Board 8 > Tiny toon adventures mafia topic 5- Invading Your TV!

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By the way Ashe what do you make of Red and Chris fighting last night
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Ashethan posted...

In which case how is that still not true when I'm also town? 3 town lynches (or even 4 if you count Tony if he's town too) and scum could do whatever they wanted. It allows them to hide. My lynch being the third viable lynch means nothing for my alignment.

I don't think you really ended up in danger at the end though. I'm not entirely sure when you got the third vote but i dont think anyone actively tried to kill you at the end.

Ashethan posted...

Then it also feels (contrary to what Corrik says) more like he's trying to out town protection roles with this whole "Plum was an SK kill" thing.

This is just not true btw.

So catching up, I saw FD continues to tunnel in on me, depite he said he was going to focus else where...

Oh he does it just a little bit...

Other then that I see pj is also in the limelight, perhaps I should go reread what he's said
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

Other then that I see pj is also in the limelight, perhaps I should go reread what he's said

This wont take long.

Ashethan posted...

All of PJ's day 2 posts:

pjbasis posted...

I would have unvoted if I was around but I got called to make some deliveries.

Fairly generic comment. Kind of saying "Not my fault power got lynched, I was busy." I mean if he's town, it's obviously true. But slightly scummy to say "Aww man, sorry I started that power lynch."

pjbasis posted...

From this topic FD and Tony have pinged my town radar pretty strongly.

Town read on two people, but without much context.

pjbasis posted...

Basically this. There's a natural or organic sense to his inconsistencies as town. When he's scum it's really easy to see the seams.

Town read on Zam, with a bit more context.

pjbasis posted...

I don't see how in Day 1 the scum team would need to sow confusion after a mislynch.

Talking about the death after the mislynch.

pjbasis posted...

It's been a long time since I've seen that

I'll have to go back and see what this was even in reference to. I'm thinking it was "Nala is purring" by blade.

Yeah, I don't even have to worry about fitting them all into one post. That's... pretty stark lack of content from pj today, with roughly 12 hours left in day.

Well then after seeing this, which has all of PJ's posts, I'd be up for a pj lynch, it seems he really hasn't posted much of anything all of day 2.
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Meow1000 posted...

By the way Ashe what do you make of Red and Chris fighting last night

I think Chris, as either alignment, uses logic to attack what he perceives as bad logic from Red. Red's argument was essentially "Chris is alive, Scum's kill was blocked, and SK killed Plum" From which you would gather that Chris being alive isn't that suspicious. Scum's kill was blocked. Meaning Chris would obviously still be alive. I mean if he's scum, he's alive because scum didn't kill scum and SK killed plum. If he's town, he's alive because scum couldn't kill him when their kill was blocked.

Chris feels that Red is keeping information from him that will help him solve the game. I think he'd do this as either alignment tbh. He's a highly skilled player, and they're called the 'dream team' for a reason.

Leafeon13N posted...

I don't think you really ended up in danger at the end though. I'm not entirely sure when you got the third vote but i dont think anyone actively tried to kill you at the end.

I wasn't in that much danger, but if all three of us are town... scum really have no reason to put me in that much danger. Come in and voting last minute without any reasoning tends to draw suspicion your way. I had three votes on me for a while. Sure, they could've voted me earlier. They could've done the same with Nana too.
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Also, it's now been over 24 hours since pj's last post in a mafia topic.
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Ashethan posted...

I wasn't in that much danger, but if all three of us are town... scum really have no reason to put me in that much danger. Come in and voting last minute without any reasoning tends to draw suspicion your way. I had three votes on me for a while. Sure, they could've voted me earlier. They could've done the same with Nana too.

This is where you hit the difference though. In some alternate universe, Nana actually did die.

(the end of the day was...quite strange)
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red13n posted...

This is where you hit the difference though. In some alternate universe, Nana actually did die.

Sure, but that's pretty meaningless as far as my alignment goes. If all three of us are town, scum doesn't care which of us gets lynched. They're quite happy town is fighting amongst themselves. They can rest easy knowing there's three town lynches being fought over.
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Ashethan posted...

Sure, but that's pretty meaningless as far as my alignment goes. If all three of us are town, scum doesn't care which of us gets lynched. They're quite happy town is fighting amongst themselves. They can rest easy knowing there's three town lynches being fought over.

this is making the assumption everyone active at the end is town.
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red13n posted...

this is making the assumption everyone active at the end is town.

Where'd I make that assumption at?

2 hours before day ended yesterday the top lynches were: Me and Nana. (And Nana hadn't voted for me)

Scum would be content with any town lynch. Why prefer one over the other in any of those cases? I'd imagine it'd be easier for them to make a case on Nana than it would be on me, and even easier to make a case on 5tarscream showing up at the end like he did. (Though I still don't think it was that scummy, but that's again from my perspective)

Like... why would scum benefit more from my lynch as town, than from Nana's?
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Ashethan posted...

Where'd I make that assumption at?

you were the one that said it was scum letting town cannibalize itself.
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red13n posted...

you were the one that said it was scum letting town cannibalize itself.

Actually, I said let town fight amongst themselves. Meaning me/nana and eventually 5tarscream (who again, showed up with like 10 minutes left in day).

I mean your argument is essentially "You didn't die, so you're scum" which is the same argument you used on Chris, except Scum has no reason to want me dead as town other than needing town players dead. For which Nana/Scare (if they're town) and 5tarscream would work. That's not to mention that town has some say in lynches, being the majority and all.

Your logic simply doesn't follow.
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Reading topic 4, but I'm here now if someone wants to engage me directly.
The Scare vs Zach arc is fun to read. I think theyre both town right now.

Got some nasty vibes Chris and corrik are scum too
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pjbasis posted...

Reading topic 4, but I'm here now if someone wants to engage me directly.
The Scare vs Zach arc is fun to read. I think theyre both town right now.

Got some nasty vibes Chris and corrik are scum too

How did you reach this conclusion?
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Which conclusion?

I always thought Zach felt towny, Scare because I actually understand where he's coming from. Actually overdone confidence/bravada in scumhunting is somethings a scum tactic from him, but usually he has to rely on really bogus arguments for that. There's probably more of this I'll be able to glean from.

Chris and Corrik? Eh...we'll call it gut for now
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ScareChan posted...

For someone that you said was acting very emotional he said he was fine and then just shut down on me Blade

Town would you know, actually counter attack my argument here. Thats your cue to do so Zach

I don't know this is kind of a scare scum post. Just kind of really assuming a hard "town vs scum" mentality I don't think exists or as much as he thinks it does. Or rather, it's like he's arguing from the perspective of a lawyer? He's trying to convince other people something is true even if he doesn't have to believe it himself.
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ColZach posted...

If it wasnt obvious, my top 3 scum are Scare, Blade, and Zam at this point. Someone who isnt one of those three and someone who is one of those three tell me why Im right/wrong

Is this really a scum members top 3?
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ScareChan posted...

FakeAccount3000 posted...

SK doesn't mean Scum Kill does it? I was thinking it did at first but I'm hearing it mentioned as something else.

I feel he is riding the new thing here. All I have seen is him asking questions

Forceful_Dragon posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...[D1, T2, P185]

Force ful dragon

Fd ffd same thing

I will end you.

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FakeAccount3000 posted...[D1, T2, P177]

Im aware its a thing you guys have been talking about. Someone is using an old game board for mafia discussion or something I assume?

Honestly this post for me starts to cross into the "intentionally oblivious territory" ane makes me suspicious. It's almost like Fake is trying to hard to not understand the concept of a scum board to the point of "I'll make a post that implies that I think the scum board is on a random dead board and it will look like i think that because I'm new and don't realize different websides are used for that kind of thing".

This particular post just sits funny to me.

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red13n posted...[D1, T2, P180]

nana has been...inactive.

This post came at an odd time considering Nana was in the middle of a very active and very visible back and forth with Fake.

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I didnt know you guys had a separate website as a mafia community though. I dont interact with people from GameFAQs much outside of GameFAQs. And if youre taking about an unrelated mafia community that you guys all go to for strategy that definitely explains how youre getting a topic and a half of posts in the time Ive been asleep. Frankly, Im not sure I can keep up at this pace.

At the risk of just asking questions how far back am I expected to read here? Whats common courtesy?
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pjbasis posted...

ColZach posted...

If it wasnt obvious, my top 3 scum are Scare, Blade, and Zam at this point. Someone who isnt one of those three and someone who is one of those three tell me why Im right/wrong

Is this really a scum members top 3?

It's "people who have made Zach mad"
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Meow1000 posted...

MZero are you really scum again

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FakeAccount3000 posted...

ScareChan posted...

FakeAccount3000 posted...

SK doesn't mean Scum Kill does it? I was thinking it did at first but I'm hearing it mentioned as something else.

I feel he is riding the new thing here. All I have seen is him asking questions

Forceful_Dragon posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...[D1, T2, P185]

Force ful dragon

Fd ffd same thing

I will end you.

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FakeAccount3000 posted...[D1, T2, P177]

Im aware its a thing you guys have been talking about. Someone is using an old game board for mafia discussion or something I assume?

Honestly this post for me starts to cross into the "intentionally oblivious territory" ane makes me suspicious. It's almost like Fake is trying to hard to not understand the concept of a scum board to the point of "I'll make a post that implies that I think the scum board is on a random dead board and it will look like i think that because I'm new and don't realize different websides are used for that kind of thing".

This particular post just sits funny to me.

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red13n posted...[D1, T2, P180]

nana has been...inactive.

This post came at an odd time considering Nana was in the middle of a very active and very visible back and forth with Fake.

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I didnt know you guys had a separate website as a mafia community though. I dont interact with people from GameFAQs much outside of GameFAQs. And if youre taking about an unrelated mafia community that you guys all go to for strategy that definitely explains how youre getting a topic and a half of posts in the time Ive been asleep. Frankly, Im not sure I can keep up at this pace.

At the risk of just asking questions how far back am I expected to read here? Whats common courtesy?

This game has been pretty slow

Faster than recent ones but still.
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Like in Wrestling Mafia, Chris, Dels, and I filled up almost an entire topic by ourselves between like 3am-6am only
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(It's been years since we had a game like that though)
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Pj you doubled your post content in like 10 minutes where were you earlier
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Had a post where I was doing a quick write up on everyone, but clicked on a dumbass ad. I am now angry again.

To save from that kind of headache if you intend to make a long post do it on something like notepad, then transfer it over
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There is no way on Warth is ever be able to follow that without knowing you guys better. This is definitely making me realize Im little better than the old contest seasonals.

Explain to me why asking someone about nana is supposed to be a scum tell. How do you question someone without questioning them about someone? I even changed my mind about nana after the mislynch.

All Ive been posting since then is garbage because Im struggling to keep my head above water with all these posts. From everything people have been saying scum would know thjngs about who is who and be dont constructive by now. Its only town who is completely terrible at this that would be spinning their wheels this hard.

Chris, Meow, Ive read you as town so far so is it legal to find a web page to read about mafia? Because I clearly need to.
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Meow1000 posted...

Pj you doubled your post content in like 10 minutes where were you earlier

Oh you know, anything else
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Meow1000 posted...

pjbasis posted...

ColZach posted...

If it wasnt obvious, my top 3 scum are Scare, Blade, and Zam at this point. Someone who isnt one of those three and someone who is one of those three tell me why Im right/wrong

Is this really a scum members top 3?

It's "people who have made Zach mad"

Scare and Zam didnt make me mad, but keep pushing this nonsense.

1. Alakazamtrainer

I could write Zam pass here and nobody would bat an eye but Im still keeping him on my watch list. If he took a shit in IW mafia (IIRC) Im sure hes learned from that game and has been hoping to put some new scum strategy into action.

2. Ashetan

I have a town read here. Good discussion and analysis of stuff, so this guy smells good.

3. ChaosTonyV4

The other half of the emoji duo. Has had some reactions that have rubbed me the wrong way but my read isnt clear town or scum.

5. Corrik

Corriks attitude this game vaguely reminds me of Blade mafia where he was scum, and got kicked into gear after people noted he was acting oddly. His claim or die quota is not satisfied, but its close. No clear read either way.

6. DoomTheGyarados (Chris)

Chris is giving me a town read this game. Although the fact he hasnt already lynched scum acts against him.

7. FakeAccount3000

This guy or Scare has to be scum IMO. The interaction yesterday just screams it. Theres been several times where his noobie defense came up and rubbed me the wrong way.

8. Forceful_Dragon

Im getting a town FD read this game, for reasons similar to Ashe.

9. MZero (formerly IGCD)

Has felt inactive this game. I dont have a good read.

10. Meow1000 (Blade)

Is still throwing shade (are you sure you arent upset?) but has been making good discussion, which keeps him on my watch list but is certainly near the bottom of it.

11. ScareChan (formerly Nana)

FA or Scare is scum. I think at least. The argument against me felt manufactured but Im hoping that on a reread I see the things that scare did to make him so insistent on pressuring me so heavily. Near the top of my watch list.

12. pjbasis

Was involved in the odd voting interaction day 1 that put Zam in my sights to begin with, but asides from that has been kind of oddly inactive.

13. red13n

As a lot of people have pointed out, red has been exhibiting some odd conversation habits and ignoring certain things while emphasizing others. Its rubbing me the wrong way.

14. TheSultanOfSlam

Dont have a great read here, but seems to be going with the flow for a lot of things which makes him slightly sus.

Meow1000 posted...

To save from that kind of headache if you intend to make a long post do it on something like notepad, then transfer it over

This is good advice, thank you friend

@dowolf has replaced @MZero11
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Claim or die

Ashethan posted...

I mean your argument is essentially "You didn't die, so you're scum" which is the same argument you used on Chris, except Scum has no reason to want me dead as town other than needing town players dead. For which Nana/Scare (if they're town) and 5tarscream would work. That's not to mention that town has some say in lynches, being the majority and all.

Your logic simply doesn't follow.

not you didnt die. No one was actively trying to push your lynch at the end of the day. Of the 3 leading lynch leaders, two of them actually got lynched(This should sound crazy, in this game, it doesnt). There was no pressure towards you.
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ColZach posted...

As a lot of people have pointed out, red has been exhibiting some odd conversation habits and ignoring certain things while emphasizing others. Its rubbing me the wrong way.

ignoring certain things?

I've ignored 1 thing(The same thing, multiple times). If you can come up with things, I'd be interested in clearing the rest of it up.
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Zach, youre right. Im gong to try to stop relying on saying Im new as a defense. I dont know the best strategies or the people, but Im going to make an effort to be more useful by trying to find scum instead of just trying to defend myself.

Also WHAT just happened
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red13n posted...

ColZach posted...

As a lot of people have pointed out, red has been exhibiting some odd conversation habits and ignoring certain things while emphasizing others. Its rubbing me the wrong way.

ignoring certain things?

I've ignored 1 thing(The same thing, multiple times). If you can come up with things, I'd be interested in clearing the rest of it up.

What have you ignored multiple times?
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I think actively and brazenly ignoring even one thing is not a good town mindset

FakeAccount3000 posted...

Zach, youre right. Im gong to try to stop relying on saying Im new as a defense. I dont know the best strategies or the people, but Im going to make an effort to be more useful by trying to find scum instead of just trying to defend myself.

Also WHAT just happened

Also for reference you are absolutely allowed to google mafia terms/roles.

eaedwards6400 posted...

@dowolf has replaced @MZero11

#MZero'sReplacementIsAlwaysScum
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red13n posted...

not you didnt die. No one was actively trying to push your lynch at the end of the day. Of the 3 leading lynch leaders, two of them actually got lynched(This should sound crazy, in this game, it doesnt). There was no pressure towards you.

What was there to pressure me on?

I mean Chris asked you for a case, and best you could come up with was "He was different than last game" which Chris shot down, and then you said "Well he only changed after he got pressured" or something like that.
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ColZach posted...

I think actively and brazenly ignoring even one thing is not a good town mindset

Eh

While I agree with you it's something a lot of us has done before. Only one data point for it isn't much
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Meow1000 posted...

ColZach posted...

I think actively and brazenly ignoring even one thing is not a good town mindset

Eh

While I agree with you it's something a lot of us has done before. Only one data point for it isn't much

I agree with you. Its not a good town mindset, but certainly not detrimental.

Meow1000 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Wow, classic B8 maneuver.

We learn nothing from this lynch btw :x

Yes, we do.

If he's scum, Nana is town.

I was going to ask Meow why he thought that lynching 5tarscream would prove that nana is town. But now there are two different people involved.
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Oh I misread the replacement.
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Ashethan posted...

I mean Chris asked you for a case, and best you could come up with was "He was different than last game" which Chris shot down, and then you said "Well he only changed after he got pressured" or something like that.

you were different, got called out on it multiple times. Making similar posts after being called out on it doesn't suddenly mean you weren't different prior. It really is that simple.
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FakeAccount3000 posted...

Meow1000 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Wow, classic B8 maneuver.

We learn nothing from this lynch btw :x

Yes, we do.

If he's scum, Nana is town.

I was going to ask Meow why he thought that lynching 5tarscream would prove that nana is town. But now there are two different people involved.

His being scum drastically increased the chance of Nana being town because I don't think scum 5tarscream comes in with that awful vote and sticks it on a scumbuddy unless all three were scum.
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The B8 Vets Civil War was a great arc to read.

Didn't really move the plot forward but lots of high intensity regardless
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@pjbasis posted...

The B8 Vets Civil War was a great arc to read.

Didn't really move the plot forward but lots of high intensity regardless

What are your reads for people not named blade, Chris, corrik or zach?
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