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Abyssea
08/16/18 9:01:36 AM
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I don't know if they're real or not, but they basically revolve around these guys using a hot girl to lure guys onto a bus where they're blindfolded (the girl says she wants to try something kinky) and they end up getting a bj/sex from a guy instead of the girl.

:v most of the time they realize at the end that its actually a dude, but then they just go along with it. I don't know if they're morally acceptable, but I think they're great for the industry just because it offers employment opportunities for men and women in gay porn. More gigs are better for everyone, right?
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Heineken14
08/16/18 9:01:54 AM
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Abyssea posted...
I don't know if they're real or not


They're not.
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KhanJohnny
08/16/18 9:02:20 AM
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Abyssea posted...
I don't know if they're real or not, but they basically revolve around these guys using a hot girl to lure guys onto a bus where they're blindfolded (the girl says she wants to try something kinky) and they end up getting a bj/sex from a guy instead of the girl.

:v most of the time they realize at the end that its actually a dude, but then they just go along with it. I don't know if they're morally acceptable, but I think they're great for the industry just because it offers employment opportunities for men and women in gay porn. More gigs are better for everyone, right?

That's called sexual assault
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Blue_Target
08/16/18 9:04:36 AM
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There was a series on YouTube that tricked people into this. They didn't make a porno at the end.
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eston
08/16/18 9:07:12 AM
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They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure
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PMarth2002
08/16/18 9:08:19 AM
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I would assume they're staged, because if they're not its all kinds of fucked up.
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Abyssea
08/16/18 9:08:38 AM
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eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure


well, the girl is usually still on the bus. :v normally just giggling in the back.
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Ruid
08/16/18 9:09:41 AM
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eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?
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Abyssea
08/16/18 9:12:10 AM
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Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?


yea, this. :v I don't get what the big deal is. I mean, the girl didn't say she was the one who'd be giving him the bj, just that he'd be getting one. I mean, wheres the lie?
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The Trent
08/16/18 9:13:04 AM
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Abyssea posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure


well, the girl is usually still on the bus. :v normally just giggling in the back.


i'm confused about why you added that detail?
does it make it less deceptive if the girl is still on the bus giggling?
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eston
08/16/18 9:13:36 AM
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Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?

I don't know a whole lot about that aspect of it, I was talking about when you are lead to believe you are having sex with one person when it is actually a different person.

Like what happened in Revenge of the Nerds
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Fam_Fam
08/16/18 9:13:41 AM
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Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?


well the idea is that its rape by deception if a lie is deliberately used to obtain consent when it would have been obtained otherwise.
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CM_Ponch
08/16/18 9:13:49 AM
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Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?

Yes. She's giving consent to a lie. She is not willingly having sex with you, she's being tricked into having sex with someone she wouldn't normally be with.
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KiwiTerraRizing
08/16/18 9:15:22 AM
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All porn is fake
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Ruid
08/16/18 9:16:01 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?

Yes. She's giving consent to a lie. She is not willingly having sex with you, she's being tricked into having sex with someone she wouldn't normally be with.

LOL that's stupid.

"Your honor he told me he has a JOB! I wouldn't have gone through with it had I known he was unemployed! Charge him with rape!"
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Abyssea
08/16/18 9:18:42 AM
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The Trent posted...
Abyssea posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure


well, the girl is usually still on the bus. :v normally just giggling in the back.


i'm confused about why you added that detail?
does it make it less deceptive if the girl is still on the bus giggling?


well, it'd be one thing if the girl just checked out all together. but she remained on the premises. that has to count for something right?
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Fam_Fam
08/16/18 9:19:34 AM
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Ruid posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?

Yes. She's giving consent to a lie. She is not willingly having sex with you, she's being tricked into having sex with someone she wouldn't normally be with.

LOL that's stupid.

"Your honor he told me he has a JOB! I wouldn't have gone through with it had I known he was unemployed! Charge him with rape!"


you'd have to have people believe that he lied with the intention of getting her to consent when she would not have otherwise. he has no reason to expect that.
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Chicken
08/16/18 9:20:41 AM
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When I saw the term bait bus, I thought it was going to be about putting cheese in the door to trick people to go into it.
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Abyssea
08/16/18 9:22:18 AM
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Chicken posted...
When I saw the term bait bus, I thought it was going to be about putting cheese in the door to trick people to go into it.


similar concept really. just the hot girl takes the place of the cheese. :v it seems to work really well tbh. they've caught all sorts of straight guys. you can tell they're straight because they have on sideways baseball caps.
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Caution999
08/16/18 9:23:30 AM
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Imagine thinking porn stories are real.

What's next? Do you believe those incest ones are real too? "OMG sis why are you naked!!??"

Who the hell calls their sister "sis" anyway?
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eston
08/16/18 9:24:29 AM
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Ruid posted...
LOL that's stupid.

"Your honor he told me he has a JOB! I wouldn't have gone through with it had I known he was unemployed! Charge him with rape!"

I think it'd have to be much more egregious than that, which is why you don't hear about it often
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Abyssea
08/16/18 9:25:22 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Imagine thinking porn stories are real.

What's next? Do you believe those incest ones are real too? "OMG sis why are you naked!!??"

Who the hell calls their sister "sis" anyway?


they seem really straight though. :o Like, if they aren't they must be really good actors. Some of them even have on sports shirts.
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Caution999
08/16/18 9:31:28 AM
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LOL you must have a low standard for acting if you think anyone in porn is doing a good job acting.
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The Trent
08/16/18 10:17:38 AM
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Abyssea posted...
The Trent posted...
Abyssea posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure


well, the girl is usually still on the bus. :v normally just giggling in the back.


i'm confused about why you added that detail?
does it make it less deceptive if the girl is still on the bus giggling?


well, it'd be one thing if the girl just checked out all together. but she remained on the premises. that has to count for something right?


why would that count for something?
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Abyssea
08/16/18 10:43:14 AM
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Caution999 posted...
LOL you must have a low standard for acting if you think anyone in porn is doing a good job acting.


>.> well I was convinced.
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EpicMickeyDrew
08/16/18 10:47:02 AM
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Abyssea posted...
Caution999 posted...
Imagine thinking porn stories are real.

What's next? Do you believe those incest ones are real too? "OMG sis why are you naked!!??"

Who the hell calls their sister "sis" anyway?


they seem really straight though. :o Like, if they aren't they must be really good actors. Some of them even have on sports shirts.

Who said anything about lesbians??
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Darkrobotisback
08/16/18 10:55:21 AM
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Ruid posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?

Yes. She's giving consent to a lie. She is not willingly having sex with you, she's being tricked into having sex with someone she wouldn't normally be with.

LOL that's stupid.

"Your honor he told me he has a JOB! I wouldn't have gone through with it had I known he was unemployed! Charge him with rape!"


Some guy is expecting to have sex with a gal, in the end he gets oral sex from a guy.
Pretty sure if you deceive someone who would of thought that they were gonna get laid by the opposite sex...
Wouldn't be to happy about finding out that they had sex with the same sex, especially if the guy himself was only accustomed to having sex with women and only women.
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Abyssea
08/16/18 10:56:34 AM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
Ruid posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?

Yes. She's giving consent to a lie. She is not willingly having sex with you, she's being tricked into having sex with someone she wouldn't normally be with.

LOL that's stupid.

"Your honor he told me he has a JOB! I wouldn't have gone through with it had I known he was unemployed! Charge him with rape!"


Some guy is expecting to have sex with a gal, in the end he gets oral sex from a guy.
Pretty sure if you decieve someone who would of thought that they were gonna get laid by the opposite sex...
Wouldn't be to happy about finding out that they had sex with the same sex, especially if the guy himself was only accustomed to having sex with women and only women.


well, most of the time they're just upset for a minute or two, but then they get back to having sex. :v
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Ruid
08/16/18 10:56:52 AM
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LMAO accustomed

Like sexuality is decided by being open minded rather than just being into what you're naturally into.
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thanosibe
08/16/18 11:01:25 AM
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Lies in general are unethical. The scenario in the OP falls into this category.

Also good grief I'm glad I'm halfway to my grave.
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Darkrobotisback
08/16/18 11:01:27 AM
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Abyssea posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Ruid posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?

Yes. She's giving consent to a lie. She is not willingly having sex with you, she's being tricked into having sex with someone she wouldn't normally be with.

LOL that's stupid.

"Your honor he told me he has a JOB! I wouldn't have gone through with it had I known he was unemployed! Charge him with rape!"


Some guy is expecting to have sex with a gal, in the end he gets oral sex from a guy.
Pretty sure if you decieve someone who would of thought that they were gonna get laid by the opposite sex...
Wouldn't be to happy about finding out that they had sex with the same sex, especially if the guy himself was only accustomed to having sex with women and only women.


well, most of the time they're just upset for a minute or two, but then they get back to having sex. :v

Pretty sure, some people will take it so far that they'll end up hurting or murdering the person that deceived them.
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Heineken14
08/16/18 11:02:32 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Imagine thinking porn stories are real.

What's next? Do you believe those incest ones are real too? "OMG sis why are you naked!!??"

Who the hell calls their sister "sis" anyway?


You know a topic is hot garbage when caution is the one dropping logic bombs in it. lol
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Abyssea
08/16/18 11:02:49 AM
#33:


Darkrobotisback posted...
Abyssea posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Ruid posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Ruid posted...
eston posted...
They're not real, and that would be considered rape by deception I'm pretty sure

Wait...what?

Alright I need more examples because this sounds ridiculous. So like if a guy pretends to be rich and the girl later finds out she got fucked by a nobody, she can call it rape? If a guy lies about his real name at a club and the woman has sex with him later, she'd be able to call that rape?

Yes. She's giving consent to a lie. She is not willingly having sex with you, she's being tricked into having sex with someone she wouldn't normally be with.

LOL that's stupid.

"Your honor he told me he has a JOB! I wouldn't have gone through with it had I known he was unemployed! Charge him with rape!"


Some guy is expecting to have sex with a gal, in the end he gets oral sex from a guy.
Pretty sure if you decieve someone who would of thought that they were gonna get laid by the opposite sex...
Wouldn't be to happy about finding out that they had sex with the same sex, especially if the guy himself was only accustomed to having sex with women and only women.


well, most of the time they're just upset for a minute or two, but then they get back to having sex. :v

Pretty sure, some people will take it so far that they'll end up hurting or murdering the person that deceived them.


that's never happened on bait bus as far as I know.
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Ruid
08/16/18 11:04:07 AM
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That's how you know it isn't real.

LMAO imagine they take the blindfold off and the guy looks down and pukes on top of the other guy's head
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Abyssea
08/16/18 11:05:43 AM
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Ruid posted...
That's how you know it isn't real.

LMAO imagine they take the blindfold off and the guy looks down and pukes on top of the other guy's head


well, im sure that's somebodies fetish. :v
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AvlButtslam
08/16/18 11:06:49 AM
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Who is even the target audience for these lol
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Chicken
08/16/18 11:08:15 AM
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AvlButtslam posted...
Who is even the target audience for these lol

Closet
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Abyssea
08/16/18 11:11:50 AM
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Chicken posted...
AvlButtslam posted...
Who is even the target audience for these lol

Closet


Probably the same people who like "Broke straight boys." That's where they pay allegedly straight guys to perform acts of wanton homosexuality for lots of money. :v Like their rent is due or something so they really need the money.

Seems a lot less inspired than bait bus imo.
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EternalDivide
08/16/18 11:14:27 AM
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It's all staged I'm sure.
But is that the one where they just pick up some dude and he bangs some skank in the back or the one where they pick up some dude with the promise of some skank but it's really another dude?
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Abyssea
08/16/18 11:15:41 AM
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EternalDivide posted...
It's all staged I'm sure.
But is that the one where they just pick up some dude and he bangs some skank in the back or the one where they pick up some dude with the promise of some skank but it's really another dude?


the latter
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AvlButtslam
08/16/18 11:19:25 AM
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Is there a hetero bang bus too? I think I was getting them confused lol
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Abyssea
08/16/18 11:20:35 AM
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AvlButtslam posted...
Is there a hetero bang bus too? I think I was getting them confused lol


probably, wouldn't be the first time the heteros ripped us off :v
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Caution999
08/16/18 11:23:32 AM
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gp1829
08/16/18 11:29:50 AM
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Abyssea posted...
Chicken posted...
When I saw the term bait bus, I thought it was going to be about putting cheese in the door to trick people to go into it.


similar concept really. just the hot girl takes the place of the cheese. :v it seems to work really well tbh. they've caught all sorts of straight guys. you can tell they're straight because they have on sideways baseball caps.


The sideways baseball cap thing made me laugh way more than it should have.
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TheSextMachine
08/16/18 11:35:45 AM
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Bait buses are old hat. Nowadays it is all about fake taxis and loss prevention.
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Abyssea
08/16/18 11:39:47 AM
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Caution999 posted...


now I want pizza :(
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Kitt
08/16/18 11:41:20 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Abyssea posted...
I don't know if they're real or not


They're not.

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Abyssea
08/16/18 11:42:34 AM
#48:


TheSextMachine posted...
Bait buses are old hat. Nowadays it is all about fake taxis and loss prevention.


I think "Straight Hell" is the new big one now. A lot more intense than bait bus.
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yusiko
08/16/18 11:54:28 AM
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you do realize most gay men seem straight right? the obvious ones are a minority
and also a lot of gay porn performers are gay for pay (that means they are straight men who have sex with other men for money because it pays a lot more than regular porn)
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Heineken14
08/16/18 11:58:35 AM
#50:


TheSextMachine posted...
Bait buses are old hat. Nowadays it is all about fake taxis and loss prevention.


I mean, how could anyone forget THAT black couch?
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