Current Events > Trump advisor says that black dem is out of his "cotton-picking mind"

(+) Yeah! (+)

after being called a racist

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/2156891227737253/?hc_ref=ARTtR3orNLPwhDJU0U95DQTn_4Ewcc4I_GXWN-E2AVbNccxGCbf_CI6OctNkAnqwh9gq

Party of Lincoln, amirite
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In another topic, usual suspects are all saying "used a lot in the South and Midwest and no one thinks about race when they say it"
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

In another topic, usual suspects are all saying "used a lot in the South and Midwest and no one thinks about race when they say it"

someone tried to say black people arent even mad even though that topic had a video of a black man getting mad about it
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

In another topic, usual suspects are all saying "used a lot in the South and Midwest and no one thinks about race when they say it"

Nobody even thinks of race anymore when it comes to that phrase, well except those living in the NY and CA bubbles.
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Fam_Fam posted...

after being called a racist

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/2156891227737253/?hc_ref=ARTtR3orNLPwhDJU0U95DQTn_4Ewcc4I_GXWN-E2AVbNccxGCbf_CI6OctNkAnqwh9gq

trump is a racist though (he cant comprehend what he is).
he already hates mexicans because of the fact of a beauty pageant. that situation just proves it.
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kingdrake2 posted...

trump is a racist though.

Nah
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https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/cotton-picking.html

Literally not racist. This is what happens in 2018 where everyone immediately pulls out the race card and race bait and feel the need to white knight everything: they forget to think critically and they sure as Hell dont do any research on what they are white knighting. It ends up, in this case, making a person look foolish by getting upset over nothing. I mean, come on people.

Nobody even thinks of slavery anymore when it comes to the Civil War, well except those living in the NY and CA bubbles.
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Yeah, well every time you tell someone that they suck at something, you're being either sexist or homophobic, implying typical people that suck (women and gay men) are weaker and not as good as people that don't suck
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

everyone immediately pulls out the race card and race bait and feel the need to white knight everything: they forget to think critically

https://i.giphy.com/media/9aPBhThp26KIg/giphy.gif
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Fam_Fam posted...

after being called a racist

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/2156891227737253/?hc_ref=ARTtR3orNLPwhDJU0U95DQTn_4Ewcc4I_GXWN-E2AVbNccxGCbf_CI6OctNkAnqwh9gq

First of all, in the video, he doesn't say "You are out of your cotton picking mind..." he said "Yall are." and went "Democrats". Secondly, nice democratic plantation mindset.
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Hop103 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

In another topic, usual suspects are all saying "used a lot in the South and Midwest and no one thinks about race when they say it"

Nobody even thinks of race anymore when it comes to that phrase, well except those living in the NY and CA bubbles.

Isn't Trump from NY though?

Never remember him living in the south, so it's odd to see that slang.

Not sure if I'm right though.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Yeah, well every time you tell someone that they suck at something, you're being either sexist or homophobic, implying typical people that suck (women and gay men) are weaker and not as good as people that don't suck

this is a complete shit post. because all people suck all sorts of things. this makes no sense. also when you say someone sucks, you aren't saying that they are weaker at all.

Dems are so desperate it's getting sad.
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Hop103 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

In another topic, usual suspects are all saying "used a lot in the South and Midwest and no one thinks about race when they say it"

Nobody even thinks of race anymore when it comes to that phrase, well except those living in the NY and CA bubbles.

Oh look someone posting fake news
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That's hilarious
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Dems are so desperate it's getting sad.

you don't think its an inappropriate/insensitive thing to say, considering the context?

talk about grasping at straws.

The raciest card is like knee jerk reaction anymore to anything
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Dems are so desperate it's getting sad.

What's the bet we see them once again complain left and right about "Russian interference" after they utterly lose in the midterms? ;)
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Hop103 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

In another topic, usual suspects are all saying "used a lot in the South and Midwest and no one thinks about race when they say it"

Nobody even thinks of race anymore when it comes to that phrase, well except those living in the NY and CA bubbles.

Show me any political commentator using it in regards to a white guy ever, ever.
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"Cotton-picking" is a common trite phrase from different times that has already been used so often that its mostly used to express emotion. Kind of like "hornswoggle" and "peck-of-trouble."

DarkTransient posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

Dems are so desperate it's getting sad.

What's the bet we see them once again complain left and right about "Russian interference" after they utterly lose in the midterms? ;)

Like how conservatives blame illegal immigrants on Dems winning?

HorrorJudasGoat posted...

"Cotton-picking" is a common trite phrase from different times that has already been used so often that its mostly used to express emotion. Kind of like "hornswoggle" and "peck-of-trouble."

"The expression 'out of your cotton-picking mind' is no longer deemed an acceptable description of a black person in the USA."

phrases.org.uk/meanings/cotton-picking.html

Context matters. In this particular context, one should see why it would not be an appropriate thing to say to someone out of anger.

Those who sincerely believe this is racist are misinformed. The far left continues to dilute the meaning of racism. They'll continue to weaken the meaning until eventually very few will care about the accusations. It will become noise that most people will tune out. This is already beginning to take hold.
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It's a commonly used phrase. There was no good reason for anyone to get upset over it.
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

It's a commonly used phrase. There was no good reason for anyone to get upset over it.

you hear it commonly?

Fam_Fam posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

It's a commonly used phrase. There was no good reason for anyone to get upset over it.

you hear it commonly?

Honestly, people no longer use the phrase...at least not 'commonly'. If anything, an old man might say it...I've heard a man say "You're a scholar and a gentleman" more than 3 times and that was probably enough the first time.

Fam_Fam posted...

you hear it commonly?

You're out of you're fucking mind is what he wanted to say so he diverted to a something else.

Was is smart? No.

But does it make him a racist? No.

But keep pushing the racist narrative it will make Trump 2020 a lock because people are sick of hearing bout it in 2018.
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its still commonly used at klan rallies
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this is a controversy every month

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/04/14/russell-westbrook-paul-george-address-thunder-announcer-cotton-picking-comments/517878002/

HypnoCoosh posted...

Fam_Fam posted...

you hear it commonly?

You're out of you're fucking mind is what he wanted to say so he diverted to a something else.

Was is smart? No.

But does it make him a racist? No.

But keep pushing the racist narrative it will make Trump 2020 a lock because people are sick of hearing bout it in 2018.

who said it made him a racist?

Funbazooka posted...

Those who sincerely believe this is racist are misinformed. The far left continues to dilute the meaning of racism. They'll continue to weaken the meaning until eventually very few will care about the accusations. It will become noise that most people will tune out. This is already beginning to take hold.

Already beginning to "take hold"? It's already the case, outright.

And make no mistake. While the followers might be going along with something they genuinely believe, those at the top of the leftist movement know exactly that that's the effect it's having. That's what they want to happen, so they can start bringing out actual racism and no one will care because "racism" has become meaningless.
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Only black people can say that you racist
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And just to argue for the Left here for a bit, this isn't a new thing for them to be upset about. They've been upset over it in the past as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmbEhWYbsOs" data-time="
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what an unfortunate choice of words
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"Don't believe anything that [racial slur] says about me being racist"
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Fam_Fam posted...

HorrorJudasGoat posted...

"Cotton-picking" is a common trite phrase from different times that has already been used so often that its mostly used to express emotion. Kind of like "hornswoggle" and "peck-of-trouble."

"The expression 'out of your cotton-picking mind' is no longer deemed an acceptable description of a black person in the USA."

phrases.org.uk/meanings/cotton-picking.html

Context matters. In this particular context, one should see why it would not be an appropriate thing to say to someone out of anger.

Ignorant people eager to misconstrue doesn't make it inappropriate imo, especially not in the context of an argument happening on your run-of-the-mill political mudslinging show where people are routinely inappropriate, emotional, hysterical, disrespectful, etc. That's rather normal behavior in this context. If any of these talking heads try to play nice they just get walked on all over and taken advantage of.
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HorrorJudasGoat posted...

"Cotton-picking" is a common trite phrase from different times that has already been used so often that its mostly used to express emotion. Kind of like "hornswoggle" and "peck-of-trouble."

I would agree to this, Because I have heard the term used before, and never thought it had any racist connotations on its own. Id be willing to accept they didn't mean anything racist by it, but they were dumb and it was a racist remark.

But at best, saying it to a black person - immediately after they called you a racist, is very poor judgement, and at least a little racist.

Proto_Spark posted...

HorrorJudasGoat posted...

"Cotton-picking" is a common trite phrase from different times that has already been used so often that its mostly used to express emotion. Kind of like "hornswoggle" and "peck-of-trouble."

I would agree to this, Because I have heard the term used before, and never thought it had any racist connotations on its own. Id be willing to accept they didn't mean anything racist by it, but they were dumb and it was a racist remark.

But at best, saying it to a black person - immediately after they called you a racist, is very poor judgement, and at least a little racist.

Yeah but this topic is full of completely dense and clueless individuals who don't understand concepts of context, nuance and tact

It really shouldn't be hard to figure out why telling a black person that phrase MIGHT not be well received
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Its starting to seem like the people who see racism in each and every thing are the real racists. You cant be like that without overcompensating for something.

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

Its starting to seem like the people who see racism in each and every thing are the real racists. You cant be like that without overcompensating for something.

Your inability to read and grasp nuance and context doesn't magically make other people racist. The real world doesn't work that way
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Dont quote that guy. Thank you.
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

Its starting to seem like the people who see racism in each and every thing are the real racists. You cant be like that without overcompensating for something.

I mean, look at some of the policies they support?

Affirmative action? Y'kno, the law that gives minorities a bit of a step up on the work ladder... but in practice, means they're put into a position they don't yet have the experience for, and will therefore do a poor job of, which both creates a negative image of minorities in the employer's eyes, and guarantees they won't move up to any of the even-higher steps. Compare that to those who avoid taking "advantage" of such policies and instead start at the actual bottom and work their way up - and often end up very successful as a result.

This, combined with encouraging them onto welfare, is in turn designed to keep them in their low-income, minority-dominant areas... away from the rich white people who are doing this "because they care" (actually, because they want to keep them away from themself without being obviously racist).

In some countries, these people push hard for minority groups to have their own seperate polls at the elections. Officially, this is "to ensure their voice is heard" or something. In practice? Those polls are almost always landslide wins, but the general poll that the minority memebers were pulled away from are often very close calls, where that minority voice could have made the difference.

Safe spaces? Literally segregation, but telling them it's for their benefit instead of one's own.

And of course, blowing all these issues out of proportion and encouraging participation in political protests and activism over it, is just another way to keep them out of jobs, where they could earn money and thus better themself. (With the added bonus that then they can claim, "hey, employment for this group is low, better bring in more affirmative action" - rinse and repeat.)

Free education? They're almost invariably channeled into arts or sociology or other degrees that won't actually help them much in the work force - but do a great job of telling them "society won't let you succeed because of your minority status, it's nothing to do with us deliberately setting you up to fail".

Whereas the only thing the conservatives are guilty of is not directly giving a shit.
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ShutTheF---__Up posted...

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

Its starting to seem like the people who see racism in each and every thing are the real racists. You cant be like that without overcompensating for something.

Your inability to read and grasp nuance and context doesn't magically make other people racist. The real world doesn't work that way

The real world disagrees that the term cotton picking is racist outside of a few race baiters. Whose actually racist? The people who dont care and never contextually say anything racist or the people who see race everywhere? Hmmmm. Ironically, the people arguing it is racist dont even know what the term cotton picking even means apparently.

Who said this a couple months ago?

edit: I found it. It was an OKC announcer about Russell Westbrook and he was promptly suspended and not brought back.
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DarkTransient posted...

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

Its starting to seem like the people who see racism in each and every thing are the real racists. You cant be like that without overcompensating for something.

I mean, look at some of the policies they support?

Affirmative action? Y'kno, the law that gives minorities a bit of a step up on the work ladder... but in practice, means they're put into a position they don't yet have the experience for, and will therefore do a poor job of, which both creates a negative image of minorities in the employer's eyes, and guarantees they won't move up to any of the even-higher steps. Compare that to those who avoid taking "advantage" of such policies and instead start at the actual bottom and work their way up - and often end up very successful as a result.

This, combined with encouraging them onto welfare, is in turn designed to keep them in their low-income, minority-dominant areas... away from the rich white people who are doing this "because they care" (actually, because they want to keep them away from themself without being obviously racist).

In some countries, these people push hard for minority groups to have their own seperate polls at the elections. Officially, this is "to ensure their voice is heard" or something. In practice? Those polls are almost always landslide wins, but the general poll that the minority memebers were pulled away from are often very close calls, where that minority voice could have made the difference.

Safe spaces? Literally segregation, but telling them it's for their benefit instead of one's own.

And of course, blowing all these issues out of proportion and encouraging participation in political protests and activism over it, is just another way to keep them out of jobs, where they could earn money and thus better themself. (With the added bonus that then they can claim, "hey, employment for this group is low, better bring in more affirmative action" - rinse and repeat.)

Free education? They're almost invariably channeled into arts or sociology or other degrees that won't actually help them much in the work force - but do a great job of telling them "society won't let you succeed because of your minority status, it's nothing to do with us deliberately setting you up to fail".

Whereas the only thing the conservatives are guilty of is not directly giving a shit.

Exactly. All these SJW types(and im guessing most liberals and most conservatives dont give a crap about these race baiting stories and certainly dont focus on making everything a race issue) are the problem. When ALL you see is race, you become the racist. Fortunately its just a couple extremist wack jobs.

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

Its starting to seem like the people who see racism in each and every thing are the real racists. You cant be like that without overcompensating for something.

I mean, look at some of the policies they support?

Affirmative action? Y'kno, the law that gives minorities a bit of a step up on the work ladder... but in practice, means they're put into a position they don't yet have the experience for, and will therefore do a poor job of, which both creates a negative image of minorities in the employer's eyes, and guarantees they won't move up to any of the even-higher steps. Compare that to those who avoid taking "advantage" of such policies and instead start at the actual bottom and work their way up - and often end up very successful as a result.

This, combined with encouraging them onto welfare, is in turn designed to keep them in their low-income, minority-dominant areas... away from the rich white people who are doing this "because they care" (actually, because they want to keep them away from themself without being obviously racist).

In some countries, these people push hard for minority groups to have their own seperate polls at the elections. Officially, this is "to ensure their voice is heard" or something. In practice? Those polls are almost always landslide wins, but the general poll that the minority memebers were pulled away from are often very close calls, where that minority voice could have made the difference.

Safe spaces? Literally segregation, but telling them it's for their benefit instead of one's own.

And of course, blowing all these issues out of proportion and encouraging participation in political protests and activism over it, is just another way to keep them out of jobs, where they could earn money and thus better themself. (With the added bonus that then they can claim, "hey, employment for this group is low, better bring in more affirmative action" - rinse and repeat.)

Free education? They're almost invariably channeled into arts or sociology or other degrees that won't actually help them much in the work force - but do a great job of telling them "society won't let you succeed because of your minority status, it's nothing to do with us deliberately setting you up to fail".

Whereas the only thing the conservatives are guilty of is not directly giving a shit.

Exactly. All these SJW types(and im guessing most liberals and most conservatives dont give a crap about these race baiting stories and certainly dont focus on making everything a race issue) are the problem. When ALL you see is race, you become the racist. Fortunately its just a couple extremist wack jobs.

I think you underestimate how influential they've become in some circles. But at the same time, people are starting to see through them more and more, and so they're now losing that influence more quickly than they're gaining any. The worst of the storm has passed.
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so I just saw CNN talking about this. they dismissed the idea of him not knowing it was racial with "he's from the North. he knew"

they implied that it's a common saying in the south and that southerners are innocent if they just say it cause they don't realize the history. but that somehow northerners have to know what it means and only say it if they are racist. I myself thought for over 30 years that it was an innocent saying and neve thought about it's origins. and like I posted above, spiderman once said it. and he's always been used as a liberal fighter for people's rights

so unless you think Spiderman is a racist, it's not proof that someone is racist just cause they say a phrase that's just common in american culture. most people don't know what it means.