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Antifar 06/20/18 3:03:35 PM #1:	https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them dizzy, listless, obese and even incapacitated, according to legal filings that show immigrant children in U.S. custody subdued with powerful psychiatric drugs. Children held at Shiloh Treatment Center, a government contractor south of Houston that houses immigrant minors, described being held down and injected, according to the federal court filings. The lawsuit alleges that children were told they would not be released or see their parents unless they took medication and that they only were receiving vitamins. Parents and the children themselves told attorneys the drugs rendered them unable to walk, afraid of people and wanting to sleep constantly, according to affidavits filed April 23 in U.S. District Court in California. One mother said her child fell repeatedly, hitting her head, and ended up in a wheelchair. A child described trying to open a window and being hurled against a door by a Shiloh supervisor, who then choked her until she fainted. The supervisor told me I was going to get a medication injection to calm me down, the girl said. Two staff grabbed me, and the doctor gave me the injection despite my objection and left me there on the bed. Another child recounted being made to take pills in the morning, at noon and night. The child said the staff told me that some of the pills are vitamins because they think I need to gain weight. The vitamins changed about two times, and each time I feel different. Shiloh is among 71 companies that receive funds from the federal government to house and supervise immigrant children deemed unaccompanied minors. An investigation by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting found that nearly half of the $3.4 billion paid to those companies in the last four years went to homes with serious allegations of mistreating children. In nearly all cases reviewed by Reveal, the federal government continued contracts with the companies after serious allegations were raised. At Reveals request, forensic psychiatrist Mark. J. Mills assessed materials from 420 pages of childrens medical records and statements filed in California federal court this April. You dont have to be a rocket scientist here; it looks like theyre trying to control agitation and aggressive behavior with antipsychotic drugs, said Mills, who practices in the Washington, D.C., area and was an expert witness for a lawsuit that in 2008 stopped the federal government from forcibly administering antipsychotic drugs to deportees. You dont need to administer these kinds of drugs unless someone is plucking out their eyeball or some such. The facility should not use these drugs to control behavior. Thats not what antipsychotics should be used for. Thats like the old Soviet Union used to do. The records were filed in connection with an ongoing class-action status lawsuit alleging poor treatment of immigrant children in U.S. custody. An attorney representing the children said youth separated from their parents often become depressed, angry, anxious and, sometimes, unruly and that, in turn, encourages prescription of inappropriate medication. ... Shiloh already had a reputation for mistreating children. In December 2014, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Houston, called for Shiloh to be shut down, citing reports from the Houston Chronicle of physical violence, unreasonable and excessive use of physical restraints, administering emergency medications without notice to governmental authorities, and several deaths of minor children while in custody, she said in a statement. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:903639944] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ <quote>President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them dizzy, listless, obese and even incapacitated, according to legal filings that show immigrant children in U.S. custody subdued with powerful psychiatric drugs. Children held at Shiloh Treatment Center, a government contractor south of Houston that houses immigrant minors, described being held down and injected, according to the federal court filings. The lawsuit alleges that children were told they would not be released or see their parents unless they took medication and that they only were receiving vitamins. Parents and the children themselves told attorneys the drugs rendered them unable to walk, afraid of people and wanting to sleep constantly, according to affidavits filed April 23 in U.S. District Court in California. One mother said her child fell repeatedly, hitting her head, and ended up in a wheelchair. A child described trying to open a window and being hurled against a door by a Shiloh supervisor, who then choked her until she fainted. The supervisor told me I was going to get a medication injection to calm me down, the girl said. Two staff grabbed me, and the doctor gave me the injection despite my objection and left me there on the bed. Another child recounted being made to take pills in the morning, at noon and night. The child said the staff told me that some of the pills are vitamins because they think I need to gain weight. The vitamins changed about two times, and each time I feel different. Shiloh is among 71 companies that receive funds from the federal government to house and supervise immigrant children deemed unaccompanied minors. An investigation by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting found that nearly half of the $3.4 billion paid to those companies in the last four years went to homes with serious allegations of mistreating children. In nearly all cases reviewed by Reveal, the federal government continued contracts with the companies after serious allegations were raised. At Reveals request, forensic psychiatrist Mark. J. Mills assessed materials from 420 pages of childrens medical records and statements filed in California federal court this April. You dont have to be a rocket scientist here; it looks like theyre trying to control agitation and aggressive behavior with antipsychotic drugs, said Mills, who practices in the Washington, D.C., area and was an expert witness for a lawsuit that in 2008 stopped the federal government from forcibly administering antipsychotic drugs to deportees. You dont need to administer these kinds of drugs unless someone is plucking out their eyeball or some such. The facility should not use these drugs to control behavior. Thats not what antipsychotics should be used for. Thats like the old Soviet Union used to do. The records were filed in connection with an ongoing class-action status lawsuit alleging poor treatment of immigrant children in U.S. custody. An attorney representing the children said youth separated from their parents often become depressed, angry, anxious and, sometimes, unruly and that, in turn, encourages prescription of inappropriate medication. ... Shiloh already had a reputation for mistreating children. In December 2014, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Houston, called for Shiloh to be shut down, citing reports from the Houston Chronicle of physical violence, unreasonable and excessive use of physical restraints, administering emergency medications without notice to governmental authorities, and several deaths of minor children while in custody, she said in a statement. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 06/20/18 3:05:07 PM #2:	Antifar posted... creating a zombie army of children well, at least they're staying away from hyperbole <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:903640054] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>creating a zombie army of children</quote> well, at least they're staying away from hyperbole</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingGames 06/20/18 3:06:45 PM #3:	fake news --- https://my.mixtape.moe/whapui.webm <cite>FightingGames posted [p:903640153] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>fake news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 06/20/18 3:07:25 PM #4:	they do a great job of making Mengele proud --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:903640200] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>they do a great job of making Mengele proud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 06/20/18 3:07:57 PM #5:	I thought people on here were pro vaccines though? --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:903640232] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>I thought people on here were pro vaccines though?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steelix500 06/20/18 3:09:23 PM #7:	Good <cite>Steelix500 posted [p:903640316] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>Good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BillyKidd 06/20/18 3:09:38 PM #8:	Antifar posted... https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them obese right... --- Tho I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil. For I'm the meanest mofo in the whole f'n valley https://imgur.com/4GzX1 <cite>BillyKidd posted [p:903640335] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ <quote>President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them obese </quote></quote> right...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 06/20/18 3:09:46 PM #10:	solosnake posted... I thought people on here were pro vaccines though? This doesn't sound like vaccines. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:903640349] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote>I thought people on here were pro vaccines though?</quote> This doesn't sound like vaccines.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BillyKidd 06/20/18 3:18:06 PM #11:	Illegals are coming across the border with scabies, lice, drug resistant tuberculosis, polio, malaria, chagas disease, dengue fever, leprosy, marburg disease and the bubonic plague. But sure, let's not treat highly contagious and deadly diseases. --- Tho I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil. For I'm the meanest mofo in the whole f'n valley https://imgur.com/4GzX1 <cite>BillyKidd posted [p:903640937] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>Illegals are coming across the border with scabies, lice, drug resistant tuberculosis, polio, malaria, chagas disease, dengue fever, leprosy, marburg disease and the bubonic plague. But sure, let's not treat highly contagious and deadly diseases.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaTwistedGuns 06/20/18 3:19:39 PM #12:	How else is he going to get his space force army? --- https://imgur.com/2PsT4CN https://imgur.com/SsQ4QID https://imgur.com/OCBDT2a https://imgur.com/P3kW52B <cite>DaTwistedGuns posted [p:903641042] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>How else is he going to get his space force army?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 06/20/18 3:23:36 PM #13:	BillyKidd posted... Illegals are coming across the border with scabies, lice, drug resistant tuberculosis, polio, malaria, chagas disease, dengue fever, leprosy, marburg disease and the bubonic plague. But sure, let's not treat highly contagious and deadly diseases. Where's the evidence that this has anything to do with disease control rather than behavior control? This is nothing more than fear mongering and a use of the "diseased foreigner" stereotype. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:903641327] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>Illegals are coming across the border with scabies, lice, drug resistant tuberculosis, polio, malaria, chagas disease, dengue fever, leprosy, marburg disease and the bubonic plague. But sure, let's not treat highly contagious and deadly diseases.</quote> Where's the evidence that this has anything to do with disease control rather than behavior control? This is nothing more than fear mongering and a use of the "diseased foreigner" stereotype.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/20/18 3:25:38 PM #14:	solosnake posted... I thought people on here were pro vaccines though? Do you even know what a vaccine even is? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:903641475] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote>I thought people on here were pro vaccines though?</quote> Do you even know what a vaccine even is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jayj420 06/20/18 3:26:20 PM #15:	legendary_zell posted... BillyKidd posted... Illegals are coming across the border with scabies, lice, drug resistant tuberculosis, polio, malaria, chagas disease, dengue fever, leprosy, marburg disease and the bubonic plague. But sure, let's not treat highly contagious and deadly diseases. Where's the evidence that this has anything to do with disease control rather than behavior control? This is nothing more than fear mongering and a use of the "diseased foreigner" stereotype. It isn't a stereotype when they have diseases. Clearly not everyone is like that, but a lot of people have serious health issues who cross the border. --- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell <cite>jayj420 posted [p:903641526] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>Illegals are coming across the border with scabies, lice, drug resistant tuberculosis, polio, malaria, chagas disease, dengue fever, leprosy, marburg disease and the bubonic plague. But sure, let's not treat highly contagious and deadly diseases.</quote> Where's the evidence that this has anything to do with disease control rather than behavior control? This is nothing more than fear mongering and a use of the "diseased foreigner" stereotype.</quote> It isn't a stereotype when they have diseases. Clearly not everyone is like that, but a lot of people have serious health issues who cross the border.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 06/20/18 3:27:35 PM #16:	BillyKidd posted... Antifar posted... https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them obese right... LOL --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:903641618] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ <quote>President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them obese </quote></quote> right...</quote> LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WrenchNinja 06/20/18 3:28:09 PM #17:	solosnake posted... I thought people on here were pro vaccines though? Anti-psychotics aren't vaccines, genius --- http://i.minus.com/ibb54oFODduJvk.gif http://i.minus.com/ibiCujxJzTJr5Z.gif https://imgur.com/CkHC5 <cite>WrenchNinja posted [p:903641647] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote>I thought people on here were pro vaccines though?</quote> Anti-psychotics aren't vaccines, genius</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 06/20/18 3:28:38 PM #18:	i want a zombie army --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:903641687] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>i want a zombie army</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Unowninator- 06/20/18 3:29:25 PM #19:	Oh my god. I actually want to put an end to this, but what can I possibly do? --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:903641746] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>Oh my god. I actually want to put an end to this, but what can I possibly do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 06/20/18 3:30:39 PM #20:	Antifar posted... Children held at Shiloh Treatment Center, a government contractor south of Houston that houses immigrant minors, described being held down and injected, according to the federal court filings. The lawsuit alleges that children were told they would not be released or see their parents unless they took medication and that they only were receiving vitamins. Hitler comparisons not looking so ridiculous huh <cite>Axiom posted [p:903641840] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Children held at Shiloh Treatment Center, a government contractor south of Houston that houses immigrant minors, described being held down and injected, according to the federal court filings. The lawsuit alleges that children were told they would not be released or see their parents unless they took medication and that they only were receiving vitamins.</quote> Hitler comparisons not looking so ridiculous huh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 06/20/18 3:39:35 PM #21:	Axiom posted... Hitler comparisons not looking so ridiculous huh Let's wait for all the facts! --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:903642450] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Hitler comparisons not looking so ridiculous huh</quote> Let's wait for all the facts!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 06/20/18 3:43:53 PM #22:	FightingGames posted... fake news Legitimately sounds like it --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:903642704] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>FightingGames posted...</cite> <quote>fake news</quote> Legitimately sounds like it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 06/20/18 3:45:13 PM #23:	>the democrats made trump do it >its an obama era policy >theyve been doing it since bush >its not a cage its an enclosed fence >theyre not sedatives theyre vitamins >shouldnt have broken the law if you didnt want to be sent to the camps >haha take that libs --- the last jedi <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:903642783] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>>the democrats made trump do it >its an obama era policy >theyve been doing it since bush >its not a cage its an enclosed fence >theyre not sedatives theyre vitamins >shouldnt have broken the law if you didnt want to be sent to the camps >haha take that libs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarLightGlimmR 06/20/18 3:45:41 PM #25:	It's good to be vaccinated. <cite>StarLightGlimmR posted [p:903642820] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>It's good to be vaccinated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 06/20/18 3:48:53 PM #26:	BillyKidd posted... Antifar posted... https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them obese right... I didn't know Dr. Ze-- I mean Dr. Ned worked for the government --- "Donald Trump has the most presidential penis of all time" - DifferentialEquation <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:903643021] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ <quote>President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them obese </quote></quote> right...</quote> I didn't know Dr. Ze-- I mean Dr. Ned worked for the government</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/20/18 3:49:10 PM #27:	BLAKUboy posted... Axiom posted... Hitler comparisons not looking so ridiculous huh Let's wait for all the facts! Remember they are just following orders! --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:903643035] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Hitler comparisons not looking so ridiculous huh</quote> Let's wait for all the facts!</quote> Remember they are just following orders!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 06/20/18 3:50:10 PM #29:	Apparently conservaderps think psychiatric medications treat infections or vaccinate. Derp. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:903643090] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>Apparently conservaderps think psychiatric medications treat infections or vaccinate. Derp.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Scottydoesntno 06/20/18 3:50:26 PM #31:	"Trumps drugs are making our kids fat!" Right... --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Scottydoesntno posted [p:903643117] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>"Trumps drugs are making our kids fat!" Right...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 06/20/18 3:50:42 PM #32:	Bullet_Wing posted... wackyteen posted... FightingGames posted... fake news Legitimately sounds like it The actual court documents are included along with witness accounts It's not fake news, it's just old news. There's been a serious movement to shut this place down since 2014. My only request is that we focus this outrage on the whole of youth treatment facilities. It is a huge problem, and I personally know it has been going on since 2007, but let's be honest. It's probably always been a problem. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:903643135] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FightingGames posted...</cite> <quote>fake news</quote> Legitimately sounds like it</quote> The actual court documents are included along with witness accounts</quote> It's not fake news, it's just old news. There's been a serious movement to shut this place down since 2014. My only request is that we focus this outrage on the whole of youth treatment facilities. It is a huge problem, and I personally know it has been going on since 2007, but let's be honest. It's probably always been a problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 06/20/18 3:55:23 PM #33:	Scottydoesntno posted... "Trumps drugs are making our kids fat!" Right... I will try to enlighten the ignorant. Fact: antipsychotic medications often result in large weight gain. There ya go. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:903643398] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scottydoesntno posted...</cite> <quote>"Trumps drugs are making our kids fat!" Right...</quote> I will try to enlighten the ignorant. Fact: antipsychotic medications often result in large weight gain. There ya go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 06/20/18 4:03:23 PM #34:	This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:903643875] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 06/20/18 4:05:50 PM #36:	shockthemonkey posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines. This has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever, can you make a single post that isnt intellectually dishonest? Proudclad always has to crictize big government despite wanting universal income. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:903644022] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines.</quote> This has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever, can you make a single post that isnt intellectually dishonest?</quote> Proudclad always has to crictize big government despite wanting universal income.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/20/18 4:06:34 PM #37:	The children were given soap and a towel and told to step into the chamber --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:903644061] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>The children were given soap and a towel and told to step into the chamber</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Magyar15 06/20/18 4:07:26 PM #38:	Kaiganeer posted... Antifar posted... creating a zombie army of children well, at least they're staying away from hyperbole --- A good man would prefer to be defeated than to defeat injustice by evil means - Sallust <cite>Magyar15 posted [p:903644116] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaiganeer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>creating a zombie army of children</quote> well, at least they're staying away from hyperbole</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/20/18 4:08:17 PM #39:	Tmaster148 posted... shockthemonkey posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines. This has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever, can you make a single post that isnt intellectually dishonest? Proudclad always has to crictize big government despite wanting universal income. I actually think Vaccines are one of the few things Big Government SHOULD impose. I don't think Anti-Vaxers realize that by refusing to get vaccinated they are putting everyone else in danger... It's not a personal choice thing like say whether or not you get a tattoo --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:903644172] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines.</quote> This has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever, can you make a single post that isnt intellectually dishonest?</quote> Proudclad always has to crictize big government despite wanting universal income.</quote> I actually think Vaccines are one of the few things Big Government SHOULD impose. I don't think Anti-Vaxers realize that by refusing to get vaccinated they are putting everyone else in danger... It's not a personal choice thing like say whether or not you get a tattoo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soyforsteaks 06/20/18 4:08:23 PM #40:	new age hitler --- No soy? Don't even talk to me. <cite>soyforsteaks posted [p:903644176] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>new age hitler</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 06/20/18 4:09:24 PM #41:	Antifar posted... https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them dizzy, listless, obese and even incapacitated, according to legal filings that show immigrant children in U.S. custody subdued with powerful psychiatric drugs. Children held at Shiloh Treatment Center, a government contractor south of Houston that houses immigrant minors, described being held down and injected, according to the federal court filings. The lawsuit alleges that children were told they would not be released or see their parents unless they took medication and that they only were receiving vitamins. Parents and the children themselves told attorneys the drugs rendered them unable to walk, afraid of people and wanting to sleep constantly, according to affidavits filed April 23 in U.S. District Court in California. One mother said her child fell repeatedly, hitting her head, and ended up in a wheelchair. A child described trying to open a window and being hurled against a door by a Shiloh supervisor, who then choked her until she fainted. The supervisor told me I was going to get a medication injection to calm me down, the girl said. Two staff grabbed me, and the doctor gave me the injection despite my objection and left me there on the bed. Another child recounted being made to take pills in the morning, at noon and night. The child said the staff told me that some of the pills are vitamins because they think I need to gain weight. The vitamins changed about two times, and each time I feel different. Shiloh is among 71 companies that receive funds from the federal government to house and supervise immigrant children deemed unaccompanied minors. An investigation by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting found that nearly half of the $3.4 billion paid to those companies in the last four years went to homes with serious allegations of mistreating children. In nearly all cases reviewed by Reveal, the federal government continued contracts with the companies after serious allegations were raised. At Reveals request, forensic psychiatrist Mark. J. Mills assessed materials from 420 pages of childrens medical records and statements filed in California federal court this April. You dont need to administer these kinds of drugs unless someone is plucking out their eyeball or some such. The facility should not use these drugs to control behavior. Thats not what antipsychotics should be used for. Thats like the old Soviet Union used to do. The records were filed in connection with an ongoing class-action status lawsuit alleging poor treatment of immigrant children in U.S. custody. An attorney representing the children said youth separated from their parents often become depressed, angry, anxious and, sometimes, unruly and that, in turn, encourages prescription of inappropriate medication. ... Shiloh already had a reputation for mistreating children. In December 2014, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Houston, called for Shiloh to be shut down, citing reports from the Houston Chronicle of physical violence, unreasonable and excessive use of physical restraints, administering emergency medications without notice to governmental authorities, and several deaths of minor children while in custody, she said in a statement. @27_Sandman_40 , are these still "summer camps"? Do you still think we should shrug it off and laugh at it because "this is nothing compared to what your ancestors went through"? For the people wondering about this callout, sandman has been whining about this situation, for example here: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76732191 <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:903644258] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/ <quote>President Donald Trumps zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them dizzy, listless, obese and even incapacitated, according to legal filings that show immigrant children in U.S. custody subdued with powerful psychiatric drugs. Children held at Shiloh Treatment Center, a government contractor south of Houston that houses immigrant minors, described being held down and injected, according to the federal court filings. The lawsuit alleges that children were told they would not be released or see their parents unless they took medication and that they only were receiving vitamins. Parents and the children themselves told attorneys the drugs rendered them unable to walk, afraid of people and wanting to sleep constantly, according to affidavits filed April 23 in U.S. District Court in California. One mother said her child fell repeatedly, hitting her head, and ended up in a wheelchair. A child described trying to open a window and being hurled against a door by a Shiloh supervisor, who then choked her until she fainted. The supervisor told me I was going to get a medication injection to calm me down, the girl said. Two staff grabbed me, and the doctor gave me the injection despite my objection and left me there on the bed. Another child recounted being made to take pills in the morning, at noon and night. The child said the staff told me that some of the pills are vitamins because they think I need to gain weight. The vitamins changed about two times, and each time I feel different. Shiloh is among 71 companies that receive funds from the federal government to house and supervise immigrant children deemed unaccompanied minors. An investigation by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting found that nearly half of the $3.4 billion paid to those companies in the last four years went to homes with serious allegations of mistreating children. In nearly all cases reviewed by Reveal, the federal government continued contracts with the companies after serious allegations were raised. At Reveals request, forensic psychiatrist Mark. J. Mills assessed materials from 420 pages of childrens medical records and statements filed in California federal court this April. You dont need to administer these kinds of drugs unless someone is plucking out their eyeball or some such. The facility should not use these drugs to control behavior. Thats not what antipsychotics should be used for. Thats like the old Soviet Union used to do. The records were filed in connection with an ongoing class-action status lawsuit alleging poor treatment of immigrant children in U.S. custody. An attorney representing the children said youth separated from their parents often become depressed, angry, anxious and, sometimes, unruly and that, in turn, encourages prescription of inappropriate medication. ... Shiloh already had a reputation for mistreating children. In December 2014, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Houston, called for Shiloh to be shut down, citing reports from the Houston Chronicle of physical violence, unreasonable and excessive use of physical restraints, administering emergency medications without notice to governmental authorities, and several deaths of minor children while in custody, she said in a statement. </quote></quote> @27_Sandman_40 , are these still "summer camps"? Do you still think we should shrug it off and laugh at it because "this is nothing compared to what your ancestors went through"? For the people wondering about this callout, sandman has been whining about this situation, for example here: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76732191</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slimfizzle2 06/20/18 4:09:35 PM #42:	UnfairRepresent posted... The children were given soap and a towel and told to step into the chamber I hate this fucking timeline --- Solomon Grundy wants Pants Too! <cite>slimfizzle2 posted [p:903644268] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The children were given soap and a towel and told to step into the chamber</quote> I hate this fucking timeline</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 06/20/18 4:11:22 PM #43:	If there was EVER going to be an impeachable offense, it would have been this. If he doesn't get impeached for this he can actually shove them into an oven himself and nothing will happen. This is rock bottom. <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:903644386] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>If there was EVER going to be an impeachable offense, it would have been this. If he doesn't get impeached for this he can actually shove them into an oven himself and nothing will happen. This is rock bottom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/20/18 4:12:48 PM #44:	UnfairRepresent posted... Tmaster148 posted... shockthemonkey posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines. This has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever, can you make a single post that isnt intellectually dishonest? Proudclad always has to crictize big government despite wanting universal income. I actually think Vaccines are one of the few things Big Government SHOULD impose. I don't think Anti-Vaxers realize that by refusing to get vaccinated they are putting everyone else in danger... It's not a personal choice thing like say whether or not you get a tattoo I agree. I think the government has an important role in public health. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:903644471] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines.</quote> This has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever, can you make a single post that isnt intellectually dishonest?</quote> Proudclad always has to crictize big government despite wanting universal income.</quote> I actually think Vaccines are one of the few things Big Government SHOULD impose. I don't think Anti-Vaxers realize that by refusing to get vaccinated they are putting everyone else in danger... It's not a personal choice thing like say whether or not you get a tattoo</quote> I agree. I think the government has an important role in public health.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 06/20/18 4:13:40 PM #45:	UnfairRepresent posted... Tmaster148 posted... shockthemonkey posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines. This has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever, can you make a single post that isnt intellectually dishonest? Proudclad always has to crictize big government despite wanting universal income. I actually think Vaccines are one of the few things Big Government SHOULD impose. I don't think Anti-Vaxers realize that by refusing to get vaccinated they are putting everyone else in danger... It's not a personal choice thing like say whether or not you get a tattoo I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just realize that it's insane to want to give even more power to the government that is already forcing drugs into little children for no reason. There is literally now evidence of them doing this, and your response to that is to give them even more power in this regard? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:903644537] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>This is why you don't empower the government to force ANY type of injections onto people. Not even vaccines.</quote> This has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever, can you make a single post that isnt intellectually dishonest?</quote> Proudclad always has to crictize big government despite wanting universal income.</quote> I actually think Vaccines are one of the few things Big Government SHOULD impose. I don't think Anti-Vaxers realize that by refusing to get vaccinated they are putting everyone else in danger... It's not a personal choice thing like say whether or not you get a tattoo</quote> I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just realize that it's insane to want to give even more power to the government that is already forcing drugs into little children for no reason. There is literally now evidence of them doing this, and your response to that is to give them even more power in this regard?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/20/18 4:15:35 PM #46:	FLUFFYGERM posted... I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just realize that it's insane to want to give even more power to the government that is already forcing drugs into little children for no reason. There is literally now evidence of them doing this, and your response to that is to give them even more power in this regard? Sounds like anti vaxxer talk. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:903644656] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just realize that it's insane to want to give even more power to the government that is already forcing drugs into little children for no reason. There is literally now evidence of them doing this, and your response to that is to give them even more power in this regard?</quote> Sounds like anti vaxxer talk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soyforsteaks 06/20/18 4:17:22 PM #47:	no ones forced to take vaccines though are they? just if you want to send your kids to school, be around other humans, live, etc... --- No soy? Don't even talk to me. <cite>soyforsteaks posted [p:903644762] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>no ones forced to take vaccines though are they? just if you want to send your kids to school, be around other humans, live, etc...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 06/20/18 4:20:08 PM #48:	Tmaster148 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just realize that it's insane to want to give even more power to the government that is already forcing drugs into little children for no reason. There is literally now evidence of them doing this, and your response to that is to give them even more power in this regard? Sounds like anti vaxxer talk. It's possibly to believe the following two things simultaneously: -vaccines are good and it's stupid to not get your kids vaccinated -it's not necessarily a good idea to let the government force it on you I feel like 95% of the criticism FLUFFYGERM gets is because he's one of the few people here who's actually capable of nuanced thoughts. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:903644908] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just realize that it's insane to want to give even more power to the government that is already forcing drugs into little children for no reason. There is literally now evidence of them doing this, and your response to that is to give them even more power in this regard?</quote> Sounds like anti vaxxer talk.</quote> It's possibly to believe the following two things simultaneously: -vaccines are good and it's stupid to not get your kids vaccinated -it's not necessarily a good idea to let the government force it on you I feel like 95% of the criticism FLUFFYGERM gets is because he's one of the few people here who's actually capable of nuanced thoughts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 06/20/18 4:22:03 PM #49:	has @Anarchy_Juiblex defended this yet? <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:903645011] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>has @Anarchy_Juiblex defended this yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 06/20/18 4:23:55 PM #50:	the court filings accuses Shiloh of using drugs like Seroquel and Haldol as chemical restraints. that's a very serious accusation it's also worth noting that Shiloh RTC is a private contractor, so the problem comes from lack of oversight on the government's part rather than any sinister national plot to turn detainees into chem-addled ghouls (I wish the same could be said of Gitmo though, since that was 100% military) <cite>treewojima posted [p:903645133] in Immigrant ... [t:76733551]...</cite> <quote>the court filings accuses Shiloh of using drugs like Seroquel and Haldol as chemical restraints. that's a very serious accusation it's also worth noting that Shiloh RTC is a private contractor, so the problem comes from lack of oversight on the government's part rather than any sinister national plot to turn detainees into chem-addled ghouls (I wish the same could be said of Gitmo though, since that was 100% military)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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