Current Events > Is creationism compatible with evolution in your opinion?

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Well?
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yes, but not young earth creationism.
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KILBOTz posted...

yes, but not young earth creationism.

depends on how deities measure time, broseph
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KILBOTz posted...

yes, but not young earth creationism.

Don't waste our time.
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creationism

LOL
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Not with the Biblical account, unless you take an extremely liberal stance on it, throw out some of the verses, and/or change their meanings; but at that point, why would you even bother devoting yourself to it?
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It can be, God is an alien after all.
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http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution

In 2011, the results of a study was published indicating that most United States high school biology teachers are reluctant to endorse the theory of evolution in class. [5] In addition, in 2011, eight anti-evolution bills were introduced into state legislatures within the United States encouraging students to employ critical thinking skills when examining the evolutionary paradigm. In 2009, there were seven states which required critical analysis skills be employed when examining evolutionary material within schools.[6]

A 2005 poll by the Louis Finkelstein Institute for Social and Religious Research found that 60% of American medical doctors reject Darwinism, stating that they do not believe man evolved through natural processes alone.[7] Thirty-eight percent of the American medical doctors polled agreed with the statement that "Humans evolved naturally with no supernatural involvement." [8] The study also reported that 1/3 of all medical doctors favor the theory of intelligent design over evolution.

The theory of evolution posits a process of transformation from simple life forms to more complex life forms, which has never been observed or duplicated in a laboratory.[14] Although not a creation scientist, Swedish geneticist Dr. Nils Heribert-Nilsson, Professor of Botany at the University of Lund in Sweden and a member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, stated: "My attempts to demonstrate Evolution by an experiment carried on for more than 40 years have completely failed. At least, I should hardly be accused of having started from a preconceived antievolutionary standpoint.

Michael Ruse, the atheist and evolutionist science philosopher admitted, Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.[146] In the leading American science science journal Science, Michael Ruse published an article in 2003 entitled Is Evolution a Secular Religion?

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Here's what I don't get. If evolution hinges soley on the Earth being billions of years old, and Earth is assumed to be that old because of, among other things, carbon dating, then who's to say the earth wasn't created as though it had been there for a long time already?
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No. Creationism is at odds with evolution. I dont think you can call them compatible, unless you really start stretching their definitions. In my experience, religious people tend to do that when they insist that their god must have participated in whatever new advancement has been achieved through scientific methods.
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solely*
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Creationism isn't compatible with anything that would require brainpower.
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SageHarpuia posted...

Here's what I don't get. If evolution hinges soley on the Earth being billions of years old, and Earth is assumed to be that old because of, among other things, carbon dating, then who's to say the earth wasn't created as though it had been there for a long time already?

what would be the point of that?
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Cant God create evolving species?
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boxington posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

Here's what I don't get. If evolution hinges soley on the Earth being billions of years old, and Earth is assumed to be that old because of, among other things, carbon dating, then who's to say the earth wasn't created as though it had been there for a long time already?

what would be the point of that?

God works in mysterious ways. (Please I need my crutch)
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boxington posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

Here's what I don't get. If evolution hinges soley on the Earth being billions of years old, and Earth is assumed to be that old because of, among other things, carbon dating, then who's to say the earth wasn't created as though it had been there for a long time already?

what would be the point of that?

So that it wouldn't feel like the inside of an oven?
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Creationism isn't compatible with anything that would require brainpower.

No. I remember a really cringy argument my friend tried to make once about how "macro-evolution is impossible" but "micro-evolution" is real. He pissed all over himself, as his defense for this ridiculous belief was thing things can change a little bit but not a lot. "So they can become a new species?" "..."
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SageHarpuia posted...

Not with the Biblical account, unless you take an extremely liberal stance on it, throw out some of the verses, and/or change their meanings; but at that point, why would you even bother devoting yourself to it?

Which is funny if you think about it as that's what the modern bible is. It is a result of centuries of picking and choosing which verses to keep and which to throw out and what meanings the ones they keep have.
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SageHarpuia posted...

boxington posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

Here's what I don't get. If evolution hinges soley on the Earth being billions of years old, and Earth is assumed to be that old because of, among other things, carbon dating, then who's to say the earth wasn't created as though it had been there for a long time already?

what would be the point of that?

So that it wouldn't feel like the inside of an oven?

why would it need to be hot in the first place, if God's just snapping it into existence?
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

No. I remember a really cringy argument my friend tried to make once about how "macro-evolution is impossible" but "micro-evolution" is real. He pissed all over himself, as his defense for this ridiculous belief was thing things can change a little bit but not a lot. "So they can become a new species?" "..."

It's a difference in process. Microevolution never results in new traits, it just changes the way current traits are expressed.
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boxington posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

boxington posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

Here's what I don't get. If evolution hinges soley on the Earth being billions of years old, and Earth is assumed to be that old because of, among other things, carbon dating, then who's to say the earth wasn't created as though it had been there for a long time already?

what would be the point of that?

So that it wouldn't feel like the inside of an oven?

why would it need to be hot in the first place, if God's just snapping it into existence?

Because carbon is an improtant element?
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I'm not sure I follow.

because carbon is important, the world potentially appears to be much older than it absolutely is?
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yes, but why
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God creating most of the universe and then leaving the rest to evolution would be half-assing it in my opinion. Either a god created the universe complete, life included, or it slowly changed itself to the state that it is today without any kind of deity intervening.
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boxington posted...

I'm not sure I follow.

because carbon is important, the world potentially appears to be much older than it absolutely is?

Young earth = more carbon = hotter temps

No heat = no carbon = no life
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SageHarpuia posted...

boxington posted...

I'm not sure I follow.

because carbon is important, the world potentially appears to be much older than it absolutely is?

Young earth = more carbon = hotter temps

No heat = no carbon = no life

Your one true God is pretty lame if he has to follow physics.
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loooool
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What if god is the laws of physics, or better yet, the universe itself?

God is within you... god is all around you... it makes sense.
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I don't see why the idea of artificial creation of life is incompatible with evolution and its processes.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

KILBOTz posted...

yes, but not young earth creationism.

depends on how deities measure time, broseph

No it doesn't. We are looking at things through a human time scale. How dieties measure time is independent of that.
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