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GoogleNews 08/05/18 11:57:44 AM #1:	https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/05/this-major-mueller-court-victory-means-trump-is-doomed.html This Major Mueller Court Victory Means Trump is Doomed Special Counsel Robert Mueller just obtained a major court ruling that destroyed any chance Donald Trump ever had of getting his case thrown out. Many people in Trumps camp have argued that Mueller doesnt have the legal authority under the U.S. Constitution to go after the president. That argument has now gone down in flames. Federal Chief Judge Beryl Howell just issued a long 92 page ruling spelling out Muellers legal authority in detail which essentially means that nobody else is going to be able to challenge that authority. Shes a Chief Judge, so this sets a strong legal precedent that will be followed in subsequent cases. The specific case in question concerned the grand jury testimony of Roger Stone associate Andrew Miller, and whether he could be forced to testify. Over the course of her 92 page analysis Howell strongly rejected an attempt by Miller to quash a subpoena to testify before the grand jury. This may hurt Stone and Trump, but more importantly it sets forth the detailed legal explanation for why the scope of the Special Counsels power falls well within the boundaries the Constitution permits. In other words: Muellers power is valid under the U.S. Constitution, so dont try to challenge it. Millers lawyers had argued that Mueller is a principal officer who was unconstitutionally appointed since he was not nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Chief Judge Howell found Millers claim without merit because of the Supreme Courts decision in Morrison v. Olson, which upheld the constitutionality of provisions of a federal statute creating an independent counsel. There also are subsequent court decisions saying the same thing. Howells ruling holds that Mueller is legally considered to be an inferior officer under the supervision of deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, and thus did not need to be nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Mr. Muellers appointment, without presidential appointment and senatorial confirmation, did not violate the Appointments Clause, Howell wrote in her opinion. The importance of this ruling cannot be overstated. It takes away the last vestiges of hope that Manafort, Stone, Trump or anyone else who may be charged by the special counsel had that their cases might be thrown out. Mueller has huge amounts of evidence to support his indictments so the only real legal defense the defendants have ever had is to get their cases thrown out on the grounds that the special counsels probe was not legitimate. Manafort tried this several times and all of his motions were rejected, which means hes very likely to be convicted. By forcing Andrew Miller to testify before the grand jury Mueller has made his legal position rock solid, and he has weakened the legal positions of Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort and all of their underlings. Mueller just scored a huge legal victory during a grand jury proceeding but it has a much bigger impact. This ruling will help him ultimately take Trump down because Donald Trump and his lawyers are going to try to use the same defense strategy that Manafort and Miller did. When its Trumps time to be charged his lawyers will certainly try to argue against Robert Muellers legal authority and try to get the case thrown out. But, after a Chief Judge solidified and clarified Muellers legal authority in a ninety-two page ruling, they have no chance of being successful. This may have seemed like a minor ruling but in fact it is the type of ruling that could ultimately bring Donald Trump down. --- https://news.google.com/ <cite>GoogleNews posted [p:906305096] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/05/this-major-mueller-court-victory-means-trump-is-doomed.html <quote><cite>This Major Mueller Court Victory Means Trump is Doomed</cite> Special Counsel Robert Mueller just obtained a major court ruling that destroyed any chance Donald Trump ever had of getting his case thrown out. Many people in Trumps camp have argued that Mueller doesnt have the legal authority under the U.S. Constitution to go after the president. That argument has now gone down in flames. Federal Chief Judge Beryl Howell just issued a long 92 page ruling spelling out Muellers legal authority in detail which essentially means that nobody else is going to be able to challenge that authority. Shes a Chief Judge, so this sets a strong legal precedent that will be followed in subsequent cases. The specific case in question concerned the grand jury testimony of Roger Stone associate Andrew Miller, and whether he could be forced to testify. Over the course of her 92 page analysis Howell strongly rejected an attempt by Miller to quash a subpoena to testify before the grand jury. This may hurt Stone and Trump, but more importantly it sets forth the detailed legal explanation for why the scope of the Special Counsels power falls well within the boundaries the Constitution permits. In other words: Muellers power is valid under the U.S. Constitution, so dont try to challenge it. Millers lawyers had argued that Mueller is a principal officer who was unconstitutionally appointed since he was not nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Chief Judge Howell found Millers claim without merit because of the Supreme Courts decision in Morrison v. Olson, which upheld the constitutionality of provisions of a federal statute creating an independent counsel. There also are subsequent court decisions saying the same thing. Howells ruling holds that Mueller is legally considered to be an inferior officer under the supervision of deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, and thus did not need to be nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Mr. Muellers appointment, without presidential appointment and senatorial confirmation, did not violate the Appointments Clause, Howell wrote in her opinion. The importance of this ruling cannot be overstated. It takes away the last vestiges of hope that Manafort, Stone, Trump or anyone else who may be charged by the special counsel had that their cases might be thrown out. Mueller has huge amounts of evidence to support his indictments so the only real legal defense the defendants have ever had is to get their cases thrown out on the grounds that the special counsels probe was not legitimate. Manafort tried this several times and all of his motions were rejected, which means hes very likely to be convicted. By forcing Andrew Miller to testify before the grand jury Mueller has made his legal position rock solid, and he has weakened the legal positions of Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort and all of their underlings. Mueller just scored a huge legal victory during a grand jury proceeding but it has a much bigger impact. This ruling will help him ultimately take Trump down because Donald Trump and his lawyers are going to try to use the same defense strategy that Manafort and Miller did. When its Trumps time to be charged his lawyers will certainly try to argue against Robert Muellers legal authority and try to get the case thrown out. But, after a Chief Judge solidified and clarified Muellers legal authority in a ninety-two page ruling, they have no chance of being successful. This may have seemed like a minor ruling but in fact it is the type of ruling that could ultimately bring Donald Trump down.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 08/05/18 11:58:33 AM #2:	judicial activism! --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:906305133] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>judicial activism!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 08/05/18 12:00:52 PM #3:	This is actually rather big. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:906305217] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>This is actually rather big.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/05/18 12:04:17 PM #4:	Trump needs to fire Mueller and shut the investigation down now!!!!! --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:906305350] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>Trump needs to fire Mueller and shut the investigation down now!!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 08/05/18 12:05:56 PM #5:	Big news, shitty source not withstanding. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire <cite>bover_87 posted [p:906305420] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>Big news, shitty source not withstanding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/05/18 12:06:17 PM #6:	Nobody's heard of appeals, huh? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906305441] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>Nobody's heard of appeals, huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCyborgNinja 08/05/18 12:22:12 PM #8:	Ex-Kefiroth posted... The Supreme Court will ultimately have the final say, and they don't give a shit about precedent. Any challenge before SCOTUS is going to be five-four'd in favor of Trump. That was my first thought. The whole government is an embarrassment. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:906306043] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ex-Kefiroth posted...</cite> <quote>The Supreme Court will ultimately have the final say, and they don't give a shit about precedent. Any challenge before SCOTUS is going to be five-four'd in favor of Trump.</quote> That was my first thought. The whole government is an embarrassment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 08/05/18 12:25:27 PM #9:	Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow that by the time he's done Trump will already be out of office. And even if Trump gets impeached, think about what the result would be. Do you really want Pence in charge? --- Currently playing: BioShock 2 (x360), Monster Hunter World (xbone), H1Z1 (ps4) <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:906306177] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow that by the time he's done Trump will already be out of office. And even if Trump gets impeached, think about what the result would be. Do you really want Pence in charge?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 08/05/18 12:26:09 PM #10:	Ex-Kefiroth posted... The Supreme Court will ultimately have the final say, and they don't give a shit about precedent. Any challenge before SCOTUS is going to be five-four'd in favor of Trump. I don't think it's a slam dunk: Roberts is the kind of craven opportunist who would side with the liberals if he thought Trump was doomed anyway. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:906306216] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ex-Kefiroth posted...</cite> <quote>The Supreme Court will ultimately have the final say, and they don't give a shit about precedent. Any challenge before SCOTUS is going to be five-four'd in favor of Trump.</quote> I don't think it's a slam dunk: Roberts is the kind of craven opportunist who would side with the liberals if he thought Trump was doomed anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 08/05/18 12:32:15 PM #11:	Trump is finished --- http://darkvisionsofterror.bandcamp.com/ https://imgur.com/e7sCCSb http://i.imgtc.com/AlmbdTG49T.jpg <cite>VTBM posted [p:906306481] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>Trump is finished</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 08/05/18 12:35:45 PM #12:	SauI_Goodman posted... Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others <cite>BWLurker posted [p:906306656] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow</quote> Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 08/05/18 12:43:58 PM #13:	BWLurker posted... SauI_Goodman posted... Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others Bruh, we're 2 and a half years in. --- Currently playing: BioShock 2 (x360), Monster Hunter World (xbone), H1Z1 (ps4) <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:906307032] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow</quote> Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others</quote> Bruh, we're 2 and a half years in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 08/05/18 12:46:32 PM #14:	SauI_Goodman posted... BWLurker posted... SauI_Goodman posted... Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others Bruh, we're 2 and a half years in. Not into Muellers we're not. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:906307149] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow</quote> Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others</quote> Bruh, we're 2 and a half years in.</quote> Not into Muellers we're not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/05/18 12:50:44 PM #15:	SauI_Goodman posted... BWLurker posted... SauI_Goodman posted... Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others Bruh, we're 2 and a half years in. May 2017 to now is barely over a year. Watergate took 2 <cite>Axiom posted [p:906307353] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow</quote> Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others</quote> Bruh, we're 2 and a half years in.</quote> May 2017 to now is barely over a year. Watergate took 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 08/05/18 12:54:08 PM #16:	lolll --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:906307525] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>lolll</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 08/05/18 12:57:18 PM #17:	SauI_Goodman posted... BWLurker posted... SauI_Goodman posted... Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others Bruh, we're 2 and a half years in. Derp --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:906307666] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow</quote> Uh, no he's not. Look at the time line of this investigation compared with others</quote> Bruh, we're 2 and a half years in.</quote> Derp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 08/05/18 1:33:30 PM #18:	This is why Trump wants Kavanaugh so much --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:906309344] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>This is why Trump wants Kavanaugh so much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim Kusanagi 08/05/18 1:39:24 PM #19:	SauI_Goodman posted... Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow that by the time he's done Trump will already be out of office. And even if Trump gets impeached, think about what the result would be. Do you really want Pence in charge? Yes --- Live to train. Train to fight. Fight to live. When you retire, think only on fighting. Take me away, I don't mind, but you better promise I'll be back in time! <cite>Kim Kusanagi posted [p:906309634] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow that by the time he's done Trump will already be out of office. And even if Trump gets impeached, think about what the result would be. Do you really want Pence in charge?</quote> Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 08/05/18 1:40:45 PM #20:	#MAGAtrain Trump will be fine baby! We just cant stop winning! --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:906309709] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>#MAGAtrain Trump will be fine baby! We just cant stop winning!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/05/18 1:40:54 PM #21:	Any day now kids! --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:906309717] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>Any day now kids!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 08/05/18 1:42:55 PM #22:	iPhone_7 posted... Trump needs to fire Mueller and shut the investigation down now!!!!! --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:906309806] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Trump needs to fire Mueller and shut the investigation down now!!!!!</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Bungle- 08/05/18 1:49:17 PM #23:	VTBM posted... Trump is finished lol --- In the morning I will see - What you were trying to say to me. As I respond into the sink - Need not again hear myself think! <cite>-Bungle- posted [p:906310152] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>VTBM posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is finished</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 08/05/18 1:53:12 PM #24:	We got em now. --- If liberals didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have standards at all. <cite>muchdran posted [p:906310384] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>We got em now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YodaCrackers 08/05/18 1:55:13 PM #25:	Trump is Doomed Vol. XLVII: No seriously guys this time its for real <cite>YodaCrackers posted [p:906310494] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote>Trump is Doomed Vol. XLVII: No seriously guys this time its for real</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow Don 08/05/18 1:56:33 PM #26:	SauI_Goodman posted... Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow that by the time he's done Trump will already be out of office. And even if Trump gets impeached, think about what the result would be. Do you really want Pence in charge? Over Trump? Yes. Pence is just a shitty republican that will be gone in a few years worst case scenario, he isn't a wannabe dictator trying to destroy our country at the whim of an enemy state. --- sigless user <cite>Shadow Don posted [p:906310569] in This Major... [t:76872722]...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, Mueller is going at a rate so slow that by the time he's done Trump will already be out of office. And even if Trump gets impeached, think about what the result would be. Do you really want Pence in charge?</quote> Over Trump? Yes. Pence is just a shitty republican that will be gone in a few years worst case scenario, he isn't a wannabe dictator trying to destroy our country at the whim of an enemy state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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