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mehmeh1
07/07/18 2:22:37 PM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
Lmao, how many episodes of this kids show have black people gotten banned?

the jynx episodes in the first few seasons
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Webmaster4531
07/07/18 2:26:10 PM
#53:


CM_Ponch posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
It does.

Please suicide your account, I think I'm clever.

If you're afraid to post a picture, describe the characteristics of blackface

It's literally in the name.

You don't actually know what blackface is

It's literally in the name.

I guess, I can reference Soul Man safely. Is that not black face?
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KStateKing17
07/07/18 2:28:23 PM
#54:


BLAKUboy posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
Jinx was without a doubt an example of blackface.

It actually wasn't. It's based on a subset of Japanese culture that has nothing to do with blackface. It does, however, end up looking like blackface.

This though doesn't look remotely like blackface, and it is more telling of the people that see blackface in a monkey costume than it is of the episode in question.

I looked up images and descriptions for what jynx is supposed to be based off of and I'm still confused about where the black skin and clown lips are coming from.
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Capn Circus
07/07/18 2:28:38 PM
#55:


ChainedRedone posted...
Are you going to blame this on sjw liberlols now?


Who else would ban an episode of Pokemon?
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KStateKing17
07/07/18 2:29:58 PM
#56:


Capn Circus posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Are you going to blame this on sjw liberlols now?


Who else would ban an episode of Pokemon?

The fcc
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ProtoManSPx
07/07/18 2:32:01 PM
#57:


Webmaster4531 posted...
His feet and hands aren't painted in that video. They could have cut the paintbrush scene and recolored Ash's face back to his normal skin color.

Yeah. This was an easy fix.
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masterpug53
07/07/18 2:59:43 PM
#58:


>expected the reason to be either seizure-inducing lightshow or obvious sexualization of a minor

>was actually surprised

>but probably shouldn't have been
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Dragon56
07/07/18 3:13:30 PM
#59:


fair, next
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Teenman
07/07/18 3:15:10 PM
#60:


KStateKing17 posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
Jinx was without a doubt an example of blackface.

It actually wasn't. It's based on a subset of Japanese culture that has nothing to do with blackface. It does, however, end up looking like blackface.

This though doesn't look remotely like blackface, and it is more telling of the people that see blackface in a monkey costume than it is of the episode in question.

I looked up images and descriptions for what jynx is supposed to be based off of and I'm still confused about where the black skin and clown lips are coming from.


It has nothing to do with black people. Stop using your western ideals when looking at an eastern culture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganguro
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nemu
07/07/18 3:27:48 PM
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Why is it that everything has to be tied back to a practice that has been dead for a very long time? I doubt anyone has held an official minstrel show outside of maybe a private KKK meeting in decades, if not close to 100 years. Yes, the practice is offensive, but the act of someone painting their face black is not blackface in that context. If someone professionally paints their face to dress as Obama, they are not doing that to mock the Obama or the features of black people. I'm sure there have been people who have done the blackface stereotype as a costume, and people would be right to be offended at that particular depiction.
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PostCrisisJ2
07/07/18 3:29:30 PM
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I wonder if it has something to do with the dub airing on DisneyXD, and you know how, erm, particular Disney can be about this sort of thing due to their own history (like us never seeing any release of Songs of the South ever). Though honestly, they could've just edited Ash's face to be not colored, but I guess that wouldn't have been worth the effort.

I have a feeling if they just aired the episode no one would've complained, but I guess they didn't want to risk that sort of thing in Current Year.
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CM_Ponch
07/07/18 4:26:52 PM
#63:


Webmaster4531 posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
It does.

Please suicide your account, I think I'm clever.

If you're afraid to post a picture, describe the characteristics of blackface

It's literally in the name.

You don't actually know what blackface is

It's literally in the name.

I guess, I can reference Soul Man safely. Is that not black face?

That's blackface, can you seriously not see the difference between that and Ash
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/07/18 4:27:39 PM
#64:


Come on Pokemon, your better then this.
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CM_Ponch
07/07/18 4:30:00 PM
#65:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Come on Pokemon, your better then this.

They literally did nothing wrong
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/07/18 4:31:51 PM
#66:


I mean they are better then having Ash do something so dumb, not the whole black face thing which is something Japan has done for a long time.
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CM_Ponch
07/07/18 4:34:21 PM
#67:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
I mean they are better then having Ash do something so dumb, not the whole black face thing which is something Japan has done for a long time.

The Alola series as a whole has regressed Ash's character
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smoke_break
07/07/18 4:35:35 PM
#68:


nemu posted...
Why is it that everything has to be tied back to a practice that has been dead for a very long time?

Blackface in entertainment actually still happens. Japan has done it on a number of occasions in recent times.
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nemu
07/07/18 4:38:09 PM
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smoke_break posted...
nemu posted...
Why is it that everything has to be tied back to a practice that has been dead for a very long time?

Blackface in entertainment actually still happens. Japan has done it on a number of occasions in recent times.

What kind of blackface? Actual mocking blackface, or "let's get offended over the notion of someone putting black makeup on their face with no ill intentions" blackface?
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smoke_break
07/07/18 4:41:08 PM
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nemu posted...
smoke_break posted...
nemu posted...
Why is it that everything has to be tied back to a practice that has been dead for a very long time?

Blackface in entertainment actually still happens. Japan has done it on a number of occasions in recent times.

What kind of blackface? Actual mocking blackface, or "let's get offended over the notion of someone putting black makeup on their face with no ill intentions" blackface?

Blackface is blackface.

Here's an instance of it still happening.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42561815
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CM_Ponch
07/07/18 4:50:10 PM
#71:


smoke_break posted...
nemu posted...
smoke_break posted...
nemu posted...
Why is it that everything has to be tied back to a practice that has been dead for a very long time?

Blackface in entertainment actually still happens. Japan has done it on a number of occasions in recent times.

What kind of blackface? Actual mocking blackface, or "let's get offended over the notion of someone putting black makeup on their face with no ill intentions" blackface?

Blackface is blackface.

Here's an instance of it still happening.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42561815

No, in the US blackface is a throwback to minstrel days, in Japan it's nothing more than make up
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Cheater87
07/07/18 4:54:57 PM
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RainShower
07/07/18 5:00:46 PM
#73:


look at how black people are ruining your precious cartoons.........
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KStateKing17
07/07/18 5:08:55 PM
#74:


Teenman posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
Jinx was without a doubt an example of blackface.

It actually wasn't. It's based on a subset of Japanese culture that has nothing to do with blackface. It does, however, end up looking like blackface.

This though doesn't look remotely like blackface, and it is more telling of the people that see blackface in a monkey costume than it is of the episode in question.

I looked up images and descriptions for what jynx is supposed to be based off of and I'm still confused about where the black skin and clown lips are coming from.


It has nothing to do with black people. Stop using your western ideals when looking at an eastern culture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganguro

I appreciate you linking the source. It wasn't directly mentioned in the Jynx description.
Edit: blackface is still a related article though
nemu posted...
Why is it that everything has to be tied back to a practice that has been dead for a very long time? I doubt anyone has held an official minstrel show outside of maybe a private KKK meeting in decades, if not close to 100 years. Yes, the practice is offensive, but the act of someone painting their face black is not blackface in that context. If someone professionally paints their face to dress as Obama, they are not doing that to mock the Obama or the features of black people. I'm sure there have been people who have done the blackface stereotype as a costume, and people would be right to be offended at that particular depiction.

Someone got in trouble for putting makeup on with a caption saying how black she was at a university near here a couple years ago. It does still happen unfortunately.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/07/18 5:09:13 PM
#75:


CM_Ponch posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
It does.

Please suicide your account, I think I'm clever.

...You'd look much better if you simply admitted that you can't find something.

You think posting black face wouldn't get moderated?

So you're claiming a picture of blackface would get modded, but the picture in the op you're claiming is blackface has not been modded.

Got him!
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nemu
07/07/18 5:10:10 PM
#76:


smoke_break posted...
nemu posted...
smoke_break posted...
nemu posted...
Why is it that everything has to be tied back to a practice that has been dead for a very long time?

Blackface in entertainment actually still happens. Japan has done it on a number of occasions in recent times.

What kind of blackface? Actual mocking blackface, or "let's get offended over the notion of someone putting black makeup on their face with no ill intentions" blackface?

Blackface is blackface.

Here's an instance of it still happening.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42561815

No, it's people getting offended over nothing, if there is no offense meant. If it is not an attempt to mock black people and there is no unintentional racism, there is nothing to be offended about. Lumping all instances of painting a person's face into a very specific and very old form of mockery is disingenuous and stupid.
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Webmaster4531
07/07/18 5:16:37 PM
#77:


Another person who doesn't get blackface is literally in the name.
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nemu
07/07/18 5:24:11 PM
#78:


Webmaster4531 posted...
Another person who doesn't get blackface is literally in the name.

And? In itself, it is not inherently racist. The racist part is the decades of mockery of a very specific style of makeup and acting. You can say that it's a sensitive subject for sure, but to cry outrage at every single instance without at all looking at the context of each instance is insanity. If an Asian person, in ignorance or on purpose, put on minstrel show makeup and perpetuated various stereotypes, that would be offensive. If an Asian person simply puts on black makeup for the purpose of a role that in no way mocks black people, then there is nothing at all offensive about it. The second example is what people need to stop crying about. Context matters.
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smoke_break
07/07/18 5:28:17 PM
#79:


nemu posted...
In itself, it is not inherently racist.

You serious?
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Raikuro
07/07/18 5:30:53 PM
#80:


It doesn't matter how intentional it was. It's a children's show, and the localizers don't want impressionable American kids painting their faces black and running around the neighborhood saying they're a monkey. idk why I have to repeat this.
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ViewtifulGrave
07/07/18 5:36:10 PM
#81:


Raikuro posted...
It doesn't matter how intentional it was. It's a children's show, and the localizers don't want impressionable American kids painting their faces black and running around the neighborhood saying they're a monkey. idk why I have to repeat this.

Remember that kid that wanted to be MLK for his school project?
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nemu
07/07/18 5:38:02 PM
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smoke_break posted...
nemu posted...
In itself, it is not inherently racist.

You serious?

What about a person painting their face to be that of another race is racist? The only racist aspect is if somebody makes a purposefully crafted racist caricature out of it, or if someone unintentionally perpetuates a racist stereotype. There is, in American culture, more of a sensitivity to blackface in general, which is why caution should be applied to even non-racist renditions, but the problem is that people get instantly outraged without looking at any context.

Imagine a world in which American slavery didn't happen. I doubt anybody would care. Unless minstrel shows can be traced back to Europe. Honestly no idea on the wider history ofit.
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Scotty_Rogers
07/07/18 5:40:51 PM
#83:


Do people actually watch this shitty anime
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Dyinglegacy
07/07/18 5:48:09 PM
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Dumb that blackface is a thing. I wonder if people get offended at night face camo in military games?

Knowing today, probably.

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CM_Ponch
07/07/18 5:58:07 PM
#85:


Webmaster4531 posted...
Another person who doesn't get blackface is literally in the name.

Blackface is the exaggeration of black qualities in a derogatory manner. Blackface is not Ash painting portions of his face black to look like a monkey.
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TheY2AProblem
07/07/18 6:06:38 PM
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DaemMkIV7
07/07/18 6:39:32 PM
#87:


Hillary's america
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SenTedCruz
07/07/18 6:40:42 PM
#88:


ChainedRedone posted...
CM_Ponch posted...

I can't help but feel it's more racist to look at monkey Ash and think "black people" than whatever the original intent was.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface

SJWs ruin another work of Japanese entertainment.
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SenTedCruz
07/07/18 6:41:39 PM
#89:


Raikuro posted...
It doesn't matter how intentional it was. It's a children's show, and the localizers don't want impressionable American kids painting their faces black and running around the neighborhood saying they're a monkey. idk why I have to repeat this.

You should call them lobotomizers instead lol.
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ModLogic
07/07/18 7:03:49 PM
#90:


CM_Ponch posted...
I can't help but feel it's more racist to look at monkey Ash and think "black people" than whatever the original intent was.

sjws isn't able to comprehend their own closeted bigotry
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mehmeh1
07/07/18 8:01:26 PM
#91:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
I mean they are better then having Ash do something so dumb, not the whole black face thing which is something Japan has done for a long time.

it was a way for him to understand and bond better with the passimian to train and motivate them
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MangaFan462
07/07/18 8:09:49 PM
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SenTedCruz
07/07/18 8:13:21 PM
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mehmeh1 posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
I mean they are better then having Ash do something so dumb, not the whole black face thing which is something Japan has done for a long time.

it was a way for him to understand and bond better with the passimian to train and motivate them

Everyone knows that bonding and understanding people different from you is racist.
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