Current Events > GOP: Abolishing ICE would be abolishing America's borders

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Mr_Biscuit
07/04/18 11:34:24 PM
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Phantom_Nook
07/04/18 11:36:04 PM
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America had no borders before 2003, I guess.
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MorbidFaithless
07/04/18 11:36:17 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
America had no borders before 2003, I guess.

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hockeybub89
07/04/18 11:37:17 PM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
America had no borders before 2003, I guess.

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Antifar
07/04/18 11:37:49 PM
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ICE does not enforce our borders; that's CBP
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Mr_Biscuit
07/04/18 11:38:57 PM
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I mean this is the official party account

wtf
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Sayoria
07/04/18 11:41:47 PM
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Anything to push the party platform further. They only get by because 97% of Republicans refuse to do research.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/04/18 11:44:12 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Anything to push the party platform further. They only get by because 97% of Republicans refuse to do research.

I really hate to just assume this is true but it gets harder to argue every day. Like, holy shit. The most base-level education would tell you what an insane claim that is.
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LinksLiege
07/04/18 11:44:18 PM
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Some interpretations of that are horrifying.

Scratch that - every interpretation is.
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Metro2
07/04/18 11:46:10 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
America had no borders before 2003, I guess.


Open borders was actually how things were for most of America's history. Closed borders began in the 20th century.
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Paragon21XX
07/04/18 11:57:42 PM
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Antifar posted...
ICE does not enforce our borders; that's CBP

ICE cleans up after CBP by not only capturing illegals within our borders but also identifies and remedies border vulnerabilities that the CBP missed as well as other vulnerabilities that illegals take advantage of when they arrive. So while CBP is responsible for catching illegal border crossings as they happen, ICE fills in the gaps in patrols and surveillance of the border, captures those that got in through those gaps, and creates new measures to disincentivize them coming here in the first place by targeting businesses known to hire illegals, patrolling routes that illegals and traffickers often use and sweeping through cities and organizations known to harbor them.
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Capn Circus
07/05/18 12:04:50 AM
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People only want to abolish ICE because they do their job. Democrats (or at least their weekend protesters) want open border at this point.

Trump signed the EO to stop separating families, but that was not enough. They want anyone crossing the border with a child to be allowed to enter.

That's one of my criticisms of him; he keeps trying to placate the left but it never works out in his favor.

His polls aren't going down, most people want border security.
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kingdrake2
07/05/18 12:07:16 AM
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if illegals want into the United states they need to go through the proper channels like everyone else.
unfortunately it doesn't work that way since reason goes out the window.

already have enough of a hard time finding a place/having a job with all the illegals taking em.
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Link43130
07/05/18 12:13:21 AM
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Capn Circus posted...
People only want to abolish ICE because they do their job. Democrats (or at least their weekend protesters) want open border at this point.

its no surprise given how extreme the right has pushed people on this issue. eventually everyone saying "lets deport illegals but can we do this too" and getting shouted down by the right have fled and been pushed to full "open borders now"
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Antifar
07/05/18 12:13:57 AM
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Capn Circus posted...
His polls aren't going down, most people want border security.

The public has pretty consistently opposed Trump's border policies

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/immigration-trump-approval/index.html

Approval for the President on the issue of immigration specifically is at an all-time low in CNN polling. Only 35% approve of the way Trump is handling immigration, down from 40% in March, and 59% disapprove, up from 55%. Disapproval is highest among Democrats, liberals, those who disapprove of the job Trump is doing and nonwhite residents.

Immigration is one of the issues where Americans rate the President the poorest, with his approval on the economy at 49% and on foreign affairs and foreign trade tied at 39%, and only a third of people approving how he is handling health care policy. Out of these, immigration is the second lowest, next to health care, an issue where Democrats have historically had an advantage in polling.


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/369487-poll-nearly-nine-in-10-favor-allowing-daca-recipients-to-stay

An overwhelming majority of Americans supports legal protections for certain undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, according to a new CBS News poll.

According to the survey, almost 9 in 10 respondents 87 percent said they believe that the so-called Dreamers should be allowed to remain in the U.S. if they meet certain requirements, such as working or going to school.


https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/17/politics/poll-oppose-trump-deportation-immigration-policy/index.html
Americans disagree with President Donald Trump's immigration priorities, according to a new CNN/ORC poll, with nearly two-thirds of Americans saying they'd like to see a path to legal status for undocumented immigrants rather than deportations.

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Mr_Biscuit
07/05/18 7:21:38 AM
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Capn Circus posted...
People only want to abolish ICE because they do their job. Democrats (or at least their weekend protesters) want open border at this point.

Trump signed the EO to stop separating families, but that was not enough. They want anyone crossing the border with a child to be allowed to enter.

That's one of my criticisms of him; he keeps trying to placate the left but it never works out in his favor.

His polls aren't going down, most people want border security.

And here we have Exhibit A of someone who accepts whatever the party line is as fact
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Knowledge_King
07/05/18 10:39:47 AM
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That's clearly not meant to be 100% literal but OK.
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iPhone_7
07/05/18 10:42:13 AM
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Are the Democratic leaders talking about actually abolishing ICE? I thought they just wanted to take it down a notch.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
07/05/18 10:43:28 AM
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The people of middle America living off welfare money will eat this up. They know all about the evil Mexicans they've never seen before trying to steal their jobs.

Anyways the idea of a collectivist border is communist. Border should be opened and labor should be able to freely move.
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DiegoSanchez206
07/05/18 10:44:09 AM
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
The people of middle America living off welfare money will eat this up. They know all about the evil Mexicans they've never seen before trying to steal their jobs.

Anyways the idea of a collectivist border is communist. Border should be opened and labor should be able to freely move.

You want open borders? Lol
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CM_Ponch
07/05/18 10:45:55 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
already have enough of a hard time finding a place/having a job with all the illegals taking em.

What jobs are they taking from you?
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foreveraIone
07/05/18 10:52:09 AM
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im an unironic open borders advocate
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
07/05/18 10:55:16 AM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
The people of middle America living off welfare money will eat this up. They know all about the evil Mexicans they've never seen before trying to steal their jobs.

Anyways the idea of a collectivist border is communist. Border should be opened and labor should be able to freely move.

You want open borders? Lol


I support the free market so in a perfect world yes, I'm not a communist.

For today? Just make it extremely easy to get work permits until we can end the welfare state and make property rights stronger.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
07/05/18 10:56:20 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
already have enough of a hard time finding a place/having a job with all the illegals taking em.

What jobs are they taking from you?


They're not. Illegal immigration is almost always jobs that no one wants, above minimum wage and they come when there is a strong economy and excess jobs. Why? Because they fill a need not being met in the market.
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Bat178
07/05/18 11:01:22 AM
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They are acting like Customs and Border Security doesn't exist. I bet they don't even know there are other branches of Homeland Security besides ICE.
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spudger
07/05/18 11:02:35 AM
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Republicans are terrible
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Mr_Biscuit
07/05/18 12:03:12 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
That's clearly not meant to be 100% literal but OK.

To abolish ICE would be to abolish Americas borders

Th-theyre just joking!! Triggered LIBS!!!
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