Current Events > There should be a fat tax.

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Unhealthy fat people cost healthy people (Fat or otherwise) millions and millions of dollars a year
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Unhealthy fat people cost healthy people (Fat or otherwise) millions and millions of dollars a year

im disabled so i could bypass your fat tax

what now
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let fat people pay for universal health care
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frogman_295 posted...

im disabled so i could bypass your fat tax

are you disabled because of your fat
or are you fat because you're disabled
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wtf we love taxes
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2nd option i guess, i have psychiatric disorders and yeah depression plays a role in me not caring what i do with my body.
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What are you...a FATHEAD?!
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hockeybub89 posted...

wtf we love taxes

no we love tacos
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frogman_295 posted...

2nd option i guess, i have psychiatric disorders and yeah depression plays a role in me not caring what i do with my body.

ah the old crazy and lazy

FAT TAXED
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There are a couple issues with this. First, people can be healthy at every size. Second, there's no good way to objectively identify fat people.
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Aren't you slightly chubby yourself, TC ?
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

First, people can be healthy at every size.

wrong
if you're at a certain level of obesity your chances of heart disease and such skyrocket
you put stress on your joints and bones
etc

TheRealDill2000 posted...

Second, there's no good way to objectively identify fat people.

wrong
caliper tests for fat percentage, waist measurements, triglyceride levels used together is more than enough to establish whether or not a person is unhealthily fat
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DarthWendy posted...

Aren't you slightly chubby yourself, TC ?

i'm not "my healthcare is subsidized by other, non-morbidly obese people because I have to use the hospital so much" unhealthy fat
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

DarthWendy posted...

Aren't you slightly chubby yourself, TC ?

i'm not "my healthcare is subsidized by other, non-morbidly obese people because I have to use the hospital so much" unhealthy fat

Pic of you on your Rascal, tho.
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Just tell fat people to eat less

/s
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Wendy you can't go on about my pictures or my appearance if you're gonna hide your hot self from me by never posting pics
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@TheRealDill2000 posted...

Second, there's no good way to objectively identify fat people.

??? Have you heard of scales? Body fat percentage? BMI?
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This is obviously ridiculous but I think people do need to take more responsibility for their own health rather than collectively letting themselves become fat and unhealthy and then complaining about the ballooning health care costs
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...

@TheRealDill2000 posted...

Second, there's no good way to objectively identify fat people.

??? Have you heard of scales? Body fat percentage? BMI?

There's lots of factors BMI doesn't take into account. I think Rafa Nadal is technically obese by the BMI
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i heard @DarthWendy is hot is this true
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

wrong
caliper tests for fat percentage, waist measurements, triglyceride levels used together is more than enough to establish whether or not a person is unhealthily fat

And how are you going to make every citizen go get that test? We're not filthy communists.
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Is it just me or does CE seem to be particularly salty about fat people? Why is that?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

i heard @DarthWendy is hot is this true

Absolutely not. Who told you such LIES ? >:[
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REMercsChamp posted...

EpicMickeyDrew posted...

@TheRealDill2000 posted...

Second, there's no good way to objectively identify fat people.

??? Have you heard of scales? Body fat percentage? BMI?

There's lots of factors BMI doesn't take into account. I think Rafa Nadal is technically obese by the BMI

I know that's why i suggested Body fat %, BMI is only really inaccurate when a person is very fit and has a lot of muscle.
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CyricZ posted...

Is it just me or does CE seem to be particularly salty about fat people? Why is that?

It is very weird. The irony is that most people on CE are probably overweight themselves.
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CyricZ posted...

Is it just me or does CE seem to be particularly salty about fat people? Why is that?

Pure and simple backward fatcism. I find this revolting as well.
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CyricZ posted...

Is it just me or does CE seem to be particularly salty about fat people? Why is that?

Lots of projection going on.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Lots of projection going on.

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DarthWendy posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

i heard @DarthWendy is hot is this true

Absolutely not. Who told you such LIES ? >:[

it's a rumor that i heard

care to dispel it?
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The only situation where I'd like something like this enforced would be air travel - the fuel costs of the flight are directly proportional to the weight on the plane, so my plane ticket price is literally subsidizing some fat **** eating his jumbo bag of chips.

ArchiePeck posted...

The only situation where I'd like something like this enforced would be air travel - the fuel costs of the flight are directly proportional to the weight on the plane, so my plane ticket price is literally subsidizing some fat **** eating his jumbo bag of chips.

how come an extra large shirt costs the same if it's a medium
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CyricZ posted...

Is it just me or does CE seem to be particularly salty about fat people? Why is that?

It's a heavy subject.

Jokes aside, I'm pretty sure it's a hatred created by those fat acceptance advocates.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

The only situation where I'd like something like this enforced would be air travel - the fuel costs of the flight are directly proportional to the weight on the plane, so my plane ticket price is literally subsidizing some fat **** eating his jumbo bag of chips.

how come an extra large shirt costs the same if it's a medium

Because the material costs in clothing prices are a comparatively minor percentage of the retail cost. You're mainly paying for the brand/design.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

DarthWendy posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

i heard @DarthWendy is hot is this true

Absolutely not. Who told you such LIES ? >:[

it's a rumor that i heard

care to dispel it?

I just did :]
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DarthWendy posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

DarthWendy posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

i heard @DarthWendy is hot is this true

Absolutely not. Who told you such LIES ? >:[

it's a rumor that i heard

care to dispel it?

I just did :]

no no no that doesn't confirm anything
you could be LYING
see how i just flipped that around on you

come on wendy
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@DarthWendy
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Literally a tax on poor people
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DevsBro posted...

Literally a tax on poor people

I'm pretty sure wealthier people can also be over-sized, no ?
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DarthWendy posted...

DevsBro posted...

Literally a tax on poor people

I'm pretty sure wealthier people can also be over-sized, no ?

well in the US, poor people are disproportionately obese because the kind of cheap food marketed toward them is lacking in proper nutrition, among various other reasons at local and government levels.
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DevsBro posted...

Literally a tax on poor people

That is exactly what I came to say
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Why not just tax unhealthy food
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Balrog0 posted...

Why not just tax unhealthy food

DevsBro posted...

Literally a tax on poor people

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voldothegr8 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

Why not just tax unhealthy food

DevsBro posted...

Literally a tax on poor people

Not really. It's much more complicated than that. Some excise taxes are this way (tobacco) but not every 'vice' goes away as you go up in income (alcohol or especially served drink taxes, for insurance).

I mean all consumption taxes are going to be regressive compared to our progressive income tax but this wouldn't be too bad compared to the regular old sales tax, gas tax, etc. I personally wouldn't prefer it, but it makes more sense than an actual fat tax
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Only if there's also a tax on people that live past a certain age (say retirement age) to fund their expensive care. Potentially, some unhealthy people will cost less due to dying earlier.

Or we could just not go down this route all, for various reasons (the divisiveness, the administration, the effects on people that exacerbate the issue trying to be fixed, etc.).

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

First, people can be healthy at every size.

wrong
if you're at a certain level of obesity your chances of heart disease and such skyrocket
you put stress on your joints and bones
etc

TheRealDill2000 posted...

Second, there's no good way to objectively identify fat people.

wrong
caliper tests for fat percentage, waist measurements, triglyceride levels used together is more than enough to establish whether or not a person is unhealthily fat

Care to retort any of these 'blatant' lies, @TheRealDill2000?


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luigi13579 posted...

Only if there's also a tax on people that live past a certain age (say retirement age) to fund their expensive care. Potentially, some unhealthy people will cost less due to dying earlier.

Or we could just not go down this route all, for various reasons (the divisiveness, the administration, the effects on people that exacerbate the issue trying to be fixed, etc.).

Tbf, we do allow insurers to charge old people more than young people for this reason.
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Balrog0 posted...

Tbf, we do allow insurers to charge old people more than young people for this reason.

It makes sense I suppose. I live in the UK, so I don't really come across this fortunately. We do have health insurance for people that want it, but there's the NHS to fall back on. Although healthcare and social care are different beasts.

inb4theNHSisfailing