Current Events > Should Spoilers have an age limit?

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I mean should there be an age limit on spoilers, For instance The princess is in castle 8 in the original Mario. or Aerith dies at the end of disc one in FF7

I'm talking old games that's been around a good 10 or 15 years longer.
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The titanic sinks should be an okay thing to say without marking tbh
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If they're well-known, yes. However, that's incredibly subjective.
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Yes, obviously.

I'd say spoilers "expire" after a year.
After that, you've just been intentionally avoiding that piece of media, and only have yourself to blame.
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Let's summon Sballen. Perhaps he can give a good answer
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Obviously. However, if someone doesn't want spoilers, don't reveal them.
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Hell no. Just tag the damn spoilers. It isn't difficult.
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No lol. Zero people will ever agree on an appropriate time period for spoilers.
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If the simpsons or South Park has referenced it, it should be free reign.
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Theres been plenty of times I played an older well known game and I was glad that certain things werent spoiled.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Zero people will ever agree on an appropriate time period for spoilers.

Demonstrably bullshit. Most people have pseudo-agreed on a year.
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SSJCAT posted...

Theres been plenty of times I played an older well known game and I was glad that certain things werent spoiled.

Also this would fall under:
dave_is_slick posted...

However, if someone doesn't want spoilers, don't reveal them.

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Conflict posted...

That first spoiler isn't even so much of a spoiler

SpinKirby posted...

I'd say spoilers "expire" after a year.
After that, you've just been intentionally avoiding that piece of media, and only have yourself to blame.

Not at all true.

As far as video games go, there's a ton of different franchises and plot-heavy games out there and it's kinda difficult to keep up with all of them. TV shows are similar in that regard too

The only one in which it's whatever to spoil after a little while are movies, because they're at their peak of interest right when they come out, and then after a short while they stop appearing in theaters.

It's considers a spoiler on this site got modded for it a few years back
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There's always going to be people that haven't seen or watched something yet. It's not hard to tag something as a basic courtesy.
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Id say one month for movies and tv. Past that and you dont really care.
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dave_is_slick posted...

SSJCAT posted...

Theres been plenty of times I played an older well known game and I was glad that certain things werent spoiled.

Also this would fall under:
dave_is_slick posted...

However, if someone doesn't want spoilers, don't reveal them.

A year is far too short.

Also, my point has already been proven:

Conflict posted...

That first spoiler isn't even so much of a spoiler

SpinKirby posted...

I'd say spoilers "expire" after a year.
After that, you've just been intentionally avoiding that piece of media, and only have yourself to blame.

Not at all true.

As far as video games go, there's a ton of different franchises and plot-heavy games out there and it's not feasible keep up with all of them. TV shows are similar in that regard too

The only one in which it's whatever to spoil after a little while are movies, because they're at their peak of interest right when they come out, and then after a short while they stop appearing in theaters.

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Conflict posted...

That first spoiler isn't even so much of a spoiler

SpinKirby posted...

I'd say spoilers "expire" after a year.
After that, you've just been intentionally avoiding that piece of media, and only have yourself to blame.

Not at all true.

As far as video games go, there's a ton of different franchises and plot-heavy games out there and it's not feasible keep up with all of them. TV shows are similar in that regard too

The only one in which it's whatever to spoil after a little while are movies, because they're at their peak of interest right when they come out, and then after a short while they stop appearing in theaters.

Uh no, you can't apply it to one, but not the other.

It's all or nothing for spoilers. Media is treated the same.

The failure for you to not consume it in a timely basis lies on you, not everyone else.
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SpinKirby posted...

Conflict posted...

That first spoiler isn't even so much of a spoiler

SpinKirby posted...

I'd say spoilers "expire" after a year.
After that, you've just been intentionally avoiding that piece of media, and only have yourself to blame.

Not at all true.

As far as video games go, there's a ton of different franchises and plot-heavy games out there and it's not feasible keep up with all of them. TV shows are similar in that regard too

The only one in which it's whatever to spoil after a little while are movies, because they're at their peak of interest right when they come out, and then after a short while they stop appearing in theaters.

Uh no, you can't apply it to one, but not the other.

It's all or nothing for spoilers. Media is treated the same.

The failure for you to not consume it in a timely basis lies on you, not everyone else.

This is such a terrible argument. Just because I wasn't born in 1920 doesn't mean I have been intentionally avoiding watching Casa Blanca.
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Conflict posted...

SpinKirby posted...

Uh no, you can't apply it to one, but not the other.

Uh, yes you can

The general attitude towards video games and movies are not equivalent. That, and video games take a lot longer to finish than movies do. It'd be foolish to act as if they're equally the same just because they're both pieces of media.

Fuck "timely basis" too lol. It's significantly easier to watch a shitload of movies when they're at their peak interest than it is to play a shitload of video games in the same time span.

No, that's your take on it.

Entertainment is entertainment.

There is literally no difference, besides cost effectiveness.

P4wn4g3 posted...

This is such a terrible argument. Just because I wasn't born in 1920 doesn't mean I have been intentionally avoiding watching Casa Blanca.

And how often does Casa Blanca come up in conversation that you would even have the opportunity to be spoiled for it almost a century after it was made?
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Conflict posted...

Okay you're basically just plugging your ears and going "nyah nyah nyah not listening" so this is pointless

You're the one make false analogies?

What if it's 30 minute video game vs 2 hour movie?

What if its a 40 hour long game vs 2 hour movie?

What about a 80 hour long tv series vs a 40 hour game?
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Crystal_pony posted...

@Conflict posted...

That first spoiler isn't even so much of a spoiler

SpinKirby posted...

I'd say spoilers "expire" after a year.
After that, you've just been intentionally avoiding that piece of media, and only have yourself to blame.

Not at all true.

As far as video games go, there's a ton of different franchises and plot-heavy games out there and it's kinda difficult to keep up with all of them. TV shows are similar in that regard too

The only one in which it's whatever to spoil after a little while are movies, because they're at their peak of interest right when they come out, and then after a short while they stop appearing in theaters.

It's considers a spoiler on this site got modded for it a few years back

To add, to this isn't most of Mario and Zelda games the same ending wise?
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Crystal_pony posted...

Crystal_pony posted...

@Conflict posted...

That first spoiler isn't even so much of a spoiler

SpinKirby posted...

I'd say spoilers "expire" after a year.
After that, you've just been intentionally avoiding that piece of media, and only have yourself to blame.

Not at all true.

As far as video games go, there's a ton of different franchises and plot-heavy games out there and it's kinda difficult to keep up with all of them. TV shows are similar in that regard too

The only one in which it's whatever to spoil after a little while are movies, because they're at their peak of interest right when they come out, and then after a short while they stop appearing in theaters.

It's considers a spoiler on this site got modded for it a few years back

To add, to this isn't most of Mario and Zelda games the same ending wise?

Moderation on this site is a whole nother mess though.
I can't argue for or against that.
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It was explained that someone might not know this, so therefore there's no age limits on spoilers
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Yes. People who know don't know who Luke Skywalkers father is should just get off the internet
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Crystal_pony posted...

It was explained that someone might not know this, so therefore there's no age limits on spoilers

pretty much this. always mark or have fair warning no matter how long imo
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Spoiler marks on this sight have always been and will always be unnecessary. If you go on a sight called Gamefaqs and go to a forum for discussing a game, then you should be aware that spoilers are implied.

Conflict posted...

If you were even bothering to keep up with the discussion you'd notice I was singling out movies because they're consumed the fastest, they're the only feasible piece of media in which it's plausible to complete a lot of them in a short period of time and they usually have a shorter peak of interest than TV shows and video games. 30 minute video games with deep plots are not commonplace, so that's a dumb analogy to propose. You ignore all of these facts and specific details and just repeatedly spout "well deyre all media so there's absolutely no difference" like it's a completely black-and-white discussion. It's a waste of time.

Consumed the fastest as in what?

What's the difference between watching a movie and talking about it for a week and playing a game and talking about it for a week?

Where are you getting these "facts" from. Do you have citations?

Should we start comparing CoD and GTAV sales to Marvel movies?

My argument is that your point doesn't matter at all. Someone who is into Star Wars can "consume" a movie really fast, but their interest can stay with them for far longer than a year. Imagine going up to a cosplayer and ridiculing them for spoiling the movie for you.

Do you get mad when people spoil the Bible for you? Should new Christians be disappointed at that?
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Yes, I agree. You should be at least 18 to be exposed to spoilers.

Persona 5 takes like 100+ hours to get through. I still talk about Kawakami like once a month.
Digimon~ Hacker's Memory takes 80 hours, and I barely ever mention it, much less the plot.

I stopped caring about Deadpool 2 after like 2 weeks and it's no big deal.
Even to this week, I'll still talk about and search around Blade Runner, Blade Runner 2049, and Ghost in the Shell.

Not everyone is me, so I don't expect my standards to be even close to popular, but that's just an example.

Video games aren't some "higher" form of media, just because you want them to be. The spoiler discussion is going to be a hard -all or nothing- from me, but you're free to argue that everyone should always be spoiler conscious/courteous.

And stop calling arguments dumb. :^)
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SpinKirby posted...

And stop calling arguments dumb. :^)

Don't make bad arguments then.

I used to think spoilers should have some sort of limit, until I realized it's pretty much impossible to set a popular standard there.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

SpinKirby posted...

And stop calling arguments dumb. :^)

Don't make bad arguments then.

I used to think spoilers should have some sort of limit, until I realized it's pretty much impossible to set a popular standard there.

I don't remember anyone in here being knighted the official argument judge, so it's pointless to mention that.

I agree with the second part though.
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Conflict posted...

Imagine if I openly talked about all the criminals in each game. Would you feel compelled to play the games knowing about them going into it?

Why would I go into the topic in the first place?
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Conflict posted...

Imagine if I openly talked about all the criminals in each game. Would you feel compelled to play the games knowing about them going into it?

Why would I go into the topic in the first place?P4wn4g3 posted...

until I realized it's pretty much impossible to set a popular standard there.

The standard is there, you just dismissed it outright for unknown reasons.
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dave_is_slick posted...

The standard is there

Yes, spoilers have no age limit. Done.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Conflict posted...

Imagine if I openly talked about all the criminals in each game. Would you feel compelled to play the games knowing about them going into it?

Why would I go into the topic in the first place?

Because if spoilers can be freely talked about, they don't have to be in a dedicated topic

New Uncharted game comes out? Well, while discussing it, people openly spoil Last of Us
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devilminion posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

Conflict posted...

Imagine if I openly talked about all the criminals in each game. Would you feel compelled to play the games knowing about them going into it?

Why would I go into the topic in the first place?

Because if spoilers can be freely talked about, they don't have to be in a dedicated topic

New Uncharted game comes out? Well, while discussing it, people openly spoil Last of Us

Or just finish the game first and write your discussion topics on a piece of paper?
Even if the rules are in place, people get excited and will accidentally post spoilers without realizing.
Are you going to go around stalking them to their house in anger, or should you just be pro-active and avoid ALL OF IT for a non-unique, non-time sensitive discussion?

If it's discussion board, you're asking for all sorts of hell. If it's in person, then you can hopefully...politely interrupt them before they nuke your brain.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Yes, spoilers have no age limit. Done.

Look, I get your extremely sensitive for no apparent reason, but out in the real world, there is a limit, and it's far less generous than a year. Grow up.
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devilminion posted...

Because if spoilers can be freely talked about, they don't have to be in a dedicated topic

New Uncharted game comes out? Well, while discussing it, people openly spoil Last of Us

So what games would I be playing where Ace Attorney would randomly come up?
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Conflict posted...

SpinKirby posted...

Even if the rules are in place, people get excited and will accidentally post spoilers without realizing.

That's why spoiler tags exist. Your argument is that it shouldn't matter and they shouldn't exist because of an arbitrary 1-year limit

Uh no, there's no way to truly moderate people on web...yet. The thing about spoilers is that the damage can't be 'undone' easily, yet it remains easy to inflict. That's a unique issue, imo.

My argument is that people should be courteous for a year universally. In the ideal situation, someone would always ask first before mentioning it anyway. This usually happens in face to face conversations.

Guess what? Welcome to the Internet.
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Conflict posted...

Tsukasa1891 posted...

Spoiler marks on this sight have always been and will always be unnecessary. If you go on a sight called Gamefaqs and go to a forum for discussing a game, then you should be aware that spoilers are implied.

This is a dumb argument. One because there are a lot of general gaming boards like the one you're posting on right now and unless you're going to blame someone who posts on CE for not playing every single video game ever, I wouldn't roll with that idea.

Two, a lot of people go to the specific game boards for help on certain parts of the game. A lot of these are going to include people who haven't finished said game.

It's not the internet's job to protect your fragile sense of willful ignorance.

After 10 years everyone should know thats interested and spoiler tags shouldnt be needed imo, actually 5 years should be long enough
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dave_is_slick posted...

devilminion posted...

Because if spoilers can be freely talked about, they don't have to be in a dedicated topic

New Uncharted game comes out? Well, while discussing it, people openly spoil Last of Us

So what games would I be playing where Ace Attorney would randomly come up?

LA Noire? Professor Layton? Sherlock? Any game with any sort of detective work.
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