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Antifar
07/26/18 12:32:16 PM
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- Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/netanyahu-absolves-***ler-of-guilt-1.5411578

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked public uproar when on Tuesday he claimed that the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was the one who planted the idea of the extermination of European Jewry in Adolf Hitler's mind. The Nazi ruler, Netanyahu said, had no intention of killing the Jews, but only to expel them.

In a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, Netanyahu described a meeting between Husseini and Hitler in November, 1941: "Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jew. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here (to Palestine).' According to Netanyahu, Hitler then asked: "What should I do with them?" and the mufti replied: "Burn them."

Netanyahu's remarks were quick to spark a social media storm, though Netanyahu made a similar claim during a Knesset speech in 2012, where he described the Husseini as "one of the leading architects" of the final solution.

The claim that Husseini was the one to initiate the extermination of European Jewry had been suggested by a number of historians at the fringes of Holocaust research, but was rejected by most accepted scholars.

The argument concerning Husseini's role was recently mentioned in a book by Barry Rubin and Wolfgang G. Schwanitz, "Nazis, Islamists, and the Making of the Modern Middle East." The authors, like Netanyahu, draw a straight line between the mufti's support of Hitler and the policy of the Palestinian Liberation Organization under Yasser Arafat.

But even these two researchers do not claim that the dialogue described by Netanyahu ever took place.


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ArchiePeck
07/26/18 12:33:24 PM
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Israel is a racist apartheid state. Boycott them.
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Zikten
07/26/18 12:33:53 PM
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We don't really know what was in Hitler's head.
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FaultyGourry
07/26/18 12:34:26 PM
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Wow. I lived to see the day Israel defending literally Hitler. Wtf...
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Alphamon
07/26/18 12:35:37 PM
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this is old. why is it getting shared so much recently?
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TheRealDill2000
07/26/18 12:36:25 PM
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ArchiePeck posted...
Israel is a racist apartheid state. Boycott them.

Boycott our ally!? That makes 0 sense to me.
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Blighboy
07/26/18 12:36:34 PM
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Literal fucking Israel trying to deflect the Holocaust away from Nazis

Just so they can shit on brown people

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MarqueeSeries
07/26/18 12:36:49 PM
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I mean, I could totally see the Mufti suggesting that, but that doesn't absolve Hitler or Germany of their crimes
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SuperMedz3
07/26/18 12:37:13 PM
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It would cost to much time effort and money to expel them so they walled off sections of cities to keep them in.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/26/18 12:37:34 PM
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no see

if they can soften Hitler's genocide

their genocide of Palestinians will not seem as harsh
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Antifar
07/26/18 12:37:35 PM
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Alphamon posted...
this is old. why is it getting shared so much recently?

Ah shit, I didn't spot the date. My bad.
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boxington
07/26/18 12:37:37 PM
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Zikten posted...
We don't really know what was in Hitler's head.

Mein Kampf?
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Darkman124
07/26/18 12:37:54 PM
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mass killings of jews started as early as June 1941 so i have no idea what the fuck he's talking about

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
no see

if they can soften Hitler's genocide

their genocide of Palestinians will not seem as harsh


motivation seems less to soften Hitler's genocide

more to suggest Palestinians were responsible for it

thereby making a genocide of Palestinians seem justified
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ElatedVenusaur
07/26/18 12:38:23 PM
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Alphamon posted...
this is old. why is it getting shared so much recently?

Because he's shifting the blame from Hitler to a Palestinian cleric?
I wonder if that's been reflected in Israeli policy lately.
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Alphamon
07/26/18 12:41:00 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Alphamon posted...
this is old. why is it getting shared so much recently?

Because he's shifting the blame from Hitler to a Palestinian cleric?
I wonder if that's been reflected in Israeli policy lately.


no i have seen this posted like 3 times in a span of 5 hours.

is it on r worldnews?
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weekoldhotdog
07/26/18 12:42:05 PM
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Zikten
07/26/18 12:42:46 PM
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boxington posted...
Zikten posted...
We don't really know what was in Hitler's head.

Mein Kampf?


Or a bullet

Meh

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ThyCorndog
07/26/18 12:43:04 PM
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israel is great at propaganda
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SuperMedz3
07/26/18 12:44:40 PM
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It took a while to dearm the citizens
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ThePieReborn
07/26/18 12:50:04 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
mass killings of jews started as early as June 1941 so i have no idea what the fuck he's talking about

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
no see

if they can soften Hitler's genocide

their genocide of Palestinians will not seem as harsh


motivation seems less to soften Hitler's genocide

more to suggest Palestinians were responsible for it

thereby making a genocide of Palestinians seem justified

I've serious reservations about the assertion that al-Husseini had such pervasive influence over Himmler, Heydrich, and Eichmann in orchestrating the Holocaust. So I agree with your assessment of the motivation.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/26/18 12:53:47 PM
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Israel is a horrible place if your dick isn't cut.
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s0nicfan
07/26/18 12:54:30 PM
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Oct 21, 2015 3:25 AM

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Darkman124
07/26/18 12:54:52 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
I've serious reservations about the assertion that al-Husseini had such pervasive influence over Himmler, Heydrich, and Eichmann in orchestrating the Holocaust. So I agree with your assessment of the motivation.

yeah it is really obvious to anyone with any historical knowledge (or who has read any nazi writing) that they'd view arabs as useful idiots of a lesser race to manipulate and discard once the british were defeated

and that it was al-Husseini who was influenced by the nazis not the other way around

he was famous for speaking of finishing hitler's work. he was NOT famous for speaking of inspiring it. a man like him would've claimed it if he'd done it.
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bover_87
07/26/18 12:55:08 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Oct 21, 2015 3:25 AM

Please do show us where Bibi's opinion has changed since then.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/26/18 12:56:09 PM
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A historical nuance I'm not highly concerned with, let the scholars duke it out.
What happened happened and the perpetrators are to blame. That said, it's not like the Islamic world has been hushed about their disdain for Jews and calls for genocide.

Lastly, pearl clutchers complaining about "softening" the genocide are the same one's calling everyone a Nazi and comparing U.S policy on borders, ICE, etc to genocide so excuse me if I don't believe you're making these points in good faith.
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The Great Muta 22
07/26/18 12:58:17 PM
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Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rowsat the Marienplatz in Munich, for exampleas many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.

Statement to Josef Heil, 1922 quoted in Gerald Fleming, Hitler and the Final Solution


Took all of the second CTRL+F "Jews" on the Wikiquote page for Hitler
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/26/18 1:00:15 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Took all of the second CTRL+F "Jews" on the Wikiquote page for Hitler


Yeah but how many clicks did it take to get to that page?
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The Great Muta 22
07/26/18 1:03:44 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Took all of the second CTRL+F "Jews" on the Wikiquote page for Hitler


Yeah but how many clicks did it take to get to that page?


Uh...
'Open new tab' - one
'Type "Hitler quotes about Jews" and hit enter' - two
'Click first result' - three
'Hit Ctrl+f and type jew' - four
'Hit enter twice' - five

So like five?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/26/18 1:04:37 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Took all of the second CTRL+F "Jews" on the Wikiquote page for Hitler


Yeah but how many clicks did it take to get to that page?


Uh...
'Open new tab' - one
'Type "Hitler quotes about Jews" and hit enter' - two
'Click first result' - three
'Hit Ctrl+f and type jew' - four
'Hit enter twice' - five

So like five?


lol, referencing the game dude.

Go to wiki, hit random article, then see how many links it takes to get to Hitler.
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ThePieReborn
07/26/18 1:05:37 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Took all of the second CTRL+F "Jews" on the Wikiquote page for Hitler


Yeah but how many clicks did it take to get to that page?


Uh...
'Open new tab' - one
'Type "Hitler quotes about Jews" and hit enter' - two
'Click first result' - three
'Hit Ctrl+f and type jew' - four
'Hit enter twice' - five

So like five?


lol, referencing the game dude.

Go to wiki, hit random article, then see how many links it takes to get to Hitler.

I've got nothing better to do at work. I'll be back.
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-Van_Zan-
07/26/18 1:05:56 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Israel is a horrible place if your dick isn't cut.

My uncut limitless chad dick has been there several times and disagrees. The place is dope.
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ThePieReborn
07/26/18 1:08:58 PM
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Three clicks. Year of 1466->German language->Germany->Hitler.
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The Great Muta 22
07/26/18 1:09:09 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
lol, referencing the game dude.

Go to wiki, hit random article, then see how many links it takes to get to Hitler.


Ah, my mistake. Godwikis law, basically
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/26/18 1:12:43 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
Three clicks. Year of 1466->German language->Germany->Hitler.


That's the usual route, Hurt me plenty = no Germany. Nightmare = No Germany, no WW2. GL.
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Antifar
07/26/18 1:26:13 PM
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List of Hartford Whalers players -> Andrei Nikolishin -> Russia -> Hitler
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07/26/18 1:27:34 PM
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