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Damn_Underscore
06/28/18 1:22:04 PM
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etc.

Going by his selection of Gorsuch there's no reason to think that Trump wouldn't select another Constitutional conservative justice.
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FLUFFYGERM
06/28/18 1:22:53 PM
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because hyper partisan media has brainwashed people into being paranoid extremists who exaggerate nonstop
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
06/28/18 1:23:22 PM
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Kennedy is more or less a moderate. His swing vote was important in holding up Roe vs. Wade for example.

Trump being able to put in another hard right judge is going to be bad. Really bad
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Bloodychess
06/28/18 1:23:50 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
because hyper partisan media has brainwashed people into being paranoid extremists who exaggerate nonstop

i really like this post
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Shuto-uke
06/28/18 1:23:58 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
etc.

Going by his selection of Gorsuch there's no reason to think that Trump wouldn't select another Constitutional conservative justice.


because most hyper conservative decisions have been 5-4 with kennedy being a swing vote?
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HypnoCoosh
06/28/18 1:24:20 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
because hyper partisan media has brainwashed people into being paranoid extremists who exaggerate nonstop

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UnfairRepresent
06/28/18 1:24:26 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
because hyper partisan media has brainwashed people into being paranoid extremists who exaggerate nonstop

Erm

Trump is president

Brexit is happening

Trump is defending Russia, China and North Korea while attacking his own allies, Canada, UK, Japan, South Korea.

How are they exaggerating? This shit is legit happening as we speak
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Shuto-uke
06/28/18 1:26:36 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
because hyper partisan media has brainwashed people into being paranoid extremists who exaggerate nonstop

i really like this post


You need to look up at Gorsuch's opinions so far then
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Questionmarktarius
06/28/18 1:30:04 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
How are they exaggerating?

The worst case scenario for Roe is having to buy a bus ticket. The absolute-goddamn-nightmare scenario would be "traveling with intent to" laws, and even then only due to selective enforcement.

Obergefell is going to be the shitstorm, but mostly just in the south and maybe Utah. There's already enough inertia to prevent much of a disaster elsewhere.
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Damn_Underscore
06/28/18 4:53:28 PM
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bump
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TheVipaGTS
06/28/18 4:56:55 PM
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Because both of those are key issues that the Republican Party are trying to reverse. Theyll likely nominate a conservative judge who will agree with them. My hope is that whoever gets nominated has integrity...
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Giant_Aspirin
06/28/18 4:57:04 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Going by his selection of Gorsuch there's no reason to think that Trump wouldn't select another Constitutional conservative justice.


right, and another Conservative on the court could spell the end for Roe v Wade and the gay marriage ruling aka that's exactly why people are saying "no more abortion, no more gay marriage"
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Colorahdo
06/28/18 4:59:19 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
because hyper partisan media has brainwashed people into being paranoid extremists who exaggerate nonstop

Erm

Trump is president

Brexit is happening

Trump is defending Russia, China and North Korea while attacking his own allies, Canada, UK, Japan, South Korea.

How are they exaggerating? This shit is legit happening as we speak


There was literally almost a world wide nuclear war from 1945-1990 while the US and Russia secretly overthrew the governments of the world, and now the world is in shambles because the US has a president you don't like?

This is a great, peaceful and progressive time in world history
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creativerealms
06/28/18 4:59:33 PM
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Because the right have been waiting for this day since Trump took office. The whole reason they needed to stop Obama from appointing a judge and needed to stop Clinton was for this moment. They are on the verge of their greatest victory. There is no way Trump will choose a moderate.

Anyway same sex marriage might be safe for now but abortion? The right have been trying to get rid of it for decades. It will happen now.
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gunplagirl
06/28/18 5:04:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
How are they exaggerating?

The worst case scenario for Roe is having to buy a bus ticket. The absolute-goddamn-nightmare scenario would be "traveling with intent to" laws, and even then only due to selective enforcement.

Obergefell is going to be the shitstorm, but mostly just in the south and maybe Utah. There's already enough inertia to prevent much of a disaster elsewhere.


Ah yes because people can, on a limb, travel to another state for several days to get an abortion, and have a hotel room paid for as they wait.

Oh, no. That's only typically people who already have money to begin with.
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Polycosm
06/28/18 5:06:52 PM
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/john-roberts-will-probably-be-the-supreme-courts-next-swing-justice
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Damn_Underscore
06/28/18 5:09:29 PM
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^I really wish all of those dots were annotated
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BWLurker
06/28/18 5:19:59 PM
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Polycosm posted...
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/john-roberts-will-probably-be-the-supreme-courts-next-swing-justice

Yeah, Roberts DID swing in the recent decision to require cops to get a warrant for looking at cell phone data. Conservatives wanted to give cops more authority there.

Hardiman also seems like a reasonable choice for justice. Much, much better pick than crazy Pryor or the moron Newsom who compared abortion to slavery
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Patty_Fleur
06/28/18 5:21:56 PM
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I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.
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StucklnMyPants
06/28/18 5:23:25 PM
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Gay marriage isn't going anywhere. Even a lot of religious people that don't agree with it can't come up with a good excuse as to why two adults should or shouldn't be able to do what they want with each other, nor why they shouldn't be able to do what everyone else can already do. If you think it logically through, you can't reach the conclusion that the government has the right to impose what is effectively religious values on individuals, especially while considering that the U.S. government is setup to be free from religion. The only way to reconcile that would be to get government out of the business of marriage altogether, but that probably won't happen either.

Abortion could change, but honestly I'm too cynical to see it happen. It's going to be really tough to take it away when it's been legal for so long. A lot of people view it as an inherent right, so that going to be an uphill battle, even if you technically have the votes to change it.

Even if Trump does pick someone that is super conservative, I honestly can't see these issues gaining much traction.
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33
06/28/18 5:24:22 PM
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Only reason Republicans stopped basing their platforms on gay marriage is that they knew they were powerless to stop it. Now theyre not.
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glitteringfairy
06/28/18 5:24:35 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Kennedy is more or less a moderate. His swing vote was important in holding up Roe vs. Wade for example.

Trump being able to put in another hard right judge is going to be bad. Really bad

Bad for who exactly
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sktgamer_13dude
06/28/18 5:25:00 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?
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Giant_Aspirin
06/28/18 5:25:50 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Why.


he wants attention
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BWLurker
06/28/18 5:25:54 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Kennedy is more or less a moderate. His swing vote was important in holding up Roe vs. Wade for example.

Trump being able to put in another hard right judge is going to be bad. Really bad

Bad for who exactly

If he gets Pryor or Newsom in there, bad for human rights and common decency
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Balrog0
06/28/18 5:26:38 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
Abortion could change, but honestly I'm too cynical to see it happen. It's going to be really tough to take it away when it's been legal for so long. A lot of people view it as an inherent right, so that going to be an uphill battle, even if you technically have the votes to change it.


red states attempt to legislate against abortion literally every year, bro

if the courts decided it went back to the states, several states would outlaw it
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The_Juice_
06/28/18 5:27:30 PM
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Few things upset me more than the fact that the group who vote on the most important cases in our country get lifetime appointments to (almost always) vote strictly down party lines on things.
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TheGoldenEel
06/28/18 5:27:32 PM
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BWLurker posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Kennedy is more or less a moderate. His swing vote was important in holding up Roe vs. Wade for example.

Trump being able to put in another hard right judge is going to be bad. Really bad

Bad for who exactly

If he gets Pryor or Newsom in there, bad for human rights and common decency

Believe it or not there are still republicans out there who think theyre on the right side of history
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emblem boy
06/28/18 5:28:18 PM
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I would think gay marriage is one that could be easily pushed though state or national legislative branches.

The abortion one would be more difficult
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Patty_Fleur
06/28/18 5:28:54 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?


What if I have a son. And he lives in a world where being gay is common and accepted and because he sees them getting married he turns out gay. I don't want a gay son.

If I had a daughter I don't care if she is gay or straight though. I just don't want a gay or bi son.

It might be completely immoral for me to think that way but meh...its how I feel.
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The Great Muta 22
06/28/18 5:30:40 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?


What if I have a son. And he lives in a world where being gay is common and accepted and because he sees them getting married he turns out gay. I don't want a gay son.

If I had a daughter I don't care if she is gay or straight though. I just don't want a gay or bi son.

It might be completely immoral for me to think that way but meh...its how I feel.


I feel bad for your hypothetical kids
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ProbablyaCat
06/28/18 5:32:15 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?


What if I have a son. And he lives in a world where being gay is common and accepted and because he sees them getting married he turns out gay. I don't want a gay son.

If I had a daughter I don't care if she is gay or straight though. I just don't want a gay or bi son.

It might be completely immoral for me to think that way but meh...its how I feel.


I feel bad for your hypothetical kids
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Patty_Fleur
06/28/18 5:32:40 PM
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Id love my kids as much as one could. But if they don't turn out the way I want, they are on their own once their 18.
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BWLurker
06/28/18 5:33:27 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?


What if I have a son. And he lives in a world where being gay is common and accepted and because he sees them getting married he turns out gay. I don't want a gay son.

If I had a daughter I don't care if she is gay or straight though. I just don't want a gay or bi son.

It might be completely immoral for me to think that way but meh...its how I feel.

Not sure if trolling or just really, REALLY stupid

Do you also believe you can "catch the gay"?
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Blue_Inigo
06/28/18 5:34:37 PM
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You were talking about fucking dudes the other day. You arent having kids
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Patty_Fleur
06/28/18 5:34:51 PM
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BWLurker posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?


What if I have a son. And he lives in a world where being gay is common and accepted and because he sees them getting married he turns out gay. I don't want a gay son.

If I had a daughter I don't care if she is gay or straight though. I just don't want a gay or bi son.

It might be completely immoral for me to think that way but meh...its how I feel.

Not sure if trolling or just really, REALLY stupid

Do you also believe you can "catch the gay"?


No. But culture affects sexuality. Look at ancient Greece. If you want gay to be the norm it's entirely possible to do so (I believe).
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voldothegr8
06/28/18 5:37:38 PM
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Because liberals are a bunch of Chicken Littles who overreact to everything not going their way.
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Genocet_10-325
06/28/18 5:38:04 PM
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BWLurker posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?


What if I have a son. And he lives in a world where being gay is common and accepted and because he sees them getting married he turns out gay. I don't want a gay son.

If I had a daughter I don't care if she is gay or straight though. I just don't want a gay or bi son.

It might be completely immoral for me to think that way but meh...its how I feel.

Not sure if trolling or just really, REALLY stupid

Do you also believe you can "catch the gay"?

Patty is trolling. His gimmick changes every week
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creativerealms
06/28/18 5:45:56 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?


What if I have a son. And he lives in a world where being gay is common and accepted and because he sees them getting married he turns out gay. I don't want a gay son.

If I had a daughter I don't care if she is gay or straight though. I just don't want a gay or bi son.

It might be completely immoral for me to think that way but meh...its how I feel.

It's not a choice. If your son ends up being one of the three percent or so of homesexuals nothing will change that. Sorry.
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BWLurker
06/28/18 5:46:40 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
I would be happy if gay marriage was abolished to be honest. It won't happen though.

Why.

It literally doesn't affect you, so why shouldn't gays be allowed to get married?


What if I have a son. And he lives in a world where being gay is common and accepted and because he sees them getting married he turns out gay. I don't want a gay son.

If I had a daughter I don't care if she is gay or straight though. I just don't want a gay or bi son.

It might be completely immoral for me to think that way but meh...its how I feel.

It's not a choice. If your son ends up being one of the three percent or so of homesexuals nothing will change that. Sorry.

Fortunately, I doubt he'll ever get the chance to reproduce
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Tmaster148
06/28/18 5:48:33 PM
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Republicans have been trying to get an abortion case to the supreme court to overturn roe v wade for a while now. Now that Kennedy retire they'll have a stacked court with whoever Trump appoints in their favor making any future abortion cases likely to overturn roe v wade.
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creativerealms
06/28/18 5:49:52 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Because liberals are a bunch of Chicken Littles who overreact to everything not going their way.

Yep with our talk of deep states, people coming door to door to take our guns and FEMA death camps we liberals are the chicken littles. Wait that's conservatives.

The people in charge have been talking about it for decades how they would ban abortion. They have never hid that intent. It's a logical conclusion not a crazy conspiracy.
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Tyranthraxus
06/28/18 5:53:45 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
etc.

Going by his selection of Gorsuch there's no reason to think that Trump wouldn't select another Constitutional conservative justice.

Gorsuch was selected predominantly for his views on Abortion.

Trump absolutely believes in Abortion as a SCOTUS litmus test.
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8-bit_Biceps
06/28/18 6:12:18 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
because hyper partisan media has brainwashed people into being paranoid extremists who exaggerate nonstop

Erm

Trump is president

Brexit is happening

Trump is defending Russia, China and North Korea while attacking his own allies, Canada, UK, Japan, South Korea.

How are they exaggerating? This shit is legit happening as we speak


There was literally almost a world wide nuclear war from 1945-1990 while the US and Russia secretly overthrew the governments of the world, and now the world is in shambles because the US has a president you don't like?

This is a great, peaceful and progressive time in world history


But the doomsday clock is closer to midnight than it has been in like 50+ years or something and we have a dumbass, immoral, greedy fiend in office propping up the party that believes in 1st century Jesus propaganda. Come on. This is all just a religious war isn't it? In 2008 like 2/3 of republicans accepted evolution. In 4 years it went down to a third and then only Jeb Bush of the 17 republican candidates accepted it in 2016. It's like the Internet has fucked the dumb people so much they have to be dumber to feel good.
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Unknown5uspect
06/28/18 6:25:55 PM
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8-bit_Biceps posted...
It's like the Internet has fucked the dumb people so much they have to be dumber to feel good.

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