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Foppe
07/16/18 5:14:31 AM
#51:


Why cant we see GT as an alternative timeline as well?
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Vultis_Zales
07/16/18 5:18:31 AM
#52:


This should help explain the Timeline

https://imgur.com/4e7DOtL
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DoctorVader
07/16/18 5:55:52 AM
#53:


There are 7 timelines (or 6 since Toriyama seems to have forgotten Timeline 4).

T1 - Main
T2 - Trunks
T3 - Cell
T4 - The timeline Trunks from T3 went to for the Android kill switch plans which he used here and then in T3.


T5 - Unknown. Someone from Universe 12 made this split. Possibly another Trunks timeline.
T6 - Created by Trunks and Beerus. This is the original main timeline where Beerus did not kill Zamasu. Zamasu used the Super Dragon Balls to switch with Goku and became Goku Black. Then he went to T2 to join up with that Zamasu.
T7 - This one is different in the anime and manga. In the anime, our Whis goes here to tell Beerus from this timeline to kill Zamasu. In the manga, Trunks and Mai use the time machine to save the Supreme Kai in T2, which creates this.

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Kineth
07/16/18 6:00:34 AM
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xyphilia posted...
Wait. If dbz isn't doing that whole "stable time loop" thing (whatever that means) then... didn't Frieza and king cold get to earth before goku did? And wouldn't they have wiped out heck of a lot of people if not the planet outright in that short span of time? Hm I wonder...


Vegeta coulda handled them since he was able to go Super Saiyan by that point.
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DarthWendy
07/16/18 6:05:35 AM
#55:


lol dragon's balls nerd.
It's all about the series where they have blue hair, now. The others are obsolete.
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COVxy
07/16/18 6:05:40 AM
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Tldr: the writing in DBZ is terrible, and this becomes even more apparent with the time travel. Fans have attempted to patch the holes with some n number of unreferenced timelines.
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Kineth
07/16/18 6:56:31 AM
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COVxy posted...
Tldr: the writing in DBZ is terrible, and this becomes even more apparent with the time travel. Fans have attempted to patch the holes with some n number of unreferenced timelines.


Super reconciles the number of alternate/unreferenced timelines
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DrizztLink
07/16/18 7:03:13 AM
#58:


Kineth posted...
xyphilia posted...
Wait. If dbz isn't doing that whole "stable time loop" thing (whatever that means) then... didn't Frieza and king cold get to earth before goku did? And wouldn't they have wiped out heck of a lot of people if not the planet outright in that short span of time? Hm I wonder...


Vegeta coulda handled them since he was able to go Super Saiyan by that point.

No he couldn't.

He only went Super after he fucked off to space for a few years after Trunk's warning.
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Kineth
07/16/18 7:33:29 AM
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DrizztLink posted...

Ah shit, my bad. Been awhile since I watched DBZ.
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Zodd3224
07/16/18 7:39:09 AM
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DarthWendy posted...
lol dragon's balls nerd.
It's all about the series where they have blue hair, now. The others are obsolete.
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Southernfatman
07/16/18 7:44:20 AM
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Isn't it quaint how DB used to be about a weird monkey kid who went on adventures, kicked some ass, and made some new friends? Now there's multiple timelines and gods, and other cosmic level stuff.
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Foppe
07/16/18 7:50:45 AM
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Remember when that little monkey kid met God?
God is just a title.
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GigaSPX
07/16/18 3:18:01 PM
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Just caught up reading this after finishing the Goku Black arc. This is all terrible.
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mehmeh1
07/16/18 11:52:37 PM
#64:


DoctorVader posted...
There are 7 timelines (or 6 since Toriyama seems to have forgotten Timeline 4).

T1 - Main
T2 - Trunks
T3 - Cell
T4 - The timeline Trunks from T3 went to for the Android kill switch plans which he used here and then in T3.


T5 - Unknown. Someone from Universe 12 made this split. Possibly another Trunks timeline.
T6 - Created by Trunks and Beerus. This is the original main timeline where Beerus did not kill Zamasu. Zamasu used the Super Dragon Balls to switch with Goku and became Goku Black. Then he went to T2 to join up with that Zamasu.
T7 - This one is different in the anime and manga. In the anime, our Whis goes here to tell Beerus from this timeline to kill Zamasu. In the manga, Trunks and Mai use the time machine to save the Supreme Kai in T2, which creates this.

also, T5 is manga-only
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Scotty_Rogers
07/16/18 11:55:59 PM
#65:


xyphilia posted...
4 timelines?


Haha.

Dragon Ball was always terribly written, but the cyborg/Cell arc was A LOT more incoherent than what came before.
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xyphilia
07/19/18 1:05:56 AM
#66:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
xyphilia posted...
Wait. If dbz isn't doing that whole "stable time loop" thing (whatever that means) then... didn't Frieza and king cold get to earth before goku did? And wouldn't they have wiped out heck of a lot of people if not the planet outright in that short span of time? Hm I wonder...


No Because Goku himself said that if it wasn't for Trunks he would have just instant transmissioned there. He sensed Trunks in his ship before he was even near Earth and wanted to see what he was capable of.

Ah ok at least that's one thing that has an explanation. Wait how would goku be able to sense whether trunks was good or bad, it's just sensing energy right? Ugh I'm just not gonna question it anymore.
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Scotty_Rogers
07/19/18 1:06:27 AM
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Future Trunks was always a shitty character. A glorified fanfiction character
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SpiritSephiroth
07/19/18 2:02:01 AM
#68:


xyphilia posted...
SpiritSephiroth posted...
xyphilia posted...
Wait. If dbz isn't doing that whole "stable time loop" thing (whatever that means) then... didn't Frieza and king cold get to earth before goku did? And wouldn't they have wiped out heck of a lot of people if not the planet outright in that short span of time? Hm I wonder...


No Because Goku himself said that if it wasn't for Trunks he would have just instant transmissioned there. He sensed Trunks in his ship before he was even near Earth and wanted to see what he was capable of.

Ah ok at least that's one thing that has an explanation. Wait how would goku be able to sense whether trunks was good or bad, it's just sensing energy right? Ugh I'm just not gonna question it anymore.


Thats also explained. Like when he didn't flinch when Trunks first flung his sword at him. Goku could sense his emotions.
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xyphilia
07/19/18 2:16:13 AM
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You mean he sensed... his emotions... from way out in space?
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dib153
07/19/18 2:20:30 AM
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Timeline 1
Trunks goes back and creates timeline 2
Trunks returns to timeline one, cell wakes up with no androids so he kills trunks and goes back one year before trunks did, creating timeline 3 (which the show follows)
4th timeline is the one from super I think?
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SpiritSephiroth
07/19/18 2:28:00 AM
#71:


xyphilia posted...
You mean he sensed... his emotions... from way out in space?


Considering all the things that go on in DBZ, would that really be farfetched? He was able to telepathically communicate with King Kai across the universe while on a dying planet fighting another being at super sonic speeds. Why does that surprise you lol.
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Foppe
07/19/18 4:24:52 PM
#72:


dib153 posted...
Timeline 1
Trunks goes back and creates timeline 2
Trunks returns to timeline one, cell wakes up with no androids so he kills trunks and goes back one year before trunks did, creating timeline 3 (which the show follows)
4th timeline is the one from super I think?

4th is the one where Future Trunks kills Cell so he cant go back in time, the Future Trunks timeline that the show follows.
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xyphilia
07/20/18 4:10:04 PM
#73:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
xyphilia posted...
You mean he sensed... his emotions... from way out in space?


Considering all the things that go on in DBZ, would that really be farfetched? He was able to telepathically communicate with King Kai across the universe while on a dying planet fighting another being at super sonic speeds. Why does that surprise you lol.

You know what? That's only really one of the tamer things of dbz, so yeah good point, definitely agree.
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