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BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 8:29:22 AM #1:	Your main character's sexual orientation should not be a selling or advertising point for a video game. ~~Except in porn games >_>~~ It feels like we lost sight of things and care more about sending messages or making statements than we do the game itself. I don't know it just feels like this is less about writing a story where a character happens to be gay and more that this about being able to parade around a gay protagonist for diversity points. </rant> --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903228664] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>Your main character's sexual orientation should not be a selling or advertising point for a video game. Except in porn games >_> It feels like we lost sight of things and care more about sending messages or making statements than we do the game itself. I don't know it just feels like this is less about writing a story where a character happens to be gay and more that this about being able to parade around a gay protagonist for diversity points. </rant></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 06/14/18 8:31:25 AM #2:	>people don't bat an eye at the various examples of hetero relationships playing out in other games >see one lesbian pair kiss >lose collective shit --- https://imgur.com/kpXTakw https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:903228733] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>>people don't bat an eye at the various examples of hetero relationships playing out in other games >see one lesbian pair kiss >lose collective shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 06/14/18 8:31:53 AM #3:	like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff --- https://imgur.com/kpXTakw https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:903228749] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tamashiini 06/14/18 8:31:57 AM #4:	And yet no one would have batted an eye if a straight couple was being paraded around to sell the game. Hmmmmmm. --- PSN: helicene Careful, Icarus. <cite>tamashiini posted [p:903228750] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>And yet no one would have batted an eye if a straight couple was being paraded around to sell the game. Hmmmmmm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 06/14/18 8:32:16 AM #5:	Would it bother you if it were a heterosexual kiss? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:903228759] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>Would it bother you if it were a heterosexual kiss?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 06/14/18 8:33:59 AM #6:	tamashiini posted... And yet no one would have batted an eye if a straight couple was being paraded around to sell the game. Hmmmmmm. You'd probably have those "this is promoting heteronormative" nutters saying something about it. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 15008 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:903228816] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>tamashiini posted...</cite> <quote>And yet no one would have batted an eye if a straight couple was being paraded around to sell the game. Hmmmmmm.</quote> You'd probably have those "this is promoting heteronormative" nutters saying something about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 06/14/18 8:35:26 AM #7:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff This Back in my day, we LIKED lesbians --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:903228867] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff</quote> This Back in my day, we LIKED lesbians</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 8:37:09 AM #8:	If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game? --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903228937] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sobergermanguy 06/14/18 8:38:08 AM #9:	Mr_Biscuit posted... YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff This Back in my day, we LIKED lesbians you mean you liked straight women going gay for pay --- You choc-blocked me, bro <cite>sobergermanguy posted [p:903228966] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff</quote> This Back in my day, we LIKED lesbians</quote>you mean you liked straight women going gay for pay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 06/14/18 8:38:24 AM #10:	BatmanWTtP posted... If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game? No no. I'm asking, if nothing else changed except for the kiss being straight - would you take issue with it? It's yes or no. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:903228979] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game?</quote> No no. I'm asking, if nothing else changed except for the kiss being straight - would you take issue with it? It's yes or no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthWendy 06/14/18 8:38:56 AM #11:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff And what about women ? That some immature or hyperpuberty manboys get horny and giggle in silly voices "hue hue hue etc" is one thing. But what of women ? Straight white healthy conservative women witnessing this, and not intending in the least to be exposed to such things ? Being grossed out only counts when it's men ? What about us ? Personally it grosses me out. I don't MIND it, as long as they don't do it in my face. --- Ave Caesar, Rosae Rosam et Spiritus Rex ! - Voila, ca ne veut absolument rien dire, mais l'effet reste le meme. https://imgur.com/z1pkX <cite>DarthWendy posted [p:903228992] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff</quote> And what about women ? That some immature or hyperpuberty manboys get horny and giggle in silly voices "hue hue hue etc" is one thing. But what of women ? Straight white healthy conservative women witnessing this, and not intending in the least to be exposed to such things ? Being grossed out only counts when it's men ? What about us ? Personally it grosses me out. I don't MIND it, as long as they don't do it in my face.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 06/14/18 8:39:28 AM #12:	BatmanWTtP posted... If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game? Easy. To get more attention, and to show how progressive they are at the same time. The people who are complaining about it will still buy it, unless they weren't going to buy it to begin with. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 15008 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:903229015] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game?</quote> Easy. To get more attention, and to show how progressive they are at the same time. The people who are complaining about it will still buy it, unless they weren't going to buy it to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tamashiini 06/14/18 8:40:47 AM #13:	DarthWendy posted... YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff And what about women ? That some immature or hyperpuberty manboys get horny and giggle in silly voices "hue hue hue etc" is one thing. But what of women ? Straight white healthy conservative women witnessing this, and not intending in the least to be exposed to such things ? Being grossed out only counts when it's men ? What about us ? Personally it grosses me out. I don't MIND it, as long as they don't do it in my face. Playing a game where lots of people get slaughtered is ok but a lesbian kiss is a bridge too far, eh? --- PSN: helicene Careful, Icarus. <cite>tamashiini posted [p:903229063] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthWendy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff</quote> And what about women ? That some immature or hyperpuberty manboys get horny and giggle in silly voices "hue hue hue etc" is one thing. But what of women ? Straight white healthy conservative women witnessing this, and not intending in the least to be exposed to such things ? Being grossed out only counts when it's men ? What about us ? Personally it grosses me out. I don't MIND it, as long as they don't do it in my face.</quote> Playing a game where lots of people get slaughtered is ok but a lesbian kiss is a bridge too far, eh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ranlom 06/14/18 8:40:51 AM #14:	"Why do gays have to flaunt their sexuality? Nobody cares." "A gay kiss?! Not in my vidya games!" --- ~Forward, Relentlessly~ "What the heck is Ranlom?" - lunchboxssj <cite>Ranlom posted [p:903229068] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>"Why do gays have to flaunt their sexuality? Nobody cares." "A gay kiss?! Not in my vidya games!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vamp_Aubrey 06/14/18 8:41:33 AM #15:	DarthWendy posted... YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff And what about women ? That some immature or hyperpuberty manboys get horny and giggle in silly voices "hue hue hue etc" is one thing. But what of women ? Straight white healthy conservative women witnessing this, and not intending in the least to be exposed to such things ? Being grossed out only counts when it's men ? What about us ? Personally it grosses me out. I don't MIND it, as long as they don't do it in my face. Darth Wendy, as a fellow member of the tribe, I think you are wrong here. Our people have been discriminated against throughout all of history. Imagine if major video game studios catered to people who said they are disgusted by a Jewish couple kissing First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me. --- http://giant.gfycat.com/DefensiveSnappyHartebeest.gif https://imgur.com/65rUq1c https://imgur.com/7SNyDjv <cite>Vamp_Aubrey posted [p:903229100] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthWendy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote> like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff </quote> And what about women ? That some immature or hyperpuberty manboys get horny and giggle in silly voices "hue hue hue etc" is one thing. But what of women ? Straight white healthy conservative women witnessing this, and not intending in the least to be exposed to such things ? Being grossed out only counts when it's men ? What about us ? Personally it grosses me out. I don't MIND it, as long as they don't do it in my face.</quote> Darth Wendy, as a fellow member of the tribe, I think you are wrong here. Our people have been discriminated against throughout all of history. Imagine if major video game studios catered to people who said they are disgusted by a Jewish couple kissing First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 06/14/18 8:41:45 AM #16:	But TC how else will the developers let everyone know how progressive they are? Think McFly! --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvMeQpu9-sg <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:903229111] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>But TC how else will the developers let everyone know how progressive they are? Think McFly!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 06/14/18 8:41:53 AM #17:	I get that it's not the kiss that's important but that things have calmed down, that the zombie hell is over and the world is normal again or close to it. Of course it won't last. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:903229116] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>I get that it's not the kiss that's important but that things have calmed down, that the zombie hell is over and the world is normal again or close to it. Of course it won't last.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 8:42:03 AM #18:	scar the 1 posted... BatmanWTtP posted... If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game? No no. I'm asking, if nothing else changed except for the kiss being straight - would you take issue with it? It's yes or no. The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind. --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903229122] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game?</quote> No no. I'm asking, if nothing else changed except for the kiss being straight - would you take issue with it? It's yes or no.</quote> The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 06/14/18 8:44:14 AM #19:	BatmanWTtP posted... scar the 1 posted... BatmanWTtP posted... If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game? No no. I'm asking, if nothing else changed except for the kiss being straight - would you take issue with it? It's yes or no. The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind. I see what you're saying, but you still didn't answer his question directly. Be prepared for him to ask again. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 15008 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:903229200] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game?</quote> No no. I'm asking, if nothing else changed except for the kiss being straight - would you take issue with it? It's yes or no.</quote> The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind.</quote> I see what you're saying, but you still didn't answer his question directly. Be prepared for him to ask again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 06/14/18 8:44:15 AM #20:	BatmanWTtP posted... The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind. It sounds like you're saying that her sexual orientation and people's reaction to it is a part of the story? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:903229202] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind.</quote> It sounds like you're saying that her sexual orientation and people's reaction to it is a part of the story?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 06/14/18 8:45:45 AM #21:	DarthWendy posted... YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff And what about women ? That some immature or hyperpuberty manboys get horny and giggle in silly voices "hue hue hue etc" is one thing. But what of women ? Straight white healthy conservative women witnessing this, and not intending in the least to be exposed to such things ? Being grossed out only counts when it's men ? What about us ? Personally it grosses me out. I don't MIND it, as long as they don't do it in my face. lmfao I'm weak --- https://imgur.com/kpXTakw https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:903229252] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthWendy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff</quote> And what about women ? That some immature or hyperpuberty manboys get horny and giggle in silly voices "hue hue hue etc" is one thing. But what of women ? Straight white healthy conservative women witnessing this, and not intending in the least to be exposed to such things ? Being grossed out only counts when it's men ? What about us ? Personally it grosses me out. I don't MIND it, as long as they don't do it in my face.</quote> lmfao I'm weak</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/14/18 8:46:48 AM #22:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... >people don't bat an eye at the various examples of hetero relationships playing out in other games I dunno, I've been complaining for years about how every damn movie has to have a stupid romance subplot. The way I see it, the only difference with video games is that it's more like 15% or so instead of 100%. Which is reasonable. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif https://imgur.com/kU5vu5N Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:903229290] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>>people don't bat an eye at the various examples of hetero relationships playing out in other games</quote> I dunno, I've been complaining for years about how every damn movie has to have a stupid romance subplot. The way I see it, the only difference with video games is that it's more like 15% or so instead of 100%. Which is reasonable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 06/14/18 8:48:28 AM #23:	The massive freaking out is why we need more lesbian kisses in video games. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:903229359] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>The massive freaking out is why we need more lesbian kisses in video games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 06/14/18 8:49:10 AM #24:	sobergermanguy posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff This Back in my day, we LIKED lesbians you mean you liked straight women going gay for pay No, that too, but not just that. Girls kissing was hot, period, and I didnt lose my shit about THE LIBERAAAALS --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:903229391] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>like wtf is wrong with yall remember when two girls would kiss and guys would just get excited instead of whining about SJW stuff</quote> This Back in my day, we LIKED lesbians</quote>you mean you liked straight women going gay for pay</quote> No, that too, but not just that. Girls kissing was hot, period, and I didnt lose my shit about THE LIBERAAAALS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 06/14/18 8:50:32 AM #25:	you can infer what you want, but it seemed with the "everyone is staring" line, Ellie's friend is the type to draw attention, as evidenced by people paying attention to her and dude she was dancing with, and Ellie being the kind of person who doesn't want that kinda attention so much plus we don't know how homosexually is seen in their society, because even though we've seen gay characters in the games, no one has commented on it --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:903229445] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>you can infer what you want, but it seemed with the "everyone is staring" line, Ellie's friend is the type to draw attention, as evidenced by people paying attention to her and dude she was dancing with, and Ellie being the kind of person who doesn't want that kinda attention so much plus we don't know how homosexually is seen in their society, because even though we've seen gay characters in the games, no one has commented on it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 06/14/18 8:50:43 AM #26:	If a zombie game forced any kind of romance narrative and it became the main talking point, I would hate it. --- 0 Post Topic http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:903229453] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>If a zombie game forced any kind of romance narrative and it became the main talking point, I would hate it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 8:51:11 AM #27:	scar the 1 posted... BatmanWTtP posted... The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind. It sounds like you're saying that her sexual orientation and people's reaction to it is a part of the story? That's the problem, her sexual orientation isn't part of the story. It shouldn't matter if she's a lesbian or not. The problem is that she no longer gay because she's gay, she's now gay so it can be used for marketing. Let's assume that her girlfriend dies and the story is about revenge. There are two ways to market this. Our main character's girlfriend is murdered and our main character sets out for revenge. Or Our gay main character's gay girlfriend is murdered and our gay main character sets out for revenge. Her being gay doesn't matter to the overall story, it's being used as nothing but a selling point. --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903229473] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind.</quote> It sounds like you're saying that her sexual orientation and people's reaction to it is a part of the story?</quote> That's the problem, her sexual orientation isn't part of the story. It shouldn't matter if she's a lesbian or not. The problem is that she no longer gay because she's gay, she's now gay so it can be used for marketing. Let's assume that her girlfriend dies and the story is about revenge. There are two ways to market this. Our main character's girlfriend is murdered and our main character sets out for revenge. Or Our gay main character's gay girlfriend is murdered and our gay main character sets out for revenge. Her being gay doesn't matter to the overall story, it's being used as nothing but a selling point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 06/14/18 8:53:02 AM #28:	BatmanWTtP posted... If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. This. If anyone ITT can show me one other E3 trailer where they ever spent 10+ seconds focusing on a straight couple making out, I'll never complain about it again. <cite>Vertania posted [p:903229541] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is.</quote> This. If anyone ITT can show me one other E3 trailer where they ever spent 10+ seconds focusing on a straight couple making out, I'll never complain about it again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 06/14/18 8:53:45 AM #29:	Jfc the Internet is insane Were talking about a Naughty Dog game, practically an interactive movie A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story Its really not the end of the world You guys will live --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:903229572] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>Jfc the Internet is insane Were talking about a Naughty Dog game, practically an interactive movie A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story Its really not the end of the world You guys will live</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 8:55:48 AM #30:	Mr_Biscuit posted... A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story That's the problem. In LoU she was a character who happened to be gay. Now her character is that she's gay. --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903229655] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story </quote> That's the problem. In LoU she was a character who happened to be gay. Now her character is that she's gay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 06/14/18 8:56:54 AM #31:	BatmanWTtP posted... Our man character's girlfriend is murdered and our main character sets out for revenge. Or Our gay main character's gay girlfriend is murdered and our gay main character sets out for revenge. Dont you mean, gay revenge? --- 0 Post Topic http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:903229687] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>Our man character's girlfriend is murdered and our main character sets out for revenge. Or Our gay main character's gay girlfriend is murdered and our gay main character sets out for revenge. </quote> Dont you mean, gay revenge?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiggy101011 06/14/18 8:58:19 AM #32:	The problem i have with the trailer is not the kiss, its the fact that we have had 3 trailers now and only the first one has gotten me hyped. This should be the game of this generation as the first one was phenomenal and yet the last 2 trailers have left me underwhelmed. --- Gamertag: F1RE v2 PSN ID: F1REx Man got me a 9 and she sexy. <cite>Jiggy101011 posted [p:903229761] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>The problem i have with the trailer is not the kiss, its the fact that we have had 3 trailers now and only the first one has gotten me hyped. This should be the game of this generation as the first one was phenomenal and yet the last 2 trailers have left me underwhelmed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 06/14/18 9:00:34 AM #33:	BatmanWTtP posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story That's the problem. In LoU she was a character who happened to be gay. Now her character is that she's gay. You are concluding that entirely because youre triggered by one scene featuring a girlfriend out of three trailers --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:903229844] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story </quote> That's the problem. In LoU she was a character who happened to be gay. Now her character is that she's gay.</quote> You are concluding that entirely because youre triggered by one scene featuring a girlfriend out of three trailers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 06/14/18 9:05:33 AM #34:	I think if we want LGBT acceptance in video games and movies, we need it to be a normal part of it, not a huge focus. Think Moonlight. That movie wasn't in your face with the homosexuality, the focal point was his coming of age and him being different from everyone around him, he just happened to be gay. Or even the woman in Mindhunter (the netflix show). She's a lesbian, but you might not even notice, because they don't make a big deal about it. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:903230033] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>I think if we want LGBT acceptance in video games and movies, we need it to be a normal part of it, not a huge focus. Think Moonlight. That movie wasn't in your face with the homosexuality, the focal point was his coming of age and him being different from everyone around him, he just happened to be gay. Or even the woman in Mindhunter (the netflix show). She's a lesbian, but you might not even notice, because they don't make a big deal about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 9:08:28 AM #35:	Mr_Biscuit posted... BatmanWTtP posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story That's the problem. In LoU she was a character who happened to be gay. Now her character is that she's gay. You are concluding that entirely because youre triggered by one scene featuring a girlfriend out of three trailers The scene isn't "featuring" a girlfriend. The scene is built around the girlfriend but doesn't contribute to the story in the slightest. The plot of the trailer is Ellie goes to a dance and has a flashback/flash forward to an intense fight before returning to the moment of peace. The way it's played out is Ellie goes to dance and gets hit on by a guy so her girlfriend can show up with the twist that they're lesbian. Then they dance and everyone is staring because they're lesbian. Then Elie flashes and we end the scene with the kiss. There is no reason for the male at the beginning to exist other than for the "twist", there is no reason for half the conversation to exist except to draw attention to them being lesbians. None of that matters to the story or plot of the trailer. It's only there so they can parade around a gay character rather than telling a story with a character who happens to be gay. --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903230138] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story </quote> That's the problem. In LoU she was a character who happened to be gay. Now her character is that she's gay.</quote> You are concluding that entirely because youre triggered by one scene featuring a girlfriend out of three trailers</quote> The scene isn't "featuring" a girlfriend. The scene is built around the girlfriend but doesn't contribute to the story in the slightest. The plot of the trailer is Ellie goes to a dance and has a flashback/flash forward to an intense fight before returning to the moment of peace. The way it's played out is Ellie goes to dance and gets hit on by a guy so her girlfriend can show up with the twist that they're lesbian. Then they dance and everyone is staring because they're lesbian. Then Elie flashes and we end the scene with the kiss. There is no reason for the male at the beginning to exist other than for the "twist", there is no reason for half the conversation to exist except to draw attention to them being lesbians. None of that matters to the story or plot of the trailer. It's only there so they can parade around a gay character rather than telling a story with a character who happens to be gay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 06/14/18 9:10:32 AM #36:	I think the kiss should be the cover art for the game. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:903230212] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>I think the kiss should be the cover art for the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 06/14/18 9:13:20 AM #37:	How thick is the beard on TCs neck holy shit. Imagine being this triggered and devoted to finding some progressive, pro gay boogeyman in a fucking video game trailer lmfaoooo --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:903230326] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>How thick is the beard on TCs neck holy shit. Imagine being this triggered and devoted to finding some progressive, pro gay boogeyman in a fucking video game trailer lmfaoooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 06/14/18 9:14:04 AM #38:	It bothers me that this is a subject people find worth discussing at length. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:903230360] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>It bothers me that this is a subject people find worth discussing at length.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 9:16:25 AM #39:	FrisbeeDude posted... How thick is the beard on TCs neck holy shit. Imagine being this triggered and devoted to finding some progressive, pro gay boogeyman in a fucking video game trailer lmfaoooo It's not a boogeyman when the director of the game sees diversity as a pillar of gaming https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-dev-says-character-diversity-just-as-imp/1100-6441800/ --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903230482] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>How thick is the beard on TCs neck holy shit. Imagine being this triggered and devoted to finding some progressive, pro gay boogeyman in a fucking video game trailer lmfaoooo</quote> It's not a boogeyman when the director of the game sees diversity as a pillar of gaming https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-dev-says-character-diversity-just-as-imp/1100-6441800/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 06/14/18 9:18:08 AM #40:	BatmanWTtP posted... FrisbeeDude posted... How thick is the beard on TCs neck holy shit. Imagine being this triggered and devoted to finding some progressive, pro gay boogeyman in a fucking video game trailer lmfaoooo It's not a boogeyman when the director of the game sees diversity as a pillar of gaming https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-dev-says-character-diversity-just-as-imp/1100-6441800/ Oh noooooooo --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:903230560] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>How thick is the beard on TCs neck holy shit. Imagine being this triggered and devoted to finding some progressive, pro gay boogeyman in a fucking video game trailer lmfaoooo</quote> It's not a boogeyman when the director of the game sees diversity as a pillar of gaming https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-dev-says-character-diversity-just-as-imp/1100-6441800/</quote> Oh noooooooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 9:21:46 AM #41:	Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse, yet the selling point of the game right now isn't the game play, or the story itself, the selling point and focus of the marketing is "Ellie is gay, look how gay she is". --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903230743] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse, yet the selling point of the game right now isn't the game play, or the story itself, the selling point and focus of the marketing is "Ellie is gay, look how gay she is".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 06/14/18 9:25:49 AM #42:	BatmanWTtP posted... Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse This is where you are at least partially wrong TLOU is a character game. Its about Joel and Ellie, who they are as people, their traumas, their development, their relationship. Hell, you even fight more humans than clickers. The zombie game is basically the setting, the backdrop. People complained about that a long time before the kiss was a thing, but thats what TLOU is. Its a Walking Dead type story about humans coping with tragedies and growing up in this world more than it is about zombies. Exploring Ellies coming of age is EXACTLY what Id expect a sequel to address. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:903230952] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse</quote> This is where you are at least partially wrong TLOU is a character game. Its about Joel and Ellie, who they are as people, their traumas, their development, their relationship. Hell, you even fight more humans than clickers. The zombie game is basically the setting, the backdrop. People complained about that a long time before the kiss was a thing, but thats what TLOU is. Its a Walking Dead type story about humans coping with tragedies and growing up in this world more than it is about zombies. Exploring Ellies coming of age is EXACTLY what Id expect a sequel to address.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 06/14/18 9:29:21 AM #43:	Yeah, but the throat slit is perfectly fine. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:903231116] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but the throat slit is perfectly fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 06/14/18 9:29:36 AM #44:	BatmanWTtP posted... That's the problem, her sexual orientation isn't part of the story. It shouldn't matter if she's a lesbian or not. The problem is that she no longer gay because she's gay, she's now gay so it can be used for marketing. Let's assume that her girlfriend dies and the story is about revenge. There are two ways to market this. Our main character's girlfriend is murdered and our main character sets out for revenge. Or Our gay main character's gay girlfriend is murdered and our gay main character sets out for revenge. Her being gay doesn't matter to the overall story, it's being used as nothing but a selling point. So, the scene in the trailer, is it from the game or not? Because it seems like their dancing and kissing drew attention from the people at the dance. Is that not part of the story? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:903231130] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>That's the problem, her sexual orientation isn't part of the story. It shouldn't matter if she's a lesbian or not. The problem is that she no longer gay because she's gay, she's now gay so it can be used for marketing. Let's assume that her girlfriend dies and the story is about revenge. There are two ways to market this. Our main character's girlfriend is murdered and our main character sets out for revenge. Or Our gay main character's gay girlfriend is murdered and our gay main character sets out for revenge. Her being gay doesn't matter to the overall story, it's being used as nothing but a selling point.</quote> So, the scene in the trailer, is it from the game or not? Because it seems like their dancing and kissing drew attention from the people at the dance. Is that not part of the story?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 9:41:09 AM #45:	Mr_Biscuit posted... BatmanWTtP posted... Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse This is where you are at least partially wrong TLOU is a character game. Its about Joel and Ellie, who they are as people, their traumas, their development, their relationship. Hell, you even fight more humans than clickers. The zombie game is basically the setting, the backdrop. People complained about that a long time before the kiss was a thing, but thats what TLOU is. Its a Walking Dead type story about humans coping with tragedies and growing up in this world more than it is about zombies. Exploring Ellies coming of age is EXACTLY what Id expect a sequel to address. That's fine, but Ellie being a character who happens to be gay is not the same as Ellie's defining character trait being that she's gay. The problem is that that's what the trailer does. It doesn't show a character who happens to be gay, it just goes "Ellie's gay, look at her be gay" scar the 1 posted... So, the scene in the trailer, is it from the game or not? Because it seems like their dancing and kissing drew attention from the people at the dance. Is that not part of the story? In that trailer, what did it matter that Ellie was gay? The trailer plot was "Ellie is at a dance, she has a moment of peace, we're shown an intense moment, and then we return to the peaceful moment." Why was such a large focus placed on Ellie's sexual orientation. If the dance scene had opened up with Ellie and her girlfriend dancing or the "everyone is staring" part was cut this wouldn't be an issue. The problem comes with Ellie's sexual orientation being used as a selling point and the focus of trailer where it is irrelevant to the overall plot of the trailer. --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903231740] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote>Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse</quote> This is where you are at least partially wrong TLOU is a character game. Its about Joel and Ellie, who they are as people, their traumas, their development, their relationship. Hell, you even fight more humans than clickers. The zombie game is basically the setting, the backdrop. People complained about that a long time before the kiss was a thing, but thats what TLOU is. Its a Walking Dead type story about humans coping with tragedies and growing up in this world more than it is about zombies. Exploring Ellies coming of age is EXACTLY what Id expect a sequel to address.</quote> That's fine, but Ellie being a character who happens to be gay is not the same as Ellie's defining character trait being that she's gay. The problem is that that's what the trailer does. It doesn't show a character who happens to be gay, it just goes "Ellie's gay, look at her be gay" <cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>So, the scene in the trailer, is it from the game or not? Because it seems like their dancing and kissing drew attention from the people at the dance. Is that not part of the story?</quote> In that trailer, what did it matter that Ellie was gay? The trailer plot was "Ellie is at a dance, she has a moment of peace, we're shown an intense moment, and then we return to the peaceful moment." Why was such a large focus placed on Ellie's sexual orientation. If the dance scene had opened up with Ellie and her girlfriend dancing or the "everyone is staring" part was cut this wouldn't be an issue. The problem comes with Ellie's sexual orientation being used as a selling point and the focus of trailer where it is irrelevant to the overall plot of the trailer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 06/14/18 9:41:54 AM #46:	"I'd complain too if there was a straight couple kissing!" Are you sure? --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:903231775] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>"I'd complain too if there was a straight couple kissing!" Are you sure?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/14/18 9:42:31 AM #47:	Why do you have to take a lesbian relationship as a statement? --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:903231813] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>Why do you have to take a lesbian relationship as a statement?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 06/14/18 9:46:09 AM #48:	Veggeta_MAX posted... "I'd complain too if there was a straight couple kissing!" Are you sure? Once again, Ellie being gay is essential to the way the trailer was laid out yet her being gay had nothing to do with the plot of the trailer. If you swap out Ellie's girlfriend for a man then it becomes padded with even more unnecessary fluff. --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:903232001] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>"I'd complain too if there was a straight couple kissing!" Are you sure?</quote> Once again, Ellie being gay is essential to the way the trailer was laid out yet her being gay had nothing to do with the plot of the trailer. If you swap out Ellie's girlfriend for a man then it becomes padded with even more unnecessary fluff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 06/14/18 9:47:39 AM #49:	Sounds like some confirmation bias bullshit to me. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:903232091] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like some confirmation bias bullshit to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/14/18 9:48:55 AM #50:	BatmanWTtP posted... Veggeta_MAX posted... "I'd complain too if there was a straight couple kissing!" Are you sure? Once again, Ellie being gay is essential to the way the trailer was laid out yet her being gay had nothing to do with the plot of the trailer. If you swap out Ellie's girlfriend for a man then it becomes padded with even more unnecessary fluff. Maybe the romance is a centre plot in the game? Do you even know? You actually don't, because we don't know what the plot is yet. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:903232163] in It bothers... [t:76712142]...</cite> <quote><cite>BatmanWTtP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>"I'd complain too if there was a straight couple kissing!" Are you sure?</quote> Once again, Ellie being gay is essential to the way the trailer was laid out yet her being gay had nothing to do with the plot of the trailer. If you swap out Ellie's girlfriend for a man then it becomes padded with even more unnecessary fluff.</quote> Maybe the romance is a centre plot in the game? Do you even know? You actually don't, because we don't know what the plot is yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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