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Sayoria
07/07/18 10:12:31 AM
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Soy farmers are caught in the cross hairs of an escalating trade war that only got hotter Friday after China responded tit-for-tat to a new round of U.S. tariffs.

President Donald Trump slapped the Chinese with $34.6 billion in additional tariffs on top of those previously announced, with China hitting back with $34.6 billion of their own.

In the latest tweet prior to the tariffs going into effect, Trump hammered "unfair" trade deals and said renegotiations "are coming along very well.

Soy represents nearly half of the value of the products on China's tariff list and some U.S. farmers have a different view of how those talks are going.

"The math is simple. You tax soybean exports at 25 percent, and you have serious damage to U.S. farmers, said John Heisdorffer, a soybean grower from Keota, Iowa, and president of the American Soybean Association (ASA), in a statement.

The growers' association said it had asked the administration to consider other ways of reducing the trade deficit and arranged for farmers and members to meet with congressional lawmakers to get the administration to rethink the tariffs. This week, the ASA, "in a last-ditch social media effort," resorted to posting pictures of individual soybean farmers and families on Twitter to appeal to the president and his advisers."


https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/soy-farmers-say-they-re-getting-hurt-trump-s-trade-n889346
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NeonOctopus
07/07/18 10:13:49 AM
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Kruppe
07/07/18 10:13:50 AM
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Delicious irony that soy may be the beginning of the alt rights downfall
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A_Good_Boy
07/07/18 10:14:46 AM
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Sayoria posted...
This week, the ASA, "in a last-ditch social media effort," resorted to posting pictures of individual soybean farmers and families on Twitter to appeal to the president and his advisers."

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Kruppe
07/07/18 10:16:03 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Sayoria posted...
This week, the ASA, "in a last-ditch social media effort," resorted to posting pictures of individual soybean farmers and families on Twitter to appeal to the president and his advisers."

Womp Womp

Flyover America about to learn the hard way that Trump actually doesn't give a fuck about them
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Trigg3rH4ppy
07/07/18 10:16:29 AM
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Sayoria posted...
John Heisdorffer, a soyboy from Keota, Iowa, and president of the American Soyboy Association (ASA)

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Sayoria
07/07/18 10:20:28 AM
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hollow_shrine
07/07/18 10:20:56 AM
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This soyboy meme is still a thing? Like, do people actually believe the science here or is this just trolling?
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NeonOctopus
07/07/18 10:23:45 AM
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hollow_shrine posted...
This soyboy meme is still a thing? Like, do people actually believe the science here or is this just trolling?

Soyboys have mutated Y chromosomes from ingesting such vast amounts of soy in their daily diet that they are shown to have less testosterone and are more liking to seek mates that favor putting them in a cuckold position than most normal-functioning males.
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A_Good_Boy
07/07/18 10:25:03 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
This soyboy meme is still a thing? Like, do people actually believe the science here or is this just trolling?

Soyboys have mutated Y chromosomes from ingesting such vast amounts of soy in their daily diet that they are shown to have less testosterone and are more liking to seek mates favor putting them in a cuckold position than most normal-functioning males.

And to petition the president to lower tariffs so that they protect their livelihoods and soy crops.
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alimajor
07/07/18 10:27:38 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Good. We need less soy boyz in this world

Idk why this made mme laugh so hard but thank you
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KiwiTerraRizing
07/07/18 10:28:07 AM
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And yet theyll still vote for him in 2020.

These are the same people who hate socialism but take massive subsidies from the government.
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Kruppe
07/07/18 10:28:13 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
This soyboy meme is still a thing? Like, do people actually believe the science here or is this just trolling?

Soyboys have mutated Y chromosomes from ingesting such vast amounts of soy in their daily diet that they are shown to have less testosterone and are more liking to seek mates favor putting them in a cuckold position than most normal-functioning males.

And to petition the president to lower tariffs so that they protect their livelihoods and soy crops.

Trump supporters are soyboys. It all makes sense
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MeganMan
07/07/18 10:28:54 AM
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I live in a red state and voted for Trump, I only have one thing to say about this.

WOMP WOMP
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Kruppe
07/07/18 10:31:19 AM
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MeganMan posted...
I live in a red state and voted for Trump, I only have one thing to say about this.

WOMP WOMP

How do you have a ten year old account with less than 50 karma?
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RoboLaserGandhi
07/07/18 10:32:59 AM
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Praying for the soyboys
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MeganManX
07/07/18 10:38:06 AM
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Kruppe posted...
MeganMan posted...
I live in a red state and voted for Trump, I only have one thing to say about this.

WOMP WOMP

How do you have a ten year old account with less than 50 karma?


Why do you have a less than a month old account with 9 karma?

Also, my account isn't 10 years old.
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Kruppe
07/07/18 10:55:05 AM
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MeganManX posted...
Kruppe posted...
MeganMan posted...
I live in a red state and voted for Trump, I only have one thing to say about this.

WOMP WOMP

How do you have a ten year old account with less than 50 karma?


Why do you have a less than a month old account with 9 karma?

Also, my account isn't 10 years old.

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Hexenherz
07/07/18 10:56:19 AM
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Soy beans are Unamerican you only see them in Asian restaurants in soy sauce so who cares if the farms go under.
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Smashingpmkns
07/07/18 10:59:38 AM
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Guess Trump doesn't give a shit about farmers. Who would have thought? Lol
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creativerealms
07/07/18 11:00:51 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
This soyboy meme is still a thing? Like, do people actually believe the science here or is this just trolling?

Soyboys have mutated Y chromosomes from ingesting such vast amounts of soy in their daily diet that they are shown to have less testosterone and are more liking to seek mates that favor putting them in a cuckold position than most normal-functioning males.

Do incels have their own scientific journal now?

Anyway Soyboy is the lamest insult ever and people who use it should be ashamed.
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MedzXVIII
07/07/18 11:02:05 AM
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Thanks Obama
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hollow_shrine
07/07/18 11:04:42 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
Soy beans are Unamerican you only see them in Asian restaurants in soy sauce so who cares if the farms go under.

It's one of our chief agricultural exports and holds up a huge part of American agricultural industry.

Setting aside your apparent ignorance on that issue, there is a deeper issue with your thinking. I don't think you know what patriotism means. I think you're letting untrustworthy pundits redefine your identity to the detriment of actual Americans and their businesses.

creativerealms posted...
Do incels have their own scientific journal now?

I believe that was just the subject of one of Alex Jones's more infamous rants, in which he conflates phytoestrogens with the actual hormone estrogen. Basically, it became another faux scientific avenue for Jones to drum up insecurity about men's masculinity. And if course he began selling supplements to counteract the damaging effects of soy that masculinity.

Deliciously enough, the supplements themselves contained soy. I don't know if I feel the people likely to buy this deserve to be scammed or not. But there is a satisfying irony to it.
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Kineth
07/07/18 11:09:39 AM
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hollow_shrine posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Soy beans are Unamerican you only see them in Asian restaurants in soy sauce so who cares if the farms go under.

It's one of our chief agricultural exports and holds up a huge part of American agricultural industry.

Setting aside your apparent ignorance on that issue, there is a deeper issue with your thinking. I don't think you know what patriotism means. I think you're letting untrustworthy pundits redefine your identity to the detriment of actual Americans and their businesses.


Well said.
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NeonOctopus
07/07/18 11:16:03 AM
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creativerealms posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
This soyboy meme is still a thing? Like, do people actually believe the science here or is this just trolling?

Soyboys have mutated Y chromosomes from ingesting such vast amounts of soy in their daily diet that they are shown to have less testosterone and are more liking to seek mates that favor putting them in a cuckold position than most normal-functioning males.

Do incels have their own scientific journal now?

Anyway Soyboy is the lamest insult ever and people who use it should be ashamed.

Look at this soyboy lawl
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E32005
07/07/18 11:17:34 AM
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M_Live posted...
Kruppe posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Sayoria posted...
This week, the ASA, "in a last-ditch social media effort," resorted to posting pictures of individual soybean farmers and families on Twitter to appeal to the president and his advisers."

Womp Womp

Flyover America about to learn the hard way that Trump actually doesn't give a fuck about them

Republicans in general do not care about them in the slightest, but they sure do love their Republicans. I never understood it.

mass delusion; basically.
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Damn_Underscore
07/07/18 11:21:07 AM
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Thanks Trump for saving is from the soy
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A_Good_Boy
07/07/18 11:21:30 AM
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E32005 posted...
M_Live posted...
Kruppe posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Sayoria posted...
This week, the ASA, "in a last-ditch social media effort," resorted to posting pictures of individual soybean farmers and families on Twitter to appeal to the president and his advisers."

Womp Womp

Flyover America about to learn the hard way that Trump actually doesn't give a fuck about them

Republicans in general do not care about them in the slightest, but they sure do love their Republicans. I never understood it.

mass delusion; basically.

No, it's because Republicans promise to either leave them alone or enact policy that protects their jobs. There's also the Republican promise of making life considerably tougher for the groups of people that they have a moral gripe with being icing on the cake for them as well.
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ElatedVenusaur
07/07/18 11:24:32 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
And yet theyll still vote for him in 2020.

These are the same people who hate socialism but take massive subsidies from the government.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/21/622044032/got-lobster-trumps-steel-tariffs-threaten-trap-industry
I'll quote the end of the article.
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Morris says he's hoping Trump has a strategy that's going to pan out that the tariffs will strengthen the economy in the long run.

"I'm going to bear the brunt of it, I'm going to hope and pray for the best for our country, our corporations like Riverdale and the workers there, the fishermen, everybody. But if it goes awry, I'll stand and I'll be the first one to admit that I was wrong in supporting that."

For now, he says, he's putting his faith in the president.

Their entire world view depends on Trump being some kind of ubermensch chess master who already won 16 moves ago. That, or they don't mind getting screwed as long as the president is white.
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thronedfire2
07/07/18 11:25:29 AM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
And yet theyll still vote for him in 2020.

These are the same people who hate socialism but take massive subsidies from the government.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/21/622044032/got-lobster-trumps-steel-tariffs-threaten-trap-industry
I'll quote the end of the article.
NPR
Morris says he's hoping Trump has a strategy that's going to pan out that the tariffs will strengthen the economy in the long run.

"I'm going to bear the brunt of it, I'm going to hope and pray for the best for our country, our corporations like Riverdale and the workers there, the fishermen, everybody. But if it goes awry, I'll stand and I'll be the first one to admit that I was wrong in supporting that."

For now, he says, he's putting his faith in the president.

Their entire world view depends on Trump being some kind of ubermensch chess master who already won 16 moves ago. That, or they don't mind getting screwed as long as the president is white.


Everyone send your thoughts and prayers to the economy! That will surely help it
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Darksaber310
07/07/18 11:34:28 AM
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I don't know how else you bring someone back to the table who's already bent you over it in previous deals. Of course China will counter tariff, it's still cheaper than renegotiating our trade terms to a more reasonable degree for them, and it gives them some wiggle room to negotiate a better deal as well.

My curiosity is what exactly did you expect when he told you he was fixing trade? A phone call to the country making out like a bandit to reassess terms? Lul.
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Hulkasaurusrex
07/07/18 11:39:04 AM
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You think saint hillary would do better its your government not your reps.
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Raptornado
07/07/18 11:39:58 AM
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Those farmers never thought the leopards would eat THEIR faces.
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Hexenherz
07/07/18 2:02:50 PM
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Kineth posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Soy beans are Unamerican you only see them in Asian restaurants in soy sauce so who cares if the farms go under.

It's one of our chief agricultural exports and holds up a huge part of American agricultural industry.

Setting aside your apparent ignorance on that issue, there is a deeper issue with your thinking. I don't think you know what patriotism means. I think you're letting untrustworthy pundits redefine your identity to the detriment of actual Americans and their businesses.


Well said.

we don't need soy we just need corn and beef. Like real americans.

edit and maybe pork.
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TheSextMachine
07/07/18 2:24:21 PM
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Kruppe posted...
Flyover America about to learn the hard way that Trump actually doesn't give a fuck about them

So just like the shitty democrats?
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A_Good_Boy
07/07/18 2:26:02 PM
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TheSextMachine posted...
Kruppe posted...
Flyover America about to learn the hard way that Trump actually doesn't give a fuck about them

So just like the shitty democrats?

How so?
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TheSextMachine
07/07/18 2:36:01 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
How so?

So you are denying that democrats just think of middle America as flyover states filled with rednecks and racists, a basket of deplorables if you will.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/07/18 2:39:36 PM
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Kruppe posted...
Delicious irony that soy may be the beginning of the alt rights downfall


Indeed
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kingdrake2
07/07/18 2:39:59 PM
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he says it's not a 10 year account which is it. if you say anything less then 9 you are wrong.
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Polycosm
07/07/18 2:41:24 PM
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Krojen
07/07/18 2:44:26 PM
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Time for soy farmers to borrow money from their parents to go to college and learn a new skill.
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A_Good_Boy
07/07/18 3:30:13 PM
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TheSextMachine posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
How so?

So you are denying that democrats just think of middle America as flyover states filled with rednecks and racists, a basket of deplorables if you will.

Is the question really that hard to answer?
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TheSextMachine
07/07/18 3:40:16 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
TheSextMachine posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
How so?

So you are denying that democrats just think of middle America as flyover states filled with rednecks and racists, a basket of deplorables if you will.

Is the question really that hard to answer?

That is the answer. The left thinks middle America is nothing but racist rednecks. They don't give a shit about them, just like Trump supposedly doesn't.
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TheCyborgNinja
07/07/18 3:43:24 PM
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Lol if children in cages don't matter, why will pictures of sad farmers? Trump is as much a man of the people as Tsar Nicholas II.
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