Current Events > US had largest decline in CO2 emissions in the world for the 9th time

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.aei.org/publication/chart-of-the-day-in-2017-us-had-largest-decline-in-co2-emissions-in-the-world-for-9th-time-this-century/

Woohoo!
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I'm lazy and don't feel like reading the article. Is it in terms of total amount reduced, or percentage reduced? Either way, pretty cool.
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Drpooplol posted...

I'm lazy and don't feel like reading the article. Is it in terms of total amount reduced, or percentage reduced? Either way, pretty cool.

These measurements are in the number of tons in reductions/increases. The US, Ukraine, Mexico, the UK, and South Africa (followed by a few more countries) reduced their emissions by the largest numbers.

China, India, and Turkey were the largest increases.
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Funny that somehow the United States is doing its part more then the rest. Absolutely not what one would expect.

China increased by a stupidly large amount of course.

Also European Union went up quite a bit.

Interesting bit.

For that impressive greening of America, we can thank the underground oceans of Americas natural gas that are now accessible because of the revolutionary, advanced drilling and extraction technologies of hydraulic fracturing and horizontal/directional drilling, and are increasingly displacing coal for the nations electricity generation.
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Wow, impressive given the people in charge are fighting against that.
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It's nice that we've been able to conveniently let China make all of our stuff so we don't have to make the CO2 ourselves.
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But this can't be true! Leftists claimed China was leading the way, and we needed to be more like them!

I guess leaving the Paris Accord wasn't the end of the world after all
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Coffeebeanz posted...

It's nice that we've been able to conveniently let China make all of our stuff so we don't have to make the CO2 ourselves.

why do you hate the global poor?
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Cool but we need to tackle desertification or it's all for not.
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i wonder if it's easy to have the biggest drop-off if you're the biggest cause that's barely even tying

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Cool but we need to tackle desertification or it's all for not.

Double down on desalination.

Coffeebeanz posted...

It's nice that we've been able to conveniently let China make all of our stuff so we don't have to make the CO2 ourselves.

Plus it keeps all the smog over there. I'm too good to live in such gross conditions.
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Uncle Choad posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

It's nice that we've been able to conveniently let China make all of our stuff so we don't have to make the CO2 ourselves.

Plus it keeps all the smog over there. I'm too good to live in such gross conditions.

Ladies and gentlemen, we've found the NIMBY.

wont last long with trumpykins removing environmental policies left and right
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In other news Scott Pruitt was forced to step down from the EPA. Rumors say Trump trying to replace him with a Wheezing.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Cool but we need to tackle desertification or it's all for not.

Here's an amazing and inspirational TED talk on that (complete with pictures of before/after progress).

https://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change
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That's actually pretty cool and nice to see
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spudger posted...

wont last long with trumpykins removing environmental policies left and right

Actually, there's nothing the current administration can do to end the progress. The market has already decided on renewables, which is why new electricity from solar/wind/water is already extremely cheap even without subsidies.

Electric vehicles are going to take over in the next few years once we get the models that can go 400+ miles per charge, with each charge costing just a few bucks.

Now all we need is a renewed focus on making top of the line nuclear reactors and we're golden. (IIRC America already gets 30% of our electricity needs from nuclear)
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P4wn4g3 posted...

In other news Scott Pruitt was forced to step down from the EPA. Rumors say Trump trying to replace him with a Wheezing.

Wheeler is close enough to a real life Wheezing.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Cool but we need to tackle desertification or it's all for not.

Double down on desalination.

Eh, I'm no expert but this seems plausible . . . tldw bring back cattle to mimic natural herd animals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI" data-time="

edit @FLUFFYGERM already beat me to it.
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I mean...0.5%. But that's nice I guess?
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While this is obviously a good thing, I think it's worth noting that we have a lot of reducing to do.
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Trump's America
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DevsBro posted...

While this is obviously a good thing, I think it's worth noting that we have a lot of reducing to do.

We're on the precipice of enormous declines in CO2 emissions as the market fully embraces renewable energy and electric vehicles. It's a really exciting time.
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mistalightbulb posted...

i wonder if it's easy to have the biggest drop-off if you're the biggest cause that's barely even tying

China is by far the largest emittor and they're only increasing emissions now

spudger posted...

wont last long with trumpykins removing environmental policies left and right

Same thing was said last year when we bailed on the Accords. Guess what? Companies self regulated because they follow the money, and all the money is in renewables right now.
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voldothegr8 posted...

spudger posted...

wont last long with trumpykins removing environmental policies left and right

Same thing was said last year when we bailed on the Accords. Guess what? Companies self regulated because they follow the money, and all the money is in renewables right now.

good to know his stupidity can't fuck this up too much.
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This never would have happened it if we left the Paris Agreement.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Cool but we need to tackle desertification or it's all for not.

Double down on desalination.

Too much pollution
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voldothegr8 posted...

spudger posted...

wont last long with trumpykins removing environmental policies left and right

Same thing was said last year when we bailed on the Accords. Guess what? Companies self regulated because they follow the money, and all the money is in renewables right now.

Exactly. All we need to do is keep educating people on why EVs and renewables are vastly superior to the traditional ways of generating energy/driving and let the market take care of the rest.

Example: Imagine if everyone knew that the Chevy Bolt could get you 238+ miles per charge and that each charge costs just a few bucks in most states. And that EV charging infrastructure is appearing rapidly throughout the country. They'd be in even higher demand than they already are, especially since they're very reasonably priced for what you get.

Now we just need battery technology to get to the next level where you can expect 400+ miles per charge and it's game over for most gas-powered cars.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

DevsBro posted...

While this is obviously a good thing, I think it's worth noting that we have a lot of reducing to do.

We're on the precipice of enormous declines in CO2 emissions as the market fully embraces renewable energy and electric vehicles. It's a really exciting time.

Need to stop getting rid of electric vehicle incentives/rebates

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-electric-hydrogen-vehicle-charging-incentive-program-ends-1.4743579
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Good. History will have no choice but register that this occured during Trump's Presidency. Liberals must be literally fuming.
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liberals! *shakes fist*

Bio1590 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

DevsBro posted...

While this is obviously a good thing, I think it's worth noting that we have a lot of reducing to do.

We're on the precipice of enormous declines in CO2 emissions as the market fully embraces renewable energy and electric vehicles. It's a really exciting time.

Need to stop getting rid of electric vehicle incentives/rebates

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-electric-hydrogen-vehicle-charging-incentive-program-ends-1.4743579

Why is your Ministry of Transportation fucking up so hard, brother? This is the time when governments should be investing heavily into renewables and EV so that the private sector is even more interested in profiting off of innovation.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Exactly. All we need to do is keep educating people on why EVs and renewables are vastly superior to the traditional ways of generating energy/driving and let the market take care of the rest.

Has the charging port been standardized yet?

DarthWendy posted...

Good. History will have no choice but register that this occured during Trump's Presidency. Liberals must be literally fuming.

I mean a lot of things occur during presidencies that have nothing to do with said presidencies.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Exactly. All we need to do is keep educating people on why EVs and renewables are vastly superior to the traditional ways of generating energy/driving and let the market take care of the rest.

Has the charging port been standardized yet?

I believe every EV uses the same port with the exception of the Tesla vehicles, which have their own charging port because of how widespread the Supercharger network is.
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DarthWendy posted...

Good. History will have no choice but register that this occured during Trump's Presidency. Liberals must be literally fuming.

Yeah I'm super pissed that Trump is still unable to accomplish his shitty goals.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Exactly. All we need to do is keep educating people on why EVs and renewables are vastly superior to the traditional ways of generating energy/driving and let the market take care of the rest.

Has the charging port been standardized yet?

I believe every EV uses the same port with the exception of the Tesla vehicles, which have their own charging port because of how widespread the Supercharger network is.

So... no.

Questionmarktarius posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Exactly. All we need to do is keep educating people on why EVs and renewables are vastly superior to the traditional ways of generating energy/driving and let the market take care of the rest.

Has the charging port been standardized yet?

I believe every EV uses the same port with the exception of the Tesla vehicles, which have their own charging port because of how widespread the Supercharger network is.

So... no.

Meh.
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bump for good news
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Bio1590 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

DevsBro posted...

While this is obviously a good thing, I think it's worth noting that we have a lot of reducing to do.

We're on the precipice of enormous declines in CO2 emissions as the market fully embraces renewable energy and electric vehicles. It's a really exciting time.

Need to stop getting rid of electric vehicle incentives/rebates

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-electric-hydrogen-vehicle-charging-incentive-program-ends-1.4743579

Why is your Ministry of Transportation fucking up so hard, brother? This is the time when governments should be investing heavily into renewables and EV so that the private sector is even more interested in profiting off of innovation.

It's actually the "populist" Conservative provincial government Ontario just elected lmfao
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

I mean a lot of things occur during presidencies that have nothing to do with said presidencies.

*Trump drops out of Paris Agreement*
"Trump has just single-handedly doomed us all!"

*one year later, US leads world in reducing CO2*
"Trump had nothing to do with it!"