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billcom6
06/20/18 1:06:56 PM
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Thank You Mr. President!

#MAGA
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On_The_Edge
06/20/18 1:07:26 PM
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It's... not his policy.
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BLAKUboy
06/20/18 1:11:37 PM
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Especially the ones that were defending the policy and spreading the lie that Trump couldn't do anything to stop it. Self-awareness is sadly not their strong suit.
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metralo
06/20/18 1:12:34 PM
#4:


On_The_Edge posted...
It's... not his policy.


stop
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Questionmarktarius
06/20/18 1:13:55 PM
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An even bigger shitstorm will emerge soon, when some random kid is raped to death in "family" detention.
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Uncle Choad
06/20/18 1:16:24 PM
#7:


metralo posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
It's... not his policy.


stop


la la la la Obama and the Dems did nothing wrong la la
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Uncle Choad
06/20/18 1:17:19 PM
#8:


shockthemonkey posted...
Yep, after defending it as necessary and yelling about how this is all the parents fault and how much they deserve it, theyre going to slurp up Trumps bullshit and treat him like a fucking hero for ending something he created.


"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

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50Blessings
06/20/18 1:17:20 PM
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And the left will condemn him. What's new?
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hockeybub89
06/20/18 1:17:43 PM
#10:


Uncle Choad posted...
metralo posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
It's... not his policy.


stop


la la la la Obama and the Dems did nothing wrong la la

I mean, Obama signed off on a lot of drone strikes, but what does that have to do with this situation?
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voldothegr8
06/20/18 1:17:47 PM
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metralo posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
It's... not his policy.


stop

Stop what, Trump literally had nothing to do with the creation of this law.
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A_Good_Boy
06/20/18 1:18:50 PM
#12:


Uncle Choad posted...
metralo posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
It's... not his policy.


stop


la la la la Obama and the Dems did nothing wrong la la

https://apnews.com/26b88518310f47018b724e200b28e88f

In 2008, President George W. Bush focused on the problem of minors crossing the border without their parents and signed a law unanimously passed by Congress that called for such "unaccompanied minors" to be released into the "least restrictive setting."

By 2014, President Barack Obama was facing an influx of both children traveling alone and families as a result of violence in Central America. At one point, his administration tried housing the families in special detention centers. But after a federal judge in California ruled the arrangement violated a long-standing agreement barring kids from jail-like settings, even with their parents, the government began releasing families in to the U.S. pending notification of their next court date.

Fast forward to Trump, who campaigned on building a border wall, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who derided these longtime U.S. immigration practices as "catch and release." Trump and Sessions insisted that people exploit the system, even traveling with children to ensure they aren't jailed and slipping away before their court dates.

SO DID U.S. POLICY CHANGE OR NOT?

Yes. While Trump's new immigration policy doesn't call for families to be separated, as pointed out by Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the policy makes separations inevitable.

Following Trump's election, then-Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly now Trump's White House chief of staff floated the idea of separating families as a way to discourage illegal border crossings. But much of the administration's focus went into a travel ban aimed at Muslim-majority nations.

By this April, Sessions announced a plan: The U.S. would have "zero tolerance" for illegal crossings. If a person doesn't arrive at an appropriate port of entry to claim asylum, the crossing is deemed illegal and prosecuted even if the person does not have a criminal history. With the adult detained and facing prosecution, any minors accompanying them are taken away.



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catboy0_0
06/20/18 1:19:54 PM
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good boy
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Abyssea
06/20/18 1:21:58 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
metralo posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
It's... not his policy.


stop

Stop what, Trump literally had nothing to do with the creation of this law.


He just picked a real opportune time to start enforcing it. What was once a rare occurrence happened over 2000 times in a very short period time. Should be obvious to you that he was just doing it for political leverage. He wanted to ransom off the kids to get his wall built, but it went bust when his own party started to question the morality of it.

Nice try Mr. Trump. If it wasn't for those pesky kids you would have gotten away with it too! Better luck next time.
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BLAKUboy
06/20/18 1:24:23 PM
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There is no law forcing them to separate families.
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scorpion41
06/20/18 1:25:11 PM
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Its literally not his policy. Weve been doing this since the Clinton administration. But, Trump haters are so caught up in trying to find something to make him look worse than he really is that theyll cry foul when a law is enforced under his administration. Guess theyll blame him for the Patriot Act next...
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LightHawKnight
06/20/18 1:25:12 PM
#18:


On_The_Edge posted...
It's... not his policy.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/
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hockeybub89
06/20/18 1:25:32 PM
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If Obama created this policy, wouldn't that mean that Trumpeteers have been praising Obama?
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Uncle Choad
06/20/18 1:26:01 PM
#20:


shockthemonkey posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Yep, after defending it as necessary and yelling about how this is all the parents fault and how much they deserve it, theyre going to slurp up Trumps bullshit and treat him like a fucking hero for ending something he created.


"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

- Abe Lincoln

Hey look, one of the people who has been defending the shitty Trump policy.


I'm not sure how you still don't understand that Trump has nothing to do with this law. He's enforcing it (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

I'm glad I have a leader who isn't afraid of backlash by following a law (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).
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A_Good_Boy
06/20/18 1:26:18 PM
#21:


scorpion41 posted...
Its literally not his policy. Weve been doing this since the Clinton administration. But, Trump haters are so caught up in trying to find something to make him look worse than he really is that theyll cry foul when a law is enforced under his administration. Guess theyll blame him for the Patriot Act next...

https://apnews.com/26b88518310f47018b724e200b28e88f

In 2008, President George W. Bush focused on the problem of minors crossing the border without their parents and signed a law unanimously passed by Congress that called for such "unaccompanied minors" to be released into the "least restrictive setting."

By 2014, President Barack Obama was facing an influx of both children traveling alone and families as a result of violence in Central America. At one point, his administration tried housing the families in special detention centers. But after a federal judge in California ruled the arrangement violated a long-standing agreement barring kids from jail-like settings, even with their parents, the government began releasing families in to the U.S. pending notification of their next court date.

Fast forward to Trump, who campaigned on building a border wall, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who derided these longtime U.S. immigration practices as "catch and release." Trump and Sessions insisted that people exploit the system, even traveling with children to ensure they aren't jailed and slipping away before their court dates.

SO DID U.S. POLICY CHANGE OR NOT?

Yes. While Trump's new immigration policy doesn't call for families to be separated, as pointed out by Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the policy makes separations inevitable.

Following Trump's election, then-Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly now Trump's White House chief of staff floated the idea of separating families as a way to discourage illegal border crossings. But much of the administration's focus went into a travel ban aimed at Muslim-majority nations.

By this April, Sessions announced a plan: The U.S. would have "zero tolerance" for illegal crossings. If a person doesn't arrive at an appropriate port of entry to claim asylum, the crossing is deemed illegal and prosecuted even if the person does not have a criminal history. With the adult detained and facing prosecution, any minors accompanying them are taken away.


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Uncle Choad
06/20/18 1:26:54 PM
#22:


hockeybub89 posted...
If Obama created this policy, wouldn't that mean that Trumpeteers have been praising Obama?


I praise Obama for giving me more entertaining police videos to watch.
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hockeybub89
06/20/18 1:27:04 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Its literally not his policy. Weve been doing this since the Clinton administration. But, Trump haters are so caught up in trying to find something to make him look worse than he really is that theyll cry foul when a law is enforced under his administration. Guess theyll blame him for the Patriot Act next...

If he adds something to it, absolutely.
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ultimate reaver
06/20/18 1:29:01 PM
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Anyone with a brain knows this was a gambit he was pulling to try to get Democrats to accept a corrective bill that would have wall funding as a rider. He was even ballsy enough to try to blame them for the entire situation, it just completely backfired because it was -that- vile.

Good on him for correcting a situation that he himself initiated. Fuck yes I'm going to give him shit for it still, because the only reason he did it was he had everyone including his wife breathing down his neck to make it stop
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catboy0_0
06/20/18 1:30:03 PM
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wait he stopped? it's over?
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hockeybub89
06/20/18 1:30:15 PM
#27:


Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Yep, after defending it as necessary and yelling about how this is all the parents fault and how much they deserve it, theyre going to slurp up Trumps bullshit and treat him like a fucking hero for ending something he created.


"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

- Abe Lincoln

Hey look, one of the people who has been defending the shitty Trump policy.


I'm not sure how you still don't understand that Trump has nothing to do with this law. He's enforcing it (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

I'm glad I have a leader who isn't afraid of backlash by following a law (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

But I thought Trump supporters liked this law, so why would they support him repealing it?
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BLAKUboy
06/20/18 1:31:46 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
wait he stopped? it's over?

No, he's claiming he's going to sign "something". We still don't know when or what.
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Mr_Biscuit
06/20/18 1:32:01 PM
#29:


shockthemonkey posted...
Yep, after defending it as necessary and yelling about how this is all the parents fault and how much they deserve it, theyre going to slurp up Trumps bullshit and treat him like a fucking hero for ending something he created.

Yup.

Hes doing the right thing (FINALLY) by ending it, but I can already smell the wow thank Christ that heroic Donald ended this barbaric liberal policy posts coming from the people who have spent the last week yelling about this being the only option.
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catboy0_0
06/20/18 1:32:26 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
wait he stopped? it's over?

No, he's claiming he's going to sign "something". We still don't know when or what.

maybe it'll be more effective than what was signed when he met kim
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Abyssea
06/20/18 1:32:28 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Anyone with a brain knows this was a gambit he was pulling to try to get Democrats to accept a corrective bill that would have wall funding as a rider. He was even ballsy enough to try to blame them for the entire situation, it just completely backfired because it was -that- vile.

Good on him for correcting a situation that he himself initiated. Fuck yes I'm going to give him shit for it still, because the only reason he did it was he had everyone including his wife breathing down his neck to make it stop


Just wonder what he's going to try next time. Is he gonna have Mike Pence drive around a bus full of immigrant kids that is set to explode if the speed drops below 60 mile an hour? And he'll only give out the disarm code if parliament agrees to fund his wall?
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Uncle Choad
06/20/18 1:32:39 PM
#32:


hockeybub89 posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Yep, after defending it as necessary and yelling about how this is all the parents fault and how much they deserve it, theyre going to slurp up Trumps bullshit and treat him like a fucking hero for ending something he created.


"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

- Abe Lincoln

Hey look, one of the people who has been defending the shitty Trump policy.


I'm not sure how you still don't understand that Trump has nothing to do with this law. He's enforcing it (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

I'm glad I have a leader who isn't afraid of backlash by following a law (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

But I thought Trump supporters liked this law, so why would they support him repealing it?


I don't' have an opinion on laws. I just support the idea of enforcement.

INTEGRITY.
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Sir Will
06/20/18 1:33:18 PM
#33:


scorpion41 posted...
Its literally not his policy

It literally is.
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dave_is_slick
06/20/18 1:36:25 PM
#34:


hockeybub89 posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Yep, after defending it as necessary and yelling about how this is all the parents fault and how much they deserve it, theyre going to slurp up Trumps bullshit and treat him like a fucking hero for ending something he created.


"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

- Abe Lincoln

Hey look, one of the people who has been defending the shitty Trump policy.


I'm not sure how you still don't understand that Trump has nothing to do with this law. He's enforcing it (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

I'm glad I have a leader who isn't afraid of backlash by following a law (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

But I thought Trump supporters liked this law, so why would they support him repealing it?

Because every single one of them is a fucking idiot.
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Mr_Biscuit
06/20/18 1:37:46 PM
#35:


Uncle Choad posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Yep, after defending it as necessary and yelling about how this is all the parents fault and how much they deserve it, theyre going to slurp up Trumps bullshit and treat him like a fucking hero for ending something he created.


"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

- Abe Lincoln

Hey look, one of the people who has been defending the shitty Trump policy.


I'm not sure how you still don't understand that Trump has nothing to do with this law. He's enforcing it (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

I'm glad I have a leader who isn't afraid of backlash by following a law (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

But I thought Trump supporters liked this law, so why would they support him repealing it?


I don't' have an opinion on laws. I just support the idea of enforcement.

INTEGRITY.

So you were on board with slaves, prohibition, women not being able to vote, etc, yeah?

You have no opinions on laws, after all, just want current ones enforced no matter what.
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Questionmarktarius
06/20/18 1:39:28 PM
#36:


Sir Will posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Its literally not his policy

It literally is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._Flores

The Trump administration is behaving like a 80s teen movie villian (usually played by Robert Vaughn), using weird logical leaps and arcane combinations of rules to screw over the plucky teen hero.

Parents are arrested for crossing the border illegally.
Child is now "unaccompanied".
Child can't be held in "jail-like" settings, so it's moved to a 'ICE daycare' or something.

End the end, it's pretty much the same thing that happens when getting arrested for a DUI with kids in the car, give or take grandma picking up the kids from the police station.
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MrMimeTime
06/20/18 1:43:04 PM
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The left will complain about anything. You're getting what you want. Maybe you should count that as a win instead of shifting the narrative so you can find some way to complain about him. If I were Trump I'd never do what you guys want since you're all gonna complain either way.
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hockeybub89
06/20/18 1:43:25 PM
#38:


Uncle Choad posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Yep, after defending it as necessary and yelling about how this is all the parents fault and how much they deserve it, theyre going to slurp up Trumps bullshit and treat him like a fucking hero for ending something he created.


"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

- Abe Lincoln

Hey look, one of the people who has been defending the shitty Trump policy.


I'm not sure how you still don't understand that Trump has nothing to do with this law. He's enforcing it (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

I'm glad I have a leader who isn't afraid of backlash by following a law (as he should, because all laws should be enforced).

But I thought Trump supporters liked this law, so why would they support him repealing it?


I don't' have an opinion on laws. I just support the idea of enforcement.

INTEGRITY.

The next Democrat President makes it illegal to shitpost on the Internet? Your thoughts?
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billcom6
06/20/18 1:44:41 PM
#39:


MrMimeTime posted...
The left will complain about anything. You're getting what you want. Maybe you should count that as a win instead of shifting the narrative so you can find some way to complain about him. If I were Trump I'd never do what you guys want since you're all gonna complain either way.

But he is the BEST at MAKING DEALS!!!!
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voldothegr8
06/20/18 1:44:49 PM
#40:


hockeybub89 posted...
The next Democrat President makes it illegal to shitpost on the Internet? Your thoughts?

Impeach them for gross violation of the 1st?
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MrMimeTime
06/20/18 1:45:29 PM
#41:


billcom6 posted...
MrMimeTime posted...
The left will complain about anything. You're getting what you want. Maybe you should count that as a win instead of shifting the narrative so you can find some way to complain about him. If I were Trump I'd never do what you guys want since you're all gonna complain either way.

But he is the BEST at MAKING DEALS!!!!


That doesn't have anything to do with what I just said, but it was a nice little distraction.
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Mr_Biscuit
06/20/18 1:46:51 PM
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MrMimeTime posted...
The left will complain about anything. You're getting what you want. Maybe you should count that as a win instead of shifting the narrative so you can find some way to complain about him. If I were Trump I'd never do what you guys want since you're all gonna complain either way.

I literally just said hes doing the right thing, albeit taking his sweet fucking time. This topic is about the clowns who will flip flop to this suddenly having been bad.
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Mr_Biscuit
06/20/18 1:47:26 PM
#43:


voldothegr8 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
The next Democrat President makes it illegal to shitpost on the Internet? Your thoughts?

Impeach them for gross violation of the 1st?

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Hinakuluiau
06/20/18 1:47:40 PM
#44:


Questionmarktarius posted...
End the end, it's pretty much the same thing that happens when getting arrested for a DUI with kids in the car, give or take grandma picking up the kids from the police station.

Grandma picking up the kids from the police station is a huge point though. When a person commits a crime and their children are separated from them, the police don't throw them in a cell. They make arrangements for them to be picked up by family members.
Also, single parents have historically been able to effectively convince a judge to give them a lighter sentence with more parole so that they can take care of their children. Since all the crimes the illegal immigrants were guilty of are misdemeanors, they should be treated similarly.
This is without even getting into the whole problem of people following the letter of the law by seeking asylum and being ripped from their children in the process.

The whole situation didn't exist a month ago. When people say it's Trump's policy, they're not looking at the 2008 ruling that can be blamed on Bush or the 8 years of Obama that could have gotten rid of it, it's blaming Trump for going through with it now because he was using it as leverage against the democrats.
Since he's getting rid of it, it's even moreso his policy.
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MrMimeTime
06/20/18 1:47:46 PM
#45:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
MrMimeTime posted...
The left will complain about anything. You're getting what you want. Maybe you should count that as a win instead of shifting the narrative so you can find some way to complain about him. If I were Trump I'd never do what you guys want since you're all gonna complain either way.

I literally just said hes doing the right thing, albeit taking his sweet fucking time. This topic is about the clowns who will flip flop to this suddenly having been bad.


Who said my response was for you and you alone?
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FLUFFYGERM
06/20/18 1:48:15 PM
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who cares? as long as the madness ends
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Tmaster148
06/20/18 1:48:46 PM
#47:


Trump and his supporters just want to pat themselves on the back for being decent people.
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Mr_Biscuit
06/20/18 1:51:23 PM
#48:


MrMimeTime posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
MrMimeTime posted...
The left will complain about anything. You're getting what you want. Maybe you should count that as a win instead of shifting the narrative so you can find some way to complain about him. If I were Trump I'd never do what you guys want since you're all gonna complain either way.

I literally just said hes doing the right thing, albeit taking his sweet fucking time. This topic is about the clowns who will flip flop to this suddenly having been bad.


Who said my response was for you and you alone?

Who said the left boogeyman doesnt largely share my view?
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whitelytning
06/20/18 1:56:48 PM
#49:


MrMimeTime posted...
The left will complain about anything. You're getting what you want. Maybe you should count that as a win instead of shifting the narrative so you can find some way to complain about him. If I were Trump I'd never do what you guys want since you're all gonna complain either way.


The point of this thread isn't complaining about Trump, its to point out how spineless the people that blindly support him are. Instead of having principles and recognizing when something is wrong, no matter what the politics are, they supported the Trump admins original change in policy. They are now going to hypocritically support the reversal of it.

Its a pretty fair thing to point out and has nothing to do with Trump.
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