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Vita_Aeterna
07/14/18 8:33:45 PM
#101:


_Goggalor_ posted...
gandalfl0 posted...
Why would you want the government to be allowed to kill you


I'm not a child killer or a PoS rapist so I don't have anything to worry about. We only execute scum.

The problem is accidentally killing the wrong people. The courts all across the globe have made mistakes before and imprisoned innocents. Now imagine them killing people too.
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dbf50
07/14/18 8:39:51 PM
#102:


the arguments against it are valid, but on a very stripped down philosophy i think sometimes there are just crimes committed where the criminal deserves to die. a man murders children with his bare hands and taxpayers are expected to pay for his food and bedding for the rest of his life? that doesn't make much sense to me.
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nesplayer
07/14/18 8:55:00 PM
#103:


against

3 reasons

A)pro life means even the lowest of the low's life.
2) It cost more in taxes, appeals, etc to kill someone, Being a cool $20 trill in debt we need to save every penny we can
D) It's already unconstitutional.
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HiddenLurker
07/14/18 9:21:01 PM
#104:


Against. Am for life w/o parole though.
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Antifar
07/14/18 9:25:08 PM
#105:


dbf50 posted...
a man murders children with his bare hands and taxpayers are expected to pay for his food and bedding for the rest of his life?

If criminal justice is the purview of the state, that is the responsibility they are taking on.
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3_1_1_FTW
07/14/18 9:42:04 PM
#107:


Easy against.
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whitehawk1986
07/14/18 9:47:39 PM
#108:


For it
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CwebbMichSac4
07/14/18 9:55:34 PM
#109:


whitehawk1986 posted...
For it

yep for it, there are just some really terrible people out there and if they did that shit, why not?
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PiOverlord
07/14/18 10:24:13 PM
#110:


Against, it's a barbaric practice, and by doing it, we are just stooping to a primitive level.
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Hop103
07/14/18 10:43:42 PM
#111:


For, however, only for heinous crimes and terrorism, I can't stand for the death penalty for homosexuality, blasphemy, or petty crime for example.
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metralo
07/14/18 10:49:50 PM
#112:


Antifar posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
kinetika_ posted...
Expensive? So you're telling me to kill someone is like $100K+? I highly doubt a lethal injection costs that much. And we put animals down, we should do the same with people.


The appeals is what makes it so expensive.

And, let's be clear: calls to reduce or limit the appeals process are calls to execute more innocent people. That is the impact such policies would have.


yup. it's not as easy as "take em out back and shoot them"

we have law for a reason
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OmegaStriver
07/14/18 10:56:40 PM
#113:


Props to the people that vote against and truly mean it if someone raped, tortured and murdered someone they care about and then, dont want that person to die.
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PiOverlord
07/14/18 11:15:01 PM
#114:


OmegaStriver posted...
Props to the people that vote against and truly mean it if someone raped, tortured and murdered someone they care about and then, dont want that person to die.

Difference between what I want, and what I know is right.
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Zero_Destroyer
07/14/18 11:16:30 PM
#115:


the justice system is too flawed to give it the ability to kill when the prisoner is unarmed
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SpaceBear_
07/14/18 11:29:18 PM
#116:


If someone killed a friend or member of my family, I'd want them dead. Not in five, ten or fifteen years. Immediately.

But...I dunno.
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emblem boy
07/14/18 11:32:47 PM
#118:


OmegaStriver posted...
Props to the people that vote against and truly mean it if someone raped, tortured and murdered someone they care about and then, dont want that person to die.

SpaceBear_ posted...
If someone killed a friend or member of my family, I'd want them dead. Not in five, ten or fifteen years. Immediately.

But...I dunno.


Then do it yourself and face the consequences. Don't have the state so the violence and revenge for you
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Arthello
07/14/18 11:34:57 PM
#119:


Find a way to fix the appeals system then I'll be for it.
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Foppe
07/15/18 12:28:03 AM
#120:


nesplayer posted...
2) It cost more in taxes, appeals, etc to kill someone, Being a cool $20 trill in debt we need to save every penny we can

It cost more to kill somebody than having them in prison for 30 years?
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hollow_shrine
07/15/18 12:31:15 AM
#121:


Foppe posted...
nesplayer posted...
2) It cost more in taxes, appeals, etc to kill someone, Being a cool $20 trill in debt we need to save every penny we can

It cost more to kill somebody than having them in prison for 30 years?

Believe it or not, yes. A lot of that is because of the additional legal fees crimes involving the potential for capital punishment entails. You might think you can cut those costs by eliminating parts of those appeal processes, but then you'd end up with trials that heavily disadvantage defendants, which is a problem if your judicial motto is, 'innocent until proven guilty.'
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