Current Events > Americans and non Americans what you think of this video?

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Just usual anti-American crap. I even regret clicking the video just to look at the title.

Pfft
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10. Including sales tax on the shelf price is something we need to do. It'll add a 'market' mechanism to local taxes.

9. Yeah, and?

8. Yeah, and?

7. Okay, you've got a point here. Saltwater taffy is pure bliss, though.

6. Get a Brita filter, dammit. Tap water is free in Europe?

5. Too bad.

4. Ditching tipping would be nice. Keeping my damn leftovers is too damn bad - I paid for it, it's mine.

3. Yeah, and?

2. Yeah... I have no idea why we do this.

1. Yeah, and?

Why the fuck Americans say I could care less instead of I couldn't care less should be on the list.
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spikethedevil posted...

Why the fuck Americans say I could care less instead of I couldn't care less should be on the list.

Because, it's technically correct either way.

"I can totally be more apathetic than this. Just watch."
"Nah. This is as apathetic as I get. It's impossible to be any more so."

But saying I could care less means you actually care to begin with and Americans use it when they want to say they don't care about something.
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spikethedevil posted...

But saying I could care less means you actually care to begin with and Americans use it when they want to say they don't care about something.

Americans have been bludgeoning English to death for two or three hundred years.
Daniel Webster brutally murdered all the superfluous U's pretty much immediately, and we've been slowly feeding our vowel phonemes to schwa for a century or two now.

Adding sales tax wouldn't be complicated at all wtf
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scar the 1 posted...

Adding sales tax wouldn't be complicated at all wtf

It would involve "tax wars", which, as awesome as they'd be, no local government actually wants.
Sales tax in the US needs to be vastly more transparent, instead of being a "surprise" at the end of a transaction.

The only instance where it is transparent, right in the price, is when buying gasoline.

To say you could care less means there is a potential to care less, but you don't. Basic high school stuff here. I'm an American, but defending most of this stuff is silly. I understand the sales tax thing...and side with Americans on straight teeth, but...

Excess driving is lame. The outlet switches are a good idea. Bottled water is ****ing silly. I would like more vacation days...definitely. Come on. America is dumb. Can we admit our stupidity and step into the 21st century? ****ing trumpeters. Get over the 19th century. You weren't even born in the 19th century and you're still suckin its ****. How? How can you be born in like the 1980s and be like that..

8-bit_Biceps posted...

I would like more vacation days...definitely.

Why should your employer pay you for not working?

Yep, basically all these things confuse me about America.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Adding sales tax wouldn't be complicated at all wtf

It would involve "tax wars", which, as awesome as they'd be, no local government actually wants.
Sales tax in the US needs to be vastly more transparent, instead of being a "surprise" at the end of a transaction.

The only instance where it is transparent, right in the price, is when buying gasoline.

Hey, you mean that actually informing the customers up-front about what they need to pay would involve a tax war?
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scar the 1 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Adding sales tax wouldn't be complicated at all wtf

It would involve "tax wars", which, as awesome as they'd be, no local government actually wants.
Sales tax in the US needs to be vastly more transparent, instead of being a "surprise" at the end of a transaction.

The only instance where it is transparent, right in the price, is when buying gasoline.

Hey, you mean that actually informing the customers up-front about what they need to pay would involve a tax war?

Yes.
We should actively do that.

Questionmarktarius posted...

8-bit_Biceps posted...

I would like more vacation days...definitely.

Why should your employer pay you for not working?

Why should he pay for your insurance?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Yes.

Sounds like people trying to circumvent a natural consequence of capitalism by misinforming customers.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

8-bit_Biceps posted...

I would like more vacation days...definitely.

Why should your employer pay you for not working?

Because people should respect their fellow man. We all die in the end. Don't be a dick.

scar the 1 posted...

Why should he pay for your insurance?

This was invented, roughly around the WW2 era, as an incentive to work for any given employer. It's not gone away since.

Sounds like people trying to circumvent a natural consequence of capitalism by misinforming customers.

Kinda?
It's mostly a way to hide the local tax burden.

As an American, my main two gripes are:

1) The sales tax point. I live in a state with no sales tax. On the map it showed in the video, it had a few states with a 0% sales tax. Here the sales tax isn't even on the books. It doesn't exist. So it's not a 0% sales tax technically, but rather the tax doesn't even exist to begin with. It's kind of a small point but whatever.

2) Vacation days. While the US does not have any federal laws requiring paid vacation, that does not mean that no Americans get paid vacation. The video didn't say that Americans get zero paid vacation specifically, but I just want to point this out because it's a common misconception people seem to have.

As for people in this thread complaining about the driving, just look at a population density map and it will explain everything, along with the fact that many US cities were built up after the invention of the car. In older eastern cities like NYC and Boston you can definitely see how in the older areas of the city it's setup totally differently, in a way that seems much more reminiscent of a European city.

Finally, if you look in the comments, there's a lot of people pointing out BS in the video about stuff like no ice in drinks.
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scar the 1 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
I would like more vacation days...definitely.

Why should your employer pay you for not working?

Why should he pay for your insurance?

They shouldn't. It's an insane idea that your employer should have control over your healthcare like that. I'd much rather have a universal healthcare system in which people didn't receive healthcare from their employers. This is one of the biggest problems in America. Bernie talked about this in the 2016 Democratic Primary, and Hillary basically just rolled her eyes and blabbed some shit about not wanting to start over from scratch.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
I would like more vacation days...definitely.

Why should your employer pay you for not working?

Why should he pay for your insurance?

They shouldn't. It's an insane idea that your employer should have control over your healthcare like that. I'd much rather have a universal healthcare system in which people didn't receive healthcare from their employers. This is one of the biggest problems in America. Bernie talked about this in the 2016 Democratic Primary, and Hillary basically just rolled her eyes and blabbed some shit about not wanting to start over from scratch.

I've actually "done the math" on several occasions, and nationalizing the whole damn thing would be a huge cost advantage over the half-assed cobbled-together public/private utter clustuterfuck of a system we have now.

But, it's a very simple question. Why should anyone else pay for your healthcare?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
I would like more vacation days...definitely.

Why should your employer pay you for not working?

Why should he pay for your insurance?

They shouldn't. It's an insane idea that your employer should have control over your healthcare like that. I'd much rather have a universal healthcare system in which people didn't receive healthcare from their employers. This is one of the biggest problems in America. Bernie talked about this in the 2016 Democratic Primary, and Hillary basically just rolled her eyes and blabbed some shit about not wanting to start over from scratch.

I've actually "done the math" on several occasions, and nationalizing the whole damn thing would be a huge cost advantage over the half-assed cobbled-together public/private utter clustuterfuck of a system we have now.

But, it's a very simple question. Why should anyone else pay for your healthcare?

Basically just the idea that the state should try to provide some kind of minimum safety net, particularly in countries that are wealthy enough to afford this without totally breaking the bank, which is true for the US. And as you say, it will be a total savings compared to the current terrible system anyways, which is a big plus.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Basically just the idea that the state should try to provide some kind of minimum safety net

I'm of the belief that the safety net should never be a hammock.
I'm totally cool with the idea of a nationalized public hospital system, but it should be essentially "VA for everyone" - which is, if you look it up, what UK and Canada do right now.

Maybe not UK, since they overtly ban a "private' system over the top of it.

Asking why should someone pay for your healthcare is crazy af nowadays. Haven't you people had enough time to think about this? You're paying for your own healthcare essentially, over time, until you get old and continually need what you paid into. It's like asking why drive a car with a seatbelt, or ride a motorcycle with a helmet. The answer is obvious...because you can't predict the future. Something could happen to you at anytime. The US can afford this. The truth is that, because people on the left don't vote as much as the people on the right, the politics have failed to keep up with the culture, severely limiting freedoms yearned for, and thus happiness.

We have a pandemic in this country right now, where people really want to trust the snake oil salesman. This is the 21st century though. The snake oil salesman shouldn't have a job, but people want to keep giving the rich guy more money, even though it costs a fraction of 1 percent of a fat cat's income to pay the bare minimum of bills necessary to sustain a baseline life in America, compared to most American's using an overwhelming majority of their income to keep up. So why are we so hard for these rich people who don't care about us?

Because you believe you will be rich? Take a stats course. You people underestimate how much luck factors into millionaire-level success.

8-bit_Biceps posted...

Asking why should someone pay for your healthcare is crazy af nowadays.

Why should I buy your shoes?

That's a good idea. I think everyone should have a car too. One day we'll get there. Why you should buy my shoes is obvious. Because there's shit on the ground that could hurt me and in this time period, it's pretty easy to come by shoes and I think we're acclimated to a certain level of comfort. However, I think what's most important here is that you could pay for my shoes, car, and healthcare, all while paying LESS in taxes if people just voted for someone rational who will tax rich people more.

Okay, I think you're a parody account now.

Listing 10 things in a 12 minute video. No thanks.
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No I'm just progressive. A lot of countries in Europe have much better policies like socialized daycare, a year of maternity leave, 6 hour work days, etc. Your problem is that your expectation for what policy should be is based on what's normal; and what's normal to you is based on what is happening in America locally, instead of what you think is actually best for people's well-being. You think what should be is just what is already happening...as if we're at the peak of advancement and there is no more work to do to sculpt civilization. People are stupid. We have a lot to do. This country is ****ed. We're the richest and the dumbest developed country.

8-bit_Biceps posted...

Your problem is that your expectation for what policy should be is based on what's normal; and what's normal to you is based on what is happening in America locally, instead of what you think is actually best for people's well-being.

America has been a beautiful disaster since the 1600s. We know. This is nothing new.

Questionmarktarius posted...

This was invented, roughly around the WW2 era, as an incentive to work for any given employer. It's not gone away since.

Paid vacation is a good incentive to work, I'd say. Plus it's really fucking healthy.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

8-bit_Biceps posted...

Your problem is that your expectation for what policy should be is based on what's normal; and what's normal to you is based on what is happening in America locally, instead of what you think is actually best for people's well-being.

America has been a beautiful disaster since the 1600s. We know. This is nothing new.

Okay well do something about it. First step. Stop hanging around 19th century dick riders.

AND HURRY YOUR ASS UP. I've been waiting for a long time. I'm 30 years old. This country hasn't done shit yet. What has America done in the last 30 years? Like nothing. Fuck.

8-bit_Biceps posted...

AND HURRY YOUR ASS UP. I've been waiting for a long time. I'm 30 years old. This country hasn't done shit yet. What has America done in the last 30 years? Like nothing. Fuck.

To be fair, ain't shit happened since we went to the moon - give or take Reagan curbstomping communism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX00QkvK-mQ" data-time="

Even that was thirty years ago.

Other countries do stuff for high school graduation.

http://community.sparknotes.com/2013/05/21/how-other-countries-celebrate-graduation
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Maybe not UK, since they overtly ban a "private' system over the top of it.

What. You can get private health care if you want here.
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Funkydog posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Maybe not UK, since they overtly ban a "private' system over the top of it.

What. You can get private health care if you want here.

Shit, really?
Was I thinking of Australia?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Funkydog posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Maybe not UK, since they overtly ban a "private' system over the top of it.

What. You can get private health care if you want here.

Shit, really?
Was I thinking of Australia?

I dunno. But we have private health care. BUPA being the main one.

Heck, most dentists and opticians probably count as private too seeing as the NHS doesn't cover it once you're over 19
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Funkydog posted...

I dunno. But we have private health care. BUPA being the main one.

One of those countries we're supposed to emulate supposedly bans privately-funded health care, entirely
I know it isn't Canada, and thought it was UK for some reason.

Maybe it's France? I dunno.