Current Events > America's love of SUVs is killing pedestrians

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Bio1590 07/06/18 2:41:16 PM #51:	FLUFFYGERM posted... How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs? Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:904602126] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs?</quote> Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/06/18 2:41:59 PM #52:	Abyssea posted... are minorities just more likely to jaywalk then? I mean... how could it be effecting them more statistically? They are disproportionately likely to live in cities --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:904602167] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>are minorities just more likely to jaywalk then? I mean... how could it be effecting them more statistically?</quote> They are disproportionately likely to live in cities</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 07/06/18 2:43:13 PM #53:	Antifar posted... Abyssea posted... are minorities just more likely to jaywalk then? I mean... how could it be effecting them more statistically? They are disproportionately likely to live in cities okay well, can we tell them to stay out of the road please? --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904602239] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>are minorities just more likely to jaywalk then? I mean... how could it be effecting them more statistically?</quote> They are disproportionately likely to live in cities</quote> okay well, can we tell them to stay out of the road please?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 07/06/18 2:44:32 PM #54:	@LedZeppelin posted... The rising tide of pedestrian deaths is primarily an urban plague that kills minorities at a disproportionate rate. jesus fucking christ. apparently suvs are racist now too! guess its time for blm to start protesting suv makers right?? Nobody is saying that you dolt. It's useful to see what population of people is most affected to figure out ways to combat it. Do you also bitch when medical science says blacks are at higher risk for hypertension? "Duurrr the liberlols think hypertension is racist" --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:904602307] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>@LedZeppelin posted...</cite> <quote><quote>The rising tide of pedestrian deaths is primarily an urban plague that kills minorities at a disproportionate rate.</quote> jesus fucking christ. apparently suvs are racist now too! guess its time for blm to start protesting suv makers right??</quote> Nobody is saying that you dolt. It's useful to see what population of people is most affected to figure out ways to combat it. Do you also bitch when medical science says blacks are at higher risk for hypertension? "Duurrr the liberlols think hypertension is racist"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/06/18 2:46:02 PM #55:	josifrees posted... It isnt like these SUVs are thirty feet tall or something. People not paying attention and fucking around on their phones while speeding kills people he's right. gotta have 100% attention during driving. would prevent some deaths to pedestrians but not the ones who bolt out in front of traffic. though the laws aren't harsh enough for cell phone users or texter's those increase deaths. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:904602379] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>It isnt like these SUVs are thirty feet tall or something. People not paying attention and fucking around on their phones while speeding kills people</quote> he's right. gotta have 100% attention during driving. would prevent some deaths to pedestrians but not the ones who bolt out in front of traffic. though the laws aren't harsh enough for cell phone users or texter's those increase deaths.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/06/18 2:48:41 PM #56:	Giant_Aspirin posted... ban SUVs They do kill more people every year than 'assault weapons.' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:904602546] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>ban SUVs</quote> They do kill more people every year than 'assault weapons.'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/06/18 2:48:55 PM #57:	Antifar posted... Abyssea posted... are minorities just more likely to jaywalk then? I mean... how could it be effecting them more statistically? They are disproportionately likely to live in cities they control for this and still find a disparity, though e.g., blacks are 14% of the urban population but 20% of vehicular deaths the real answer is black people are more likely to be pedestrians because theyre more likely to be poor --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904602561] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>are minorities just more likely to jaywalk then? I mean... how could it be effecting them more statistically?</quote> They are disproportionately likely to live in cities</quote> they control for this and still find a disparity, though e.g., blacks are 14% of the urban population but 20% of vehicular deaths the real answer is black people are more likely to be pedestrians because theyre more likely to be poor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 07/06/18 2:49:26 PM #58:	Balrog0 posted... Antifar posted... Abyssea posted... are minorities just more likely to jaywalk then? I mean... how could it be effecting them more statistically? They are disproportionately likely to live in cities they control for this and still find a disparity, though e.g., blacks are 14% of the urban population but 20% of vehicular deaths the real answer is black people are more likely to be pedestrians because theyre more likely to be poor just because you're poor doesn't mean you can't get your ass out of the road. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904602596] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>are minorities just more likely to jaywalk then? I mean... how could it be effecting them more statistically?</quote> They are disproportionately likely to live in cities</quote> they control for this and still find a disparity, though e.g., blacks are 14% of the urban population but 20% of vehicular deaths the real answer is black people are more likely to be pedestrians because theyre more likely to be poor</quote> just because you're poor doesn't mean you can't get your ass out of the road.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/06/18 2:50:19 PM #59:	Abyssea posted... just because you're poor doesn't mean you can't get your ass out of the road. okay? that has nothing to do with what I said --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904602644] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> just because you're poor doesn't mean you can't get your ass out of the road.</quote> okay? that has nothing to do with what I said</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 07/06/18 2:51:08 PM #60:	Balrog0 posted... Abyssea posted... just because you're poor doesn't mean you can't get your ass out of the road. okay? that has nothing to do with what I said I know, i'm just saying, being poor is no excuse to be wandering around in the road. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904602685] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> just because you're poor doesn't mean you can't get your ass out of the road.</quote> okay? that has nothing to do with what I said</quote> I know, i'm just saying, being poor is no excuse to be wandering around in the road.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 07/06/18 2:55:14 PM #61:	It's pretty obvious why SUVs kill more often, but why are pedestrians being hit? --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:904602924] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty obvious why SUVs kill more often, but why are pedestrians being hit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/06/18 2:56:38 PM #62:	EbonTitanium posted... It's pretty obvious why SUVs kill more often, but why are pedestrians being hit? I feel that drivers have an irrational hatred for pedestrians and cyclists. --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:904603007] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>EbonTitanium posted...</cite> <quote>It's pretty obvious why SUVs kill more often, but why are pedestrians being hit?</quote> I feel that drivers have an irrational hatred for pedestrians and cyclists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 07/06/18 3:03:42 PM #63:	HylianFox posted... EbonTitanium posted... It's pretty obvious why SUVs kill more often, but why are pedestrians being hit? I feel that drivers have an irrational hatred for pedestrians and cyclists. Bicyclists demand they be treated like motor vehicles yet ignore all road laws <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:904603343] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EbonTitanium posted...</cite> <quote>It's pretty obvious why SUVs kill more often, but why are pedestrians being hit?</quote> I feel that drivers have an irrational hatred for pedestrians and cyclists.</quote> Bicyclists demand they be treated like motor vehicles yet ignore all road laws</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0TiamaT0 07/06/18 3:05:58 PM #64:	It clearly says drunk jaywalking is the main cause for such deaths. Why exactly is this the car manufacturers problem? I can honestly say that I dont care about these people. If youre a grown man and cant figure out how to cross a street - you deserve what you get. --- https://youtu.be/JDHvYdi6Bu4 <cite>0TiamaT0 posted [p:904603458] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote>It clearly says drunk jaywalking is the main cause for such deaths. Why exactly is this the car manufacturers problem? I can honestly say that I dont care about these people. If youre a grown man and cant figure out how to cross a street - you deserve what you get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/06/18 3:15:50 PM #65:	It does not say that Antifar posted... Data and safety experts verified that long-standing common factors in pedestrian deaths, such as alcohol and jaywalking at night, did not account for the growth. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:904604006] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote>It does not say that <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Data and safety experts verified that long-standing common factors in pedestrian deaths, such as alcohol and jaywalking at night, did not account for the growth.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/06/18 3:17:01 PM #66:	jaywalking laws are bullshit anyway fuckin big auto industry criminalizing using my own two feet on public spaces --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904604083] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote>jaywalking laws are bullshit anyway fuckin big auto industry criminalizing using my own two feet on public spaces</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 3:17:50 PM #67:	Balrog0 posted... jaywalking laws are bullshit anyway fuckin big auto industry criminalizing using my own two feet on public spaces it's the local government that makes and enforces those laws, aint it? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904604136] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>jaywalking laws are bullshit anyway fuckin big auto industry criminalizing using my own two feet on public spaces</quote> it's the local government that makes and enforces those laws, aint it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 3:18:35 PM #68:	Bio1590 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs? Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons Because I'm curious if SUVs save any lives rather than just take them --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904604182] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs?</quote> Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons</quote> Because I'm curious if SUVs save any lives rather than just take them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 07/06/18 3:20:24 PM #69:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Bio1590 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs? Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons Because I'm curious if SUVs save any lives rather than just take them SUVs are more dangerous generally speaking, I read that it's better for children to get hit by SUVs/vans because their front is flatter so it's like getting hit by a wall, whereas when a kid gets hit by a sedan it's like a giant baseball bat that smacks them in the neck/head. That was from some random drivers ed VHS though so it's probably outdated <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:904604262] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs?</quote> Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons</quote> Because I'm curious if SUVs save any lives rather than just take them</quote> SUVs are more dangerous generally speaking, I read that it's better for children to get hit by SUVs/vans because their front is flatter so it's like getting hit by a wall, whereas when a kid gets hit by a sedan it's like a giant baseball bat that smacks them in the neck/head. That was from some random drivers ed VHS though so it's probably outdated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/06/18 3:21:14 PM #70:	FLUFFYGERM posted... it's the local government that makes and enforces those laws, aint it? enforces, yes, makes, sorta it is usually state law and localities are allowed to make them more restrictive, but usually not less restrictive AFAIK --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904604311] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>it's the local government that makes and enforces those laws, aint it?</quote> enforces, yes, makes, sorta it is usually state law and localities are allowed to make them more restrictive, but usually not less restrictive AFAIK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 07/06/18 3:23:19 PM #71:	Many who died were males, were jaywalking or had alcohol in their systems on multilane roads in urban areas at night. Some might have been distracted, just as vehicle drivers could have been, by texting or talking on cellphones, although data is lacking to quantify distraction. Tis not a car problem but a stupid people problem. --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:904604424] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><quote>Many who died were males, were jaywalking or had alcohol in their systems on multilane roads in urban areas at night. Some might have been distracted, just as vehicle drivers could have been, by texting or talking on cellphones, although data is lacking to quantify distraction.</quote> Tis not a car problem but a stupid people problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/06/18 3:23:56 PM #72:	HiddenLurker posted... Many who died were males, were jaywalking or had alcohol in their systems on multilane roads in urban areas at night. Some might have been distracted, just as vehicle drivers could have been, by texting or talking on cellphones, although data is lacking to quantify distraction. Tis not a car problem but a stupid people problem. there hasn't been a 80% increase in stupid people, but there has been an 80% increase in pedestrian deaths --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904604458] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>HiddenLurker posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Many who died were males, were jaywalking or had alcohol in their systems on multilane roads in urban areas at night. Some might have been distracted, just as vehicle drivers could have been, by texting or talking on cellphones, although data is lacking to quantify distraction.</quote> Tis not a car problem but a stupid people problem.</quote> there hasn't been a 80% increase in stupid people, but there has been an 80% increase in pedestrian deaths</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/06/18 3:24:14 PM #73:	It is possible both for pedestrians to make mistakes and for SUVs to make those mistakes more deadly for them. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:904604476] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote>It is possible both for pedestrians to make mistakes and for SUVs to make those mistakes more deadly for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/06/18 3:24:45 PM #74:	clearaflagrantj posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bio1590 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs? Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons Because I'm curious if SUVs save any lives rather than just take them SUVs are more dangerous generally speaking, I read that it's better for children to get hit by SUVs/vans because their front is flatter so it's like getting hit by a wall, whereas when a kid gets hit by a sedan it's like a giant baseball bat that smacks them in the neck/head. That was from some random drivers ed VHS though so it's probably outdated Consider the topic you're literally posting in. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:904604498] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs?</quote> Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons</quote> Because I'm curious if SUVs save any lives rather than just take them</quote> SUVs are more dangerous generally speaking, I read that it's better for children to get hit by SUVs/vans because their front is flatter so it's like getting hit by a wall, whereas when a kid gets hit by a sedan it's like a giant baseball bat that smacks them in the neck/head. That was from some random drivers ed VHS though so it's probably outdated</quote> Consider the topic you're literally posting in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/06/18 3:26:27 PM #75:	I'm a member of a transit-centric facebook group (New-Urbanist Memes for Transit Oriented Teens, or NUMTOT) and this topic reminds me of when someone said there should be mandatory speed limiters on cars because slower cars mean less chance of death --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904604584] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote>I'm a member of a transit-centric facebook group (New-Urbanist Memes for Transit Oriented Teens, or NUMTOT) and this topic reminds me of when someone said there should be mandatory speed limiters on cars because slower cars mean less chance of death</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmidgeIsntBack 07/06/18 3:30:04 PM #76:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Balrog0 posted... jaywalking laws are bullshit anyway fuckin big auto industry criminalizing using my own two feet on public spaces it's the local government that makes and enforces those laws, aint it? You should look into how cars were adapted into society. The automotive industry had to almost indoctrinate people into accepting how useful they were. --- Audio Theater: For discussion of podcasts, radio, audiobooks, and the like https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1364- <cite>SmidgeIsntBack posted [p:904604786] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>jaywalking laws are bullshit anyway fuckin big auto industry criminalizing using my own two feet on public spaces</quote> it's the local government that makes and enforces those laws, aint it?</quote> You should look into how cars were adapted into society. The automotive industry had to almost indoctrinate people into accepting how useful they were.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 07/06/18 3:33:43 PM #77:	Bio1590 posted... clearaflagrantj posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bio1590 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs? Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons Because I'm curious if SUVs save any lives rather than just take them SUVs are more dangerous generally speaking, I read that it's better for children to get hit by SUVs/vans because their front is flatter so it's like getting hit by a wall, whereas when a kid gets hit by a sedan it's like a giant baseball bat that smacks them in the neck/head. That was from some random drivers ed VHS though so it's probably outdated Consider the topic you're literally posting in. What point are you trying to make <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:904604964] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>How many people who were in car crashes where the SUV was not at fault survived the collision but would've likely died if their car wasn't an SUV? How would autonomous driving reduce these figures regardless of whether or not we're talking about sedans vs SUVs?</quote> Why are you talking about multi-vehicle collisions in a topic about pedestrian-vehicle collisons</quote> Because I'm curious if SUVs save any lives rather than just take them</quote> SUVs are more dangerous generally speaking, I read that it's better for children to get hit by SUVs/vans because their front is flatter so it's like getting hit by a wall, whereas when a kid gets hit by a sedan it's like a giant baseball bat that smacks them in the neck/head. That was from some random drivers ed VHS though so it's probably outdated</quote> Consider the topic you're literally posting in.</quote> What point are you trying to make</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 07/06/18 3:36:57 PM #78:	Payzmaykr posted... 99.9% of the people who own SUVs dont need them and never use the extra space. My Subaru Outback is classified as a station wagon, but it is just as capable as the other oversized SUVs (which should be forced to park in the WAY back of parking lots). We need the leg room and I have kids. Most people who buy them have two or three kids rattling around in a vast backseat. Youre getting less than 10mph. Just admit that you made a bad buy. Less than 10MPG? My lifted and heavy Jeep TJ gets 18MPG... there is no way a 'modern' SUV gets 10MPG. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:904605163] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Payzmaykr posted...</cite> <quote>99.9% of the people who own SUVs dont need them and never use the extra space. My Subaru Outback is classified as a station wagon, but it is just as capable as the other oversized SUVs (which should be forced to park in the WAY back of parking lots). We need the leg room and I have kids. Most people who buy them have two or three kids rattling around in a vast backseat. Youre getting less than 10mph. Just admit that you made a bad buy.</quote> Less than 10MPG? My lifted and heavy Jeep TJ gets 18MPG... there is no way a 'modern' SUV gets 10MPG.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 07/06/18 3:39:52 PM #79:	Ill always prefer cars. I dont have to climb literal steps to get into my vehicle. And the difference in mileage in dollars terms is very significant. --- I am basically am I. Well, basically. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:904605328] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote>Ill always prefer cars. I dont have to climb literal steps to get into my vehicle. And the difference in mileage in dollars terms is very significant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 07/06/18 3:42:47 PM #80:	HylianFox posted... Ah, classic Anyway I hate SUVs for the simple reason that whenever I go to the store I always end up wedged between two SUVs that I can't f*ing see around. Get those massive pieces of s* off the road!!! Get a HD truck like a F-350. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:904605478] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote>Ah, classic Anyway I hate SUVs for the simple reason that whenever I go to the store I always end up wedged between two SUVs that I can't f*ing see around. Get those massive pieces of s* off the road!!!</quote> Get a HD truck like a F-350.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 07/06/18 3:50:11 PM #81:	Balrog0 posted... HiddenLurker posted... Many who died were males, were jaywalking or had alcohol in their systems on multilane roads in urban areas at night. Some might have been distracted, just as vehicle drivers could have been, by texting or talking on cellphones, although data is lacking to quantify distraction. Tis not a car problem but a stupid people problem. there hasn't been a 80% increase in stupid people, but there has been an 80% increase in pedestrian deaths Jaywalking - people in a rush or whatever to use crosswalks and wait for light. Drunk - people drinking Playing Candy Crush or Pokemon Go - people too busy looking at screen then around All people problems. All avoidable by either waiting for light or getting a Taxi/Uber. --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:904605876] in America's ... [t:76782928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HiddenLurker posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Many who died were males, were jaywalking or had alcohol in their systems on multilane roads in urban areas at night. Some might have been distracted, just as vehicle drivers could have been, by texting or talking on cellphones, although data is lacking to quantify distraction.</quote> Tis not a car problem but a stupid people problem.</quote> there hasn't been a 80% increase in stupid people, but there has been an 80% increase in pedestrian deaths</quote> Jaywalking - people in a rush or whatever to use crosswalks and wait for light. Drunk - people drinking Playing Candy Crush or Pokemon Go - people too busy looking at screen then around All people problems. All avoidable by either waiting for light or getting a Taxi/Uber.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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