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Bluebomber182 06/15/18 3:36:37 PM #1: |
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-rudy-muller-pardons-trump-manafort-20180615-story.html
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_BIueMonk 06/15/18 3:37:22 PM #2: |
for what?! he hasn't been sentenced! he was arrested, released on bail, broke the law AGAIN (witness tampering) and put in jail!
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Antifar 06/15/18 3:38:06 PM #3: |
I can't tell who in the administration thinks Rudy is helping or why.
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creativerealms 06/15/18 3:38:14 PM #4: |
That makes Trump look innocent.
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frozenshock 06/15/18 3:38:56 PM #5: |
_BIueMonk posted...
for what?! he hasn't been sentenced! he was arrested, released on bail, broke the law AGAIN (witness tampering) and put in jail! Trump probably believes he can issue pre-emptive pardons. Like, a pardon for any and all crimes he may be charged with in the future. He could potentially issue a pre-emptive pardon to himself, his family, and every republican member of congress. Maybe he could also threaten to revoke the pardon to any congressman who votes against him on a bill. This might help him get some leverage. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BJ-blazkowics 06/15/18 3:39:02 PM #6: |
That'd be text book obstruction of justice. Costitutional crisis here we go!
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Darkman124 06/15/18 3:40:25 PM #7: |
When the whole thing is over, things might get cleaned up with some presidential pardons, the former New York mayor told the Daily News. would not be pre-emptive; clearly is a message to manafort: don't make a deal and we'll cover your ass --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Letron_James 06/15/18 3:43:13 PM #8: |
If im not mistaken he cannot be pardoned from both a state crime and a federal crime so...
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frozenshock 06/15/18 3:44:39 PM #9: |
Letron_James posted...
If im not mistaken he cannot be pardoned from both a state crime and a federal crime so... Meh. Details. Just wait until Ginsburg retires from the Supreme Court and Trump will put in a judge who can fix that little thing. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 06/15/18 3:45:19 PM #10: |
Antifar posted...
I can't tell who in the administration thinks Rudy is helping or why. Trump does because they're both equal levels of fucking moron. Letron_James posted... If im not mistaken he cannot be pardoned from both a state crime and a federal crime so... Presidential pardons can't cover state prosecutions, no. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 06/15/18 3:51:10 PM #11: |
frozenshock posted...
Meh. Details. Just wait until Ginsburg retires from the Supreme Court and Trump will put in a judge who can fix that little thing. I do not believe the Supreme Court can rewrite the Constitution. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 06/15/18 3:56:20 PM #12: |
BLAKUboy posted...
frozenshock posted...Meh. Details. Just wait until Ginsburg retires from the Supreme Court and Trump will put in a judge who can fix that little thing. Who's gonna stop them? You can't exactly appeal their decisions to the Privy Council of the United Kingdom. I mean you should, but unfortunately it's not possible. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 06/15/18 3:57:18 PM #13: |
frozenshock posted...
_BIueMonk posted...for what?! he hasn't been sentenced! he was arrested, released on bail, broke the law AGAIN (witness tampering) and put in jail! I'm no lawyer, but the pardon power is pretty far reaching. Ford pardoned Nixon before he was charged with any crimes. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 06/15/18 4:03:57 PM #14: |
Hornezz posted...
I'm no lawyer, but the pardon power is pretty far reaching. Ford pardoned Nixon before he was charged with any crimes. It was controversial but it's not like if there was court decision confirming that it was legal. Congress decided to drop the impeachment --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BJ-blazkowics 06/15/18 4:08:00 PM #15: |
BLAKUboy posted...
frozenshock posted...Meh. Details. Just wait until Ginsburg retires from the Supreme Court and Trump will put in a judge who can fix that little thing. No, but assholes like Gorsuch can "interpret it" to fit his bigoted views. He already tried to do it regarding the right to privacy. His argument is "when the founders wrote the constitution email and phones didn't exist, so the constitution didn't mean those, therefore, you got no right for privacy". The conservatives will come up with a reasoning like "the founders didn't envision black, hispanic and middle eastern people when they wrote the term "people" and "rights", therefore they got no rights" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Polycosm 06/15/18 4:12:45 PM #16: |
I dont understand the justification for putting him in jail, Giuliani, 74, said. You put a guy in jail if hes trying to kill witnesses, not just talking to witnesses. What in the literal fuck. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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davyheinz 06/15/18 4:13:52 PM #17: |
Polycosm posted...
I dont understand the justification for putting him in jail, Giuliani, 74, said. You put a guy in jail if hes trying to kill witnesses, not just talking to witnesses. Giuliani has the worst defenses, so fucking funny --- Currently playing: Strider, Resident Evil 6, Jet Force Gemini, Psychonauts, Legend of Zelda: WindWaker HD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 06/15/18 4:14:50 PM #18: |
BJ-blazkowics posted...
No, but assholes like Gorsuch can "interpret it" to fit his bigoted views. He already tried to do it regarding the right to privacy. AK-47s didn't exist either when the constitution was written. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BJ-blazkowics 06/15/18 4:15:40 PM #19: |
frozenshock posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...No, but assholes like Gorsuch can "interpret it" to fit his bigoted views. He already tried to do it regarding the right to privacy. I know, their "textualist" bullshit is so shallow. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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davyheinz 06/15/18 4:17:08 PM #20: |
BJ-blazkowics posted...
frozenshock posted...BJ-blazkowics posted...No, but assholes like Gorsuch can "interpret it" to fit his bigoted views. He already tried to do it regarding the right to privacy. And it demonstrates how outdated the Constitution is. For something people love too much to change, they sure love to vaguely interpret it and refuse to acknowledge faults in it. --- Currently playing: Strider, Resident Evil 6, Jet Force Gemini, Psychonauts, Legend of Zelda: WindWaker HD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BJ-blazkowics 06/15/18 4:54:40 PM #21: |
davyheinz posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...frozenshock posted...BJ-blazkowics posted...No, but assholes like Gorsuch can "interpret it" to fit his bigoted views. He already tried to do it regarding the right to privacy. It's fairly outdated, sure. But we could never come up with a better document nowadays. The founding fathers loved their country and were non-partisan. Now you'd have democrats trying to make an amendment like "male votes should count 1/2 to make up for the patriarchy" and republicans making amendments like "BTW people of color aren't real people", and that is why touching the constitution in this day and age would be dangerous and difficult. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 06/15/18 4:56:41 PM #22: |
at the very least trump can take solace in the fact that after his shitty presidency there is going to be quite a bit of money that could be made if someone were to make a tv series of trump trying to do shitty slimy stuff and giuliani stumbling in like mr magoo and screwing everything up
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Antifar 06/15/18 5:04:44 PM #24: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Its pathetic watching tough on crime politicians like Trump and Giuliani cry about the law when it hurts their buddies. It was never about crime. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 06/15/18 5:06:01 PM #25: |
I kind of hope that Manafort is convicted and that Trump does pardon him. The left would have a meltdown of epic proportions.
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JE19426 06/15/18 5:09:00 PM #26: |
frozenshock posted...
Who's gonna stop them? You can't exactly appeal their decisions to the Privy Council of the United Kingdom. I mean you should, but unfortunately it's not possible. The states that would refuse to release them. Hopefully. It was controversial but it's not like if there was court decision confirming that it was legal. Congress decided to drop the impeachment Congress dropping the impeachment had nothing to do with Nixon getting pardoned. Impeachment only strips the person of their position, since Nixon was no longer a President they couldn't stripe that from him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 06/15/18 5:09:29 PM #27: |
I genuinely think that Trump could get better legal advice by asking a random person off the street than by consulting Giuliani. It's like he got his law degree by mailing in tabs from cereal boxes
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Hexenherz 06/15/18 5:10:18 PM #29: |
Antifar posted...
I can't tell who in the administration thinks Rudy is helping or why. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dont-be-fooled-giuliani-has-a-strategy/2018/05/07/9795eb06-5227-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html ?noredirect=on&utm_term=.149bd98df5fc --- ESO: @Ultima_Vyse RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/99 FISH/ 85/99 Cooking ... Copied to Clipboard!
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muchdran 06/15/18 5:14:39 PM #30: |
_BIueMonk posted...
for what?! he hasn't been sentenced! he was arrested, released on bail, broke the law AGAIN (witness tampering) and put in jail! And ignored --- If liberals didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have standards at all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 06/15/18 5:16:14 PM #31: |
Polycosm posted...
I dont understand the justification for putting him in jail, Giuliani, 74, said. You put a guy in jail if hes trying to kill witnesses, not just talking to witnesses. "he was just making sure they had their stories straight. what's wrong with that?" --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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