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soulunison2
07/31/18 11:27:46 PM
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Its a good game that gets praise it doesnt deserve from casuals who havent explored their respective genres
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LordFarquad1312
07/31/18 11:28:23 PM
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BotW is a fantastic game tho.
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soulunison2
07/31/18 11:29:14 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
BotW is a fantastic game tho.


Yeah but its nothing really impressive
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/31/18 11:30:14 PM
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It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.
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soulunison2
07/31/18 11:30:51 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists
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Tyranthraxus
07/31/18 11:32:11 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
BotW is a fantastic game tho.


Yeah but its nothing really impressive

I disagree.

Yeah, sure, it didn't do anything that wasn't done in other games, but it was presented and polished to such a high level of quality that it definitely deserves praise.
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soulunison2
07/31/18 11:33:03 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
soulunison2 posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
BotW is a fantastic game tho.


Yeah but its nothing really impressive

I disagree.

Yeah, sure, it didn't do anything that wasn't done in other games, but it was presented and polished to such a high level of quality that it definitely deserves praise.


Its a good game but it doesnt deserve all that OMG THIS IS THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME REDINE THE SOULSLIKE GENRE stuff it gets
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AvantgardeAClue
07/31/18 11:33:58 PM
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I just want Bravely Third or Switch ports of the first two
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MarqueeSeries
07/31/18 11:34:33 PM
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Agree with the topic title

Both Octopath and BOTW put a big stupid smile on my face for hours

They both deserve all the praise
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soulunison2
07/31/18 11:34:41 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
I just want Bravely Third or Switch ports of the first two


Damn that would be perfect
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soulunison2
07/31/18 11:35:07 PM
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MarqueeSeries posted...
Agree with the topic title

Both Octopath and BOTW put a big stupid smile on my face for hours

They both deserve all the praise


10/10 I see what you did there
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/31/18 11:36:39 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists


Persona is not a throw-back style JRPG. Hell, half the game is a social networking game. I love Persona 5, don't get me wrong. But comparing these two is crazy.
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gunplagirl
07/31/18 11:36:59 PM
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Isn't octopath just a modern live a live?
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soulunison2
07/31/18 11:38:07 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists


Persona is not a throw-back style JRPG. Hell, half the game is a social networking game. I love Persona 5, don't get me wrong. But comparing these two is crazy.


Thats a dumb thing to say tho

Theyre both JRPGS marketed with a gimmick why not compare the two

Persona 5 is leaps and bounds better than Octopath
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Darmik
07/31/18 11:39:37 PM
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I don't think Octopath has gotten anywhere near the critical acclaim of BOTW.

Octopath is more celebrated as a comeback of a traditional SNES style of JRPG. Similar to comeback games like Stardew Valley or Axiom Verge really. Just released by a major publisher.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/31/18 11:40:10 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists


Persona is not a throw-back style JRPG. Hell, half the game is a social networking game. I love Persona 5, don't get me wrong. But comparing these two is crazy.


Thats a dumb thing to say tho

Theyre both JRPGS marketed with a gimmick why not compare the two

Persona 5 is leaps and bounds better than Octopath


Persona 5 has entirely different battle systems, styles of story telling, and focus.

That would be like comparing Earthbound and Etrian Odyssey cause they're both JRPG's.
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soulunison2
07/31/18 11:57:03 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists


Persona is not a throw-back style JRPG. Hell, half the game is a social networking game. I love Persona 5, don't get me wrong. But comparing these two is crazy.


Thats a dumb thing to say tho

Theyre both JRPGS marketed with a gimmick why not compare the two

Persona 5 is leaps and bounds better than Octopath


Persona 5 has entirely different battle systems, styles of story telling, and focus.

That would be like comparing Earthbound and Etrian Odyssey cause they're both JRPG's.


Wut they both have the same exploit the enemy weakness system
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Squall28
07/31/18 11:57:59 PM
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It's a good game on a Nintendo console, so therefore it must be the best game of all time?
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Alpha218
07/31/18 11:59:19 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists


Persona is not a throw-back style JRPG. Hell, half the game is a social networking game. I love Persona 5, don't get me wrong. But comparing these two is crazy.

Don't even bother

Idk why but whenever someone has something positive to say about Octopath for some reason people instantly bring up Persona even though they're completely different games

This guy isn't the first person I've seen do this
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soulunison2
08/01/18 12:00:13 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists


Persona is not a throw-back style JRPG. Hell, half the game is a social networking game. I love Persona 5, don't get me wrong. But comparing these two is crazy.

Don't even bother

Idk why but whenever someone has something positive to say about Octopath for some reason people instantly bring up Persona even though they're completely different games

This guy isn't the first person I've seen do this


Because persona got it right

Maybe let go a bit on the bias?
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/01/18 12:01:12 AM
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soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists


Persona is not a throw-back style JRPG. Hell, half the game is a social networking game. I love Persona 5, don't get me wrong. But comparing these two is crazy.


Thats a dumb thing to say tho

Theyre both JRPGS marketed with a gimmick why not compare the two

Persona 5 is leaps and bounds better than Octopath


Persona 5 has entirely different battle systems, styles of story telling, and focus.

That would be like comparing Earthbound and Etrian Odyssey cause they're both JRPG's.


Wut they both have the same exploit the enemy weakness system


Persona 5 is more akin to Pokemon than it is to Octopath. And again, half of Persona 5 is a social life simulator. I don't really see that in Octopath.
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Kisai
08/01/18 12:02:13 AM
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I hate that term.
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soulunison2
08/01/18 12:04:57 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It's one of the best JRPG's in a few years. Especially in this style.

We haven't had a lot of excellent throw-back style JRPG's recently.


Wut

Persona is a thing that exists


Persona is not a throw-back style JRPG. Hell, half the game is a social networking game. I love Persona 5, don't get me wrong. But comparing these two is crazy.


Thats a dumb thing to say tho

Theyre both JRPGS marketed with a gimmick why not compare the two

Persona 5 is leaps and bounds better than Octopath


Persona 5 has entirely different battle systems, styles of story telling, and focus.

That would be like comparing Earthbound and Etrian Odyssey cause they're both JRPG's.


Wut they both have the same exploit the enemy weakness system


Persona 5 is more akin to Pokemon than it is to Octopath. And again, half of Persona 5 is a social life simulator. I don't really see that in Octopath.


I wouldnt say Pokmon id say personas are highly customizable add ons similar to how allure works in Octopath

And Id say the dating sims aspects are just well written sidewuests
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/01/18 12:05:38 AM
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Also, Persona 5 was released to universal love and acclaim. Lots of people have talked about the shortcomings of Octopath.

Persona 5 Metacritic is 9.3, with a user score of 9.1.

Octopath Metacritic is 8.4, with a user score of 8.1.

So... WTF is your issue again? Both critics and fans agree that Persona 5 is DEFINITELY a better game.
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soulunison2
08/01/18 12:07:11 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Also, Persona 5 was released to universal love and acclaim. Lots of people have talked about the shortcomings of Octopath.

Persona 5 Metacritic is 9.3, with a user score of 9.1.

Octopath Metacritic is 8.4, with a user score of 8.1.

So... WTF is your issue again? Both critics and fans agree that Persona 5 is DEFINITELY a better game.


Octopath is a great game that doesnt deserve the praise it gets like botw
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AvantgardeAClue
08/01/18 12:10:01 AM
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People only care about Octopath because there's a shortage of normal JRPGs and it's a Switch exclusive

If it were anywhere else it be a hard 6/10
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/01/18 12:10:12 AM
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But those metrics don't really reflect that.

BOTW Metacritic is 9.7, with a user score of 8.5.

... so, Octopath is below both of those games, and lots of people who are enjoying it will freely admit to its shortcomings.

I realize you're just trolling, but I want to show people who don't think you're trolling how wrong they are. There is a very vocal fanbase who talks up Octopath a lot, but they would 100% agree it is not the best JRPG of all time, nor does it belong in that conversation.
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soulunison2
08/01/18 12:11:29 AM
#28:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
People only care about Octopath because there's a shortage of normal JRPGs and it's a Switch exclusive

If it were anywhere else it be a hard 6/10


See this is a proper explaination

Lmao a call back to old school JRPGs foh
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Darmik
08/01/18 1:07:23 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
People only care about Octopath because there's a shortage of normal JRPGs and it's a Switch exclusive

If it were anywhere else it be a hard 6/10


Weird how this wasn't the case for I Am Setsuna. Which seems to be a significantly worse game.
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Tyranthraxus
08/01/18 1:08:25 AM
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Darmik posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
People only care about Octopath because there's a shortage of normal JRPGs and it's a Switch exclusive

If it were anywhere else it be a hard 6/10


Weird how this wasn't the case for I Am Setsuna. Which seems to be a significantly worse game.

Not exclusive.
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Darmik
08/01/18 1:11:37 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Darmik posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
People only care about Octopath because there's a shortage of normal JRPGs and it's a Switch exclusive

If it were anywhere else it be a hard 6/10


Weird how this wasn't the case for I Am Setsuna. Which seems to be a significantly worse game.

Not exclusive.


I know. According to his logic Octopath would be a 6/10 on other consoles but yet I Am Setsuna managed a 75 and was multiplat. I haven't heard anyone say that's the better game.
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Tyranthraxus
08/01/18 1:13:30 AM
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Darmik posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Darmik posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
People only care about Octopath because there's a shortage of normal JRPGs and it's a Switch exclusive

If it were anywhere else it be a hard 6/10


Weird how this wasn't the case for I Am Setsuna. Which seems to be a significantly worse game.

Not exclusive.


I know. According to his logic Octopath would be a 6/10 on other consoles but yet I Am Setsuna managed a 75 and was multiplat. I haven't heard anyone say that's the better game.

Oh sorry misunderstood what you were going for. Carry on.
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HagenEx
08/01/18 1:16:13 AM
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OT is basically Undertale 2.0.

A huge hit for like 3 months, then everyone will forget about it.

Literally one of the most basic JRPGs to ever exist. It's fun, yes, but that's it. There's no substance to the plot, the characters are awful and the overall balance of the game is poorly thought out.

It's like a less buggy Suikoden II without the interesting political plot.
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Doe
08/01/18 1:16:37 AM
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BotW has blown other open world games out of the fucking water.

Octopath Traveler is fun but suffers from poor story and questionable design choices.
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Doe
08/01/18 1:17:25 AM
#35:


HagenEx posted...
OT is basically Undertale 2.0.

Undertale was GOTY 2015
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Darmik
08/01/18 1:18:55 AM
#36:


HagenEx posted...
OT is basically Undertale 2.0.

A huge hit for like 3 months, then everyone will forget about it.

Literally one of the most basic JRPGs to ever exist. It's fun, yes, but that's it. There's no substance to the plot, the characters are awful and the overall balance of the game is poorly thought out.

It's like a less buggy Suikoden II without the interesting political plot.


Undertale is releasing on Switch this month and I'm gonna guess it will still review better than Octopath did lol
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Darksaber310
08/01/18 1:21:32 AM
#37:


I mean, I know we're used to stupid cliched crap and unimaginative storylines, but jesus this is not the hill to die on proclaiming the second coming. I'd play through Crono Trigger a 532nd time over this thing twice. Since when did an abysmal story... in a RPG of all things not bring the average down 3 points at least?
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HagenEx
08/01/18 1:23:05 AM
#38:


Doe posted...
HagenEx posted...
OT is basically Undertale 2.0.

Undertale was GOTY 2015


Three years later, it averages about 120 daily viewers on twitch.

A game that peaked at almost 100 thousand during release month.

Nobody talks about the game, all boards are dead, and despite what most people claimed back then, it wasn't a genre defining game in the long run.

Same thing will happen with Octopath. By January, nobody will be talking about this game, and everyone will be riding that sweet Dragon Quest Bandwagon.
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soulunison2
08/01/18 1:23:26 AM
#39:


Doe posted...
BotW has blown other open world games out of the fucking water.

Octopath Traveler is fun but suffers from poor story and questionable design choices.


There are better open world games than botw
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Tyranthraxus
08/01/18 1:24:22 AM
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soulunison2 posted...
Doe posted...
BotW has blown other open world games out of the fucking water.

Octopath Traveler is fun but suffers from poor story and questionable design choices.


There are better open world games than botw

Probably, but not many.
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soulunison2
08/01/18 1:25:06 AM
#41:


Tyranthraxus posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Doe posted...
BotW has blown other open world games out of the fucking water.

Octopath Traveler is fun but suffers from poor story and questionable design choices.


There are better open world games than botw

Probably, but not many.


True true

Still doesnt deserve all its praise
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Second_Chances
08/01/18 1:25:44 AM
#42:


I was thinking of picking up Octopath today but I decided to buy a new copy of 4 Heroes of Light instead
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Tyranthraxus
08/01/18 1:26:59 AM
#43:


soulunison2 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Doe posted...
BotW has blown other open world games out of the fucking water.

Octopath Traveler is fun but suffers from poor story and questionable design choices.


There are better open world games than botw

Probably, but not many.


True true

Still doesnt deserve all its praise

Nothing in all history deserves all it's praise and more common still are games that deserve more praise than they got.
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Darmik
08/01/18 1:28:49 AM
#44:


HagenEx posted...
Doe posted...
HagenEx posted...
OT is basically Undertale 2.0.

Undertale was GOTY 2015


Three years later, it averages about 120 daily viewers on twitch.

A game that peaked at almost 100 thousand during release month.

Nobody talks about the game, all boards are dead, and despite what most people claimed back then, it wasn't a genre defining game in the long run.

Same thing will happen with Octopath. By January, nobody will be talking about this game, and everyone will be riding that sweet Dragon Quest Bandwagon.


Why on earth would people watch a livestream of Undertale 3 years later? It's a linear, short game that costs like 10 bucks to play. How many games like this are talked about significantly years later?

When Toby Fox announces his new thing there will be a lot of buzz. That's how the game media generally works.
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REMercsChamp
08/01/18 9:27:48 AM
#45:


Octopath Traveler is HORRENDOUS
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