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Le__seul_dieu__
07/05/18 6:39:42 AM
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Proof and ruin his entire life.
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scar the 1
07/05/18 6:42:09 AM
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It is also really frightening how a man can ruin a woman's life with rape and/or abuse and society will scramble to defend him so much that women are afraid of even reporting it.
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foreveraIone
07/05/18 6:44:11 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
It is also really frightening how a man can ruin a woman's life with rape and/or abuse and society will scramble to defend him so much that women are afraid of even reporting it.

why rural america needs to die
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scar the 1
07/05/18 6:48:18 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
scar the 1 posted...
It is also really frightening how a man can ruin a woman's life with rape and/or abuse and society will scramble to defend him so much that women are afraid of even reporting it.

why rural america needs to die

This is sadly a lot more widespread than rural America. It's getting better, but far too slowly.
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tennisdude818
07/05/18 6:52:45 AM
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Especially in universities, yeah.
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SmidgeIsntBack
07/05/18 6:52:48 AM
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This is the consequence of decades of society turning their backs on abused women. It will settle down eventually, but not before survivors are encouraged to speak out and tell their stories to the proper authorities.
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Hulkasaurusrex
07/05/18 6:54:26 AM
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F u its my right to lie. There are also legitimate problems who get found out another way.
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pinky0926
07/05/18 6:55:54 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
It is also really frightening how a man can ruin a woman's life with rape and/or abuse and society will scramble to defend him so much that women are afraid of even reporting it.


It's really amazing how much of this bullshit you see with rape and with nothing else

Like if I told you someone broke into my house and stole my shit you'd nod your head and say "that sucks man, I hope you have insurance"

But a woman says someone broke into my pants and suddenly the conversation is "woah woah let's wait for all the facts, I want to hear both sides of the story first" and "But what were you doing in that neighbourhood in that dress?" all sorts of nonsense.

You'd think we were talking about the necessary disseminating required in a legal trial, and not casual conversation.
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weekoldhotdog
07/05/18 6:56:27 AM
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so frightening

much startled
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The Great Muta 22
07/05/18 6:58:28 AM
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TC seems like the type to face the issue he's complaining about
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Delirious_Beard
07/05/18 6:59:28 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
It is also really frightening how a man can ruin a woman's life with rape and/or abuse and society will scramble to defend him so much that women are afraid of even reporting it.


well so much for this topic
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tennisdude818
07/05/18 7:02:20 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
It is also really frightening how a man can ruin a woman's life with rape and/or abuse and society will scramble to defend him so much that women are afraid of even reporting it.


It's really amazing how much of this bullshit you see with rape and with nothing else

Like if I told you someone broke into my house and stole my shit you'd nod your head and say "that sucks man, I hope you have insurance"

But a woman says someone broke into my pants and suddenly the conversation is "woah woah let's wait for all the facts, I want to hear both sides of the story first" and "But what were you doing in that neighbourhood in that dress?" all sorts of nonsense.

You'd think we were talking about the necessary disseminating required in a legal trial, and not casual conversation.


When a guy is specifically named, you have to wait for the facts before you ruin his life. It's much harder to prove rape, and no decent person is happy about that unfortunate reality. But "listen and believe" would give a dangerous amount of power to half of the population.
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scar the 1
07/05/18 7:03:05 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
It's really amazing how much of this bulls*** you see with rape and with nothing else

One story that has stuck with me is from Bjsta which is really close to where I grew up, from maybe 10-15 years ago. A 15 year old girl got raped by her classmate and was completely shunned by the community. Even after the boy confessed in court, people took his side, he was invited to join the school's summer holiday kickoff celebration, etc. Even after he raped another girl and confessed, the whole community took his side. It was so bad her family had to move. And that's in progressive Sweden, a country that spends a lot of energy on research and changing public perception of rape victims.
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scar the 1
07/05/18 7:05:23 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
But "listen and believe" would give a dangerous amount of power to half of the population.

You can listen and choose to not take a stance until the matter is properly investigated and prosecuted. There's a difference between questioning the victim at every step of the way and waiting for the facts until you decide what to think.
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pinky0926
07/05/18 7:29:49 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
When a guy is specifically named, you have to wait for the facts before you ruin his life. It's much harder to prove rape, and no decent person is happy about that unfortunate reality. But "listen and believe" would give a dangerous amount of power to half of the population.


Curiously this same attention to detail is never aimed at the man in these conversations. Listen and believe is so often taken at face value when the accused rapist said he didn't do it.

"Listen and believe" is about culture, not law. It's about taking rape victims testimony seriously and understanding the reasons why they don't have a comprehensive binder of evidence on the matter as well as the reasons why they didn't do what you think they should have done in the scenario. "Listen and believe" is not about eroding the law.

As scar the 1 pointed out, if you can recognise that you don't have all the facts, then it's probably better to keep your mouth shut and let the court do its job.
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Le__seul_dieu__
07/05/18 7:32:01 AM
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@The Great Muta 22 posted...
TC seems like the type to face the issue he's complaining about

i'm a woman myself so no.
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weekoldhotdog
07/05/18 7:33:08 AM
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Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
@The Great Muta 22 posted...
TC seems like the type to face the issue he's complaining about

i'm a woman myself so no.


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PanzerElite
07/05/18 7:34:50 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
It is also really frightening how a man can ruin a woman's life with rape and/or abuse and society will scramble to defend him so much that women are afraid of even reporting it.

Blame the people who make false rape accusations
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ArchiePeck
07/05/18 7:37:05 AM
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dumb b****


I take it TC is successful in interacting with women in general...
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Gafemage
07/05/18 7:40:40 AM
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Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
@The Great Muta 22 posted...
TC seems like the type to face the issue he's complaining about

i'm a woman myself so no.

For some reason Im skeptical of this. Not saying that you being a woman couldnt be the case or anything, just that I have a hard time believing it based on the OP.
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weekoldhotdog
07/05/18 7:44:55 AM
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Gafemage posted...
Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
@The Great Muta 22 posted...
TC seems like the type to face the issue he's complaining about

i'm a woman myself so no.

For some reason Im skeptical of this. Not saying that you being a woman couldnt be the case or anything, just that I have a hard time believing it based on the OP.

same goes for myself, but I didn't want to be the first to point this out.
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The Great Muta 22
07/05/18 7:50:40 AM
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Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
@The Great Muta 22 posted...
TC seems like the type to face the issue he's complaining about

i'm a woman myself so no.


No body believes you
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tennisdude818
07/05/18 7:51:19 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
When a guy is specifically named, you have to wait for the facts before you ruin his life. It's much harder to prove rape, and no decent person is happy about that unfortunate reality. But "listen and believe" would give a dangerous amount of power to half of the population.


Curiously this same attention to detail is never aimed at the man in these conversations. Listen and believe is so often taken at face value when the accused rapist said he didn't do it.

"Listen and believe" is about culture, not law. It's about taking rape victims testimony seriously and understanding the reasons why they don't have a comprehensive binder of evidence on the matter as well as the reasons why they didn't do what you think they should have done in the scenario. "Listen and believe" is not about eroding the law.

As scar the 1 pointed out, if you can recognise that you don't have all the facts, then it's probably better to keep your mouth shut and let the court do its job.


Your 3rd paragraph is fine, but it seems like you havent noticed how far the pendulum swung the other way.
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weekoldhotdog
07/05/18 7:52:42 AM
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<checks to make sure my back ups are ready.

My mother is already dead. I am a woman, so no

alright, lez do this!>
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Le__seul_dieu__
07/05/18 7:55:25 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
@The Great Muta 22 posted...
TC seems like the type to face the issue he's complaining about

i'm a woman myself so no.


No body believes you

that's fine. you don't have to.
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weekoldhotdog
07/05/18 7:57:44 AM
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Maybe she's a MtF?

I can believe that.
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CIA_Agent
07/05/18 7:58:54 AM
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Agreed. I'm starting to believe we need a legitimate Men's Rights movement. Not those MRA neckbeards, but a new movement entirely.
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scar the 1
07/05/18 8:03:21 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Your 3rd paragraph is fine, but it seems like you havent noticed how far the pendulum swung the other way.

Yeah, in public discourse dictated by a media that makes money on controversy, the pendulum has swung far. In real life not so much.
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SavenForever
07/05/18 8:07:39 AM
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It really is. It almost ruined my life back in junior year in high school when some bitch told my teacher she couldn't sit next to me because I "sexually harassed her back in middle school, so I need to sit next to my friends." to get out of assigned seating.
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Genocet_10-325
07/05/18 8:08:08 AM
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Posts like TC is why polls show almost 40% of CE has never touched a woman
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SmidgeIsntBack
07/05/18 8:09:51 AM
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CIA_Agent posted...
Agreed. I'm starting to believe we need a legitimate Men's Rights movement. Not those MRA neckbeards, but a new movement entirely.


Any movement of this sort will be co-opted by the same people you're trying to avoid.
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CIA_Agent
07/05/18 8:10:50 AM
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...
CIA_Agent posted...
Agreed. I'm starting to believe we need a legitimate Men's Rights movement. Not those MRA neckbeards, but a new movement entirely.


Any movement of this sort will be co-opted by the same people you're trying to avoid.


There will be losers in any movement. They just can't be allowed to be in leadership positions or to speak for the movement publicly.
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SmidgeIsntBack
07/05/18 8:14:13 AM
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You can't avoid it. MRA, Gamergate, confederacy statue protection groups, it always brings out the bad element and they're always going to get the spotlight because that's what they want.
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