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mistalightbulb
07/20/18 2:44:20 PM
#52:


Nomadic View posted...
Its certainly interesting. I dont think theres enough push for someone like that to be elected president, but it is interesting to see people interested in an actual ideology rather than Trump is mean!

If she does well as a congresswoman Cortez will be a favorite for president in 10 years or so.
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ledbowman
07/20/18 2:46:55 PM
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Caution999 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sayoria posted...
Guys, guys. Please. I didn't intend for this to initiate fighting!

What you're seeing is triggered conserva-tears.


I'd just prefer not to ever eat a rat. That's all.

People are starving right now.
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Uncle Choad
07/20/18 2:47:03 PM
#54:


Caution999 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sayoria posted...
Guys, guys. Please. I didn't intend for this to initiate fighting!

What you're seeing is triggered conserva-tears.


I'd just prefer not to ever eat a rat. That's all.


I like how the 'conserva-tears' comment admits that it's conservatives who have the better lives/more money.

Of course we do. We understand how to manage a life, be responsible, and work hard.
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The Great Muta 22
07/20/18 2:47:13 PM
#55:


Caution999 posted...
Hope you guys develop a taste for rat because that's what you'll be having for dinner 10 years after you implement Socialism (it works at first, but fails in the end).


You still haven't answered what you think socialism is actually. Why can't you answer that?

A_Good_Boy posted...
Don't know why the typical posters in this topic are so upset. Kansas already tried your experiment of slashing taxes and hoping people will donate to make the state better. They didn't, and the place is now a shithole. Don't know why you'd get upset at a couple of politicians attempting to fix something instead of resorting to the typical GOP tactic of setting an institution on fire and ruling over the ash pile.


And yeah, it shouldn't be surprising that this is the reason why it's on the rise there. Brownback's tax cut in 2012 was an absolute disaster that resulted in hurting the residents on a massive scale, so of course there's going to be a hard push in the other direction. Fuck, it's not any different than Bernie's success in the primaries or Trump's victory in the general in regards to the Rust belt/midwest states. People are pissed off at the status quo and haven't seen results through the typical "two party" system, so they are looking to the edges for an alternative, be it populism or socialism or whatever.
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:47:31 PM
#56:


ledbowman posted...
Caution999 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sayoria posted...
Guys, guys. Please. I didn't intend for this to initiate fighting!

What you're seeing is triggered conserva-tears.


I'd just prefer not to ever eat a rat. That's all.

People are starving right now.


not really
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Gheb
07/20/18 2:47:35 PM
#57:


DarthAragorn posted...
I really didn't want to vote Republican this year but I guess I have to

The Democrats could run a fucking Octopus in a tank that makes its decisions based on different colors of toys it plays with and I'd vote for it over Kris Kobach.

I can't imagine a worse scenario than Brownback 2 on steroids.

And while I'm definitely left of center, I'm still more moderate than anything at least economically. But the Republican that Kansas are throwing out there are just dog shit.
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Damn_Underscore
07/20/18 2:48:32 PM
#58:


How does a rally selling out mean Kansas wants socialism?
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tremain07
07/20/18 2:48:45 PM
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Kanass is what the entire country is going to be under the republican party, a hollowed out husk of a country with only a small part of it living like kings and queens
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The Great Muta 22
07/20/18 2:49:18 PM
#60:


Caution999 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sayoria posted...
Guys, guys. Please. I didn't intend for this to initiate fighting!

What you're seeing is triggered conserva-tears.


I'd just prefer not to ever eat a rat. That's all.


Do you actually have any legitimate criticisms or are you going to use Breitbart scare tactics all day?
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Uncle Choad
07/20/18 2:49:30 PM
#61:


Romes187 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Caution999 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sayoria posted...
Guys, guys. Please. I didn't intend for this to initiate fighting!

What you're seeing is triggered conserva-tears.


I'd just prefer not to ever eat a rat. That's all.

People are starving right now.


not really


We're either starving, or we're all overweight. Either way, there's no way we'll bankrupt a government run health service overnight.
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Caution999
07/20/18 2:51:00 PM
#62:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIdm3cM6zQ" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKhR9i5CGkA" data-time="

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DarthAragorn
07/20/18 2:51:20 PM
#63:


Caution999 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIdm3cM6zQ" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKhR9i5CGkA" data-time="

thats not real socialism

fake news
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The Great Muta 22
07/20/18 2:51:33 PM
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:51:44 PM
#65:


Caution999 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIdm3cM6zQ" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKhR9i5CGkA" data-time="


That's not really socialism though

let me explain how I alone know the way forward
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:55:54 PM
#67:


byron posted...
Wanting universal Healthcare and mandated time off != turning our country into Venezuela.


oh is that all the socialists want? just those two things? nothing else?
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The Great Muta 22
07/20/18 2:59:18 PM
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byron posted...
Romes187 posted...
byron posted...
Wanting universal Healthcare and mandated time off != turning our country into Venezuela.


oh is that all the socialists want? just those two things? nothing else?

What do you think Bernie Sanders wants?


Clearly all of us to feast on rats and other vermin as he laughs from his multiple ivory towers
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Damn_Underscore
07/20/18 3:02:34 PM
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Can someone show an actual plan for Universal Healthcare/Medicare for All that

- Is affordable
- The savings on health insurance won't be cancelled out by increased taxes for most of the country at least

If so I'll support it.
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A_Good_Boy
07/20/18 3:03:24 PM
#72:


CrimsonRage posted...
did Caution literally link to a PragerU vid? lol

Didn't Caution say that he was going to:
1) Stay out of politics?
2)Stop coming to CE?

When are either of those things going to happen anyways?
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Caution999
07/20/18 3:03:31 PM
#73:


CrimsonRage posted...
did Caution literally link to a PragerU vid? lol


and I'm proud of it ;)
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Romes187
07/20/18 3:04:18 PM
#74:


byron posted...
Romes187 posted...
byron posted...
Wanting universal Healthcare and mandated time off != turning our country into Venezuela.


oh is that all the socialists want? just those two things? nothing else?

What do you think Bernie Sanders wants?


Sanders' platform seemed to consist of raising corporate taxes, increasing personal taxes on top earners, redistributing that money in the form of welfare and other social programs including lowered tuition for education.
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Damn_Underscore
07/20/18 3:05:39 PM
#75:


"Make the rich pay their fair share" is a phrase that sounds great but means nothing.
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Questionmarktarius
07/20/18 3:08:18 PM
#77:


Damn_Underscore posted...
Can someone show an actual plan for Universal Healthcare/Medicare for All that

- Is affordable
- The savings on health insurance won't be cancelled out by increased taxes for most of the country at least

If so I'll support it.

VA for everyone.
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Garioshi
07/20/18 3:08:28 PM
#79:


Alt-right in full meltdown today lmao
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Caution999
07/20/18 3:11:22 PM
#80:


Garioshi posted...
Alt-right in full meltdown today lmao


Nobody here is part of the Alt right.
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The Great Muta 22
07/20/18 3:11:31 PM
#81:


Caution999 posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
did Caution literally link to a PragerU vid? lol


and I'm proud of it ;)


That's a stupid thing to be proud of.

You still haven't defined socialism, btw
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Dagon_0
07/20/18 3:13:09 PM
#82:


One step closer to the dream.

American Socialism baby.
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tennisdude818
07/20/18 3:14:35 PM
#83:


Antifar posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"

I look forward to Ocasio-Cortez explaining how she intends to fund literally anything.

Because so far, every time she's been asked, she throws out a feel good answer about how underprivileged people deserve better lives just because. Which sounds nice, in a post-scarcity fantasy world.

This continued action damages Americas legitimacy as a force for good, creates new generations of potential terrorists, and erodes American prosperity. In times when were told that theres not enough money, Republicans and corporate Democrats seem to find the cash to fund a $1.1 trillion fighter jet program or a $1.7 trillion-dollar nuclear weapon modernization program. The costs are extreme: the Pentagons budget for 2018 is $700 billion dollars: to continue fighting an endless War on Terror and refighting the Cold War with a new arms race that nobody can win.


https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1016704302147096576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


The US government creates more terrorists with the war or terror, and it creates more poverty / single motherhood with the war on poverty. I guess this crap will continue until our financial standing implodes.
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Webmaster4531
07/20/18 3:14:47 PM
#84:


Caution999 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Alt-right in full meltdown today lmao


Nobody here is part of the Alt right.

What? Trump supporters are all alt right.
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Caution999
07/20/18 3:18:42 PM
#85:


Webmaster4531 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Alt-right in full meltdown today lmao


Nobody here is part of the Alt right.

What? Trump supporters are all alt right.


Regular Trump supporters are called Trump supporters. Or, maybe just Conservatives.
RINOs are people that are conservative, but do not like Trump.

Alt-Right are the extreme nut jobs (hence the term, alternative right) that believe in white nationalism or are part of the KKK or something.
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Webmaster4531
07/20/18 3:21:34 PM
#86:


Caution999 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Alt-right in full meltdown today lmao


Nobody here is part of the Alt right.

What? Trump supporters are all alt right.


Regular Trump supporters are called Trump supporters. Or, maybe just Conservatives.
RINOs are people that are conservative, but do not like Trump.

Alt-Right are the extreme nut jobs (hence the term, alternative right) that believe in white nationalism or are part of the KKK or something.

Exactly, my point.
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Caution999
07/20/18 3:21:58 PM
#87:


Ok, so prove how I'm a neo nazi.
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Webmaster4531
07/20/18 3:22:28 PM
#88:


Caution999 posted...
Ok, so prove how I'm a neo nazi.

You a Trump supporter?
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Caution999
07/20/18 3:23:10 PM
#89:


Ok, dude.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night. There are a lot of good people that are Trump supporters. This is honestly sad.
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DarthGravid
07/20/18 3:26:32 PM
#90:


Socialism in Kansas?

6sznMzE

A GOP candidate could throw puppies and kittens into a wood chipper at a rally and not lose a single vote in Kansas. I lived there for 15 years. Democrats don't even bother to run in some places.
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Questionmarktarius
07/20/18 3:27:50 PM
#91:


DarthGravid posted...
Socialism in Kansas?

But, watch what happens when anyone even suggests cutting ag subsidies.
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The Great Muta 22
07/20/18 3:35:03 PM
#92:


Caution999 posted...
Ok, dude.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night. There are a lot of good people that are Trump supporters. This is honestly sad.


I still want you to tell me what you think socialism is in your own words. Why is this such a struggle for you?
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A_Good_Boy
07/20/18 3:38:45 PM
#93:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Ok, dude.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night. There are a lot of good people that are Trump supporters. This is honestly sad.


I still want you to tell me what you think socialism is in your own words. Why is this such a struggle for you?

I'm surprised he hasn't already sourced the Prager U video about it.
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BLAKUboy
07/20/18 3:39:17 PM
#94:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Didn't Caution say that he was going to:
1) Stay out of politics?
2)Stop coming to CE?

When are either of those things going to happen anyways?

Didn't he try moving over to 261 and they fucking demolished him so he came crying back here?
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darkjedilink
07/20/18 3:42:56 PM
#95:


Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
And what has Detroit been ruined by?

The city gave special treatment to and based its existence around the automotive industry then they picked up shop and moved to China

Capitalism at its finest

And why did they pick up and move to China?

Oh, that's right - Dems made it impossible for the largest car company in the world to turn a profit.
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A_Good_Boy
07/20/18 3:44:59 PM
#96:


BLAKUboy posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Didn't Caution say that he was going to:
1) Stay out of politics?
2)Stop coming to CE?

When are either of those things going to happen anyways?

Didn't he try moving over to 261 and they fucking demolished him so he came crying back here?

If that actually happened then I'm sad that I missed it.
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Caution999
07/20/18 3:45:38 PM
#97:


The people on 261 actually believe Hillary didn't commit a crime.

At least on here people admit that, but figure it wasn't a big deal.
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Questionmarktarius
07/20/18 3:46:20 PM
#98:


darkjedilink posted...
Oh, that's right - Dems made it impossible for the largest car company in the world to turn a profit.

this seems like a good place for a [citation needed]

Were it Detroit (or even the UAW) running GM into the ground, and not GM itself, they would have relocated to a right-to-work state in the south, where Toyota and Honda are building cars right now.
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A_Good_Boy
07/20/18 3:47:41 PM
#99:


Caution999 posted...
The people on 261 actually believe Hillary didn't commit a crime.

At least on here people admit that, but figure it wasn't a big deal.

I don't think that's what they said.
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Caution999
07/20/18 3:54:37 PM
#100:


I'm not lying.

I had a few people tell me she never committed a crime. Literally verbatim.
I mean, I can at least respect people on here who admit that, but tell me Trump is worse or whatever.
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A_Good_Boy
07/20/18 3:56:25 PM
#101:


Caution999 posted...
I'm not lying.

You can't even start your post off sincerely, yet you want people to believe that 261 thinks Hillary has never committed a crime.
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