Board 8 > Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On

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I think this reads like a town VS town fight because I can understand both perspectives fully.

Well, for the most part. You're both leaving out the few little things that make the other likely town such as leo bust and derp confirm.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I think Puns is being perfectly reasonable, whether the choice to kill you before Death or another player is a good one or not. Is your case against Puns entirely built off his post today listing you as a future lynch?

He's trying to do exactly what Scare did: Pass me off as tomorrow's lunch without a justifiable reason for doing it.

It reeks of the desperation scum would have for mislynch right now. It's pretty clear scum has been trying to go after me for days, yet now that I've nailed scum to the wall us when puns is coming after me? It doesn't give as town motivated.

I've been paranoid of him since the beginning, since he screwed around with the millers. Han and Zach were both on that team, too.

I want to believe these reactions are real frustration, it's just the immediate jump to calling for Puns' lynch makes me feel like you just really really really don't want to die. But I guess that is also partly your argument against him. Do you think scum Puns did that to Leo to make himself look better?

Do remember that without the Lawyer from FD, Leo lives the day, and Leo had started showing "fight" again at the end. He could've potentially survived.

Of course, who did he primarily shade at that point? Me. Not Puns. Then I beat him back into the ground.

Every single scum member except for Alakazam has tried to nudge town into lynching me. Puns just followed in their footsteps.

He's just like Scare, he has no reason to be considered as town cleared as he is.

Although I did tell you I'd go back and read it, which I did, and I summed up my thoughts about it for you, since you were being so insistent.

Actually it was right after I told you I was about to look over it when you got mad and left.

benjamin3740 posted...

I think this reads like a town VS town fight because I can understand both perspectives fully.

Well, for the most part. You're both leaving out the few little things that make the other likely town such as leo bust and derp confirm.

I wanted to believe he was potentially just being dumb town until he tried to argue that being the one to catch Scare made me scum.

It's the absolute last thing I would ever do as scum there. Pointing the finger at Scare with that much force would have been the worst scumplay possible.

Everyone is fine with a Ben lynch. If I'm scum there is zero motivation for me to not just push that narrative.

You both going to look very silly after I flip

When I flip do lunch ben though
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To the point where I actually take it as an insult to be accused of bussing him there when it was the worst play possible.

That's probably what really makes me mad.

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I think Puns is being perfectly reasonable, whether the choice to kill you before Death or another player is a good one or not. Is your case against Puns entirely built off his post today listing you as a future lynch?

He's trying to do exactly what Scare did: Pass me off as tomorrow's lunch without a justifiable reason for doing it.

It reeks of the desperation scum would have for mislynch right now. It's pretty clear scum has been trying to go after me for days, yet now that I've nailed scum to the wall us when puns is coming after me? It doesn't give as town motivated.

I've been paranoid of him since the beginning, since he screwed around with the millers. Han and Zach were both on that team, too.

I want to believe these reactions are real frustration, it's just the immediate jump to calling for Puns' lynch makes me feel like you just really really really don't want to die. But I guess that is also partly your argument against him. Do you think scum Puns did that to Leo to make himself look better?

Do remember that without the Lawyer from FD, Leo lives the day, and Leo had started showing "fight" again at the end. He could've potentially survived.

Of course, who did he primarily shade at that point? Me. Not Puns. Then I beat him back into the ground.

Every single scum member except for Alakazam has tried to nudge town into lynching me. Puns just followed in their footsteps.

He's just like Scare, he has no reason to be considered as town cleared as he is.

I don't recall Leo showing much fight. Did he even bother to claim his role or did he just hint he was power? I remember Panth showed fight, and that's the reason FD cited for taking the action he did. Regardless, Puns made Leo look pretty damn bad. You have to admit that because you only started calling Leo scum after his reactions to everything Puns did!

I get that you're recognizing a pattern, but what does that pattern have to do with logic? Just because some scum shaded you, why does that mean town wouldn't entertain your lynch?
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turbopuns2 posted...

Everyone is fine with a Ben lynch. If I'm scum there is zero motivation for me to not just push that narrative.

You're building a narrative that works up my potential as a mislynch based off of an action I never would've committed as scum to call me scum. That's the bottom line.

There are so many better reasons to push for me than the one you gave. You just reached for something and went for it.

Also I want to give credit to zam

I did not expect dumey st all so that early bus was very well played
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ScareChan posted...

You both going to look very silly after I flip

When I flip do lunch ben though

MEAN
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benjamin3740 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I think Puns is being perfectly reasonable, whether the choice to kill you before Death or another player is a good one or not. Is your case against Puns entirely built off his post today listing you as a future lynch?

He's trying to do exactly what Scare did: Pass me off as tomorrow's lunch without a justifiable reason for doing it.

It reeks of the desperation scum would have for mislynch right now. It's pretty clear scum has been trying to go after me for days, yet now that I've nailed scum to the wall us when puns is coming after me? It doesn't give as town motivated.

I've been paranoid of him since the beginning, since he screwed around with the millers. Han and Zach were both on that team, too.

I want to believe these reactions are real frustration, it's just the immediate jump to calling for Puns' lynch makes me feel like you just really really really don't want to die. But I guess that is also partly your argument against him. Do you think scum Puns did that to Leo to make himself look better?

Do remember that without the Lawyer from FD, Leo lives the day, and Leo had started showing "fight" again at the end. He could've potentially survived.

Of course, who did he primarily shade at that point? Me. Not Puns. Then I beat him back into the ground.

Every single scum member except for Alakazam has tried to nudge town into lynching me. Puns just followed in their footsteps.

He's just like Scare, he has no reason to be considered as town cleared as he is.

I don't recall Leo showing much fight. Did he even bother to claim his role or did he just hint he was power? I remember Panth showed fight, and that's the reason FD cited for taking the action he did. Regardless, Puns made Leo look pretty damn bad. You have to admit that because you only started calling Leo scum after his reactions to everything Puns did!

I get that you're recognizing a pattern, but what does that pattern have to do with logic? Just because some scum shaded you, why does that mean town wouldn't entertain your lynch?

After Puns pulled his scan claim, Leo immediately attacked me, not him.

Just because I was still sure Leo was scum doesn't mean Leo was going to die the next day. On day 4, Tony for example made it very clear he disagreed with the logic I used on Leo and was starting to use on Dumey. Leo could've survived.

There is no universe where I roll scum with Leo, and I go on the scum board and am like "Leo I have an excellent plan, I'm going to completely lie and say you killed plum and I'm going to lynch you. This is going to be so fun, don't you agree? Alright yes great plan. Best plan. Let's do it."

Like Leo would probably actually not want to be friends with me if I did that. It's absurd.

Crescent-Moon posted...

After Puns pulled his scan claim, Leo immediately attacked me, not him.

Why would Leo attack me? What?

Like Leo even said it's the least fun he has ever had in a game of mafia. It was not scum on scum.

And I still hold that Leo was one of the most sure scum reads in a mafia game that I've ever had.

(But was willing to kill Panthera first anyway, hint puns that's the scummiest thing I've done by far and you're attacking me for catching Scare.)

I'm hardly attacking you. I put you in a list of my 4 lynches and you went into mega overdrive defense mode.

Look this is really good stuff, but I'm pretty confident you're both town. Lets look at Han and Death next.

Crescent I'm only arguing against your points because I dont want you to go too far off the deep end. If I were to get lynched next I could see you and Puns killing each other after. Let it be known that dead man Ben thought you were both Town
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turbopuns2 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

After Puns pulled his scan claim, Leo immediately attacked me, not him.

Why would Leo attack me? What?

Scum Scare pulled a fake on town Panthera, thereby we've already proven scum can fake scans on town.

Leo's certainly played far more games than I have, and certainly seen it a lot more often.

The fact that you faked a scan on him shouldn't have simply made you auto town to him.

turbopuns2 posted...

I'm hardly attacking you. I put you in a list of my 4 lynches and you went into mega overdrive defense mode.

You put me as your #2 lynch for reasons I find both unacceptable and highly suspect.

benjamin3740 posted...

Look this is really good stuff, but I'm pretty confident you're both town. Lets look at Han and Death next.

Crescent I'm only arguing against your points because I dont want you to go too far off the deep end. If I were to get lynched next I could see you and Puns killing each other after. Let it be known that dead man Ben thought you were both Town

Part of me still wants to believe he's town, but I find it hard to see a town mentality behind this argument.

There are legitimate reasons to suspect me and he's not giving any of those reasons. He's just making something up that frankly insults my play.

Alright well I'm just going to leave it there for tonight.

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Look this is really good stuff, but I'm pretty confident you're both town. Lets look at Han and Death next.

Crescent I'm only arguing against your points because I dont want you to go too far off the deep end. If I were to get lynched next I could see you and Puns killing each other after. Let it be known that dead man Ben thought you were both Town

Part of me still wants to believe he's town, but I find it hard to see a town mentality behind this argument.

There are legitimate reasons to suspect me and he's not giving any of those reasons. He's just making something up that frankly insults my play.

At this stage of the game though there could definitely be some major inductive reasoning involved.

I mean I assume that's the reason a lot of people are fine with killing me....right? ;-;
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But yes I admit that this primarily stemming from the same thing I caught Scare on is biasing me.

benjamin3740 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Look this is really good stuff, but I'm pretty confident you're both town. Lets look at Han and Death next.

Crescent I'm only arguing against your points because I dont want you to go too far off the deep end. If I were to get lynched next I could see you and Puns killing each other after. Let it be known that dead man Ben thought you were both Town

Part of me still wants to believe he's town, but I find it hard to see a town mentality behind this argument.

There are legitimate reasons to suspect me and he's not giving any of those reasons. He's just making something up that frankly insults my play.

At this stage of the game though there could definitely be some major inductive reasoning involved.

I mean I assume that's the reason a lot of people are fine with killing me....right? ;-;

What put you on my radar early is that you were doing absolutely nothing.

If there's one thing though that IGCD left us with that I can actually remember, it's that he called that null on you whereas no one else did.

When I mentioned how worryingly quiet/ineffective you were, if my memory is correct, the one who primarily shaded you based off of my assertion was... Scare.

Please give crescent shit for her consistently saying she caught me after I flip
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ScareChan posted...

Please give crescent shit for her consistently saying she caught me after I flip

Meow.

I guess Ben does have a point though. I've been overlooking Han since day 2 and I've been overlooking Death this entire game. Aside from Death doing one thing on day 2 that I definitely remember noting my dislike of, I have had virtually no read on him this entire time.

I am not sure if I have played a game with a scum Death outside of my very first one and that one doesn't really count.

Guess I'll try to get some rest again now that it's slowed back doen.. I fell asleep waiting for the day to come up before, so it's possible I don't sleep again at all tonight. Guess we'll see.

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We never got end of day votals yesterday. Could we please today?

Id like to see how everything ended up....pain in the ass to do it on my phone
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Oh also

Now that the game is at an even number again, if it for some reason gets that far, is it better to test the target bomb claim the day before lylo instead of at lylo?

I seem to remember someone freaking out about "bombproof" scum earlier.

Bump.
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