Current Events > I saw this in twitter. How did we get to this point? So sad.

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https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/in-america-naturalized-citizens-no-longer-have-an-assumption-of-permanence

Any naturalized CEmen here? How do you feel about this? Do people simply need to get the hint and flee?

This feels straight out of a Wolfenstein: The New Order plot line :(

I think that might screw up my parents. They had issues filling out the forms because of the language barrier so our last name is a typo....
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Squall28 posted...

I think that might screw up my parents. They had issues filling out the forms because of the language barrier so our last name is a typo....

it seems that's the kind of thing these people are going after?

It turned all these citizens into 2nd class citizens... at best.

"hey guys, he is only against illegal immigration!". Riiiiggghhhhtttttttt

bump

nobody cares?!

Shuto-uke posted...

bump

nobody cares?!

Too many racists on CE now sorry

As SoCal man, I care; its disgusting.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Arent they going after people who had lied during their application process? People like Melania Trump?

Not necessarily lied. If your name is (chinese characters here) and it can be translated into Cung Le or Cung Lee or Cung Li, and in good faith you're Cung Le and Cung Li, bye bye.

If you forgot to put in your application that Johnny in 2nd grade used to call you "fucknuts" and stopped in 3rd grade, bye bye for you.

Melanoma will be fine. Because, law and order are a thing of the past.

spudger posted...

Too many racists on CE now sorry

True :(

Shuto-uke posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Arent they going after people who had lied during their application process? People like Melania Trump?

Not necessarily lied. If your name is (chinese characters here) and it can be translated into Cung Le or Cung Lee or Cung Li, and in good faith you're Cung Le and Cung Li, bye bye.

If you forgot to put in your application that Johnny in 2nd grade used to call you "fucknuts" and stopped in 3rd grade, bye bye for you.

Melanoma will be fine. Because, law and order are a thing of the past.

If Melania decided to divorce him, that would surely change. Maybe that's why she won't leave despite being miserable. He's basically holding her hostage.

Historically, denaturalization has been an exceedingly rare occurrence, for good reason: by the time a person is naturalized, she has lived in this country for a number of years and has passed the hurdles of obtaining entry, legal permanent residency, and, finally, citizenship. The conceit of naturalization is that it makes an immigrant not only equal to natural-born citizens but indistinguishable from them. So denaturalization, much like the process of stripping a natural-born American of citizenship, has been an extraordinary procedure reserved for very serious cases, mostly those of war criminals.

Which war criminals has the U.S. revoked citizenship?
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iPhone_7 posted...

Historically, denaturalization has been an exceedingly rare occurrence, for good reason: by the time a person is naturalized, she has lived in this country for a number of years and has passed the hurdles of obtaining entry, legal permanent residency, and, finally, citizenship. The conceit of naturalization is that it makes an immigrant not only equal to natural-born citizens but indistinguishable from them. So denaturalization, much like the process of stripping a natural-born American of citizenship, has been an extraordinary procedure reserved for very serious cases, mostly those of war criminals.

Which war criminals has the U.S. revoked citizenship?

Trump certainly wouldn't revoke those of Nazis. He thinks they're fine people.

Sounds like a huge unnecessary waste of time and money
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AlabamaLove posted...

Sounds like a huge unnecessary waste of time and money

Like most things associated with Trump. Including his Mar A Lago Secret Service scam where he makes literally millions in profit off the American taxpayers.

iPhone_7 posted...

Historically, denaturalization has been an exceedingly rare occurrence, for good reason: by the time a person is naturalized, she has lived in this country for a number of years and has passed the hurdles of obtaining entry, legal permanent residency, and, finally, citizenship. The conceit of naturalization is that it makes an immigrant not only equal to natural-born citizens but indistinguishable from them. So denaturalization, much like the process of stripping a natural-born American of citizenship, has been an extraordinary procedure reserved for very serious cases, mostly those of war criminals.

Which war criminals has the U.S. revoked citizenship?

A bunch of Nazis who took part in WWII then took refuge in America.
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Your fake outrage is delicious.
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Bio1590 posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

Which war criminals has the U.S. revoked citizenship?

A bunch of Nazis who took part in WWII then took refuge in America.

Ah, forgot about those Nazis.
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Theyre going after people that lied on their application for citizenship.

When you commit fraud you dont get to reap the benefits of your lies.

Fair next.
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Nomadic View posted...

Theyre going after people that lied on their application for citizenship.

When you commit fraud you dont get to reap the benefits of your lies.

Fair next.

So...Melania?
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Bio1590 posted...

Nomadic View posted...

Theyre going after people that lied on their application for citizenship.

When you commit fraud you dont get to reap the benefits of your lies.

Fair next.

So...Melania?

Sure, if she committed fraud. Absolutely. No one should be above the law.
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My wife is a naturalized US citizen and this kind of terrifies me tbh. It's also kind of ridiculous, they make it prohibitively expensive for a US citizen to formally renounce citizenship and yet they're going to just take away someone's naturalization status (that also probably cost a ton of money, I know that it did in our case)?

Their job should be to conduct the necessary investigations BEFORE giving them citizenship.
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@-Bungle- posted...

Your fake outrage is delicious.

fake outrage? You think I have to feign outrage at social cleansing?

@-Bungle- posted...

Your fake outrage is delicious.

fake outrage? You think I have to feign outrage at ethnic cleansing?

Been a naturalized citizen for 1.5 years now. I mean i should be good but it still scares the shit put of me. I get a bit paranoid the something will come up on my paperwork
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fjb posted...

Been a naturalized citizen for 1.5 years now. I mean i should be good but it still scares the shit put of me. I get a bit paranoid the something will come up on my paperwork

It beats the purpose of having people become citizens doesn't it? They're now no safer than someone with a visa?

I suspect they will only go after the brown people though