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ThanksUglyGod 07/03/18 3:07:37 PM #51:	Dyinglegacy posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... Dyinglegacy posted... FrisbeeDude posted... no, race troll, they just tend to have more resources ~~Fuck outta here with that first bit~~ What causes them to have more resources? There has to be something. Hard work, or was it just given to them? ding ding ding So, money that the parents have was given to them from, their parents(?), and that's why their kids do better than others? It all boils down to money, I guess. Nah, it's everybody's favorite...IDENTITY POLITICS! Washington Post Between 1940 and 1970, something remarkable happened to Asian Americans. Not only did they surpass African Americans in average household earnings, but they also closed the wage gap with whites. Many people credit this upward mobility to investments in education. But according to a recent study by Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger, schooling rates among Asian Americans didnt change all that significantly during those three decades. Instead, Hilgers research suggests that Asian Americans started to earn more because their fellow Americans became less racist toward them. How did that happen? About the same time that Asian Americans were climbing the socioeconomic ladder, they also experienced a major shift in their public image. At the outset of the 20th century, Asian Americans had often been portrayed as threatening, exotic and degenerate. But by the 1950s and 1960s, the idea of the model minority had begun to take root. Newspapers often glorified Asian Americans as industrious, law-abiding citizens who kept their heads down and never complained. ... The model minority narrative may have started with Asian Americans, but it was quickly co-opted by white politicians who saw it as a tool to win allies in the Cold War. Discrimination was not a good look on the international stage. Embracing Asian Americans provided a powerful means for the United States to proclaim itself a racial democracy and thereby credentialed to assume the leadership of the free world, Wu writes. Stories about Asian American success were turned into propaganda. By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldnt African Americans? The insinuation was that hard work along with unwavering faith in the government and liberal democracy as opposed to political protest were the keys to overcoming racial barriers as well as achieving full citizenship, she writes. https://wapo.st/2IQguW2 <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:904428678] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>no, race troll, they just tend to have more resources</quote> Fuck outta here with that first bit What causes them to have more resources? There has to be something. Hard work, or was it just given to them?</quote> ding ding ding</quote> So, money that the parents have was given to them from, their parents(?), and that's why their kids do better than others? It all boils down to money, I guess.</quote> Nah, it's everybody's favorite...IDENTITY POLITICS! <cite>Washington Post</cite> <quote>Between 1940 and 1970, something remarkable happened to Asian Americans. Not only did they surpass African Americans in average household earnings, but they also closed the wage gap with whites. Many people credit this upward mobility to investments in education. But according to a recent study by Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger, schooling rates among Asian Americans didnt change all that significantly during those three decades. Instead, Hilgers research suggests that Asian Americans started to earn more because their fellow Americans became less racist toward them. How did that happen? About the same time that Asian Americans were climbing the socioeconomic ladder, they also experienced a major shift in their public image. At the outset of the 20th century, Asian Americans had often been portrayed as threatening, exotic and degenerate. But by the 1950s and 1960s, the idea of the model minority had begun to take root. Newspapers often glorified Asian Americans as industrious, law-abiding citizens who kept their heads down and never complained. ... The model minority narrative may have started with Asian Americans, but it was quickly co-opted by white politicians who saw it as a tool to win allies in the Cold War. Discrimination was not a good look on the international stage. Embracing Asian Americans provided a powerful means for the United States to proclaim itself a racial democracy and thereby credentialed to assume the leadership of the free world, Wu writes. Stories about Asian American success were turned into propaganda. By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldnt African Americans? The insinuation was that hard work along with unwavering faith in the government and liberal democracy as opposed to political protest were the keys to overcoming racial barriers as well as achieving full citizenship, she writes.</quote> https://wapo.st/2IQguW2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/03/18 3:12:43 PM #52:	I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. If you've convinced yourself that you'll never make it, you never will. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:904428944] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote>I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. If you've convinced yourself that you'll never make it, you never will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmidgeIsntBack 07/03/18 3:13:49 PM #53:	Coffeebeanz posted... I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. Reminds me of a bit of advice I like, "You can be happy or you can be right." --- Audio Theater: For discussion of podcasts, radio, audiobooks, and the like https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1364- <cite>SmidgeIsntBack posted [p:904429012] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome.</quote> Reminds me of a bit of advice I like, "You can be happy or you can be right."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 07/03/18 3:15:29 PM #54:	Coffeebeanz posted... I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. If you've convinced yourself that you'll never make it, you never will. The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" ode? It's a load of shit here --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:904429095] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. If you've convinced yourself that you'll never make it, you never will.</quote> The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" ode? It's a load of shit here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/03/18 3:16:11 PM #55:	ThanksUglyGod posted... Washington Post Yeah, and? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904429159] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote>Washington Post</quote> Yeah, and?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/03/18 3:20:20 PM #56:	Blue_Inigo posted... Coffeebeanz posted... I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. If you've convinced yourself that you'll never make it, you never will. The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" ode? It's a load of shit here It got me from making C's to getting into medical school. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:904429431] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. If you've convinced yourself that you'll never make it, you never will.</quote> The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" ode? It's a load of shit here</quote> It got me from making C's to getting into medical school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/03/18 3:21:29 PM #57:	FrisbeeDude posted... darkjedilink posted... FrisbeeDude posted... affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college? The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on. it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process. So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race? --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:904429505] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college?</quote> The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on.</quote> it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process.</quote> So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/03/18 3:22:22 PM #58:	DarthAragorn posted... FrisbeeDude posted... darkjedilink posted... FrisbeeDude posted... affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college? The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on. it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process. So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race? that's how a racist might interpret that, yes --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904429566] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college?</quote> The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on.</quote> it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process.</quote> So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race?</quote> that's how a racist might interpret that, yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/03/18 3:23:19 PM #59:	FrisbeeDude posted... DarthAragorn posted... FrisbeeDude posted... darkjedilink posted... FrisbeeDude posted... affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college? The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on. it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process. So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race? that's how a racist might interpret that, yes That's not even an interpretation. That's a statement of fact. If your application has lower objective metrics, you're less qualified. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:904429630] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college?</quote> The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on.</quote> it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process.</quote> So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race?</quote> that's how a racist might interpret that, yes</quote> That's not even an interpretation. That's a statement of fact. If your application has lower objective metrics, you're less qualified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 07/03/18 3:23:23 PM #60:	I only fill out the race portion of applications and ALWAYS immediately get hired. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:904429637] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote>I only fill out the race portion of applications and ALWAYS immediately get hired.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/03/18 3:26:54 PM #61:	FrisbeeDude posted... DarthAragorn posted... FrisbeeDude posted... darkjedilink posted... FrisbeeDude posted... affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college? The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on. it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process. So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race? that's how a racist might interpret that, yes what part of inferior achievements makes them more qualified, then --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:904429844] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college?</quote> The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on.</quote> it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process.</quote> So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race?</quote> that's how a racist might interpret that, yes</quote> what part of inferior achievements makes them more qualified, then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 07/03/18 3:32:17 PM #62:	FrisbeeDude posted... DarthAragorn posted... FrisbeeDude posted... darkjedilink posted... FrisbeeDude posted... affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college? The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on. it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process. So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race? that's how a racist might interpret that, yes That sounds like the kind of response that a racist would come up with. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 15061 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:904430137] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>affirmative action in college is the gravest form of racial injustice in this country and must be eradicated...also, black people need to shut up about racism like...do yall love telling on yourselves like this? or do you really get triggered at qualified people of color getting into college?</quote> The average black college entrant is less qualified than the average Asian student that got passed up on.</quote> it's almost as if colleges dont explicitly pick the best kids academically to attend. welcome to the college admissions process.</quote> So basically, they pick people that are less qualified because of race?</quote> that's how a racist might interpret that, yes</quote> That sounds like the kind of response that a racist would come up with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 07/03/18 3:34:17 PM #63:	I spilled my water on my shirt this morning. It was the damn racists fault, that's what it was. I asked my coworker what time it was, he pointed at the clock on the wall. Damn racist piece of shit. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 15061 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:904430251] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote>I spilled my water on my shirt this morning. It was the damn racists fault, that's what it was. I asked my coworker what time it was, he pointed at the clock on the wall. Damn racist piece of shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/03/18 3:34:30 PM #64:	It's easy to brand someone a racist because it instantly shuts down the need to answer a question or address cognitive dissonance. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:904430264] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote>It's easy to brand someone a racist because it instantly shuts down the need to answer a question or address cognitive dissonance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 07/03/18 4:17:35 PM #65:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-RuKiFDIeU" data-time=" --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:904432920] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-RuKiFDIeU" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/03/18 4:22:05 PM #66:	tennisdude818 posted... [Sowell] Oh hell yes. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904433173] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>[Sowell]</quote> Oh hell yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 07/03/18 4:30:49 PM #67:	Questionmarktarius posted... tennisdude818 posted... [Sowell] Oh hell yes. He's done so much work on this subject, and almost nobody listens lol. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:904433636] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>[Sowell]</quote> Oh hell yes.</quote> He's done so much work on this subject, and almost nobody listens lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shanefu22 07/03/18 4:34:10 PM #68:	Peter_Giffyndor posted... I have special privileges? Awesome, please tell me what they are so that I might take advantage of them. You were born with them. If you haven't figured them out by this point in your life then there is no hope. --- Bench- 550 Squat-665 Dead- 825 <cite>shanefu22 posted [p:904433810] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted...</cite> <quote>I have special privileges? Awesome, please tell me what they are so that I might take advantage of them.</quote> You were born with them. If you haven't figured them out by this point in your life then there is no hope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peter_Giffyndor 07/03/18 4:44:36 PM #69:	Coffeebeanz posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Coffeebeanz posted... I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. If you've convinced yourself that you'll never make it, you never will. The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" ode? It's a load of shit here It got me from making C's to getting into medical school. He's being facetious and making fun of the cucks who cannot stop crying about "fairness" and want to a home and make excuses for why their lives suck. Still waiting for TC to fill me in on what privileges I have lmao. <cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted [p:904434426] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>I remember when I made a C in Organic Chemistry, my mom's response was "you can blame the teacher and keep making C's (and excuses) or you can blame yourself and make A's" The point being, even if you're right and it's someone else's fault, it doesn't change the outcome. Only you can change the outcome. If you've convinced yourself that you'll never make it, you never will.</quote> The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" ode? It's a load of shit here</quote> It got me from making C's to getting into medical school.</quote> He's being facetious and making fun of the cucks who cannot stop crying about "fairness" and want to a home and make excuses for why their lives suck. Still waiting for TC to fill me in on what privileges I have lmao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wannabepranksta 07/03/18 6:29:06 PM #70:	Peter_Giffyndor posted... making fun of the cucks who cannot stop crying about "fairness" an An ignoramous such as yourself will never understand. --- shut up and take my money <cite>wannabepranksta posted [p:904440128] in Affirmativ... [t:76774139]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted...</cite> <quote>making fun of the cucks who cannot stop crying about "fairness" an</quote> An ignoramous such as yourself will never understand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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