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Fenrimis
07/17/18 7:32:53 PM
#104:


I looked up the school just to mention randoms facts for the future shitposts

- 100% of Students are on free lunch/reduced lunch
- 80% of school is black, 10% is hispanic, 6% white
- High graduation rate of 93% (state avg 80%)
- Students perform very poorly on Regents (Generally receiving half the scores of the state average)
- Reviews for the school before the incident indicate that there has been very high turnover rate of teachers
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 7:36:05 PM
#105:


That's kind of weird to have such a high pass rate but such a low test score average. That's kinda common in religious schools in my area too.
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Oh_Boy_
07/17/18 7:38:20 PM
#106:


Fenrimis posted...
I looked up the school just to mention randoms facts for the future shitposts

- 100% of Students are on free lunch/reduced lunch
- 80% of school is black, 10% is hispanic, 6% white
- High graduation rate of 93% (state avg 80%)
- Students perform very poorly on Regents (Generally receiving half the scores of the state average)
- Reviews for the school before the incident indicate that there has been very high turnover rate of teachers


Definitely justifies not letting the student speak because of a personal grudge. He might have sexually assaulted a teacher after all.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 7:39:55 PM
#107:


Are you a jerk to everyone or am I just your target for today
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s0nicfan
07/17/18 7:41:21 PM
#108:


Coffeebeanz posted...
That's kind of weird to have such a high pass rate but such a low test score average. That's kinda common in religious schools in my area too.


Like I said earlier, all signs point to this being a boarding school for violent boys. That's also why they put such a high emphasis on attendance, and why graduation is so high but no mention of colleges. It also explains the high teacher turnover rate. They're just trying to get these kids the minimum standard required so they can get some kind of job without getting into trouble.
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Capn Circus
07/17/18 7:42:01 PM
#109:


Why does the student being black matter? Can anyone explain to me?
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:43:05 PM
#110:


s0nicfan posted...
Like I said earlier, all signs point to this being a boarding school for violent boys. That's also why they put such a high emphasis on attendance, and why graduation is so high but no mention of colleges. It also explains the high teacher turnover rate. They're just trying to get these kids the minimum standard required so they can get some kind of job without getting into trouble.
Given the original article & your analysis of the schools stats, it sounds like the Principle had a personal grudge against that student in particular.
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MedzXVIII
07/17/18 7:44:31 PM
#111:


WheezinEd posted...
Axiom posted...
No it literally doesn't. He's valedictorian for a reason and every valedictorian has given a speech before at this school. His past doesn't matter in the least. You're just attempting to smear the guy for who knows why

Doing a little research and it appears the past 2 valedictorians were also black.

Really?
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 7:44:33 PM
#112:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Like I said earlier, all signs point to this being a boarding school for violent boys. That's also why they put such a high emphasis on attendance, and why graduation is so high but no mention of colleges. It also explains the high teacher turnover rate. They're just trying to get these kids the minimum standard required so they can get some kind of job without getting into trouble.
Given the original article & your analysis of the schools stats, it sounds like the Principle had a personal grudge against that student in particular.


If true, I certainly think he should've been fired. No room for that kind of attitude, especially for someone who earned a speech slot by being valedictorian.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:45:55 PM
#113:


Coffeebeanz posted...
If true, I certainly think he should've been fired. No room for that kind of attitude, especially for someone who earned a speech slot by being valedictorian.
The Principle made his decision, it cost him his job. It's on him.
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Fony
07/17/18 7:46:35 PM
#114:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Like I said earlier, all signs point to this being a boarding school for violent boys. That's also why they put such a high emphasis on attendance, and why graduation is so high but no mention of colleges. It also explains the high teacher turnover rate. They're just trying to get these kids the minimum standard required so they can get some kind of job without getting into trouble.
Given the original article & your analysis of the schools stats, it sounds like the Principle had a personal grudge against that student in particular.


Yes, it seems personal and not race related at all. Too bad the usual suspects are obfuscation the fact that the Principal was still wrong. Maybe the Principal had no problem with his race, but a few CEmen do. Otherwise they wouldn't have such a hard time seeing that this student was unfairly penalized.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:47:41 PM
#115:


Fony posted...
Yes, it seems personal and not race related at all. Too bad the usual suspects are obfuscation the fact that the Principal was still wrong. Maybe the Principal had no problem with his race, but a few CEmen do.
You really shouldn't be quick to jump on labeling a person "Racist".

That's very unbecoming of you.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 7:47:50 PM
#116:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
If true, I certainly think he should've been fired. No room for that kind of attitude, especially for someone who earned a speech slot by being valedictorian.
The Principle made his decision, it cost him his job. It's on him.


Unfortunately, academia is the kind of place where people can get away with punitive grudges. Sounds like he chose the wrong student to pull that on, though.
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Oh_Boy_
07/17/18 7:48:14 PM
#117:


Let's dig ion his background and see how many teachers he sexually assaulted.

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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:48:53 PM
#118:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Unfortunately, academia is the kind of place where people can get away with punitive grudges. Sounds like he chose the wrong student to pull that on, though.
That's his stupidity for doing it.
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Fony
07/17/18 7:49:31 PM
#119:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
Yes, it seems personal and not race related at all. Too bad the usual suspects are obfuscation the fact that the Principal was still wrong. Maybe the Principal had no problem with his race, but a few CEmen do.
You really shouldn't be quick to jump on labeling a person "Racist".

That's very unbecoming of you.


Appearances mean jack shit to me, I've seen more than enough of the racist in question. Anyway, I hope I can enjoy a few more tears before this burns out.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:50:59 PM
#120:


Fony posted...
Appearances mean jack shit to me, I've seen more than enough of the racist in question. Anyway, I hope I can enjoy a few more tears before this burns out.
Wow, do you know how that makes you sound?

But you obviously don't care about appearances, so you don't care how the rest of the internet / CE sees you.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 7:51:00 PM
#121:


Fony posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
Yes, it seems personal and not race related at all. Too bad the usual suspects are obfuscation the fact that the Principal was still wrong. Maybe the Principal had no problem with his race, but a few CEmen do.
You really shouldn't be quick to jump on labeling a person "Racist".

That's very unbecoming of you.


Appearances mean jack shit to me, I've seen more than enough of the racist in question. Anyway, I hope I can enjoy a few more tears before this burns out.


Why would I cry about someone making an ass out of themselves repeatedly in the same topic and then boasting about it?
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WheezinEd
07/17/18 7:52:24 PM
#122:


Fony posted...
Too bad the usual suspects are obfuscation the fact that the Principal was still wrong


It's he said she said.

According to the principle, Lovett said 10 days before the ceremony that he didn't want to make a speech and that it was only 10 minutes before that he voiced his change of mind that he did want to make a speech and was denied because everything had already been planned without his speech.

According to Lovett, he was denied because of some personal issues the principle had with him that were unrelated to his race.

According to the media, he was denied because of his race.
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Fony
07/17/18 7:52:29 PM
#123:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
Appearances mean jack shit to me, I've seen more than enough of the racist in question. Anyway, I hope I can enjoy a few more tears before this burns out.
Wow, do you know how that makes you sound?

But you obviously don't care about appearances, so you don't care how the rest of the internet / CE sees you.


I have made this clear for my whole time on the site and people still can't believe it...lmao.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 7:53:08 PM
#124:


Fony posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
Appearances mean jack shit to me, I've seen more than enough of the racist in question. Anyway, I hope I can enjoy a few more tears before this burns out.
Wow, do you know how that makes you sound?

But you obviously don't care about appearances, so you don't care how the rest of the internet / CE sees you.


I have made this clear for my whole time on the site and people still can't believe it...lmao.


Kind of amazing you're not a Trump supporter, actually
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Fony
07/17/18 7:55:01 PM
#125:


Now if I respond to the creature it will get upset and cry to the mods, or summon more white knights. That victim card is ready to be charged, lol.

FYI: I'm not anti Trump. Don't care for him, but not a liberal either.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:55:25 PM
#126:


Fony posted...
I have made this clear for my whole time on the site and people still can't believe it...lmao.
Most people on this site don't know each other very well.

So this is the first time I've ever bothered to read up on some of your posting history.
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Oh_Boy_
07/17/18 7:56:01 PM
#127:


I'm looking for the arrest record for sexual battery. Still can't find it.
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Fony
07/17/18 7:56:58 PM
#128:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
I have made this clear for my whole time on the site and people still can't believe it...lmao.
Most people on this site don't know each other very well.

So this is the first time I've ever bothered to read up on some of your posting history.


Pleased to meet you sir.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:57:39 PM
#129:


Fony posted...
Pleased to meet you sir.
Like wise
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 7:58:25 PM
#130:


Oh_Boy_ posted...
I'm looking for the arrest record for sexual battery. Still can't find it.


With your apparent level of reading comprehension I'm amazed you can find the post button.
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Fony
07/17/18 7:58:56 PM
#131:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
Pleased to meet you sir.
Like wise


Love the name BTW.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:59:18 PM
#132:


Fony posted...
Love the name BTW.
Are you a Tokusatsu fan?
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Oh_Boy_
07/17/18 7:59:23 PM
#133:


Anybody else hear flies buzzing?
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Fony
07/17/18 7:59:44 PM
#134:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
Love the name BTW.
Are you a Tokusatsu fan?


Indeed.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 8:00:25 PM
#135:


Fony posted...
Indeed.
Which Kamen Rider series is your favorite at the moment?
Not withstanding that Build might change your personal rankings.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 8:00:37 PM
#136:


Fony posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
Love the name BTW.
Are you a Tokusatsu fan?


Indeed.


Holy shit you guys like kaijus?
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 8:01:42 PM
#137:


Have you guys seen the new Netflix Godzilla show? That shit is weird.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 8:01:51 PM
#138:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Holy shit you guys like kaijus?
I'm not much into Godzilla & other Kaiju franchises.

I'm more on the Kamen Rider / Super Sentai side along with a few other series.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 8:02:56 PM
#139:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Holy shit you guys like kaijus?
I'm not much into Godzilla & other Kaiju franchises.

I'm more on the Kamen Rider / Super Sentai side along with a few other series.


Super Sentai <3
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 8:04:13 PM
#140:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Super Sentai <3
What's your favorite Super Sentai series?
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Fony
07/17/18 8:04:51 PM
#141:


Eh, I have old school tastes. X is my favorite series, and i'm liking the new movie. I also love Kaiju stuff, the Netflix Godzilla was ok.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 8:05:11 PM
#142:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Super Sentai <3
What's your favorite Super Sentai series?


Obviously my first exposure was the original Power Rangers and I have to say the shitty dubbing has only aged like fine wine.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 8:05:45 PM
#143:


Fony posted...
Eh, I have old school tastes. X is my favorite series, and i'm liking the new movie. I also love Kaiju stuff, the Netflix Godzilla was ok.
So you prefer Showa-Era riders over the Heisei-Era riders?
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 8:05:59 PM
#144:


Fony posted...
Eh, I have old school tastes. X is my favorite series, and i'm liking the new movie. I also love Kaiju stuff, the Netflix Godzilla was ok.


I think it deserves some credit for only barely using Godzilla as a crutch for a surprisingly interesting sci fi world.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 8:07:12 PM
#145:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Obviously my first exposure was the original Power Rangers and I have to say the shitty dubbing has only aged like fine wine.
Power Rangers was also my Gate Way Show, but it just led me to watching the real Super Sentai and finding a distaste for Haim Saban's Bastardizations of good Japanese works.

Which Super Sentai is your favorite currently?
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Fony
07/17/18 8:07:20 PM
#147:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Fony posted...
Eh, I have old school tastes. X is my favorite series, and i'm liking the new movie. I also love Kaiju stuff, the Netflix Godzilla was ok.
So you prefer Showa-Era riders over the Heisei-Era riders?


Honestly I like them all, but X is just my favorite mostly because it's the first or second series I saw
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OwlRammer
07/17/18 8:08:03 PM
#148:


SomeGuyUO posted...
The school's board of trustees responded to the controversy in a Facebook post, saying they're "aware of the concern" and will be "reviewing the circumstances regarding what happened."

lol
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Fony
07/17/18 8:08:43 PM
#149:


BTW, Special Duty Combat Unit Shinesman is the lamest sentai ever.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 8:09:49 PM
#150:


Fony posted...
Honestly I like them all, but X is just my favorite mostly because it's the first or second series I saw
Fair enough.

The Haim Saban Bastardization was my first introduction to "Masked Rider".

Then I went back and watched the real Kamen Rider series and started with "Ryuki".

Man what a great show to start off with.

But Blade is my favorite so far.

Please join & participate:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1407-tokusatsu

We do have a Tokusatsu Board that needs more members.

I'm there obviously.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 8:10:27 PM
#151:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Obviously my first exposure was the original Power Rangers and I have to say the shitty dubbing has only aged like fine wine.
Power Rangers was also my Gate Way Show, but it just led me to watching the real Super Sentai and finding a distaste for Haim Saban's Bastardizations of good Japanese works.

Which Super Sentai is your favorite currently?


I never really watched the originals or the newer ones. Now that you're bringing them up, I kinda want to see some.

I'm a huge Toho fan, which is my entry into this genre as a fan.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 8:10:52 PM
#152:


Fony posted...
BTW, Special Duty Combat Unit Shinesman is the lamest sentai ever.
I've never even heard of it until you mentioned it.
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_RETS_
07/17/18 8:11:10 PM
#153:


Oh_Boy_ posted...
I'm looking for the arrest record for sexual battery. Still can't find it.


No one at all implied the kid had a record of assaulting anyone. The hypothetical was posed as a gauge to determine at what point someone's past goes from "not mattering at all" to mattering when one posted made a blanket statement that his past conduct doesn't matter.

So the hypothetical is posed to take that idea to the logical extreme. Does it not ever matter, no matter what? Does it begin to matter at some point? If so, what is that point?

That was the point of the hypothetical, whether that was the best way to ask it or not. Not to imply the kid did anything wrong at all. But you know that and are just pretending to be stupid.

Anyways, anyone gonna follow up on the post about this school having had a black valedictorian in 2016 and the subsequent explanation that this prep school has a dual graduation with a girls school?
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