779150] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide.</quote> I don't think so Tim If anything they'll look back on religion and say "what in the literal fucking shit were they doing?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:40:07 PM #43:	voldothegr8 posted... Howl posted... Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. I don't think so Tim Whats the difference in what the Spartans did and what's happening today? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902779212] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide.</quote> I don't think so Tim</quote> Whats the difference in what the Spartans did and what's happening today?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/08/18 1:40:08 PM #44:	Howl posted... This topic should literally just be titled "Not Spartan Approved" Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. People here are literally defending women making the decision to murder their own child just because they believe it will be a burden. Truly horrific ideas tbh. Thank God these ideas are gaining traction every day to be honest. What will be looked back at as barbarism is how we used to tell women what to do with their bodies and force them to endure pregnancies and raise children against their will because an old religion's holy book said sex is just a job you perform when you want to procreate. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:902779213] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>This topic should literally just be titled "Not Spartan Approved" Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. People here are literally defending women making the decision to murder their own child just because they believe it will be a burden. Truly horrific ideas tbh.</quote> Thank God these ideas are gaining traction every day to be honest. What will be looked back at as barbarism is how we used to tell women what to do with their bodies and force them to endure pregnancies and raise children against their will because an old religion's holy book said sex is just a job you perform when you want to procreate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShutTheF---_Up 06/08/18 1:40:41 PM #45:	Howl posted... Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. Hahahaha Yeah. By the same geniuses who think anti-discrimination laws amount to 'slavery' for the businesses. Good candidate for dumbest post of 2018 tho --- Another Conflict alt cause mawds don't like me <cite>ShutTheF---_Up posted [p:902779244] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide.</quote> Hahahaha Yeah. By the same geniuses who think anti-discrimination laws amount to 'slavery' for the businesses. Good candidate for dumbest post of 2018 tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 06/08/18 1:40:54 PM #46:	Howl posted... Whats the difference in what the Spartans did and what's happening today? we dont throw weak babies over cliffs <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:902779254] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Whats the difference in what the Spartans did and what's happening today? </quote> we dont throw weak babies over cliffs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/08/18 1:41:10 PM #47:	Howl posted... This topic should literally just be titled "Not Spartan Approved" Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. People here are literally defending women making the decision to murder their own child just because they believe it will be a burden. Truly horrific ideas tbh. When are you going to answer the question though Howl? How many down syndrome kids have you adopted? How many do you plan to adopt? :v You've got the moral posturing down, but when are you going to put your money where your mouth is? --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:902779265] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>This topic should literally just be titled "Not Spartan Approved" Abortion is a truly disgusting practise and will be looked back on in history as a form of genocide. People here are literally defending women making the decision to murder their own child just because they believe it will be a burden. Truly horrific ideas tbh.</quote> When are you going to answer the question though Howl? How many down syndrome kids have you adopted? How many do you plan to adopt? :v You've got the moral posturing down, but when are you going to put your money where your mouth is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Top Crusader 06/08/18 1:41:13 PM #48:	emblem boy posted... Abyssea posted... Howl posted... Abyssea posted... RE_expert44 posted... That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards. I'm not a woman, but couldn't you just make another baby that didn't have down syndrome? Girls have like 1000s of eggs waiting in their ovaries. If you have more eggs than you could ever use, why place all your money on the one with down syndrome? I'd reboot it and try again. I don't think it's that simple. Even things like miscarriages that happen early on in pregnancy can hit father and mothers quite hard. Yeah, a friend of mine and his wife lost a couple of babies early term and it really scarred them for life--she just couldn't handle it and basically went nuts and they ended up divorcing. That stuff deeply affects people. And in the case of my wife and I we had to spend about 20 grand to get pregnant. It's easy for a lot of people but not everyone. As for the topic, though, while I'm against abortion in theory (but I have a fairly long list of "what if's?" where I'd okay it), it does seem inconsistent with the law to say a woman can't have an abortion that they otherwise legally could just for the reason of downs syndrome. --- https://imgur.com/09qFfLV <cite>The Top Crusader posted [p:902779267] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> That's fucked up. Forcing them to have a kid they dont want </quote> Yea, I can't think of much worse than before forced to carry a child to full term that you know is going to have a lifelong disability from the get go. What a nightmare. </quote> I can think of something worse. Killing your own baby and living with yourself aftewards.</quote> I'm not a woman, but couldn't you just make another baby that didn't have down syndrome? Girls have like 1000s of eggs waiting in their ovaries. If you have more eggs than you could ever use, why place all your money on the one with down syndrome? I'd reboot it and try again.</quote> I don't think it's that simple. Even things like miscarriages that happen early on in pregnancy can hit father and mothers quite hard.</quote> Yeah, a friend of mine and his wife lost a couple of babies early term and it really scarred them for life--she just couldn't handle it and basically went nuts and they ended up divorcing. That stuff deeply affects people. And in the case of my wife and I we had to spend about 20 grand to get pregnant. It's easy for a lot of people but not everyone. As for the topic, though, while I'm against abortion in theory (but I have a fairly long list of "what if's?" where I'd okay it), it does seem inconsistent with the law to say a woman can't have an abortion that they otherwise legally could just for the reason of downs syndrome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
more_cow_bell 06/08/18 1:42:09 PM #49:	hockeybub89 posted... Old people have been born. prove it --- https://media.giphy.com/media/Qj07xH0I1AaZy/giphy.gif https://imgur.com/0O95M https://imgur.com/IV8gR2Z <cite>more_cow_bell posted [p:902779317] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Old people have been born.</quote> prove it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/08/18 1:42:09 PM #50:	FrenchCrunch posted... Howl posted... Whats the difference in what the Spartans did and what's happening today? we dont throw weak babies over cliffs No, we just crush their skulls with a blunt instrument and suck their body parts out with a vaccuum one by one. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5 <cite>Howl posted [p:902779319] in Did you kn... [t:76686545]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Whats the difference in what the Spartans did and what's happening today? </quote> we dont throw weak babies over cliffs</quote> No, we just crush their skulls with a blunt instrument and suck their body parts out with a vaccuum one by one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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