Poll of the Day > Trump might walk out in the first minute of meeting with Un

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He just said that he will know in one minute how serious Un is, and if he doesn't like it, he will leave

so the meeting could only last a minute and break down

Why are we still even giving him attention
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I'm getting a little tired of all the pointless posturing Trump's doing about this meeting. It's getting old. Just meet and sort **** out, Trump. Nobody cares how flippant you can act on Twitter.
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He's a complete manchild. The definition of a spoiled brat. "If I don't get what I want, I'm taking my toys and leaving!"
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Two people who lead massive cults of personality, who throw a fit whenever someone says no, who claim to be bigger, richer, smarter and more important than they really are. How could that meeting possibly go wrong?

Why did you call it the "Un" and not the "UN"?
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shadowsword87 posted...

Why did you call it the "Un" and not the "UN"?

Kim Jong Un, leader of North Korea

Or, in other words, you might say he might walk out en un minuto >_>

Mead posted...

Why are we still even giving him attention

Which one now?

Far-Queue posted...

He's a complete manchild. The definition of a spoiled brat. "If I don't get what I want, I'm taking my toys and leaving!"

If they aren't willing to agree to or even consider certain terms, it's not worth sitting through the rest of the meeting. Otherwise what exactly happens? You spend 8 hours while accomplishing nothing which, by the way, is one reason why the US has been discouraged from taking the meeting because NK critics worry that we're going to be raising KJU's standing in the eyes of the world while getting nothing for it. And all along critics and pundits have suggested that KJU isn't actually serious (although some are likely just saying that to cut off Trump's nuts for agreeing to the meeting -- which is why a few outlets backtracked when the meeting was off and used it to attack Trump)
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Far-Queue posted...

He's a complete manchild. The definition of a spoiled brat. "If I don't get what I want, I'm taking my toys and leaving!"

Literally how all business works. Both have toys the other wants, if they're told they can't have the other one's toy then they don't share theirs.
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that would be pretty funny
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I really had no fucking clue how people could possibly look at the orange bitch and see a strong leader.
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Phantom_Nook posted...

I really had no fucking clue how people could possibly look at the orange bitch and see a strong leader.

Because every other leader is extremely soft and deflects from conflict at all costs, which is like the most beta way you can be.
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Which one now?

The fat orange one that keeps saying terrible shit
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Zeus posted...

If they aren't willing to agree to or even consider certain terms, it's not worth sitting through the rest of the meeting. Otherwise what exactly happens? You spend 8 hours while accomplishing nothing which, by the way, is one reason why the US has been discouraged from taking the meeting because NK critics worry that we're going to be raising KJU's standing in the eyes of the world while getting nothing for it. And all along critics and pundits have suggested that KJU isn't actually serious (although some are likely just saying that to cut off Trump's nuts for agreeing to the meeting -- which is why a few outlets backtracked when the meeting was off and used it to attack Trump)

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Literally how all business works. Both have toys the other wants, if they're told they can't have the other one's toy then they don't share theirs.

That is how business works on a very basic level, sure. But adults know how to negotiate.

While it's good to have convictions and have expectations and even demands, adults understand conversations and negotiations are a back-and-forth, give-and-take process. If you head into a meeting with a closed mind and won't even consider listening to what the other party has to offer, then you're a fucking moron and a manbaby. Maybe they won't completely kowtow to your demands, but you may be able to reach some compromise that works for both parties. Can't reach a compromise if you're not willing to listen in the first place.

And yes, sometimes negotiations end in a stalemate. But at least if you're willing to listen to the other party, you can come away from the meeting knowing they're expectations and go back to the drawing board to see if something can be done to rework the deal. Or you can figure out if their demands are simply beyond being reasonable and you can say to them "We're not willing to re-enter negotiations until you back down on such-and-such.

My point is, adults know how to handle situations like this. Manchildren, like Trump, huff and puff and stick their fingers in their ears and won't listen to anything that isn't the other party sucking their dick. Which is stupid, and counter-productive. Ergo, Trump is a stupid manchild.
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So, you would rather the Bill Clinton approach, where, in his presidency, announced that he had a deal that North Korea would not develop a nuclear weapon?

Trump is better than those "professional" and "adult" phonies. He is not going to waste his time for brownie points.

TheWorstPoster posted...

So, you would rather the Bill Clinton approach, where, in his presidency, announced that he had a deal that North Korea would not develop a nuclear weapon?

As opposed to Trump, who has said he is going to get a deal where North Korea will permanently get rid of their nuclear weapons?
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darkknight109 posted...

As opposed to Trump, who has said he is going to get a deal where North Korea will permanently get rid of their nuclear weapons?

He is. Just like how he pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal (which Obama made, which gave Iran over $100 billion dollars, and nuclear material, with the promise that Iran would never ever make nuclear weapons, despite funding them and giving them the tools to make nuclear weapons).

TheWorstPoster posted...

darkknight109 posted...

As opposed to Trump, who has said he is going to get a deal where North Korea will permanently get rid of their nuclear weapons?

He is. Just like how he pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal (which Obama made, which gave Iran over $100 billion dollars, and nuclear material, with the promise that Iran would never ever make nuclear weapons, despite funding them and giving them the tools to make nuclear weapons).

Good point - the Iran deal (which, by all metrics - and there were a lot of them, thanks to inspectors having an extraordinarily high level of access to the country and its nuclear sites - Iran was complying with) is an excellent reason why North Korea probably won't even bother to seriously entertain a deal with Trump, given that he has shown he's perfectly willing to withdraw from a deal entered into in good faith and to which all parties are complying, simply because he doesn't like it. I totally agree.

You may want to brush up on your facts, though - Obama neither gave any money to Iran (he released frozen money that was already Iran's to begin with, which is a pretty far cry from "giving them $100 billion") nor gave them nuclear material (to the contrary, Iran agreed to give up 97% of its enriched uranium and closed down 14,000 of 20,000 centrifuges).
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TheWorstPoster posted...

darkknight109 posted...

As opposed to Trump, who has said he is going to get a deal where North Korea will permanently get rid of their nuclear weapons?

He is. Just like how he pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal (which Obama made, which gave Iran over $100 billion dollars, and nuclear material, with the promise that Iran would never ever make nuclear weapons, despite funding them and giving them the tools to make nuclear weapons).

I'm sure you get this a lot, you're really living up to your name.
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Wish my country had a leader like Trump.
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