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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:21:36 PM
#52:


Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...
CableZL posted...
Why do people think making abortions illegal will stop abortions from happening?


Why do people think making murder illegal will stop murder from happening?

How can kill that which has no life?
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
06/27/18 4:21:58 PM
#53:


I don't know what that means or why you said it

EDIT: Oh in case that meant you thought I was saying abortion is murder, that isn't what I was saying. Just pointing out that any crime will still happen regardless of laws. In the case of abortion though it's probably better to keep it legal so people can have it done the safe way.
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MrPeppers
06/27/18 4:22:18 PM
#54:


This qualifies as fearmongering, right?
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Giant_Aspirin
06/27/18 4:22:32 PM
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if Republicans ban abortion then surely they'll implement plans to care for all of those unwanted babies, right? "family values" in action and all that, right?
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BWLurker2
06/27/18 4:23:02 PM
#57:


KhanJohnny posted...
Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.

What's wrong with you?
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D-Lo_BrownTown
06/27/18 4:23:12 PM
#58:


CableZL posted...
Why do people think making abortions illegal will stop abortions from happening?


Probably the same reason people think making any form of gun illegal will stop mass shootings from happening.

Both of these issues are my biggest problem with both sides because the hard stance on both is so fucking dumb.
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CableZL
06/27/18 4:23:34 PM
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Women who want an abortion will still have abortions whether they're legal or not. If illegal, they'll just start harming themselves in hopes of killing the fetus via dangerous methods as opposed to the safer legal methods we have today.
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lordofmud
06/27/18 4:23:54 PM
#61:


Family values means you don't start a family unless you can afford it.
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CableZL
06/27/18 4:25:00 PM
#62:


lordofmud posted...
Family values means you don't start a family unless you can afford it.


Family values means whatever the fuck people want it to mean these days. Plenty of people who preach about "family values" cheat on their wives, get multiple women pregnant while being married, etc.
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KhanJohnny
06/27/18 4:25:35 PM
#63:


BWLurker2 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.

What's wrong with you?

Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.
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MrPeppers
06/27/18 4:25:50 PM
#64:


shockthemonkey posted...
Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...
Does anyone know the statistics on reasons why women get abortions? I'm legitimately asking. Between rape, just don't want to be an adult, and health reasons. Health issues I definitely get and they're pretty much why I'm in the middle and would vote in favor of abortions if I needed to.

Its generally people who didnt want to get pregnant, dont have the means to raise a child, and dont want to or cant physically handle the stress of pregnancy.


Medically indicated abortions (High likelihood of maternal mortality or fetal anomaly not compatible with lif) should not be included in your list.
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BWLurker2
06/27/18 4:25:51 PM
#65:


The idiots who are anti abortion are also anti aid for the kid after its born into a family unable to raise it. Either be pro life all the way or fuck off.
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:26:42 PM
#66:


"Take responsibility for your actions. Only have kids if you can afford them!"

*gets abortion, sparing society and their potential child a bad parent*

"No don't be responsible like that!"
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DifferentialEquation
06/27/18 4:26:44 PM
#67:


Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...
Does anyone know the statistics on reasons why women get abortions? I'm legitimately asking. Between rape, just don't want to be an adult, and health reasons. Health issues I definitely get and they're pretty much why I'm in the middle and would vote in favor of abortions if I needed to.


It gives you a higher status in feminist/SJW circles.
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BWLurker2
06/27/18 4:26:45 PM
#68:


KhanJohnny posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.

What's wrong with you?

Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.

How does what makes those people feel acceptable affect you in any way?
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:28:02 PM
#70:


KhanJohnny posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.

What's wrong with you?

Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.

Good thing the world doesn't operate on what you choose to believe. Trans people literally exist. They are real.
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CyricZ
06/27/18 4:30:11 PM
#71:


Anti-abortion people tend to be against contraception and sex education as well. "Abstinence or raise a baby, you whore."

It's all about controlling sex. Either evangelicals or incels looking to punish women.
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Vindris_SNH
06/27/18 4:30:11 PM
#72:


You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh?
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KhanJohnny
06/27/18 4:30:24 PM
#73:


hockeybub89 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.

What's wrong with you?

Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.

Good thing the world doesn't operate on what you choose to believe. Trans people literally exist. They are real.

I know they exist. As do people that believe they would be more "whole" if they had an arm or leg amputated. We normally attempt to treat such people instead of chopping off limbs. Seems we do the opposite for trans people.
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/18 4:30:53 PM
#74:


DifferentialEquation posted...
I'd love to see Roe v Wade overturned as payback for all the times the left has tried to infringe on the second amendment (including proposing bills that would ban most, of not all, semi-autos).

Now that's just petty.
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Webmaster4531
06/27/18 4:30:56 PM
#75:


@Vindris_SNH posted...
You conservatives sure do love dead women, eh?

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Abyssea
06/27/18 4:31:00 PM
#76:


Vindris_SNH posted...
You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh?


I just believe in a woman's bodily autonomy.
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CyricZ
06/27/18 4:31:13 PM
#77:


KhanJohnny posted...
As do people that believe they would be more "whole" if they had an arm or leg amputated.

Uh, source?
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:31:35 PM
#78:


Vindris_SNH posted...
You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh?

But Democrats want to keep abortion legal, so what the fuck is this question?
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Nomadic View
06/27/18 4:32:37 PM
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I seriously doubt either one is going anywhere.
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creativerealms
06/27/18 4:32:40 PM
#80:


DundiesAward posted...
PiOverlord posted...
I'll cheer and throw a party when Roe v. Wade is eliminated.

Sad.
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CableZL
06/27/18 4:33:00 PM
#81:


hockeybub89 posted...
But Democrats want to keep abortion legal, so what the f*** is this question?


So that women don't have to resort to harming themselves if they want/need one. Pregnancy mortality rates are higher in areas with stricter abortion laws.
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KhanJohnny
06/27/18 4:33:07 PM
#82:


CyricZ posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
As do people that believe they would be more "whole" if they had an arm or leg amputated.

Uh, source?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_identity_disorder
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:33:08 PM
#83:


KhanJohnny posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.

What's wrong with you?

Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.

Good thing the world doesn't operate on what you choose to believe. Trans people literally exist. They are real.

I know they exist. As do people that believe they would be more "whole" if they had an arm or leg amputated. We normally attempt to treat such people instead of chopping off limbs. Seems we do the opposite for trans people.

Maybe doctors know more than your feelings. What you think or what you used to be taught doesn't matter. We learn about our world every day. Adapt or get left behind.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/27/18 4:34:00 PM
#84:


KhanJohnny posted...
Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...
Does anyone know the statistics on reasons why women get abortions? I'm legitimately asking. Between rape, just don't want to be an adult, and health reasons. Health issues I definitely get and they're pretty much why I'm in the middle and would vote in favor of abortions if I needed to.

It's like 90% don't want to be an adult


What do you mean by this?
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Vindris_SNH
06/27/18 4:34:25 PM
#85:


BWLurker2 posted...
The idiots who are anti abortion are also anti aid for the kid after its born into a family unable to raise it. Either be pro life all the way or fuck off.


CyricZ posted...
Anti-abortion people tend to be against contraception and sex education as well. "Abstinence or raise a baby, you whore."

It's all about controlling sex. Either evangelicals or incels looking to punish women.


These ideas are entirely untrue, and placed into your head by a biased media.
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creativerealms
06/27/18 4:34:54 PM
#86:


Really the more the religious right fight progress the more they doom themselves in the end. America is getting less religious and they know it.
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KhanJohnny
06/27/18 4:35:53 PM
#87:


hockeybub89 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.

What's wrong with you?

Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.

Good thing the world doesn't operate on what you choose to believe. Trans people literally exist. They are real.

I know they exist. As do people that believe they would be more "whole" if they had an arm or leg amputated. We normally attempt to treat such people instead of chopping off limbs. Seems we do the opposite for trans people.

Maybe doctors know more than your feelings. What you think or what you used to be taught doesn't matter. We learn about our world every day. Adapt or get left behind.

Doctors nor science have the definition of what Men or Women are. It's not a purely scientific nor medical question.
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Vindris_SNH
06/27/18 4:36:26 PM
#88:


Abyssea posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh?


I just believe in a woman's bodily autonomy.


Yeah because that baby forced its way inside her and FUCK THAT BASTARD!
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:36:54 PM
#89:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...
Does anyone know the statistics on reasons why women get abortions? I'm legitimately asking. Between rape, just don't want to be an adult, and health reasons. Health issues I definitely get and they're pretty much why I'm in the middle and would vote in favor of abortions if I needed to.

It's like 90% don't want to be an adult


What do you mean by this?

I don't know what's wrong with him. I see adults every day that I wish had done the childish thing and gotten abortion because they should not be raising goddamn children, now or possibly ever. They're being the opposite of responsible. Children don't make people good adults, but good adults make good children.
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:39:56 PM
#90:


KhanJohnny posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.

What's wrong with you?

Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.

Good thing the world doesn't operate on what you choose to believe. Trans people literally exist. They are real.

I know they exist. As do people that believe they would be more "whole" if they had an arm or leg amputated. We normally attempt to treat such people instead of chopping off limbs. Seems we do the opposite for trans people.

Maybe doctors know more than your feelings. What you think or what you used to be taught doesn't matter. We learn about our world every day. Adapt or get left behind.

Doctors nor science have the definition of what Men or Women are. It's not a purely scientific nor medical question.

If that was the case, then I really can't see how you think your beliefs should be law. You're getting into feelings and metaphysical concepts.

"Men and women can't feel like the opposite sex! Science can't prove it, but I have a good feeling!"
I will say that this is a fresh take on trans people I haven't seen before. Usually people erroneously cite science.
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Minute
06/27/18 4:40:58 PM
#91:


Abyssea posted...
that'd just make the evangelicals even happier!

It's weird how evangelicals, and the tea party in general, are the fucking absolute fucking antithesis of so many Christian values.
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CyricZ
06/27/18 4:41:32 PM
#93:


KhanJohnny posted...
CyricZ posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
As do people that believe they would be more "whole" if they had an arm or leg amputated.

Uh, source?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_identity_disorder

Huh. How 'bout that.

Vindris_SNH posted...
These ideas are entirely untrue, and placed into your head by a biased media.

News flash dude. Just because women don't want to have sex with you, doesn't mean you should punish the rest of us.
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:42:17 PM
#94:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Abyssea posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh?


I just believe in a woman's bodily autonomy.


Yeah because that baby forced its way inside her and FUCK THAT BASTARD!

Why would a baby be inside a woman? It's already a baby.
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Vindris_SNH
06/27/18 4:42:55 PM
#95:


CyricZ posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
CyricZ posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
As do people that believe they would be more "whole" if they had an arm or leg amputated.

Uh, source?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_identity_disorder

Huh. How 'bout that.

Vindris_SNH posted...
These ideas are entirely untrue, and placed into your head by a biased media.

News flash dude. Just because women don't want to have sex with you, doesn't mean you should punish the rest of us.


NEWSFLASH: I'm a married man. I have sex regularly.
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 4:43:59 PM
#96:


Vindris_SNH posted...
NEWSFLASH: I'm a married man. I have sex regularly.

Then stop trying to take bodily autonomy away from women. You know a woman.
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Vindris_SNH
06/27/18 4:44:52 PM
#97:


hockeybub89 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Abyssea posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh?


I just believe in a woman's bodily autonomy.


Yeah because that baby forced its way inside her and FUCK THAT BASTARD!

Why would a baby be inside a woman? It's already a baby.


Whoooaaa, semantics! You got me there.

FUCK THAT NEWLY FORMED HUMAN LIFE THAT FORCED ITS OWN WAY INSIDE THAT POOR WOMAN!
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UnholyMudcrab
06/27/18 4:45:11 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/27/18 4:45:29 PM
#99:


Vindris_SNH posted...
BWLurker2 posted...
The idiots who are anti abortion are also anti aid for the kid after its born into a family unable to raise it. Either be pro life all the way or fuck off.


CyricZ posted...
Anti-abortion people tend to be against contraception and sex education as well. "Abstinence or raise a baby, you whore."

It's all about controlling sex. Either evangelicals or incels looking to punish women.


These ideas are entirely untrue, and placed into your head by a biased media.


You are blatantly lying.
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Vindris_SNH
06/27/18 4:46:02 PM
#100:


hockeybub89 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
NEWSFLASH: I'm a married man. I have sex regularly.

Then stop trying to take bodily autonomy away from women. You know a woman.


9 months of bodily autonomy VS an entire life

Makes sense
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/27/18 4:46:26 PM
#101:


Vindris_SNH posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Abyssea posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh?


I just believe in a woman's bodily autonomy.


Yeah because that baby forced its way inside her and FUCK THAT BASTARD!

Why would a baby be inside a woman? It's already a baby.


Whoooaaa, semantics! You got me there.

FUCK THAT NEWLY FORMED HUMAN LIFE THAT FORCED ITS OWN WAY INSIDE THAT POOR WOMAN!


Oh look, an anti-abortion person melting down about abortion. Sad!
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