Board 8 > Survivor/BB/TAR Summer Topic 2 - .H@CKER//

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This is a pretty weak Zingbot segment.
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Brett's strategy in that comp was great.
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Yeah, I may dislike Brett, but that wasn't a bad strategy. Discourage people from checking a room by filling it with crap. Granted, Tyler ALMOST realized that it was a trap, but even he wasn't gonna waste time like that.
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I love Sam. She's not a polished person, but goddamn I appreciate the hare-brained shit she tries to pull off.
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Oh nice we aren't even getting the veto meeting tonight. I guess that's some suspense for those of us only watching the edit.
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Underleveled posted...

I guess that's some suspense for those of us only watching the edit.

I feel like this is a spoiler >.>

note that I dont know veto ceremony results
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i thought zingbot had some good ones. stuff like KC and Angela were weak but I liked Haleigh's and JC's
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also really leaning into psycho sam
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It's a fairly fair edit for Sam, but I feel like they're not doing Crazy Sam justice by not showing how emotionally unstable she's been. Like they're just poking fun at the funny aspects of her character, but completely ignoring how much the house is affecting her head.
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Oh yeah, and it's weird they left out the part of Sam's conversation where she told Faysal what he'd get out of it. The big incentive she was offering him to get rid of his closest ally is... she would quit smoking.

(not really a spoiler)
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GTM posted...

i thought zingbot had some good ones. stuff like KC and Angela were weak but I liked Haleigh's and JC's

Angela's was the best because it's probably the first time she's ever been told the truth about herself.
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Underleveled posted...

GTM posted...

i thought zingbot had some good ones. stuff like KC and Angela were weak but I liked Haleigh's and JC's

Angela's was the best because it's probably the first time she's ever been told the truth about herself.

Idk, she seems pretty down the earth with the fact that she is cold blooded.

Sam being told is crazy was pretty great!
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GTM has a lot backwards - he did a better job with the girls this year by far. Zing rankings...

1. Sam
2. Angela
3. Kaycee
4. Scottie
5. Haleigh
6. JC
7. Fessy
8. Tyler
9. Brett

Sam's was accurate, plus it had the F-bomb for maximum effect - plus the recency (as opposed to her turning into a robot back then). Angela's was honest, brutal, and necessary - all while delivering it humorously. Kaycee's mocked her catchphrase and emphasized how boring she is. Scottie's was the good ol' bait-and-switch done effectively. And Haleigh's was a good way to get the message to the idiots in that alliance.. even if it's too late.

They could have done better things with JC than the back hair. Fessy's was needed but only half-funny. Tyler's didn't really fit and they had other things they could've gotten him for. Brett's was just... bleh.

I think part of why we feel Zingbot is "weak" nowadays is because we remember when it felt fresh. Casuals don't.
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Brett being called a douche was one of the best ones.
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KujikawaRising posted...

Haleigh's was a good way to get the message to the idiots in that alliance.. even if it's too late

Except that her disastrous HoH week wasn't the fault of her or anyone in her alliance. Just because of a twist that screwed them two weeks in a row.

I also didn't even realize Kaycee HAD a catchphrase, let alone enough screen time for it to catch on.

Brett being called a douche was another good one.

Fessy was a missed opportunity. Should have said hope you dont teach how to play BB or something like that.
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I like snark more than hard truths in my zings. I liked sam's cause of the reaction, not the zing itself.
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Like brett being called a douche is truthiness, but it wasn't really clever joke writing.
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Underleveled posted...

Except that her disastrous HoH week wasn't the fault of her or anyone in her alliance. Just because of a twist that screwed them two weeks in a row.

The H@CK3R twist was the only disruption that was beyond their control. The way they threw the Veto to Tyler for no reason, presumed they had Brett despite evidence indicating otherwise, and just accepted the twist for what it was instead of plotting a way around it was really terrible gameplay that they could have controlled.

The Veto was the biggest thing - if Rockstar had won that Veto and not Tyler, Angela or Kaycee would've walked out the door. But... she threw it to him. For no reason. Stupid.

I also didn't even realize Kaycee HAD a catchphrase, let alone enough screen time for it to catch on.

Yep, "Let's go" is her catchphrase. It's a funny zing if you know about it.

Brett being called a douche was a little too basic and obvious for me, I guess...
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While Brett being called a Douche I think it was just a little lazy. So I wouldn't put it last I put it above both JC, Tyler, and probably Haleigh because her's wasn't THAT accurate.
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KujikawaRising posted...

Underleveled posted...

Except that her disastrous HoH week wasn't the fault of her or anyone in her alliance. Just because of a twist that screwed them two weeks in a row.

The H@CK3R twist was the only disruption that was beyond their control. The way they threw the Veto to Tyler for no reason, presumed they had Brett despite evidence indicating otherwise, and just accepted the twist for what it was instead of plotting a way around it was really terrible gameplay that they could have controlled.

The Veto was the biggest thing - if Rockstar had won that Veto and not Tyler, Angela or Kaycee would've walked out the door. But... she threw it to him. For no reason. Stupid

No, the Hacker twist was the biggest thing - if it weren't for that then it wouldn't have mattered who won Veto because Brett was still a replacement option.

The ONLY thing that could have messed it up at that point was Brett winning Veto, and he didn't play.

I'd also like to know what your definition of "throwing" is. Because she was absolutely trying to win that comp. She just fucked up badly. Twice. It was a pathetic performance but it was not throwing.
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Key word: "Twice." I should have said inadvertently. Because it wasn't intentional - but she did throw it to Tyler whether she liked it or not and she'll beat herself up over it for a long time. For a bigot like Rockstar, that's quite nice to see.
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Rockstar isnt a bigot.
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Espeon posted...

Rockstar isnt a bigot.

Yes she is. Very judgmental based on sex and race. Extremely hateful and full of negativity. A truly repulsive individual.
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KujikawaRising posted...

Espeon posted...

Rockstar isnt a bigot.

Yes she is. Very judgmental based on sex and race. Extremely hateful and full of negativity. A truly repulsive individual.

Shes not incorrect in her judgments though. That doesnt make her a bigot, it just means shes doling out uncomfortable truths.
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Espeon posted...

Shes not incorrect in her judgments though. That doesnt make her a bigot, it just means shes doling out uncomfortable truths.

She was incorrect and so are you. Brett isn't privileged. Angela had to overcome a lot of adversity to get where she is today. Neither is a spoiled brat the way Rockstar is.

She is 100% a bigot because instead of playing the social game, she was judgmental, racist, sexist, venomous, and downright deplorable. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this.
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I don't really like to use the word toxic, but Rockstar was absolutely the most toxic person on the cast this season. She was the most negative and talked way more trash about people behind their backs than anyone else.
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KujikawaRising posted...

Espeon posted...

Shes not incorrect in her judgments though. That doesnt make her a bigot, it just means shes doling out uncomfortable truths.

She was incorrect and so are you. Brett isn't privileged. Angela had to overcome a lot of adversity to get where she is today. Neither is a spoiled brat the way Rockstar is.

She is 100% a bigot because instead of playing the social game, she was judgmental, racist, sexist, venomous, and downright deplorable. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this.

Dude, that whole alliance is privileged and entitled as HELL. Even if you take race and gender out of the equation (which, statistically speaking, Rockstar isnt wrong about who finds the most success in Big Brother and in, you know, REAL LIFE) look at the difference between Tyler and Scottie in this season.

Tyler has not once voted FOUTTEs way, and has openly betrayed them on multiple occasions, yet despite being openly called out as part of an alliance, Failey have opted to align themselves with him and Angela. Meanwhile, Scottie has, aside from the Swaggy vote, stuck with them round after round, and is the only person on their side of the house to have a mostly successful HoH week. Yet this week, Failey targets Scottie and costs themselves a number.

You cannot tell me with a straight face that if Tyler looked like Scottie and Scottie looked like Tyler, Tyler would still be universally trusted and Scottie would be thrown under the bus as a schemer at every opportunity. For fucks sake, week ONE, Scotties primary ally got evicted because someone flipped their vote. The fact that there was legitimate consideration of whether or not he flipped (BEFORE the Swaggy incident) speaks VOLUMES about societal biases. Same goes for any discussion that Rockstar flipped to keep her biggest rival in the house the week Rachel left.
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Vis, that has nothing to do with looks a lot more about the way they play the game. Fessy is targeting Scottie for voting out swaggy in Swaggy C stuff and because he has a crush on Haleigh. And I dont think it has anything to do with his looks week 1 and more than his allies are dumbasses.

You look WAAAY too into that stuff.
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FOUTTE is dumb, yes. I realized as I was finishing my lap that I forgot to include that. But seriously, it just feels so convenient that the two most unattractive players this season have also been singled out as untrustworthy on several occasions, despite LEGITIMATE and recorded shadiness from others.
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I miss peridiam
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I mean it is human nature for a bunch of twenty year olds to focus on the most attractive people but on the same front but more importantly Tyler has been extremely good at covering his tracks as opposed to Scottie. The one time where scottie was able to call someone else for lying he sat there and said "cute. You guys are cute" instead of actually sticking up for himself. It's his lack of life experience. I know you've only watched the edits but he also admits to having feelings for Haleigh and it has really hurt his focus in the game.
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Im not denying that theres a stark difference in gameplay. Im just saying that Tyler being an attractive young guy means hes under less scrutiny than Someone less attractive, like Scottie. Hell, compare Scottie to Brett. Scottie did ONE shady thing week two, whereas Brett openly called out FOUTTE on two eviction nights and was one vote from getting evicted each time. Yet this week, both were considered equally shady by Faysal. Is there stupidity involved? Of course there is. And theres a disparity in charisma as well. But I guarantee if appearances were reversed, this week would be MUCH more different.
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Eh. I'm not so sure because Brett is a smoother talker than Scottie too. I dont think it is impossible but i'm not sold.
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I'm just gonna throw this out there - in his intro segment, Brett says that he doesn't hang out with his co-workers because he assumes anyone who works in cyber security (besides him) is a mouth-breathing DnD virgin. And all summer the two people who he has treated the worst are Rockstar and Scottie, the two weirdest and arguably nerdiest people in the house.

That's just one person but saying it doesn't make a difference is kidding yourself.
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scottie and brett actually have a really good non-game related relationship

i laugh more listening to those two than i do with any other pairing/group in the house
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It is also worth noting that Brett said on the feeds that he is a showman first and will say just about anything to get a laugh for the viewers
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eaedwards6400 posted...

It is also worth noting that Brett said on the feeds that he is a showman first and will say just about anything to get a laugh for the viewers

Well I could have told you that without watching the feeds.
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Oh of course but he admitted it and I think that can be associated to his comments about his coworkers
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considering Brett lied about his job and is actually in sales, im going to go with he lied about other things during his intro vid
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leafer 21 posted...

considering Brett lied about his job and is actually in sales

Wait wut
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He's lying in the house about being in sales?

Also, that was a good look by L6 in comforting her.
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he actually sells computer software, he isnt whatever he said he does in his intro vid.

Haleigh is getting a golden edit woof
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Tyler really starting to over play.
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It is nice to know how Tyler is feeling with all of his allies
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leafer 21 posted...

he actually sells computer software, he isnt whatever he said he does in his intro vid.

Haleigh is getting a golden edit woof

How do you know that?
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Dang it, Scottie
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Well you Rockstar lovers. You have the smallest chance for her to be back!
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I don't even care. This season is slowly turning into BB16, and Rockstar returning would just be delaying the inevitable like Nicole's return did.
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I miss peridiam

Are you on Twitter? pls @ me
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