Current Events > Trump's progress compared to Obama's progress

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Bonus points to anybody who can tell me what the moon in the upper right corner of my screen is.
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Just lol.
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4.1% is not a GDP
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This is kinda disingenuous, though.
Obama inherited an economic shitshow, while Trump came into a slow vague recovery.

Do not disturb?
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Questionmarktarius posted...

This is kinda disingenuous, though.
Obama inherited an economic shitshow, while Trump came into a slow vague recovery.

Obama got a shitty economy and then made it 100x worse. Trump has overcome the obstacles created by the mutinous and treasonous obama administration and made America great again.
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Any truth to that at all?
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creativerealms posted...

Any truth to that at all?

All of it.
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Antifar posted...

4.1% is not a GDP

It is to people who dont have any idea what theyre talking about.
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Damn, Obama sucked
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That unemployment rate is gonna skyrocket once the full brunt of tariffs are felt in the next few years
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why did you block out your profile pic

i want to see what you look like
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southcoast09 posted...

creativerealms posted...

Any truth to that at all?

All of it.

None of it.
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White man takes credit for black man's accomplishments.
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southcoast09 posted...

Obama got a shitty economy and then made it 100x worse.

No. It just sort of lumbered along, then Obamacare fucked everything up, then it lumbered some more.

A better comparison would be comparing Reagan's turnaround from Carter, to Trump's turnaround from Carter Jr.

southcoast09 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

This is kinda disingenuous, though.
Obama inherited an economic shitshow, while Trump came into a slow vague recovery.

Obama got a shitty economy and then made it 100x worse. Trump has overcome the obstacles created by the mutinous and treasonous obama administration and made America great again.

Lol. No Obama fixed the economy. He did all the hard work and Trump is reaping the benifits.
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Antifar posted...

4.1% is not a GDP

I think they mean 4.1% increase for the year, which seems alright. As long as it's not negative, the economy should be doing well >_>
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1) Obama stepped into office with a $1.4 trillion dollar defecit
2) The defecit was ~600 million when Obama left office
3) Obama stepped into office with a huge recession going on
4) Trump stepped into office with a growing economy

https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-budget-deficit-3305783

The U.S. federal budget deficit for fiscal year 2019 is $985 billion. FY 2019 covers October 1, 2018 through September 30, 2019. The deficit occurs because the U.S. government spending of $4.407 trillion is higher than its revenue of $3.422 trillion.

https://www.thebalance.com/fy-2018-trump-federal-budget-request-4158794

The fiscal year 2018 federal budget outlines U.S. government revenue and spending from October 1, 2017 through September 30, 2018. The budget process began when President Trump submitted his budget. In January 2018, Congress enacted a bill to guide spending for the next two years. On March 23, 2018, it passed the Omnibus Spending Bill that outlined appropriations for specific departments.

The Office of Management and Budget estimates that revenue will be $3.340 trillion.

That's less than the planned spending of $4.173 trillion. It will create a $833 billion budget deficit.

US Budget defecit by year:

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html


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Questionmarktarius posted...

This is kinda disingenuous, though.
Obama inherited an economic shitshow, while Trump came into a slow vague recovery.

A trump shill being disingenuous? Say it ain't so.
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NeonOctopus posted...

I think they mean 4.1% increase for the year, which seems alright.

The 4.1% increase is quarterly, though
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oh >_>
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CableZL posted...

US Budget defecit by year:

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

We need a balanced budget amendment, dammit.

Look at this.

https://historyinpieces.com/research/us-unemployment-rates-president

It shows modern unemployment rates by president. Notice Obamas? That high unemployment rate is when he got into office and then steadily dropped. So while Trump using that 9+ unemployment rate is accurate it is also disingenuous. He is using the biggest rate rather then the lowest or average rate. Really the rates are still dropping and have been for years.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

CableZL posted...

US Budget defecit by year:

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

We need a balanced budget amendment, dammit.

Looks to me like when we are at war we spend more. What was at it's height when Obama was president? A war someone else started.
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creativerealms posted...

What was at it's height when Obama was president? A war someone else started.

What? No.
Two wars.

i thought everything ol' Trumpy has done so far has _increased_ the deficit?
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Questionmarktarius posted...

creativerealms posted...

What was at it's height when Obama was president? A war someone else started.

What? No.
Two wars.

Well Obama started the Syria conflict himself. The man was far from innocent. Still wars are expensive.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

i thought everything ol' Trumpy has done so far has _increased_ the deficit?

Not yet. Consequences take time.
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creativerealms posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

i thought everything ol' Trumpy has done so far has _increased_ the deficit?

Not yet. Consequences take time.

The massive tax cut for the wealthy has a pretty immediate effect on the deficit.
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I will never understand why people think if you just say you're winning and succeeding, then you are.

It's such a strange mindset.

I wonder if you just walked up to people and said "You're going to give me your money." how many people just would...
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creativerealms posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

i thought everything ol' Trumpy has done so far has _increased_ the deficit?

Not yet. Consequences take time.

but according to

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

it was higher in 2017 than it was in 2016.
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This is the most Southcoast topic ever, yet people still post serious responses.
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mustachedmystic posted...

This is the most Southcoast topic ever, yet people still post serious responses.

Nah that was the other day when he applauded Saudi Arabias human rights violations because theyre sovereign and not giving in to Canadas demands that they dont jail people who dissent
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I will never understand why people think if you just say you're winning and succeeding, then you are.

It's such a strange mindset.

I wonder if you just walked up to people and said "You're going to give me your money." how many people just would...

Really it shouldn't be a competition. Both democrats and republicans are doing what they think is best of this country. I don't like Trump's us versus them approach with making the democrats the bad guys. Even if you think they are going about it the wrong way they are trying to help our country too. It's all a game to Trump when politics shouldn't be a game.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I will never understand why people think if you just say you're winning and succeeding, then you are.

It's such a strange mindset.

I wonder if you just walked up to people and said "You're going to give me your money." how many people just would...

Seems to work out pretty well for churches.
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Antifar posted...

NeonOctopus posted...

I think they mean 4.1% increase for the year, which seems alright.

The 4.1% increase is quarterly, though

It is, but its also a 'well if things continue like this for the rest of the year, its gonna be this'

but, a deeper dive also shows a lot of companies buying American products in anticipation of tariffs, so it'll drop once they stop buying
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Parappa09 posted...

why did you block out your profile pic

i want to see what you look like

Ive posted a picture before, but the thumbnail picture was really small
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