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FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 1:54:27 PM #1:	https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/07/hello-full-employment/564527/?single_page=true This morning, the Labor Department announced that the national unemployment rate ticked up to 4 percent in June for good reasons, as hundreds of thousands more Americans sought work. For the first time in recorded history, the number of job openings is higher than the number of people looking for a job. That has raised hopes that wage growth might finally begin to pick up, with employers bidding more to attract new workers and offering raises to retain their existing staff. Full employment that magical economic state, in which everyone who wants work has it, and at a good wage too finally seems to be near. In much of Iowa, it already is. Out of every 100 people who want a job, 98 or 99 have one. The rate of wage growth has doubled of late, and businesses are scrambling to find workers. It does feel like things are a little different in the last year, Elisabeth Buck, the president of the United Way of Central Iowa, told me. Businesses are getting a little desperate. In that, Des Moines and the surrounding area stand as an example of what might be coming for the national economy, both good and bad. Full employment has a remarkable way of improving the lives of low-wage workers and drawing new individuals into the labor force. But it also exposes the scars that even a very hot economy is unable to heal. Around the country, and especially in central Iowa, the low unemployment rate has slowly but surely tipped the balance of power away from employers and towards workers, who here in the Hawkeye State have been able to demand higher wages, better working conditions, more generous benefits, training programs, and myriad other perks. From a per-capita [population] perspective, we are the fastest-growing metro in the entire Midwest, said Mary Bontrager, an executive at the Greater Des Moines Partnership, a regional economic-development group. In terms of GDP, were outpacing every other Midwestern metropolitan area. Competition for workers has gone crazy, Joe McConville, who co-owns a popular chain of made-from-scratch pizza restaurants, told me. At almost every restaurant that Ive worked at, you always had a stack of applications waiting, he said. Youd call somebody up and half the time they're still looking for an extra job. Thats not happening anymore. He said he faced a black hole in terms of finding more experienced twenty-something employees, and that to compete he has paid out higher wages and added vacation days. More than that, Iowas tight labor market has forced employers to offer training, reach out to new populations of workers, and accept applications from workers they might not have before expanding and up-skilling the labor pool as a whole as a result. Their attitude really seems to be changing, said Soneeta Mangra-Dutcher of Central Iowa Works, a workforce-development nonprofit. They are looking at populations differently, who they should be looking at when they have jobs to fill, or people being screened out for things that really don't have an effect on the job. Among those seeing more success getting hired are the formerly incarcerated. When the jobless rate is high, most businesses refuse to look at applications from individuals who have spent time in prison even for non-violent offenses, or for incidents that might have occurred years and years earlier. That was what Clifford Salmond found after being released a few years ago. I couldn't find a decent job because of my background and my past. I've had alcohol problems, drug problems, incarceration problems, he told me while he ate breakfast at a local McDonalds. Once I got that behind me, I still found finding employment pretty hard. He found work washing dishes, but became unemployed again after the restaurant he was working at closed down. Continued in next post. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904599657] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/07/hello-full-employment/564527/?single_page=true This morning, the Labor Department announced that the national unemployment rate ticked up to 4 percent in June for good reasons, as hundreds of thousands more Americans sought work. For the first time in recorded history, the number of job openings is higher than the number of people looking for a job. That has raised hopes that wage growth might finally begin to pick up, with employers bidding more to attract new workers and offering raises to retain their existing staff. Full employment that magical economic state, in which everyone who wants work has it, and at a good wage too finally seems to be near. In much of Iowa, it already is. Out of every 100 people who want a job, 98 or 99 have one. The rate of wage growth has doubled of late, and businesses are scrambling to find workers. It does feel like things are a little different in the last year, Elisabeth Buck, the president of the United Way of Central Iowa, told me. Businesses are getting a little desperate. In that, Des Moines and the surrounding area stand as an example of what might be coming for the national economy, both good and bad. Full employment has a remarkable way of improving the lives of low-wage workers and drawing new individuals into the labor force. But it also exposes the scars that even a very hot economy is unable to heal. Around the country, and especially in central Iowa, the low unemployment rate has slowly but surely tipped the balance of power away from employers and towards workers, who here in the Hawkeye State have been able to demand higher wages, better working conditions, more generous benefits, training programs, and myriad other perks. From a per-capita [population] perspective, we are the fastest-growing metro in the entire Midwest, said Mary Bontrager, an executive at the Greater Des Moines Partnership, a regional economic-development group. In terms of GDP, were outpacing every other Midwestern metropolitan area. Competition for workers has gone crazy, Joe McConville, who co-owns a popular chain of made-from-scratch pizza restaurants, told me. At almost every restaurant that Ive worked at, you always had a stack of applications waiting, he said. Youd call somebody up and half the time they're still looking for an extra job. Thats not happening anymore. He said he faced a black hole in terms of finding more experienced twenty-something employees, and that to compete he has paid out higher wages and added vacation days. More than that, Iowas tight labor market has forced employers to offer training, reach out to new populations of workers, and accept applications from workers they might not have before expanding and up-skilling the labor pool as a whole as a result. Their attitude really seems to be changing, said Soneeta Mangra-Dutcher of Central Iowa Works, a workforce-development nonprofit. They are looking at populations differently, who they should be looking at when they have jobs to fill, or people being screened out for things that really don't have an effect on the job. Among those seeing more success getting hired are the formerly incarcerated. When the jobless rate is high, most businesses refuse to look at applications from individuals who have spent time in prison even for non-violent offenses, or for incidents that might have occurred years and years earlier. That was what Clifford Salmond found after being released a few years ago. I couldn't find a decent job because of my background and my past. I've had alcohol problems, drug problems, incarceration problems, he told me while he ate breakfast at a local McDonalds. Once I got that behind me, I still found finding employment pretty hard. He found work washing dishes, but became unemployed again after the restaurant he was working at closed down. Continued in next post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 1:55:21 PM #2:	But his daughter connected him with a training program, which he completed. In time, that led to a position at a factory in Des Moines. I take the raw rubber and I break it down, he explained. I send it over to be [combined] in a machine with fabric. That leaves the machine, and goes to the tire builders, and they build the tire. He said the work was hot, dirty, and physically exhausting, but still that he loved the job, where he now earns $21 an hour, as well as health benefits. Younger and older workers have also found more success, labor experts in central Iowa said. Businesses are accepting applications from high-schoolers and retirees who want to come back to work and are providing on-site education and accommodations like flexible schedules too. Mollie Frideres is the human-resources director at Green Hills Retirement Community in Ames, just north of Des Moines. The company normally hires a number of Iowa State students interested in healthcare, she told me. But of late, it has found that the good economy has meant fewer undergrads need a job. It has raised wages, but still found itself short. Thus, it has started a program with the local high school, Frideres said, training the workers the business needs. The teenagers require a little more hand-holding, given that they are less experienced and perhaps a little less mature than college kids, Frideres told me. We are in the process of developing some classes or training programs on social skills or soft skills for them, she said. You know: What is professionalism? What are our expectations? But they had filled the gap, she said. Younger workers with more or harder barriers to the workforce were finding more luck, too. What Ive seen in the past two years is employers really forcing and I really mean it when I use that word forcing themselves to be more nimble, said Laurie Phelan, who heads Iowa Jobs for Americas Graduates, or iJAG. It is an initiative that seeks to prevent drop-outs and help students transition to work, aimed at kids who have grown up in poverty. She said businesses were more willing to grow their diversity IQ, and to look at their expectations for education and their willingness to spend time in mentoring and shepherding this new young workforce into their world. Refugee and immigrant workers including those with literacy or language challenges, or a lack of credentials were also getting drawn in and picked up. A little over a year ago, I hired a woman that focuses on this kind of high-touch service, Bontrager told me. She has 40-some clients were working with, specifically on helping them work through some of their barriers, whether that's going back and recertifying in something [here in the United States], or working on the language skills, or working on how to present themselves their resumes, how to interview. All of those kinds of things. Companies are really being very receptive to taking a little more time, if you will, in the hiring process. The fierce competition for hiring has led to both a drop in the unemployment rate and a rebound in the prime-age employment-to-population ratio in Iowa. It has also raised the specter of labor shortages, with businesses simply unable to find experienced workers to fill their positions. There are not a lot of welders sitting around looking for work. The construction trades, the roofers, the framers, the dry-wallers, said Dan Culhane, the president of the Ames Chamber of Commerce. Those are [workforce] challenges that Ames and Story County and Des Moines face. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904599709] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>But his daughter connected him with a training program, which he completed. In time, that led to a position at a factory in Des Moines. I take the raw rubber and I break it down, he explained. I send it over to be [combined] in a machine with fabric. That leaves the machine, and goes to the tire builders, and they build the tire. He said the work was hot, dirty, and physically exhausting, but still that he loved the job, where he now earns $21 an hour, as well as health benefits. Younger and older workers have also found more success, labor experts in central Iowa said. Businesses are accepting applications from high-schoolers and retirees who want to come back to work and are providing on-site education and accommodations like flexible schedules too. Mollie Frideres is the human-resources director at Green Hills Retirement Community in Ames, just north of Des Moines. The company normally hires a number of Iowa State students interested in healthcare, she told me. But of late, it has found that the good economy has meant fewer undergrads need a job. It has raised wages, but still found itself short. Thus, it has started a program with the local high school, Frideres said, training the workers the business needs. The teenagers require a little more hand-holding, given that they are less experienced and perhaps a little less mature than college kids, Frideres told me. We are in the process of developing some classes or training programs on social skills or soft skills for them, she said. You know: What is professionalism? What are our expectations? But they had filled the gap, she said. Younger workers with more or harder barriers to the workforce were finding more luck, too. What Ive seen in the past two years is employers really forcing and I really mean it when I use that word forcing themselves to be more nimble, said Laurie Phelan, who heads Iowa Jobs for Americas Graduates, or iJAG. It is an initiative that seeks to prevent drop-outs and help students transition to work, aimed at kids who have grown up in poverty. She said businesses were more willing to grow their diversity IQ, and to look at their expectations for education and their willingness to spend time in mentoring and shepherding this new young workforce into their world. Refugee and immigrant workers including those with literacy or language challenges, or a lack of credentials were also getting drawn in and picked up. A little over a year ago, I hired a woman that focuses on this kind of high-touch service, Bontrager told me. She has 40-some clients were working with, specifically on helping them work through some of their barriers, whether that's going back and recertifying in something [here in the United States], or working on the language skills, or working on how to present themselves their resumes, how to interview. All of those kinds of things. Companies are really being very receptive to taking a little more time, if you will, in the hiring process. The fierce competition for hiring has led to both a drop in the unemployment rate and a rebound in the prime-age employment-to-population ratio in Iowa. It has also raised the specter of labor shortages, with businesses simply unable to find experienced workers to fill their positions. There are not a lot of welders sitting around looking for work. The construction trades, the roofers, the framers, the dry-wallers, said Dan Culhane, the president of the Ames Chamber of Commerce. Those are [workforce] challenges that Ames and Story County and Des Moines face.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/06/18 1:55:47 PM #3:	awesome --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904599734] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>awesome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 1:56:53 PM #4:	What the economy needed was more stimulus so businesses could expand. Because that means more need for labor. Which means that you need to attract people to come work for you, in the form of better pay, benefits, and good working conditions. When the labor market is saturated with a bunch of people who can do the same job as you, you can't leverage your way into higher pay since you're competing with a ton of other people. "B-b-b-b-but socialism!111" --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904599800] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>What the economy needed was more stimulus so businesses could expand. Because that means more need for labor. Which means that you need to attract people to come work for you, in the form of better pay, benefits, and good working conditions. When the labor market is saturated with a bunch of people who can do the same job as you, you can't leverage your way into higher pay since you're competing with a ton of other people. "B-b-b-b-but socialism!111"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/06/18 1:58:30 PM #5:	You posted an article that centers on Iowa. Fucking lol. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904599896] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>You posted an article that centers on Iowa. Fucking lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistalightbulb 07/06/18 1:58:47 PM #6:	Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts <cite>mistalightbulb posted [p:904599908] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/06/18 2:00:34 PM #7:	mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts Not to mention as automation inches closer with each passing day labor will be the first to take a slap to the face. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904599995] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> Not to mention as automation inches closer with each passing day labor will be the first to take a slap to the face.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:01:30 PM #9:	mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904600043] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 07/06/18 2:02:33 PM #10:	Every time that President Trump excels like this, it makes obama look worse. --- Make America great again! <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:904600100] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>Every time that President Trump excels like this, it makes obama look worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:02:38 PM #11:	Zeeak4444 posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts Not to mention as automation inches closer with each passing day labor will be the first to take a slap to the face. Automation is only a good thing. "B-b-b-b-b-ut what do you MEAN there's washing machines and drying machines now? Think of all the washers and dryers that will become unemployed now." --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904600106] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> Not to mention as automation inches closer with each passing day labor will be the first to take a slap to the face.</quote> Automation is only a good thing. "B-b-b-b-b-ut what do you MEAN there's washing machines and drying machines now? Think of all the washers and dryers that will become unemployed now."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/06/18 2:02:47 PM #12:	This is what happens when companies aren't being taxed to death by democrats. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:904600118] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>This is what happens when companies aren't being taxed to death by democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/06/18 2:03:01 PM #13:	FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904600134] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/06/18 2:03:36 PM #14:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts Not to mention as automation inches closer with each passing day labor will be the first to take a slap to the face. Automation is only a good thing. "B-b-b-b-b-ut what do you MEAN there's washing machines and drying machines now? Think of all the washers and dryers that will become unemployed now." I can be deliberately obtuse too when I want to be. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904600152] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> Not to mention as automation inches closer with each passing day labor will be the first to take a slap to the face.</quote> Automation is only a good thing. "B-b-b-b-b-ut what do you MEAN there's washing machines and drying machines now? Think of all the washers and dryers that will become unemployed now."</quote> I can be deliberately obtuse too when I want to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/06/18 2:04:41 PM #15:	If the economy sees the growth that is being projected and that continues to the election, is that enough for trump to pull another term? --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:904600209] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>If the economy sees the growth that is being projected and that continues to the election, is that enough for trump to pull another term?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:04:41 PM #16:	Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight. Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904600211] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight.</quote> Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:04:55 PM #17:	Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts Not to mention as automation inches closer with each passing day labor will be the first to take a slap to the face. Automation is only a good thing. "B-b-b-b-b-ut what do you MEAN there's washing machines and drying machines now? Think of all the washers and dryers that will become unemployed now." I can be deliberately obtuse too when I want to be. You're always obtuse, but I don't know if it's always deliberate. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904600222] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> Not to mention as automation inches closer with each passing day labor will be the first to take a slap to the face.</quote> Automation is only a good thing. "B-b-b-b-b-ut what do you MEAN there's washing machines and drying machines now? Think of all the washers and dryers that will become unemployed now."</quote> I can be deliberately obtuse too when I want to be.</quote> You're always obtuse, but I don't know if it's always deliberate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistalightbulb 07/06/18 2:05:40 PM #18:	FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. The snakes will be the first to go <cite>mistalightbulb posted [p:904600256] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> The snakes will be the first to go</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:05:54 PM #19:	mistalightbulb posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. The snakes will be the first to go What? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904600265] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> The snakes will be the first to go</quote> What?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/06/18 2:06:37 PM #20:	mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts Why does a wealth gap matter more than poor people getting more money Why does a wealth gap matter at all? Who's life is made worse by the fact that Bill Gates has 40 billion dollars? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:904600311] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> Why does a wealth gap matter more than poor people getting more money Why does a wealth gap matter at all? Who's life is made worse by the fact that Bill Gates has 40 billion dollars?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/06/18 2:07:52 PM #21:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight. Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers. Why didn't we choose one of those? Why did we center on a place with the lowest cost of living in the country? No reason, I'm sure. Don't talk about buying power if you're not going to talk about places where that matters. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904600357] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight.</quote> Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers.</quote> Why didn't we choose one of those? Why did we center on a place with the lowest cost of living in the country? No reason, I'm sure. Don't talk about buying power if you're not going to talk about places where that matters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/06/18 2:09:59 PM #22:	FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. The snakes will be the first to go What? He's referring to the Gadsden flag --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:904600453] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> The snakes will be the first to go</quote> What?</quote> He's referring to the Gadsden flag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistalightbulb 07/06/18 2:10:59 PM #23:	No, I'm referring to the poor people who defend the rich. <cite>mistalightbulb posted [p:904600499] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>No, I'm referring to the poor people who defend the rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:18:45 PM #24:	Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight. Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers. Why didn't we choose one of those? Why did we center on a place with the lowest cost of living in the country? No reason, I'm sure. Don't talk about buying power if you're not going to talk about places where that matters. Because the people there got shafted by the recession, sometimes more than other people. Leftists like to brush away "flyover country" but it's the part of the country where people were hit the hardest. This is only phenomenally amazing news, and it's indicative of a trend that is happening across the country as the economy keeps heating up and as labor markets tighten. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904600882] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight.</quote> Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers.</quote> Why didn't we choose one of those? Why did we center on a place with the lowest cost of living in the country? No reason, I'm sure. Don't talk about buying power if you're not going to talk about places where that matters.</quote> Because the people there got shafted by the recession, sometimes more than other people. Leftists like to brush away "flyover country" but it's the part of the country where people were hit the hardest. This is only phenomenally amazing news, and it's indicative of a trend that is happening across the country as the economy keeps heating up and as labor markets tighten.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/06/18 2:19:22 PM #25:	mistalightbulb posted... No, I'm referring to the poor people who defend the rich. Says a guy who doesn't care that poor people are making more money than ever. Sephiroth1288 posted... Why does a wealth gap matter more than poor people getting more money Why does a wealth gap matter at all? Who's life is made worse by the fact that Bill Gates has 40 billion dollars? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:904600912] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>No, I'm referring to the poor people who defend the rich.</quote> Says a guy who doesn't care that poor people are making more money than ever. <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Why does a wealth gap matter more than poor people getting more money Why does a wealth gap matter at all? Who's life is made worse by the fact that Bill Gates has 40 billion dollars?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:20:00 PM #26:	Sephiroth1288 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. The snakes will be the first to go What? He's referring to the Gadsden flag And what is the implication? mistalightbulb posted... No, I'm referring to the poor people who defend the rich. Please stick to posting about steelbooks, because you are demonstrating that you are not capable of having a real discussion on things that require actual critical thinking. What kind of child sees legitimate questions about wealth disparity and comments like this? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904600943] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> The snakes will be the first to go</quote> What?</quote> He's referring to the Gadsden flag</quote> And what is the implication? <cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>No, I'm referring to the poor people who defend the rich.</quote> Please stick to posting about steelbooks, because you are demonstrating that you are not capable of having a real discussion on things that require actual critical thinking. What kind of child sees legitimate questions about wealth disparity and comments like this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 07/06/18 2:20:52 PM #27:	Reeee wealthy people --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:904600986] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>Reeee wealthy people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:21:52 PM #28:	SK8T3R215 posted... Reeee wealthy people --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904601047] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote>Reeee wealthy people</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/06/18 2:24:46 PM #29:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight. Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers. Why didn't we choose one of those? Why did we center on a place with the lowest cost of living in the country? No reason, I'm sure. Don't talk about buying power if you're not going to talk about places where that matters. Because the people there got shafted by the recession, sometimes more than other people. Leftists like to brush away "flyover country" but it's the part of the country where people were hit the hardest. This is only phenomenally amazing news, and it's indicative of a trend that is happening across the country as the economy keeps heating up and as labor markets tighten. We'll see, which is the only thing I've been saying in here. Idk why you have to bring lefitest into this for some reason when it's irrelevant to our discussion but if you're really so deep in identity politics that anyone who disagrees with you is a leftist then here's one who's happy about the message of the article, as I've already stated in this topic. Fucking joke of a user. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904601192] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight.</quote> Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers.</quote> Why didn't we choose one of those? Why did we center on a place with the lowest cost of living in the country? No reason, I'm sure. Don't talk about buying power if you're not going to talk about places where that matters.</quote> Because the people there got shafted by the recession, sometimes more than other people. Leftists like to brush away "flyover country" but it's the part of the country where people were hit the hardest. This is only phenomenally amazing news, and it's indicative of a trend that is happening across the country as the economy keeps heating up and as labor markets tighten.</quote> We'll see, which is the only thing I've been saying in here. Idk why you have to bring lefitest into this for some reason when it's irrelevant to our discussion but if you're really so deep in identity politics that anyone who disagrees with you is a leftist then here's one who's happy about the message of the article, as I've already stated in this topic. Fucking joke of a user.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 2:26:13 PM #30:	Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... mistalightbulb posted... Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings. And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight. Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers. Why didn't we choose one of those? Why did we center on a place with the lowest cost of living in the country? No reason, I'm sure. Don't talk about buying power if you're not going to talk about places where that matters. Because the people there got shafted by the recession, sometimes more than other people. Leftists like to brush away "flyover country" but it's the part of the country where people were hit the hardest. This is only phenomenally amazing news, and it's indicative of a trend that is happening across the country as the economy keeps heating up and as labor markets tighten. We'lll see, which is the only thing I've been saying in here. Idk why you have to bring lefitest into this for some reason when it's irrelevant to our discussion but if you're really that deep in identity politics so anyone who disagrees with you is a leftist than here's one who's happy about the message of the article, as I've already stated in this topic. Fucking joke of a user. There is literally already data that shows that it's occurring across the entire country. In fact the fact that it's occurring this heavily in what you'd otherwise nonchalantly wave away as "flyover country" is stunning and amazing news. LOL at you crying about me being the joke user considering how you entered this topic. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904601265] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>Yet the wealth gap continues to widen. Wonder what happens when that bubble bursts</quote> The distribution of wealth doesn't matter. What matters is the buying power at each level of distribution. In other words, it doesn't matter if the top 1% owns 15% of all the current wealth or 30% of all the current wealth. What matters is what the average person can accomplish with their earnings.</quote> And we choose Iowa where you could buy a 3 story house for 80k? Nothing against the message of the article but let's choose somewhere with a little more weight.</quote> Just because you don't consider a specific example of this phenomena important or of "sufficient weight" doesn't mean it isn't important, bruh. Sorry that The Atlantic isn't publishing just shit about California. You can see these trends across the country due to the strong economy and the demand for workers.</quote> Why didn't we choose one of those? Why did we center on a place with the lowest cost of living in the country? No reason, I'm sure. Don't talk about buying power if you're not going to talk about places where that matters.</quote> Because the people there got shafted by the recession, sometimes more than other people. Leftists like to brush away "flyover country" but it's the part of the country where people were hit the hardest. This is only phenomenally amazing news, and it's indicative of a trend that is happening across the country as the economy keeps heating up and as labor markets tighten.</quote> We'lll see, which is the only thing I've been saying in here. Idk why you have to bring lefitest into this for some reason when it's irrelevant to our discussion but if you're really that deep in identity politics so anyone who disagrees with you is a leftist than here's one who's happy about the message of the article, as I've already stated in this topic. Fucking joke of a user.</quote> There is literally already data that shows that it's occurring across the entire country. In fact the fact that it's occurring this heavily in what you'd otherwise nonchalantly wave away as "flyover country" is stunning and amazing news. LOL at you crying about me being the joke user considering how you entered this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/06/18 2:26:46 PM #31:	K. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904601295] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>K.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/06/18 3:02:12 PM #32:	bump --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904603271] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kruppe 07/06/18 3:07:36 PM #34:	Payzmaykr posted... Every time that President Trump excels like this, it makes obama look worse. How did Trump specifically bring this about? <cite>Kruppe posted [p:904603549] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Payzmaykr posted...</cite> <quote>Every time that President Trump excels like this, it makes obama look worse.</quote> How did Trump specifically bring this about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/06/18 3:09:18 PM #35:	Kruppe posted... Payzmaykr posted... Every time that President Trump excels like this, it makes obama look worse. How did Trump specifically bring this about? By not taxing businesses to death like democrats love to do. Liberals have been brainwashed into believing the evil business owners will hoard all that extra money for themselves, but clearly they haven't. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:904603648] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kruppe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Payzmaykr posted...</cite> <quote>Every time that President Trump excels like this, it makes obama look worse.</quote> How did Trump specifically bring this about?</quote> By not taxing businesses to death like democrats love to do. Liberals have been brainwashed into believing the evil business owners will hoard all that extra money for themselves, but clearly they haven't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kruppe 07/06/18 3:13:02 PM #36:	voldothegr8 posted... Kruppe posted... Payzmaykr posted... Every time that President Trump excels like this, it makes obama look worse. How did Trump specifically bring this about? By not taxing businesses to death like democrats love to do. Liberals have been brainwashed into believing the evil business owners will hoard all that extra money for themselves, but clearly they haven't. Wouldn't credit go to congress then? From all accounts, according to republican congressmen, Trump had basically zero input on the tax bill. <cite>Kruppe posted [p:904603850] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kruppe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Payzmaykr posted...</cite> <quote>Every time that President Trump excels like this, it makes obama look worse.</quote> How did Trump specifically bring this about?</quote> By not taxing businesses to death like democrats love to do. Liberals have been brainwashed into believing the evil business owners will hoard all that extra money for themselves, but clearly they haven't.</quote> Wouldn't credit go to congress then? From all accounts, according to republican congressmen, Trump had basically zero input on the tax bill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/06/18 3:16:40 PM #37:	Baby boomers are retiring and millennial's lack in numbers to replace them. The trucking industry is getting hit hard and business operators are having a hard time finding new workers. My dad is a trucker and he is making more money than me and he works less. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:904604059] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>Baby boomers are retiring and millennial's lack in numbers to replace them. The trucking industry is getting hit hard and business operators are having a hard time finding new workers. My dad is a trucker and he is making more money than me and he works less.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 07/06/18 3:18:34 PM #38:	cerealbox760 posted... Baby boomers are retiring and millennial's lack in numbers to replace them. The trucking industry is getting hit hard and business operators are having a hard time finding new workers. My dad is a trucker and he is making more money than me and he works less. Good. Fuck Boomers <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:904604178] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>Baby boomers are retiring and millennial's lack in numbers to replace them. The trucking industry is getting hit hard and business operators are having a hard time finding new workers. My dad is a trucker and he is making more money than me and he works less.</quote> Good. Fuck Boomers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/06/18 3:19:21 PM #39:	clearaflagrantj posted... cerealbox760 posted... Baby boomers are retiring and millennial's lack in numbers to replace them. The trucking industry is getting hit hard and business operators are having a hard time finding new workers. My dad is a trucker and he is making more money than me and he works less. Good. Fuck Boomers Wait until baby boomers die off. Housing is going to be great for those who waited to buy a house. Edit: And now its race to see who dies first : Baby boomers or the unsustainable social security that will haunt millennials. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:904604214] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>Baby boomers are retiring and millennial's lack in numbers to replace them. The trucking industry is getting hit hard and business operators are having a hard time finding new workers. My dad is a trucker and he is making more money than me and he works less.</quote> Good. Fuck Boomers</quote> Wait until baby boomers die off. Housing is going to be great for those who waited to buy a house. Edit: And now its race to see who dies first : Baby boomers or the unsustainable social security that will haunt millennials.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/06/18 3:23:17 PM #40:	Waiting for the other shoe to drop. I know better than to trust the government. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904604423] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>Waiting for the other shoe to drop. I know better than to trust the government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/06/18 3:34:12 PM #41:	hockeybub89 posted... Waiting for the other shoe to drop. I know better than to trust the government. America is in a delusional honeymoon phase. 10 years of economic growth. A correction is overdue. Trumps tariffs/trade war could very well be the tipping point. If that doesn't do it, the left's reaction to Trump ought to do it. Im selling and saving while I still can because bargain prices are right around the corner. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:904604993] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Waiting for the other shoe to drop. I know better than to trust the government.</quote> America is in a delusional honeymoon phase. 10 years of economic growth. A correction is overdue. Trumps tariffs/trade war could very well be the tipping point. If that doesn't do it, the left's reaction to Trump ought to do it. Im selling and saving while I still can because bargain prices are right around the corner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 07/06/18 3:36:40 PM #42:	http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/oecd-study-labor-conditions-confirms-that-u-s-workers-are-getting-ripped-off.html Despite retiring boomers and increased employment wages still aren't keeping up with inflation tho <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:904605152] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/oecd-study-labor-conditions-confirms-that-u-s-workers-are-getting-ripped-off.html Despite retiring boomers and increased employment wages still aren't keeping up with inflation tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/06/18 3:47:24 PM #43:	Rexdragon125 posted... http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/oecd-study-labor-conditions-confirms-that-u-s-workers-are-getting-ripped-off.html Despite retiring boomers and increased employment wages still aren't keeping up with inflation tho Unfortunately higher wages speed up automation. It wouldn't make sense to pay workers a better wage when software and autonomous machinery do it cheaper. The autonomous revolution is about to get nasty for certain individuals. So it doesn't surprise me to see an increase in socialists <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:904605729] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rexdragon125 posted...</cite> <quote>http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/oecd-study-labor-conditions-confirms-that-u-s-workers-are-getting-ripped-off.html Despite retiring boomers and increased employment wages still aren't keeping up with inflation tho</quote> Unfortunately higher wages speed up automation. It wouldn't make sense to pay workers a better wage when software and autonomous machinery do it cheaper. The autonomous revolution is about to get nasty for certain individuals. So it doesn't surprise me to see an increase in socialists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarLightGlimmR 07/06/18 5:17:51 PM #44:	Spooking posted... Capitalism is why all of us have such wonderful lives. God bless. Most of us anyway LOL Those too lazy are left behind : ( Also WOW that there is legit negativity ITT. The miserable leftists want others to share their pain for some reason. <cite>StarLightGlimmR posted [p:904610484] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism is why all of us have such wonderful lives. God bless.</quote> Most of us anyway LOL Those too lazy are left behind : ( Also WOW that there is legit negativity ITT. The miserable leftists want others to share their pain for some reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/06/18 5:23:19 PM #45:	cerealbox760 posted... Rexdragon125 posted... http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/oecd-study-labor-conditions-confirms-that-u-s-workers-are-getting-ripped-off.html Despite retiring boomers and increased employment wages still aren't keeping up with inflation tho Unfortunately higher wages speed up automation. It wouldn't make sense to pay workers a better wage when software and autonomous machinery do it cheaper. The autonomous revolution is about to get nasty for certain individuals. So it doesn't surprise me to see an increase in socialists Automation has been happening for the past 400 years and the unemployment rate has stayed about the same. Turns out, automation leads to newer, more sophisticated jobs. And once literally everything imaginable is automated, we're then living in a world without scarcity, and neither Capitalism nor Socialism would work. (Well, socialism doesn't work regardless, but you get what I mean) --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:904610778] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rexdragon125 posted...</cite> <quote>http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/oecd-study-labor-conditions-confirms-that-u-s-workers-are-getting-ripped-off.html Despite retiring boomers and increased employment wages still aren't keeping up with inflation tho</quote> Unfortunately higher wages speed up automation. It wouldn't make sense to pay workers a better wage when software and autonomous machinery do it cheaper. The autonomous revolution is about to get nasty for certain individuals. So it doesn't surprise me to see an increase in socialists</quote> Automation has been happening for the past 400 years and the unemployment rate has stayed about the same. Turns out, automation leads to newer, more sophisticated jobs. And once literally everything imaginable is automated, we're then living in a world without scarcity, and neither Capitalism nor Socialism would work. (Well, socialism doesn't work regardless, but you get what I mean)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sondast 07/06/18 5:24:38 PM #46:	Wtf we love The Atlantic now --- Take a lesson from parakeets. If you're ever feeling lonely, just eat in front of a mirror. <cite>sondast posted [p:904610847] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>Wtf we love The Atlantic now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/06/18 5:28:03 PM #47:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Automation has been happening for the past 400 years and the unemployment rate has stayed about the same. Turns out, automation leads to newer, more sophisticated jobs. Not quite. Before it was replacing bodies with bodies for the menial work. Farm machinery made farming easier and those left behind moved to assembly line. As assembly lines got more advance those left behind went into service, such as trucking. We're at a point now where bodies are being replaced by computers and there's nowhere in the foreseeable future where the menial bodies can go. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:904611020] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Automation has been happening for the past 400 years and the unemployment rate has stayed about the same. Turns out, automation leads to newer, more sophisticated jobs. </quote> Not quite. Before it was replacing bodies with bodies for the menial work. Farm machinery made farming easier and those left behind moved to assembly line. As assembly lines got more advance those left behind went into service, such as trucking. We're at a point now where bodies are being replaced by computers and there's nowhere in the foreseeable future where the menial bodies can go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/06/18 5:35:37 PM #48:	voldothegr8 posted... Not quite. Before it was replacing bodies with bodies for the menial work. Farm machinery made farming easier and those left behind moved to assembly line. As assembly lines got more advance those left behind went into service, such as trucking. We're at a point now where bodies are being replaced by computers and there's nowhere in the foreseeable future where the menial bodies can go. ^ Which is exactly what people said when the personal computers became a thing, and look at that, there's still plenty jobs. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:904611425] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Not quite. Before it was replacing bodies with bodies for the menial work. Farm machinery made farming easier and those left behind moved to assembly line. As assembly lines got more advance those left behind went into service, such as trucking. We're at a point now where bodies are being replaced by computers and there's nowhere in the foreseeable future where the menial bodies can go.</quote> ^ Which is exactly what people said when the personal computers became a thing, and look at that, there's still plenty jobs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 07/06/18 5:43:18 PM #49:	If you want to keep the Factories going while still having humans involved, here's an example of how: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/26/mercedes-benz-robots-people-assembly-lines Allow Customers to have detailed customization of their products. Instead of Mass Produced in fixed choices / packages. Force every Car Maker to make on demand a car that is customized in high detail down to whatever the customer wants. If that means things like "Two Tone" Body panel choices, mix & match Leather / Fabric seats, etc. Giving Customers Choice in getting EXACTLY what they want, when they want, then delivered allows the nice balance between Full Automation & Customization while keeping humans employed. In Computers, it can be highly customized down to individual part choices. In Smart Phones, Motorola did that for several years. I own a Highly customized Motorola Smart Phone and it's awesome when it's personalized down to every little detail you choose. Why wouldn't you want customized stuff if given the option and a minimal fee? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904611854] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote>If you want to keep the Factories going while still having humans involved, here's an example of how: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/26/mercedes-benz-robots-people-assembly-lines Allow Customers to have detailed customization of their products. Instead of Mass Produced in fixed choices / packages. Force every Car Maker to make on demand a car that is customized in high detail down to whatever the customer wants. If that means things like "Two Tone" Body panel choices, mix & match Leather / Fabric seats, etc. Giving Customers Choice in getting EXACTLY what they want, when they want, then delivered allows the nice balance between Full Automation & Customization while keeping humans employed. In Computers, it can be highly customized down to individual part choices. In Smart Phones, Motorola did that for several years. I own a Highly customized Motorola Smart Phone and it's awesome when it's personalized down to every little detail you choose. Why wouldn't you want customized stuff if given the option and a minimal fee?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/06/18 5:45:04 PM #50:	Sephiroth1288 posted... voldothegr8 posted... Not quite. Before it was replacing bodies with bodies for the menial work. Farm machinery made farming easier and those left behind moved to assembly line. As assembly lines got more advance those left behind went into service, such as trucking. We're at a point now where bodies are being replaced by computers and there's nowhere in the foreseeable future where the menial bodies can go. ^ Which is exactly what people said when the personal computers became a thing, and look at that, there's still plenty jobs. For now, and they still aren't right or wrong yet. I suspect they'll be right, when the transportation industry gets taken over by self driving vehicles shit will hit the fan. There's already a world of mechanics out there, so where will the menial bodies go? --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:904611970] in The Atlant... [t:76782955]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Not quite. Before it was replacing bodies with bodies for the menial work. Farm machinery made farming easier and those left behind moved to assembly line. As assembly lines got more advance those left behind went into service, such as trucking. We're at a point now where bodies are being replaced by computers and there's nowhere in the foreseeable future where the menial bodies can go.</quote> ^ Which is exactly what people said when the personal computers became a thing, and look at that, there's still plenty jobs.</quote> For now, and they still aren't right or wrong yet. I suspect they'll be right, when the transportation industry gets taken over by self driving vehicles shit will hit the fan. There's already a world of mechanics out there, so where will the menial bodies go?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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