Current Events > What if Trump has been a Russian asset since 1987?

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Couldn't find a topic about this New York Magazine piece, and I thought it was a fun read. Here you go, with some excerpts:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html

The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trumps advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if thats wrong? What if were still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The contents of these communications have not been disclosed, but what Brennan learned obviously unsettled him profoundly. In congressional testimony on Russian election interference last year, Brennan hinted that some Americans might have betrayed their country. Individuals who go along a treasonous path, he warned, do not even realize theyre along that path until it gets to be a bit too late. In an interview this year, he put it more bluntly: I think [Trump] is afraid of the president of Russia. The Russians may have something on him personally that they could always roll out and make his life more difficult.

While the fact that the former CIA director has espoused this theory hardly proves it, perhaps we should give more credence to the possibility that Brennan is making these extraordinary charges of treason and blackmail at the highest levels of government because he knows something we dont.

During the Soviet era, Russian intelligence cast a wide net to gain leverage over influential figures abroad. (The practice continues to this day.) The Russians would lure or entrap not only prominent politicians and cultural leaders, but also people whom they saw as having the potential for gaining prominence in the future. In 1986, Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin met Trump in New York, flattered him with praise for his building exploits, and invited him to discuss a building in Moscow. Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trumps own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)

Trump returned from Moscow fired up with political ambition. He began the first of a long series of presidential flirtations, which included a flashy trip to New Hampshire. Two months after his Moscow visit, Trump spent almost $100,000 on a series of full-page newspaper ads that published a political manifesto. An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves, as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?

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Actually they are a year off. It happened in 1988. He was turned by https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bolsheviks
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i don't like trump for he has no class. i can't never forgive what he did to the queen of england broke 2 damn rules.
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kingdrake2 posted...

i don't like trump for he has no class. i can't never forgive what he did to the queen of england broke 2 damn rules.

tbf, she was probably glad to have deal with someone like him over Philip.

Far more well behaved and less erratic.
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The Manchurlish Candidate
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Funkydog posted...

kingdrake2 posted...

i don't like trump for he has no class. i can't never forgive what he did to the queen of england broke 2 damn rules.

tbf, she was probably glad to have deal with someone like him over Philip.

Far more well behaved and less erratic.

prince phillip is a gentleman i can respect him alot. he has class.
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kingdrake2 posted...

prince phillip is a gentleman i can respect him alot. he has class.

Fucking lol.

He's a racist arsehole who gives no fucks and is openly rude and disrespectful.
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he's better than trump.
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Imagine believing this
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Caution999 posted...

Imagine believing this

Imagine believing anything good about trump
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Caution999 posted...

Imagine believing this

The article itself doesn't even say to believe it. It says "let's not rule it out". But sure
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If he has businesses over there, then hes an asset. An asset is something or somebody who produces capital. Having one of his hotels in Russia, for an example, would be an asset to them.
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Nevertheless, I think it's quite interesting how he started propagating an anti-NATO stance suspiciously soon after his Moscow trip.
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scar the 1 posted...

Nevertheless, I think it's quite interesting how he started propagating an anti-NATO stance suspiciously soon after his Moscow trip.

the whole rnc is slurping russia now.

obama tried to work with putin for years and they cries like bitches. now its suddenly ok.
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E32005 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Nevertheless, I think it's quite interesting how he started propagating an anti-NATO stance suspiciously soon after his Moscow trip.

the whole rnc is slurping russia now.

obama tried to work with putin for years and they cries like bitches. now its suddenly ok.

Surely if you try you can understand the difference between what Trump is accused of doing and what Obama's administration attempted?
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Bump
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