Current Events > Hulk Hogan was forgiven. Do you forgive Michael Richards?

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Both made racist comments.
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I don't really care what Hogan said in his own time, because it's just not unexpected for me. Hogan is a scumbag despite being a racist as well. I never wanted him kicked out of the Hall of Fame or have his name never mentioned, but I don't want the piece of shit in the company again. He's toxic and is horrible for any company he's apart of. Fuck him, stay away from anything related to pro wrestling or sports entertainment.

PS -

I don't even know who Michael Richards is or what he did. I'll Google it - Ohh, it's Kramer
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yeah, the whole situation around richards was overblown to begin with. he said a few bad things but it was in a stressful situation. and he apologized afterwards so i think it was a sincere mistake
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I didn't really have a grudge against either one, but Hogan always seemed like a piece of shit in general and not just from the racist stuff he said.
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Hulk Hogan was forgiven by a company who stands to profit off of their forgiveness.

From things I have read he isn't forgiven by everyone in the company.
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Wasn't Hogans comments just I don't want daughter dating black dudes while Kramer was talking about blacks getting lynched years ago. Those two can't be compared. A better Hogan comparison is the clippers owner who told his mistress I don't want you bringing black dudes to Clipper games.
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Kramer should have heckled the guys at their jobs. Seen how they liked it. Jerry covered this already with Kathy Griffin.
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Of course.
Forgiveness is healthy.
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They're both pieces of shit as far as I'm concerned, but the answer to your topic question depends on who specifically forgave Hulk Hogan. Then you can go ask them to forgive Michael Richards too
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Michael Richards thing is so fucking hilarious
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Of course.
Forgiveness is healthy.

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eston posted...

They're both pieces of shit as far as I'm concerned

Are they really defined by 1 moment of fowl racist language? You don't think people are more complex than that?
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Michael Richards was on Curb with the Seinfeld cast. He wasn't doing stand up because he was getting constant acting and comedy roles so he's forgiven from the only way he'll get work already.
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Also watch comedians in cars getting coffee with Michael Richards so cool
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Nope. Both can fuck off.
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

Hulk Hogan was forgiven by a company who stands to profit off of their forgiveness.

From things I have read he isn't forgiven by everyone in the company.

Nor should he. The decision to readmitt him, especially without him even remotely acknowledging and apologizing for his actions, is a joke and a huge slap in the face to any black employees of the company
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

eston posted...

They're both pieces of shit as far as I'm concerned

Are they really defined by 1 moment of fowl racist language? You don't think people are more complex than that?

theres a difference between a slip of the tongue (which is STILL very questionable) and literally going on a race tirade.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

eston posted...

They're both pieces of shit as far as I'm concerned

Are they really defined by 1 moment of fowl racist language? You don't think people are more complex than that?

theres a difference between a slip of the tongue (which is STILL very questionable) and literally going on a race tirade.

Even then, people are going to disagree with me on this but there are worse sins one can commit than saying racist things. It only happened once during a stressful situation. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. We've all done things we're not proud of, and I don't think any of us would want to be judged by our worst moments.
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I never hated either to begin with
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imagine excusing the crap he spewed because he was stressed...what message does this send to your black employees?
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

eston posted...

They're both pieces of shit as far as I'm concerned

Are they really defined by 1 moment of fowl racist language? You don't think people are more complex than that?

theres a difference between a slip of the tongue (which is STILL very questionable) and literally going on a race tirade.

Youre replying to someone who literally thinks it's ok to call black people racial slurs
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You can repeat that all you want but it wont make it true.
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yea, what Kramer was saying was much worse than "just saying the n-word."

as someone brought up, he brought up lynchings as if he was making some kind of point.

dude is trash, but I don't hold any ill will towards him; I just don't think about him until topics like this come up, or I watch a re-run of Seinfeld.
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Hogan isn't forgiven. He's just given another chance at society and hopefully be able to teach from this.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Even then, people are going to disagree with me on this but there are worse sins one can commit than saying racist things.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But I'm not comparing him to murderers or child molesters. I'm comparing him to people who don't go on racist tirades
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

You can repeat that all you want but it wont make it true.

You can deny your racist shitposting but the smell of shit follows you wherever you go
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josifrees posted...

Also watch comedians in cars getting coffee with Michael Richards so cool

Yeah, they talked about the situation on there. You could tell he still felt really bad about it.

Lmao

Hogan didnt slip up once he slipped up multiple times lmao

forgave him a long time ago. he got pissed and said some fucked up things on stage. nothing most people aren't guilty of privately.
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If Mel Gibson can be forgiven, so can Hulk.
...and Kramer.

Racism will never really end unless things like this are forgiven after the person show regret and tries to make amends. That being said I am white, so what the fuck do I know.
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Didnt Hulk Hogan make a private phone call that somebody brought to the public? Same with Dog the Bounty Hunter and Elvis Costello (sort of).

Im not taking up for what was said, but it is something of an invasion of privacy to record private conversations for the purpose of slandering somebody.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

If Mel Gibson can be forgiven, so can Hulk.
...and Kramer.

Jews aren't a race so it isn't racism! Plus they are basically white which means they have white privilege making it impossible to be racist against.

/sarcasm
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Nor should he. The decision to readmitt him, especially without him even remotely acknowledging and apologizing for his actions, is a joke and a huge slap in the face to any black employees of the company

He has apologized many times about this. I don't know what you are going on about. He apologized when Gawker leaked the spy cam footage. He apologized as he shoveled the last ounce of dirt on Gawker's grave. He apologized when WWE fired him.
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Payzmaykr posted...

Didnt Hulk Hogan make a private phone call that somebody brought to the public? Same with Dog the Bounty Hunter and Elvis Costello (sort of).

Im not taking up for what was said, but it is something of an invasion of privacy to record private conversations for the purpose of slandering somebody.

Think it was a sex tape......he won a lawsuit if I remember correctly.
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Payzmaykr posted...

Didnt Hulk Hogan make a private phone call that somebody brought to the public? Same with Dog the Bounty Hunter and Elvis Costello (sort of).

It was part of the Gawker sextape.
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Also, Hogans apology can be tldrd as Im sorry I got caught being racist and not taking away any lesson

soulunison2 posted...

Also, Hogans apology can be tldrd as Im sorry I got caught being racist and not taking away any lesson

Yeah, one of the main things I've heard is that he then went into a speech about how you have to be careful what you say because you never know if you're being recorded these days or not. So it's okay to say shit, just be careful where you say it.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Of course.
Forgiveness is healthy.

i would forgive them both but i'm not going to forgive papa john it's too soon he has to stew in what he has wrought that bastard.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

If Mel Gibson can be forgiven, so can Hulk.
...and Kramer.

Can we also forgive Donald Sterling?
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Rob Cesternino posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

If Mel Gibson can be forgiven, so can Hulk.
...and Kramer.

Can we also forgive Donald Sterling?

It seems easier to just not forgive any of these people until they show they've changed.
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Hulk Hogan is not an ounce sorry beyond the fact that he got caught, and people who cant comprehend why he was let go from a job where his duty was literally to put on a squeaky clean face and sell t shirts to children after going on a lengthy racist rant, regardless of the circumstances of that rants release, are insane and dont comprehend business even on the level of an elementary schooler
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New Day didn't forgive Hulk Hogan.