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DiegoSanchez206 06/29/18 1:27:13 PM #101:	Abyssea posted... Mal_Fet posted... Abyssea posted... fetuses don't have more rights than the women carrying them. that's a stupid idea. Life is a right. Abortion is not. you can't force someone to carry a baby they don't want. Crazy how many irresponsible women there are. --- Down goes Ohio State! https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:904191222] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>fetuses don't have more rights than the women carrying them. that's a stupid idea.</quote> Life is a right. Abortion is not.</quote> you can't force someone to carry a baby they don't want.</quote> Crazy how many irresponsible women there are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 06/29/18 1:27:38 PM #102:	I like how you people suddenly give a damn about the alternatives when the adoption agencies are underfunded, under staffed and often over stuffed with kids nobody wants. So what you people are going to cause are more people to grow up without a place to go or be anything but a homeless person and or criminal. What the hell kind of life is that to live? --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:904191253] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote>I like how you people suddenly give a damn about the alternatives when the adoption agencies are underfunded, under staffed and often over stuffed with kids nobody wants. So what you people are going to cause are more people to grow up without a place to go or be anything but a homeless person and or criminal. What the hell kind of life is that to live?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 06/29/18 1:28:18 PM #104:	Asherlee10 posted... On this point, I think once technology has advanced that we can grow a fetus in an artificial womb, we will see a sharp drop in abortion. I agree. it seems like the most elegant solution so long as we have a strong support system that can provide for the children who don't get adopted I also wonder if there will be women who get shamed for choosing to grow their child in an artificial womb but still want to raise it once it's born --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:904191281] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>On this point, I think once technology has advanced that we can grow a fetus in an artificial womb, we will see a sharp drop in abortion. </quote> I agree. it seems like the most elegant solution so long as we have a strong support system that can provide for the children who don't get adopted I also wonder if there will be women who get shamed for choosing to grow their child in an artificial womb but still want to raise it once it's born</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 06/29/18 1:30:52 PM #106:	Abortion is being responsible, the system doesn't have to pay for a kid nobody wants and a kid doesn't have to live a life of suffering. But Republicans don't care about that, they care about punishment and pretending they give a shit about the sanity of life never mind that once that life is born they go back to blaming the kid or telling the kid to blame their parents for their fucked up life. What a joke. --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:904191429] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote>Abortion is being responsible, the system doesn't have to pay for a kid nobody wants and a kid doesn't have to live a life of suffering. But Republicans don't care about that, they care about punishment and pretending they give a shit about the sanity of life never mind that once that life is born they go back to blaming the kid or telling the kid to blame their parents for their fucked up life. What a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 06/29/18 1:31:11 PM #107:	Asherlee10 posted... Why do you keep trying to set aside rights for those with personhood? Unborn babies have personhood. One could say you're the one denying people's personhood. Asherlee10 posted... A child is a person, a fetus does not have personhood (usually because of viability), therefore does not have the same rights as someone with personhood status (men, women, children). Viability has never been an argument for whether it is ok to kill someone. When my uncle was diagnosed with ALS, my aunt had to devote a lot of time, and higher insurance premiums, to take care of him. Could she kill him because he was a burden on her and he wasn't "viable"? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:904191449] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Why do you keep trying to set aside rights for those with personhood?</quote> Unborn babies have personhood. One could say you're the one denying people's personhood. <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>A child is a person, a fetus does not have personhood (usually because of viability), therefore does not have the same rights as someone with personhood status (men, women, children).</quote> Viability has never been an argument for whether it is ok to kill someone. When my uncle was diagnosed with ALS, my aunt had to devote a lot of time, and higher insurance premiums, to take care of him. Could she kill him because he was a burden on her and he wasn't "viable"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 06/29/18 1:31:20 PM #108:	MC_BatCommander posted... Southernfatman posted... Y'all know Mal and others of his I'll are just trying to yank y'all's chain and make you mad right? Of course they're going to be hypocritical and so on Never saw the point in trying to convince them of anything or troll them back. This, idk why people on this board get baited so easily. The same exact people have been trolling this board for so fucking long I find it somewhat humorous tbh --- https://imgur.com/3Iqe55A <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:904191456] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Y'all know Mal and others of his I'll are just trying to yank y'all's chain and make you mad right? Of course they're going to be hypocritical and so on Never saw the point in trying to convince them of anything or troll them back.</quote> This, idk why people on this board get baited so easily. The same exact people have been trolling this board for so fucking long</quote> I find it somewhat humorous tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/29/18 1:31:20 PM #109:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... Abyssea posted... Mal_Fet posted... Abyssea posted... fetuses don't have more rights than the women carrying them. that's a stupid idea. Life is a right. Abortion is not. you can't force someone to carry a baby they don't want. Crazy how many irresponsible women there are. maybe so, that doesn't mean we get to revoke their bodily autonomy just so we can feel morally superior. They're human beings, not baby incubators. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904191458] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>fetuses don't have more rights than the women carrying them. that's a stupid idea.</quote> Life is a right. Abortion is not.</quote> you can't force someone to carry a baby they don't want.</quote> Crazy how many irresponsible women there are.</quote> maybe so, that doesn't mean we get to revoke their bodily autonomy just so we can feel morally superior. They're human beings, not baby incubators.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 06/29/18 1:31:59 PM #110:	Asherlee10 posted... Instead of attacking the merits of my points, you decided to try to attack me personally. Why? This post of yours is a lot less believable after you called me a gimmick earlier. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:904191499] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Instead of attacking the merits of my points, you decided to try to attack me personally. Why?</quote> This post of yours is a lot less believable after you called me a gimmick earlier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DiegoSanchez206 06/29/18 1:33:00 PM #112:	Asherlee10 posted... DiegoSanchez206 posted... Crazy how many irresponsible women there are. Get out of here with that bullshit. Im not trying to hurt your feelings. Its the truth. You are all about abortions but not about responsibility? This is weird. --- Down goes Ohio State! https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:904191559] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted...</cite> <quote>Crazy how many irresponsible women there are.</quote> Get out of here with that bullshit.</quote> Im not trying to hurt your feelings. Its the truth. You are all about abortions but not about responsibility? This is weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 06/29/18 1:33:04 PM #113:	I always wonder how many women regret abortions and what it does to them psychologically. I've seen what miscarriage can do to a woman it's pretty sad. I just wish they would educate woman prior to just thinking it's not a big deal flushing your baby down the toilet. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:904191564] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote>I always wonder how many women regret abortions and what it does to them psychologically. I've seen what miscarriage can do to a woman it's pretty sad. I just wish they would educate woman prior to just thinking it's not a big deal flushing your baby down the toilet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 06/29/18 1:33:53 PM #115:	Sorry, you republicans only believe in abstance only education when it comes to sex so that'll never happen. --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:904191614] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote>Sorry, you republicans only believe in abstance only education when it comes to sex so that'll never happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 06/29/18 1:34:54 PM #117:	tremain07 posted... I like how you people suddenly give a damn about the alternatives when the adoption agencies are underfunded, under staffed and often over stuffed with kids nobody wants. So what you people are going to cause are more people to grow up without a place to go or be anything but a homeless person and or criminal. What the hell kind of life is that to live? There aren't enough street urchins roaming around anymore. We need chimneys to be swept and we've gotta start getting people to take that job again now that we're going after immigrants more hardcore. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:904191668] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>I like how you people suddenly give a damn about the alternatives when the adoption agencies are underfunded, under staffed and often over stuffed with kids nobody wants. So what you people are going to cause are more people to grow up without a place to go or be anything but a homeless person and or criminal. What the hell kind of life is that to live?</quote> There aren't enough street urchins roaming around anymore. We need chimneys to be swept and we've gotta start getting people to take that job again now that we're going after immigrants more hardcore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hinakuluiau 06/29/18 1:35:30 PM #119:	Mal_Fet posted... When my uncle was diagnosed with ALS, my aunt had to devote a lot of time, and higher insurance premiums, to take care of him. Could she kill him because he was a burden on her and he wasn't "viable"? This isn't a good argument when a lot of people who are pro-choice also support universal healthcare. There would be no additional burden if we had that. HypnoCoosh posted... I always wonder how many women regret abortions and what it does to them psychologically. I've seen what miscarriage can do to a woman it's pretty sad. I just wish they would educate woman prior to just thinking it's not a big deal flushing your baby down the toilet. They do. There's a reason there's a 24 hour window between mandatory consultation. For some women, they feel the pain of the abortion for the rest of their lives. For others, they never think of it. For most it's somewhere in between. Abortion isn't really comparable to a miscarriage. In one they chose to end the pregnancy, in the other they were actively trying and suffered because of it. It's why killing a pregnant woman can be a double homocide, intent and context matter. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:904191695] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>When my uncle was diagnosed with ALS, my aunt had to devote a lot of time, and higher insurance premiums, to take care of him. Could she kill him because he was a burden on her and he wasn't "viable"?</quote> This isn't a good argument when a lot of people who are pro-choice also support universal healthcare. There would be no additional burden if we had that. <cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>I always wonder how many women regret abortions and what it does to them psychologically. I've seen what miscarriage can do to a woman it's pretty sad. I just wish they would educate woman prior to just thinking it's not a big deal flushing your baby down the toilet.</quote> They do. There's a reason there's a 24 hour window between mandatory consultation. For some women, they feel the pain of the abortion for the rest of their lives. For others, they never think of it. For most it's somewhere in between. Abortion isn't really comparable to a miscarriage. In one they chose to end the pregnancy, in the other they were actively trying and suffered because of it. It's why killing a pregnant woman can be a double homocide, intent and context matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/29/18 1:35:46 PM #120:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... Asherlee10 posted... One is a developed human who can survive outside of the womb (sometimes with medical assistance), the other is not a developed human who cannot survive outside of the womb, even with medical assistance and does not have the same rights as the mother (for good reason). A newborn baby also can't live without it's mother (or surrogate). It's well-documented that babies need human contact or they run a serious risk of dying. Hell some kids can't survive without their mom until they're into their 30's. Your distinction seems pretty ad hoc. How are your posts getting stupider? That's the secret. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:904191710] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> One is a developed human who can survive outside of the womb (sometimes with medical assistance), the other is not a developed human who cannot survive outside of the womb, even with medical assistance and does not have the same rights as the mother (for good reason). </quote> A newborn baby also can't live without it's mother (or surrogate). It's well-documented that babies need human contact or they run a serious risk of dying. Hell some kids can't survive without their mom until they're into their 30's. Your distinction seems pretty ad hoc.</quote> How are your posts getting stupider?</quote> That's the secret.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/29/18 1:36:24 PM #121:	HypnoCoosh posted... I always wonder how many women regret abortions and what it does to them psychologically. I've seen what miscarriage can do to a woman it's pretty sad. I just wish they would educate woman prior to just thinking it's not a big deal flushing your baby down the toilet. I really doubt early abortions get people that emotional. It'd be like mourning the stuff you find on a used tampon. you guys are drama queens honestly. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904191736] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>I always wonder how many women regret abortions and what it does to them psychologically. I've seen what miscarriage can do to a woman it's pretty sad. I just wish they would educate woman prior to just thinking it's not a big deal flushing your baby down the toilet.</quote> I really doubt early abortions get people that emotional. It'd be like mourning the stuff you find on a used tampon. you guys are drama queens honestly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 06/29/18 1:38:29 PM #122:	It's surprising that the question of personal responsibility arises so often in a conversation where the main concern is supposedly about murder. It would be like if, when talking about actual murders, we were also weirdly hung up about them properly sanitizing their murder weapons. Just kind of makes it seem like "murder" is more of a buzzword in this case than a serious thought. Or perhaps it results from the argument's inability to convince that people feel compelled to drudge up the question of responsibility in its place. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:904191860] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote>It's surprising that the question of personal responsibility arises so often in a conversation where the main concern is supposedly about murder. It would be like if, when talking about actual murders, we were also weirdly hung up about them properly sanitizing their murder weapons. Just kind of makes it seem like "murder" is more of a buzzword in this case than a serious thought. Or perhaps it results from the argument's inability to convince that people feel compelled to drudge up the question of responsibility in its place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/29/18 1:38:45 PM #123:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... They will be a child What they will be is irrelevant. The abortion is performed on them as they are now. Not in 6 years. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:904191878] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted...</cite> <quote>They will be a child</quote> What they will be is irrelevant. The abortion is performed on them as they are now. Not in 6 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 06/29/18 1:39:06 PM #124:	Asherlee10 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Asherlee10 posted... Instead of attacking the merits of my points, you decided to try to attack me personally. Why? This post of yours is a lot less believable after you called me a gimmick earlier. No, I don't think it is because I've seen the history you've had on CE. This isn't some baseless claim. You weren't this unreasonable in the past. Diego threw his hands in the air when he was challenged. Lol. No. You believe women have rights to kill babies. Even if you disagree that fetuses wont become babies, you are still a cold and callous person to believe this is ok. But again, you do you. There will be an abundance of abortions today and I know this pleases you. There will be thousands of irresponsible women impregnated today as well. Theyll get their abortions and you can celebrate. --- Down goes Ohio State! https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:904191896] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Instead of attacking the merits of my points, you decided to try to attack me personally. Why?</quote> This post of yours is a lot less believable after you called me a gimmick earlier.</quote> No, I don't think it is because I've seen the history you've had on CE. This isn't some baseless claim. You weren't this unreasonable in the past. Diego threw his hands in the air when he was challenged.</quote> Lol. No. You believe women have rights to kill babies. Even if you disagree that fetuses wont become babies, you are still a cold and callous person to believe this is ok. But again, you do you. There will be an abundance of abortions today and I know this pleases you. There will be thousands of irresponsible women impregnated today as well. Theyll get their abortions and you can celebrate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 06/29/18 1:39:10 PM #125:	Abyssea posted... you guys are drama queens honestly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7e2GDiEMM" data-time=" --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:904191902] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>you guys are drama queens honestly.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7e2GDiEMM" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 06/29/18 1:39:23 PM #126:	Asherlee10 posted... No, I don't think it is because I've seen the history you've had on CE. This isn't some baseless claim. You weren't this unreasonable in the past. I frankly don't see how it's unreasonable to accept that there's no compelling difference between a fetus and a newborn. Both are humans, neither are fully developed, both need others to survive, and both exist through no fault of their own. Only one though do people make the case that it's ok to kill, and frankly the reason seems to have more to do with denial for convenience's sake and less to do with hard-line distinctions. Anyway, I don;t want to give the wrong impression, I actually do think abortion should be legal for practicality's sake. At the end of the day, you can't ban something that a lot of people want, like alcohol, drugs, or guns. I just find abortion to be especially reprehensible. But again, the purpose of this topic is to point out that Roe v Wade being overturned will not bad abortion across the country, so people should stop flipping out. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:904191912] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>No, I don't think it is because I've seen the history you've had on CE. This isn't some baseless claim. You weren't this unreasonable in the past. </quote> I frankly don't see how it's unreasonable to accept that there's no compelling difference between a fetus and a newborn. Both are humans, neither are fully developed, both need others to survive, and both exist through no fault of their own. Only one though do people make the case that it's ok to kill, and frankly the reason seems to have more to do with denial for convenience's sake and less to do with hard-line distinctions. Anyway, I don;t want to give the wrong impression, I actually do think abortion should be legal for practicality's sake. At the end of the day, you can't ban something that a lot of people want, like alcohol, drugs, or guns. I just find abortion to be especially reprehensible. But again, the purpose of this topic is to point out that Roe v Wade being overturned will not bad abortion across the country, so people should stop flipping out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/29/18 1:39:59 PM #128:	Mal_Fet posted... When my uncle was diagnosed with ALS, my aunt had to devote a lot of time, and higher insurance premiums, to take care of him. Could she kill him because he was a burden on her and he wasn't "viable"? She did have the right to, for instance, divorce him and let him take care of himself or find other arrangements. And if he died because of that, we wouldn't say she murdered him. What would the analogy be for that action with respect to abortion? How does the woman decide she doesn't want a fetus for the next several months? If there were a procedure that allowed her to remove the baby without directly killing it, but that removal lead to it dying, are you going to say that that would be okay? --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904191950] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>When my uncle was diagnosed with ALS, my aunt had to devote a lot of time, and higher insurance premiums, to take care of him. Could she kill him because he was a burden on her and he wasn't "viable"?</quote> She did have the right to, for instance, divorce him and let him take care of himself or find other arrangements. And if he died because of that, we wouldn't say she murdered him. What would the analogy be for that action with respect to abortion? How does the woman decide she doesn't want a fetus for the next several months? If there were a procedure that allowed her to remove the baby without directly killing it, but that removal lead to it dying, are you going to say that that would be okay?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 06/29/18 1:40:25 PM #129:	Asherlee10 posted... DiegoSanchez206 posted... Asherlee10 posted... DiegoSanchez206 posted... Crazy how many irresponsible women there are. Get out of here with that bullshit. Im not trying to hurt your feelings. Its the truth. You are all about abortions but not about responsibility? This is weird. This isn't about my feelings. It's about you announcing an ignorant opinion like that. Abortion is taking responsibility. Nah abortion is about killing and finding away out of responsibility. Not getting pregnant would be the reposnisble part. --- Down goes Ohio State! https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:904191971] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted...</cite> <quote>Crazy how many irresponsible women there are.</quote> Get out of here with that bullshit.</quote> Im not trying to hurt your feelings. Its the truth. You are all about abortions but not about responsibility? This is weird.</quote> This isn't about my feelings. It's about you announcing an ignorant opinion like that. Abortion is taking responsibility.</quote> Nah abortion is about killing and finding away out of responsibility. Not getting pregnant would be the reposnisble part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ktownslayer16 06/29/18 1:42:08 PM #131:	It's incredible how many people ignore credible facts that show legal abortion is a good thing. Fucking Americans. --- Fire Pierre Dorion <cite>ktownslayer16 posted [p:904192066] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote>It's incredible how many people ignore credible facts that show legal abortion is a good thing. Fucking Americans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 06/29/18 1:42:54 PM #133:	ktownslayer16 posted... It's incredible how many people ignore credible facts that show legal abortion is a good thing. Fucking Americans. Let the states decide. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:904192098] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>ktownslayer16 posted...</cite> <quote>It's incredible how many people ignore credible facts that show legal abortion is a good thing. Fucking Americans.</quote> Let the states decide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 06/29/18 1:42:59 PM #134:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... Not getting pregnant would be the reposnisble part. Responsibility doesn't begin and end with a single decision. Nobody, and I do mean nobody, thinks that unintended pregnancies are responsible. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:904192104] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted...</cite> <quote>Not getting pregnant would be the reposnisble part.</quote> Responsibility doesn't begin and end with a single decision. Nobody, and I do mean nobody, thinks that unintended pregnancies are responsible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 06/29/18 1:45:55 PM #137:	shockthemonkey posted... HypnoCoosh posted... ktownslayer16 posted... It's incredible how many people ignore credible facts that show legal abortion is a good thing. Fucking Americans. Let the states decide. States should not be allowed to strip people of their inherent rights. The government should not have more power over a persons body than that person has. Too bad. States will decide. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:904192248] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ktownslayer16 posted...</cite> <quote>It's incredible how many people ignore credible facts that show legal abortion is a good thing. Fucking Americans.</quote> Let the states decide.</quote> States should not be allowed to strip people of their inherent rights. The government should not have more power over a persons body than that person has.</quote> Too bad. States will decide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/29/18 1:47:11 PM #140:	HypnoCoosh posted... Too bad. States will decide. it does make me feel better than most of the population of the US lives in blue states but it sucks for women living in states like mine --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904192318] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad. States will decide. </quote> it does make me feel better than most of the population of the US lives in blue states but it sucks for women living in states like mine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 06/29/18 1:47:11 PM #141:	Too bad we can't post abortion pictures in here without getting modded. Easier to hide the ugly truth. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:904192319] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote>Too bad we can't post abortion pictures in here without getting modded. Easier to hide the ugly truth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 06/29/18 1:47:42 PM #142:	The reason this happened in the first place is because they couldn't trust the states and rightfully so, when states are controlled by a certain amount of people why should those people be able to force everyone in their states to live as they live? It's ridiculous, might as well do away with overall government together and let the states all be their own country, who needs those rulings on women's right to votes, basic education and discrimination suits, surely we can trust the states on all of that? --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:904192353] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote>The reason this happened in the first place is because they couldn't trust the states and rightfully so, when states are controlled by a certain amount of people why should those people be able to force everyone in their states to live as they live? It's ridiculous, might as well do away with overall government together and let the states all be their own country, who needs those rulings on women's right to votes, basic education and discrimination suits, surely we can trust the states on all of that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/29/18 1:48:22 PM #143:	HypnoCoosh posted... Too bad we can't post abortion pictures in here without getting modded. Easier to hide the ugly truth. Imagine being so sick in the head to think this. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:904192377] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad we can't post abortion pictures in here without getting modded. Easier to hide the ugly truth.</quote> Imagine being so sick in the head to think this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 06/29/18 1:49:06 PM #145:	HypnoCoosh posted... Too bad we can't post abortion pictures in here without getting modded. Easier to hide the ugly truth. Abortions being ugly has no relevance to the argument. Abortions are either a reasonable accommodation in our society, or they aren't. How ugly the process is has no bearing on that question. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:904192416] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad we can't post abortion pictures in here without getting modded. Easier to hide the ugly truth.</quote> Abortions being ugly has no relevance to the argument. Abortions are either a reasonable accommodation in our society, or they aren't. How ugly the process is has no bearing on that question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/29/18 1:49:30 PM #146:	HypnoCoosh posted... Too bad we can't post abortion pictures in here without getting modded. Easier to hide the ugly truth. You wouldn't watch sausage being made either but that doesn't stop you from having one. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:904192439] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad we can't post abortion pictures in here without getting modded. Easier to hide the ugly truth.</quote> You wouldn't watch sausage being made either but that doesn't stop you from having one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 06/29/18 1:50:09 PM #147:	Asherlee10 posted... HypnoCoosh posted... shockthemonkey posted... HypnoCoosh posted... ktownslayer16 posted... It's incredible how many people ignore credible facts that show legal abortion is a good thing. Fucking Americans. Let the states decide. States should not be allowed to strip people of their inherent rights. The government should not have more power over a persons body than that person has. Too bad. States will decide. This is a terrible position to say that you are okay with people having their rights stripped away for the sake of some people's feelings. Its not a right. --- Down goes Ohio State! https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:904192471] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ktownslayer16 posted...</cite> <quote>It's incredible how many people ignore credible facts that show legal abortion is a good thing. Fucking Americans.</quote> Let the states decide.</quote> States should not be allowed to strip people of their inherent rights. The government should not have more power over a persons body than that person has.</quote> Too bad. States will decide.</quote> This is a terrible position to say that you are okay with people having their rights stripped away for the sake of some people's feelings.</quote> Its not a right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 06/29/18 1:50:42 PM #150:	shockthemonkey posted... Im going to throw a party the day that Mal Fet isnt intellectually dishonest. What do you have against never having parties?!?! --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:904192512] in Why do peo... [t:76761802]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Im going to throw a party the day that Mal Fet isnt intellectually dishonest.</quote> What do you have against never having parties?!?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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