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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 12:32:15 AM
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okay, where is this mythical realm where all dogs are well trained right off the bat?
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catboy0_0
08/18/18 12:32:34 AM
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Stop it. Get some help.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 12:35:21 AM
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cue countless replies offering no sound advice and people again just saying the owner's bad/they trained the dog wrong, etc.
oh, can't forget the replies of "my dog would never do that," "you're a horrible person," etc.
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kingdrake2
08/18/18 12:50:10 AM
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i typically try my hardest with my dog. she isn't perfect but i try my best to make her happy. only a few bad habits:

barking (not as bad now, she was slightly worse in her youth)
pulling excessively on the leash (it varies) usually she's good about it on this one. she enjoys those walks.
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Dragonblade01
08/18/18 1:07:43 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
okay, where is this mythical realm where all dogs are well trained right off the bat?

Um, I think they say that because they know such a realm doesn't exist.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:09:44 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
okay, where is this mythical realm where all dogs are well trained right off the bat?

Um, I think they say that because they know such a realm doesn't exist.

and yet any time a dog is brought up in a topic in a negative light, ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET, this is the 100% GUARANTEED to be a response. doesn't matter what context, the owner is ALWAYS at fault.
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Dragonblade01
08/18/18 1:11:13 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
okay, where is this mythical realm where all dogs are well trained right off the bat?

Um, I think they say that because they know such a realm doesn't exist.

and yet any time a dog is brought up in a topic in a negative light, ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET, this is the 100% GUARANTEED to be a response.

Right, but they say that because training is so important, not because they untrain good behavior out of them or something.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:12:58 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
okay, where is this mythical realm where all dogs are well trained right off the bat?

Um, I think they say that because they know such a realm doesn't exist.

and yet any time a dog is brought up in a topic in a negative light, ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET, this is the 100% GUARANTEED to be a response.

Right, but they say that because training is so important, not because they untrain good behavior out of them or something.

And again, back to my original question, where is this mythical realm where all dogs are 100% trained all the time?
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Dragonblade01
08/18/18 1:15:40 AM
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It doesn't exist and still has no effect on the issue.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:16:50 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
It doesn't exist and still has no effect on the issue.

Then why do people say it like it does exist?
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FortuneCookie
08/18/18 1:19:27 AM
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I'm waiting for context between the offense and the response.

:v
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Gafemage
08/18/18 1:19:28 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
It doesn't exist and still has no effect on the issue.

Then why do people say it like it does exist?

he already answered your question
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:25:46 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I'm waiting for context between the offense and the response.

:v

You want context? Fine. That darknight topic where he kicked his two dogs (huskies no less, you ever seen a fucking husky? they're goddamn huge, a kick to them would be like a swift pat on the back of your head) off his cat. Even Cesar Milan, the purported "dog whisperer" makes mistakes, as seen when that one dog fucking flipped out and bit the shit out of him. Oh, but what did Cesar Milan do? He swiftly and firmly smacked the fucking dog. And yet, everyone in that topic is still continuing to chastise and belittle him, when the alternative would be a terribly mangled or injured cat.
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Reis
08/18/18 1:30:19 AM
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what a strange meltdown
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:31:30 AM
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Reis posted...
what a strange meltdown

How is this a meltdown? I'm just pointing out a lapse in logic that everyone across the internet shares when it comes to dogs.
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Axiom
08/18/18 1:31:47 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
a kick to them would be like a swift pat on the back of your head)

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Every post TC has made in this topic has been stupid
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Dragonblade01
08/18/18 1:31:53 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
It doesn't exist and still has no effect on the issue.

Then why do people say it like it does exist?

They don't.
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BignutzisBack
08/18/18 1:32:19 AM
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FortuneCookie
08/18/18 1:33:39 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
FortuneCookie posted...
I'm waiting for context between the offense and the response.

:v

You want context? Fine. That darknight topic where he kicked his two dogs (huskies no less, you ever seen a fucking husky? they're goddamn huge, a kick to them would be like a swift pat on the back of your head) off his cat. Even Cesar Milan, the purported "dog whisperer" makes mistakes, as seen when that one dog fucking flipped out and bit the shit out of him. Oh, but what did Cesar Milan do? He swiftly and firmly smacked the fucking dog. And yet, everyone in that topic is still continuing to chastise and belittle him, when the alternative would be a terribly mangled or injured cat.


When a dog reacts violently, yeah, you have to be swift and stern with them. :(
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:34:00 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
It doesn't exist and still has no effect on the issue.

Then why do people say it like it does exist?

They don't.

Burgess posted
If he trained the dog worth a shit then he wouldn't have to kick it, just tell it to stop and it would. But hey one untrained beast living with another.

If he trained the dog

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powerman1426
08/18/18 1:35:44 AM
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Dragonblade01
08/18/18 1:35:53 AM
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I should point out that I don't necessarily disagree with darkprince in that topic. If you think your dog might kill your cat, the snap judgment makes perfect sense. Whether he was a good owner or not before that is honestly irrelevent to that situation.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:36:39 AM
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powerman1426 posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Darkprince alt?

Must be

No. I'm just tired of seeing all reasoning and critical thinking thrown out the window when it comes to dogs. There's no such thing as a bad dog, ever.
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powerman1426
08/18/18 1:37:08 AM
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Dragonblade01
08/18/18 1:39:21 AM
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Conflict posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I should point out that I don't necessarily disagree with darkprince in that topic. If you think your dog might kill your cat, the snap judgment makes perfect sense. Whether he was a good owner or not before that is honestly irrelevent to that situation.


what topic is this even in reference to

Idk where the topic is, but darkprince claimed he about broke his foot when he kicked his husky who he thought was being dangerously rough with his cat.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:40:56 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Conflict posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I should point out that I don't necessarily disagree with darkprince in that topic. If you think your dog might kill your cat, the snap judgment makes perfect sense. Whether he was a good owner or not before that is honestly irrelevent to that situation.


what topic is this even in reference to

Idk where the topic is, but darkprince claimed he about broke his foot when he kicked his husky who he thought was being dangerously rough with his cat.

And again, huskies are fucking huge. They're not ones to be able to gauge their own strength, so when a dog is attempting to attack a small creature vehemently, chances are the average person trying to stop a dog from doing that is gonna get their foot fucked up.
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Axiom
08/18/18 1:45:32 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Conflict posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I should point out that I don't necessarily disagree with darkprince in that topic. If you think your dog might kill your cat, the snap judgment makes perfect sense. Whether he was a good owner or not before that is honestly irrelevent to that situation.


what topic is this even in reference to

Idk where the topic is, but darkprince claimed he about broke his foot when he kicked his husky who he thought was being dangerously rough with his cat.

And again, huskies are fucking huge. They're not ones to be able to gauge their own strength, so when a dog is attempting to attack a small creature vehemently, chances are the average person trying to stop a dog from doing that is gonna get their foot fucked up.

Lol no. Kicking a dog hard enough to break a foot is far more force than necessary. Hell just putting your foot on it and pushing should be enough. I say this as someone that stopped a wolf dog from attacking one of its own pups. Literally all that was needed was to grab it's neck and scream at it

If his dog is violent enough that it requires anything more than that then yeah he's a bad dog owner or the dog is damaged enough that it shouldn't be around humans and needs to be seen by professionals
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powerman1426
08/18/18 1:45:33 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Conflict posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I should point out that I don't necessarily disagree with darkprince in that topic. If you think your dog might kill your cat, the snap judgment makes perfect sense. Whether he was a good owner or not before that is honestly irrelevent to that situation.


what topic is this even in reference to

Idk where the topic is, but darkprince claimed he about broke his foot when he kicked his husky who he thought was being dangerously rough with his cat.

And again, huskies are fucking huge. They're not ones to be able to gauge their own strength, so when a dog is attempting to attack a small creature vehemently, chances are the average person trying to stop a dog from doing that is gonna get their foot fucked up.

60 lb. Husky is huge? Do you even physical?
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powerman1426
08/18/18 1:47:30 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Conflict posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I should point out that I don't necessarily disagree with darkprince in that topic. If you think your dog might kill your cat, the snap judgment makes perfect sense. Whether he was a good owner or not before that is honestly irrelevent to that situation.


what topic is this even in reference to

Idk where the topic is, but darkprince claimed he about broke his foot when he kicked his husky who he thought was being dangerously rough with his cat.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76913202
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Dragonblade01
08/18/18 1:49:50 AM
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In my eyes, it's a poor decision that may in fact be indicative of general ignorance regarding dogs, but still an understandable one given the situation.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:50:33 AM
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Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Conflict posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I should point out that I don't necessarily disagree with darkprince in that topic. If you think your dog might kill your cat, the snap judgment makes perfect sense. Whether he was a good owner or not before that is honestly irrelevent to that situation.


what topic is this even in reference to

Idk where the topic is, but darkprince claimed he about broke his foot when he kicked his husky who he thought was being dangerously rough with his cat.

And again, huskies are fucking huge. They're not ones to be able to gauge their own strength, so when a dog is attempting to attack a small creature vehemently, chances are the average person trying to stop a dog from doing that is gonna get their foot fucked up.

Lol no. Kicking a dog hard enough to break a foot is far more force than necessary. Hell just putting your foot on it and pushing should be enough. I say this as someone that stopped a wolf dog from attacking one of its own pups. Literally all that was needed was to grab it's neck and scream at it

If his dog is violent enough that it requires anything more than that then yeah he's a bad dog owner or the dog is damaged enough that it shouldn't be around humans and needs to be seen by professionals

And here's where that "throwing all logic and reasoning out the window when it comes to dogs" comes into play. The owner in this case was trying to pry two dogs away from a cat. The dogs are making a violent effort to try and get to the cat. If you put your leg in between something that's an opposing force to your leg/foot, it's not going to be pretty. Even the smallest of dogs can manage to fuck up even the beefiest of a persons foot, to the point where a person might say, "I think my foot is broke."
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EnragedSlith
08/18/18 1:51:23 AM
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We socialized our puppy, but she still became pretty dog aggressive. Sometimes, its just a personality thing.
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Axiom
08/18/18 1:55:51 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Even the smallest of dogs can manage to fuck up even the beefiest of a persons foot, to the point where a person might say, "I think my leg is broke."

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you

Oh and after reading that topic it sounds like they were just being rough with his cat and he freaked out. Nearly breaking your foot from kicking a dog that is being to rough is definitely bad
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 1:58:23 AM
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Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
Even the smallest of dogs can manage to fuck up even the beefiest of a persons foot, to the point where a person might say, "I think my leg is broke."

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you

Oh and after reading that topic it sounds like they were just being rough with his cat and he freaked out. Nearly breaking your foot from kicking a dog that is being to rough is definitely bad

...and you've never seen a daschund leave a leg encompassing bruise on a relatively large man after breaking up a fight between him and a collie/husky mix? Gotcha.
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Kineth
08/18/18 2:01:09 AM
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Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
a kick to them would be like a swift pat on the back of your head)

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Every post TC has made in this topic has been stupid

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GoriIIa
08/18/18 2:02:15 AM
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I have two Huskys! Theyve gotten into arguments with other dogs at the dog parks. Ive seen a lot of other dogs get really aggressive there too. No one, not even the grandmas and grandpas, has ever gotten hurt seperating their dogs from a fight. Conversely, theyve never hurt their dogs by kicking the shit out of them either.

Jesus Christ.
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Axiom
08/18/18 2:02:21 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
Even the smallest of dogs can manage to fuck up even the beefiest of a persons foot, to the point where a person might say, "I think my leg is broke."

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you

Oh and after reading that topic it sounds like they were just being rough with his cat and he freaked out. Nearly breaking your foot from kicking a dog that is being to rough is definitely bad

...and you've never seen a daschund leave a leg encompassing bruise on a relatively large man after breaking up a fight between him and a collie/husky mix? Gotcha.

You still don't get it. Kicking a dog hard enough to cause an injury is bad and abusive behavior
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 2:02:36 AM
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Kineth posted...
Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
a kick to them would be like a swift pat on the back of your head)

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Every post TC has made in this topic has been stupid

And again, I will recite my post where Cesar Fucking Milan swiftly kicks dog all the fucking time.
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Gafemage
08/18/18 2:04:19 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
Even the smallest of dogs can manage to fuck up even the beefiest of a persons foot, to the point where a person might say, "I think my leg is broke."

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you

Oh and after reading that topic it sounds like they were just being rough with his cat and he freaked out. Nearly breaking your foot from kicking a dog that is being to rough is definitely bad

...and you've never seen a daschund leave a leg encompassing bruise on a relatively large man after breaking up a fight between him and a collie/husky mix? Gotcha.

Might just be the Melatonin kicking in, but this post seems kinda incoherent to me.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 2:06:42 AM
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Conflict posted...
Oh ok so it's reaching the point where you're unironically trying to argue for animal abuse while claiming everyone else is being illogical

Good gimmick

I'm trying to bring to light the failure in logic online literally anytime someone brings up a dog doing unfavorable behavior, resulting in people tripping over themselves to demonize the person who said the dog was doing something unfavorable in the first place.

Also if you were somewhat observant you'd note Yukiho Hagiwara is an idol from idolm@ster with an aversion to dogs, but I swear that's just happenstance.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 2:09:29 AM
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Conflict posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
Conflict posted...
Oh ok so it's reaching the point where you're unironically trying to argue for animal abuse while claiming everyone else is being illogical

Good gimmick

I'm trying to bring to light the failure in logic online literally anytime someone brings up a dog doing unfavorable behavior, resulting in people tripping over themselves to demonize the person who said the dog was doing something unfavorable in the first place.


No that's not what you were doing. You were literally trying to justify dog kicking as a standard procedure of animal restraint. Don't give me that bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mpuybf1pYY" data-time="

okay, mister "I know better than cesar milan."
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Kineth
08/18/18 2:09:32 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
Kineth posted...
Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
a kick to them would be like a swift pat on the back of your head)

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Every post TC has made in this topic has been stupid

And again, I will recite my post where Cesar Fucking Milan swiftly kicks dog all the fucking time.


You don't get that I was talking about that post being stupid too. Jesus fucking Christ.
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Lord_Wombat
08/18/18 2:13:17 AM
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Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
a kick to them would be like a swift pat on the back of your head)

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Every post TC has made in this topic has been stupid

Agreed.

I have a Husky/Collie mix, she was hell when I first got her.

Never laid a hand on her unless we were roughhousing, and she's one of the most well behaved dogs I've ever had. You can tell she wants to misbehave (she's only 6 months old, she's quite excitable around strangers and other animals), but all it takes is a simple "hey" from my wife or I and she immediately drops to her ass to await further instructions. She may whimper or shake excitedly, but she never blatantly disregards what she's told.

Saying hitting a dog is necessary for training is about the stupidest fucking thing I've heard in a long time. "But [that idiot] Cesar Milan hit a dog when it bit him!"

Okay, so self defense = training now? Use your fucking brain.

I guarantee you TC hit their kids too as soon as they find someone miserable enough to actually have sex with them.
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YukihoHagiwara
08/18/18 2:13:20 AM
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Kineth posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
Kineth posted...
Axiom posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
a kick to them would be like a swift pat on the back of your head)

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Every post TC has made in this topic has been stupid

And again, I will recite my post where Cesar Fucking Milan swiftly kicks dog all the fucking time.


You don't get that I was talking about that post being stupid too. Jesus fucking Christ.

But that's exactly how cesar milan uses kicks though.
And for the record, I don't see any "Lord Wombat" Dog Psychology centers, I also don't see your collie/husky mix amongst all the dogfood when I get dogfood.
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08/18/18 2:17:02 AM
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