decency for not handshaking??

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jborgan 08/19/18 5:01:08 AM #51:	Forlorn_Ass posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society. Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently. --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:907145771] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Forlorn_Ass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society</quote> So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society.</quote> Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/19/18 5:04:13 AM #52:	christiantiy and islam both need to go, but christianity is clearly the lesser of two evils here, plus islam isn't embedded in western culture. so its easy to stop them from bringing it here whereas its difficult to remove christianity. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:907145822] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>christiantiy and islam both need to go, but christianity is clearly the lesser of two evils here, plus islam isn't embedded in western culture. so its easy to stop them from bringing it here whereas its difficult to remove christianity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 08/19/18 5:09:25 AM #53:	Sweden acting like a shitstain as usual. At least they ruled in her favor for the job one at least. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:907145905] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>Sweden acting like a shitstain as usual. At least they ruled in her favor for the job one at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/19/18 5:11:26 AM #54:	I agree. Why take offense if someone doesn't guesture respect the same way you do? Seems childish to me. --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907145933] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>I agree. Why take offense if someone doesn't guesture respect the same way you do? Seems childish to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/19/18 5:17:36 AM #55:	catboy0_0 posted... I agree. Why take offense if someone doesn't guesture respect the same way you do? Seems childish to me. agreed, its selfish that this muslim expects people to gesture the same way she does and hand her jobs --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:907146051] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree. Why take offense if someone doesn't guesture respect the same way you do? Seems childish to me.</quote> agreed, its selfish that this muslim expects people to gesture the same way she does and hand her jobs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J-O-N-I-C-S 08/19/18 5:22:45 AM #56:	So now you people are now whining about handshakes nowadays, huh. --- Mods heart me. <cite>J-O-N-I-C-S posted [p:907146132] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>So now you people are now whining about handshakes nowadays, huh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RainblowDash 08/19/18 5:53:47 AM #57:	They should go back to their own country --- Ryzen 7 1700X - Sapphire RX Vega 64 - ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Samsung 960 EVO 500gb - G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16gb - Silverstone SX700 700W <cite>RainblowDash posted [p:907146578] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>They should go back to their own country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/19/18 6:08:33 AM #58:	J-O-N-I-C-S posted... So now you people are now whining about handshakes nowadays, huh. yeah, its petty that this muslim is whining about a handshake costing her the job --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:907146800] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>J-O-N-I-C-S posted...</cite> <quote>So now you people are now whining about handshakes nowadays, huh.</quote> yeah, its petty that this muslim is whining about a handshake costing her the job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/19/18 6:23:11 AM #59:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... EVEN AFTER they explained that touching strangers are against their religion, Tough shit. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:907146994] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>EVEN AFTER they explained that touching strangers are against their religion, </quote> Tough shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 08/19/18 6:44:00 AM #60:	catboy0_0 posted... I agree. Why take offense if someone doesn't guesture respect the same way you do? Seems childish to me. I can agree on that to a certain extent. But refusing to touch someone because of yoir religion is stupid and not something we should continue to allow to exist. It serves no real purpose other than to put certain groups of people down or see them as lesser. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:907147317] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree. Why take offense if someone doesn't guesture respect the same way you do? Seems childish to me.</quote> I can agree on that to a certain extent. But refusing to touch someone because of yoir religion is stupid and not something we should continue to allow to exist. It serves no real purpose other than to put certain groups of people down or see them as lesser.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 08/19/18 7:32:29 AM #61:	RainblowDash posted... They should go back to their own country i think this is the most sensible solution --- https://imgur.com/hEL2qQYh https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/FA2GxDS https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn <cite>ModLogic posted [p:907148046] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>RainblowDash posted...</cite> <quote>They should go back to their own country</quote> i think this is the most sensible solution</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 08/19/18 7:36:40 AM #62:	Well it's not like you can expect Muslim immigrants to assimilate to the culture of whatever country they're moving to can you? --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:907148115] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>Well it's not like you can expect Muslim immigrants to assimilate to the culture of whatever country they're moving to can you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 08/19/18 8:02:04 AM #63:	Funkydog posted... It serves no real purpose other than to put certain groups of people down or see them as lesser. No, that would be what refusing to reasonably accommodate a religious belief and insisting complete assimilation does. I'd even go as far to say that's the entire purpose of not making reasonable accommodations for religious beliefs. But feel free to pretend otherwise. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:907148576] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote> It serves no real purpose other than to put certain groups of people down or see them as lesser. </quote> No, that would be what refusing to reasonably accommodate a religious belief and insisting complete assimilation does. I'd even go as far to say that's the entire purpose of not making reasonable accommodations for religious beliefs. But feel free to pretend otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 08/19/18 8:05:12 AM #64:	Serious Cat posted... Funkydog posted... It serves no real purpose other than to put certain groups of people down or see them as lesser. No, that would be what refusing to reasonably accommodate a religious belief and insisting complete assimilation does. I'd even go as far to say that's the entire purpose of not making reasonable accommodations for religious beliefs. But feel free to pretend otherwise. I don't completely disagree, but how much should we allow when what a religion asks might go against more modern values of treating all equally and NOT refusing to touch X people. All for people having whatever religious belief they want, until it impacts others people. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:907148624] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Serious Cat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote> It serves no real purpose other than to put certain groups of people down or see them as lesser. </quote> No, that would be what refusing to reasonably accommodate a religious belief and insisting complete assimilation does. I'd even go as far to say that's the entire purpose of not making reasonable accommodations for religious beliefs. But feel free to pretend otherwise.</quote> I don't completely disagree, but how much should we allow when what a religion asks might go against more modern values of treating all equally and NOT refusing to touch X people. All for people having whatever religious belief they want, until it impacts others people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Autocraticus 08/19/18 8:21:07 AM #65:	Why is this even an issue? In the article you posted: According to the Migration Policy Institute, in 2007 the Swiss federal government laid out, in the Ordinance on the Integration of Foreigners, stricter federal guidelines for the integration process of non-EU/EFTA citizens. The most important measures of integration, according to the ordinance, are mastery of a Swiss national language (German, French, Italian or Romansh) and speaking that language in the home. Other criteria include an understanding of Swiss social life and structure, Swiss laws and the legal system, and matters of community respect. If you are unaware of the policies and laws that have been in place for over a decade in the country you are trying to immigrate to, whose fault is that? <cite>Autocraticus posted [p:907148918] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>Why is this even an issue? In the article you posted: <quote>According to the Migration Policy Institute, in 2007 the Swiss federal government laid out, in the Ordinance on the Integration of Foreigners, stricter federal guidelines for the integration process of non-EU/EFTA citizens. The most important measures of integration, according to the ordinance, are mastery of a Swiss national language (German, French, Italian or Romansh) and speaking that language in the home. Other criteria include an understanding of Swiss social life and structure, Swiss laws and the legal system, and matters of community respect.</quote> If you are unaware of the policies and laws that have been in place for over a decade in the country you are trying to immigrate to, whose fault is that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 08/19/18 8:29:37 AM #66:	Topic went pretty much the way I knew it would. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:907149067] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>Topic went pretty much the way I knew it would.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 08/19/18 9:59:19 AM #67:	Funkydog posted... I don't completely disagree, but how much should we allow when what a religion asks might go against more modern values of treating all equally and NOT refusing to touch X people. Reasonable accommodations. You can be a secretary and provide service without shaking hands. You can't be a clerk and provide service if you're refusing to perform basic job functions. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:907151186] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't completely disagree, but how much should we allow when what a religion asks might go against more modern values of treating all equally and NOT refusing to touch X people.</quote> Reasonable accommodations. You can be a secretary and provide service without shaking hands. You can't be a clerk and provide service if you're refusing to perform basic job functions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/19/18 10:03:08 AM #68:	It's " against their religion" because he religion says she's less than a man and is the property of her husband, who will be the only man who can touch her. No issue with a country not wanting to promote that kind of sexism. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:907151306] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>It's " against their religion" because he religion says she's less than a man and is the property of her husband, who will be the only man who can touch her. No issue with a country not wanting to promote that kind of sexism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 08/19/18 10:14:34 AM #69:	Serious Cat posted... Funkydog posted... I don't completely disagree, but how much should we allow when what a religion asks might go against more modern values of treating all equally and NOT refusing to touch X people. Reasonable accommodations. You can be a secretary and provide service without shaking hands. You can't be a clerk and provide service if you're refusing to perform basic job functions. Definitely possible, yes, but I have to agree with Admiral (as much as I hate to) We should look at why someone is refusing to do something. If they have OCD for example, then I think that would be a reasonable reason for them not to touch someone if it manifested itself in such a way, or they had PTSD from an incident. But because their religion deems that woman aren't allowed to touch someone else? I don't know. Is that something we want to promote and say is okay? Should it be something we okay if someone said they didn't want to touch gays, or lepers etc? It's a careful line to tread, allowing someone to express their religion, while not allowing it to be used to continue to push oppressive and bigoted views. Something we should do with all religions mind, not just Islam. Christianity should be treated with the same disregard for its own backward views on various matters. Now, if this means we should deny them jobs? I'm less certain on. I think could be better ways to encourage them to actually move to the modern world then shutting them out. I feel that is more liable to just entrench them in their views sadly. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:907151645] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Serious Cat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't completely disagree, but how much should we allow when what a religion asks might go against more modern values of treating all equally and NOT refusing to touch X people.</quote> Reasonable accommodations. You can be a secretary and provide service without shaking hands. You can't be a clerk and provide service if you're refusing to perform basic job functions.</quote> Definitely possible, yes, but I have to agree with Admiral (as much as I hate to) We should look at why someone is refusing to do something. If they have OCD for example, then I think that would be a reasonable reason for them not to touch someone if it manifested itself in such a way, or they had PTSD from an incident. But because their religion deems that woman aren't allowed to touch someone else? I don't know. Is that something we want to promote and say is okay? Should it be something we okay if someone said they didn't want to touch gays, or lepers etc? It's a careful line to tread, allowing someone to express their religion, while not allowing it to be used to continue to push oppressive and bigoted views. Something we should do with all religions mind, not just Islam. Christianity should be treated with the same disregard for its own backward views on various matters. Now, if this means we should deny them jobs? I'm less certain on. I think could be better ways to encourage them to actually move to the modern world then shutting them out. I feel that is more liable to just entrench them in their views sadly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/19/18 10:19:05 AM #70:	Because if they are allowed to get jobs without showing respect to men it mens they have not assimilated to the society and that they are trying to take over. Na that makes no sense no one believes that. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:907151769] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>Because if they are allowed to get jobs without showing respect to men it mens they have not assimilated to the society and that they are trying to take over. Na that makes no sense no one believes that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 08/19/18 10:19:52 AM #71:	Funkydog posted... It's a careful line to tread, allowing someone to express their religion, while not allowing it to be used to continue to push oppressive and bigoted views. If it's legitimately her religious/cultural/just doesn't want to shake hands belief, it's fine. If she's not doing it of her own free will, that's another thing entirely. It just seems to defeat the ostensible purpose if the way to combat oppressive social mores is to foist competing mores onto her against her will. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:907151798] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>It's a careful line to tread, allowing someone to express their religion, while not allowing it to be used to continue to push oppressive and bigoted views.</quote> If it's legitimately her religious/cultural/just doesn't want to shake hands belief, it's fine. If she's not doing it of her own free will, that's another thing entirely. It just seems to defeat the ostensible purpose if the way to combat oppressive social mores is to foist competing mores onto her against her will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 08/19/18 10:25:13 AM #72:	Rika_Furude posted... as opposed to this snowflake muslim whos throwing a hissy over not getting a job despite having every opportunity to? I mean we were just having topics here about asians being discriminated by colleges based on personality. Refusing to hire someone because of a handshake just seems silly if they were qualified for the position. --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:907151973] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>as opposed to this snowflake muslim whos throwing a hissy over not getting a job despite having every opportunity to?</quote> I mean we were just having topics here about asians being discriminated by colleges based on personality. Refusing to hire someone because of a handshake just seems silly if they were qualified for the position.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/19/18 10:27:22 AM #73:	KStateKing17 posted... Rika_Furude posted... as opposed to this snowflake muslim whos throwing a hissy over not getting a job despite having every opportunity to? I mean we were just having topics here about asians being discriminated by colleges based on personality. Refusing to hire someone because of a handshake just seems silly if they were qualified for the position. Would you be okay with an employer who not hiring someone who openly said "I think women are inferior to men?" Because that's what is happening here. It's not just the simple gesture of the handshake, it's the implication of why this woman can't touch a man's hand. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:907152049] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>as opposed to this snowflake muslim whos throwing a hissy over not getting a job despite having every opportunity to?</quote> I mean we were just having topics here about asians being discriminated by colleges based on personality. Refusing to hire someone because of a handshake just seems silly if they were qualified for the position.</quote> Would you be okay with an employer who not hiring someone who openly said "I think women are inferior to men?" Because that's what is happening here. It's not just the simple gesture of the handshake, it's the implication of why this woman can't touch a man's hand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 08/19/18 10:28:55 AM #74:	My religion forbids me to work more than an hour a day. Hire me or you're a bigot. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:907152093] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>My religion forbids me to work more than an hour a day. Hire me or you're a bigot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 08/19/18 10:33:58 AM #75:	Serious Cat posted... Funkydog posted... It's a careful line to tread, allowing someone to express their religion, while not allowing it to be used to continue to push oppressive and bigoted views. If it's legitimately her religious/cultural/just doesn't want to shake hands belief, it's fine. If she's not doing it of her own free will, that's another thing entirely. It just seems to defeat the ostensible purpose if the way to combat oppressive social mores is to foist competing mores onto her against her will. Why does it being ones religion make it okay though? We wouldn't (and don't usually) let Christians treat gay people any different, why should this be any different? I suppose I can agree to an extent that forcing her to change might not really accomplish what is desired, but allowing bigoted views/mindsets to linger doesn't either. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:907152269] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Serious Cat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>It's a careful line to tread, allowing someone to express their religion, while not allowing it to be used to continue to push oppressive and bigoted views.</quote> If it's legitimately her religious/cultural/just doesn't want to shake hands belief, it's fine. If she's not doing it of her own free will, that's another thing entirely. It just seems to defeat the ostensible purpose if the way to combat oppressive social mores is to foist competing mores onto her against her will.</quote> Why does it being ones religion make it okay though? We wouldn't (and don't usually) let Christians treat gay people any different, why should this be any different? I suppose I can agree to an extent that forcing her to change might not really accomplish what is desired, but allowing bigoted views/mindsets to linger doesn't either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 08/19/18 11:06:18 AM #76:	The Admiral posted... KStateKing17 posted... Rika_Furude posted... as opposed to this snowflake muslim whos throwing a hissy over not getting a job despite having every opportunity to? I mean we were just having topics here about asians being discriminated by colleges based on personality. Refusing to hire someone because of a handshake just seems silly if they were qualified for the position. Would you be okay with an employer who not hiring someone who openly said "I think women are inferior to men?" Because that's what is happening here. It's not just the simple gesture of the handshake, it's the implication of why this woman can't touch a man's hand. If that type of thinking is going to have an effect on the business or his work than sure I can't argue with the business. They have the right to refuse both, but the lack of a handshake being the dealbreaker just seems silly. I'd also add that people in the USA still have different approaches on how they treat each other due to sex that we don't consider offensive. The way we speak (the usage of the words sweetheart and honey are acceptable for women for example). People in relationships have rules for each other when it comes to relationships with the opposite sex. Also if someone who is familiar with the Japanese culture would make it clear for me, I've heard that some work places will take offense if someone declines the offer of going out with the coworkers. Is this true? The point I'm making with that is many of us will see that as dumb. Everyone doesn't socialize the same way, but if it's not damaging work rep or performance why do those little things matter? --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:907153367] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>as opposed to this snowflake muslim whos throwing a hissy over not getting a job despite having every opportunity to?</quote> I mean we were just having topics here about asians being discriminated by colleges based on personality. Refusing to hire someone because of a handshake just seems silly if they were qualified for the position.</quote> Would you be okay with an employer who not hiring someone who openly said "I think women are inferior to men?" Because that's what is happening here. It's not just the simple gesture of the handshake, it's the implication of why this woman can't touch a man's hand.</quote> If that type of thinking is going to have an effect on the business or his work than sure I can't argue with the business. They have the right to refuse both, but the lack of a handshake being the dealbreaker just seems silly. I'd also add that people in the USA still have different approaches on how they treat each other due to sex that we don't consider offensive. The way we speak (the usage of the words sweetheart and honey are acceptable for women for example). People in relationships have rules for each other when it comes to relationships with the opposite sex. Also if someone who is familiar with the Japanese culture would make it clear for me, I've heard that some work places will take offense if someone declines the offer of going out with the coworkers. Is this true? The point I'm making with that is many of us will see that as dumb. Everyone doesn't socialize the same way, but if it's not damaging work rep or performance why do those little things matter?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 08/19/18 11:11:34 AM #77:	Rika_Furude posted... who cares if a muslim doesn't get a job "just because" they won't integrate into our culture? thats their problem, not ours Yes. Then they refuse to perform hair waxing or laser hair removal on a male because theyre Muslim, or refuse to serve certain foods in the menu because they have bacon or pork, they refuse to serve your table because you got a dog even though the restaurant is dog friendly, etc. If they cant give a simple fucking handshake they will refuse to do a lot more things as well. Somebody who cant even shake your hand wont touch the bacon that will go in your burger or wax your back. <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:907153543] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if a muslim doesn't get a job "just because" they won't integrate into our culture? thats their problem, not ours</quote> Yes. Then they refuse to perform hair waxing or laser hair removal on a male because theyre Muslim, or refuse to serve certain foods in the menu because they have bacon or pork, they refuse to serve your table because you got a dog even though the restaurant is dog friendly, etc. If they cant give a simple fucking handshake they will refuse to do a lot more things as well. Somebody who cant even shake your hand wont touch the bacon that will go in your burger or wax your back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 08/19/18 11:20:57 AM #78:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... EVEN AFTER they explained that touching strangers are against their religion Because religion is a garbage excuse that should never be accepted for anything. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:907153867] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>EVEN AFTER they explained that touching strangers are against their religion</quote> Because religion is a garbage excuse that should never be accepted for anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSextMachine 08/19/18 11:46:10 AM #79:	jborgan posted... Forlorn_Ass posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society. Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently. Now compare that to the sex abuse that goes on in muslim communities. --- If you are reading this chances are I am pooping. <cite>TheSextMachine posted [p:907154805] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Forlorn_Ass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society</quote> So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society.</quote> Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently.</quote> Now compare that to the sex abuse that goes on in muslim communities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fuparulez 08/19/18 12:34:43 PM #80:	Why the fuck are Christian bakers being sued for not promoting gay marriage? Funny how "It's their religious beliefs!!!!!" only works for certain religions --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! <cite>Fuparulez posted [p:907156668] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>Why the fuck are Christian bakers being sued for not promoting gay marriage? Funny how "It's their religious beliefs!!!!!" only works for certain religions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/19/18 12:39:45 PM #81:	Fuparulez posted... Why the fuck are Christian bakers being sued for not promoting gay marriage? Funny how "It's their religious beliefs!!!!!" only works for certain religions TC and the radical left in general are incredibly hateful towards Christians and give Muslims the benefit of the doubt simply as a matter of principle, regardless of evidence/enlightenments/etc. To the radical left, a Christian not wanting to let their 5 year old decide their gender is more violent and toxic to society than a Muslim who teaches his daughters to wear the veil --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:907156887] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote>Why the fuck are Christian bakers being sued for not promoting gay marriage? Funny how "It's their religious beliefs!!!!!" only works for certain religions</quote> TC and the radical left in general are incredibly hateful towards Christians and give Muslims the benefit of the doubt simply as a matter of principle, regardless of evidence/enlightenments/etc. To the radical left, a Christian not wanting to let their 5 year old decide their gender is more violent and toxic to society than a Muslim who teaches his daughters to wear the veil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 08/19/18 1:10:29 PM #82:	I just cannot understand identifying as a member of the far left and simultaneously supporting a religion that literally oppresses women. These people truly have no sanity. And let me guess, the counter argument will be "B-b-but Christianity!" As if that makes a difference. Fuck em both. --- PC (4k/60Hz and 1080p/144Hz) \| Switch \| Wii U \| Wii \| GC \| N64 \| SNES \| NES \| PS4 Pro \| PS3 \| PS2 \| PS1 \| 360 \| N3DS \| DSi \| GBA \| GBC \| Vita \| PSP <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:907158300] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>I just cannot understand identifying as a member of the far left and simultaneously supporting a religion that literally oppresses women. These people truly have no sanity. And let me guess, the counter argument will be "B-b-but Christianity!" As if that makes a difference. Fuck em both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/19/18 1:14:39 PM #83:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Fuparulez posted... Why the fuck are Christian bakers being sued for not promoting gay marriage? Funny how "It's their religious beliefs!!!!!" only works for certain religions TC and the radical left in general are incredibly hateful towards Christians and give Muslims the benefit of the doubt simply as a matter of principle, regardless of evidence/enlightenments/etc. To the radical left, a Christian not wanting to let their 5 year old decide their gender is more violent and toxic to society than a Muslim who teaches his daughters to wear the veil It's the soft bigotry of low expectations. Christians are expected to "know better" but Muslims are just poor brown sand people and we can't expect them to understand our ways. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:907158497] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote>Why the fuck are Christian bakers being sued for not promoting gay marriage? Funny how "It's their religious beliefs!!!!!" only works for certain religions</quote> TC and the radical left in general are incredibly hateful towards Christians and give Muslims the benefit of the doubt simply as a matter of principle, regardless of evidence/enlightenments/etc. To the radical left, a Christian not wanting to let their 5 year old decide their gender is more violent and toxic to society than a Muslim who teaches his daughters to wear the veil</quote> It's the soft bigotry of low expectations. Christians are expected to "know better" but Muslims are just poor brown sand people and we can't expect them to understand our ways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fhqwhgads 08/19/18 1:24:18 PM #85:	KStateKing17 posted... the words sweetheart and honey are acceptable for women for example No they aren't are you 80 or someting? --- Everybody to the Limit <cite>fhqwhgads posted [p:907158895] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>the words sweetheart and honey are acceptable for women for example</quote> No they aren't are you 80 or someting?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 08/19/18 2:23:20 PM #86:	fhqwhgads posted... KStateKing17 posted... the words sweetheart and honey are acceptable for women for example No they aren't are you 80 or someting? They aren't supposed to be, but I guess I'm just using my own experience for that because none of the women I've worked with (mostly the older ones) have never been reprimanded for that. --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:907161669] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>fhqwhgads posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>the words sweetheart and honey are acceptable for women for example</quote> No they aren't are you 80 or someting?</quote> They aren't supposed to be, but I guess I'm just using my own experience for that because none of the women I've worked with (mostly the older ones) have never been reprimanded for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jborgan 08/19/18 2:25:36 PM #87:	TheSextMachine posted... jborgan posted... Forlorn_Ass posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society. Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently. Now compare that to the sex abuse that goes on in muslim communities. How about I continue to say both are shit instead of trying to compare which religion rapes less and basing its value off of that. --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:907161755] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Forlorn_Ass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society</quote> So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society.</quote> Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently.</quote> Now compare that to the sex abuse that goes on in muslim communities.</quote> How about I continue to say both are shit instead of trying to compare which religion rapes less and basing its value off of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 08/19/18 2:26:49 PM #88:	Autocraticus posted... Why is this even an issue? In the article you posted: According to the Migration Policy Institute, in 2007 the Swiss federal government laid out, in the Ordinance on the Integration of Foreigners, stricter federal guidelines for the integration process of non-EU/EFTA citizens. The most important measures of integration, according to the ordinance, are mastery of a Swiss national language (German, French, Italian or Romansh) and speaking that language in the home. Other criteria include an understanding of Swiss social life and structure, Swiss laws and the legal system, and matters of community respect. If you are unaware of the policies and laws that have been in place for over a decade in the country you are trying to immigrate to, whose fault is that? How are they going to verify that? And how does one define mastery? Like, IMO those people with signs at trump rallies havent mastered English (president good for jerbs! Democrats are racialist!) <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:907161808] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Autocraticus posted...</cite> <quote>Why is this even an issue? In the article you posted: <quote>According to the Migration Policy Institute, in 2007 the Swiss federal government laid out, in the Ordinance on the Integration of Foreigners, stricter federal guidelines for the integration process of non-EU/EFTA citizens. The most important measures of integration, according to the ordinance, are mastery of a Swiss national language (German, French, Italian or Romansh) and speaking that language in the home. Other criteria include an understanding of Swiss social life and structure, Swiss laws and the legal system, and matters of community respect.</quote> If you are unaware of the policies and laws that have been in place for over a decade in the country you are trying to immigrate to, whose fault is that?</quote> How are they going to verify that? And how does one define mastery? Like, IMO those people with signs at trump rallies havent mastered English (president good for jerbs! Democrats are racialist!)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSextMachine 08/19/18 2:56:27 PM #89:	jborgan posted... TheSextMachine posted... jborgan posted... Forlorn_Ass posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society. Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently. Now compare that to the sex abuse that goes on in muslim communities. How about I continue to say both are shit instead of trying to compare which religion rapes less and basing its value off of that. How about no. One is actually moving forward in time and slowly adapting while the other just stagnates in the stone age and gets coddled by the left. --- If you are reading this chances are I am pooping. <cite>TheSextMachine posted [p:907163241] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Forlorn_Ass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society</quote> So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society.</quote> Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently.</quote> Now compare that to the sex abuse that goes on in muslim communities.</quote> How about I continue to say both are shit instead of trying to compare which religion rapes less and basing its value off of that.</quote> How about no. One is actually moving forward in time and slowly adapting while the other just stagnates in the stone age and gets coddled by the left.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jborgan 08/19/18 2:57:56 PM #90:	TheSextMachine posted... jborgan posted... TheSextMachine posted... jborgan posted... Forlorn_Ass posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society. Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently. Now compare that to the sex abuse that goes on in muslim communities. How about I continue to say both are shit instead of trying to compare which religion rapes less and basing its value off of that. How about no. One is actually moving forward in time and slowly adapting while the other just stagnates in the stone age and gets coddled by the left. Raping over 1,000 kids = Moving forward in time. No, I'll just say both are shit. --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:907163298] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Forlorn_Ass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> stone age religious beliefs from a literal patriarchy have no place in civilized society</quote> So you admit that Christianity has no place in civilized society.</quote> Christianity has reformed itself and is decent compared to Islam.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html No it isn't. It's all shit and needs to go away permanently.</quote> Now compare that to the sex abuse that goes on in muslim communities.</quote> How about I continue to say both are shit instead of trying to compare which religion rapes less and basing its value off of that.</quote> How about no. One is actually moving forward in time and slowly adapting while the other just stagnates in the stone age and gets coddled by the left.</quote> Raping over 1,000 kids = Moving forward in time. No, I'll just say both are shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 08/19/18 2:59:10 PM #91:	Skye Reynolds posted... If your religion literally won't let you touch people, it's time to find a new religion. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:907163367] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>If your religion literally won't let you touch people, it's time to find a new religion.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSextMachine 08/19/18 3:11:03 PM #92:	jborgan posted... Raping over 1,000 kids = Moving forward in time. That is just a fraction of a fraction of Christianity. But Christianity has plenty of sects that accept gays, let gays serve, and let women serve. --- If you are reading this chances are I am pooping. <cite>TheSextMachine posted [p:907164008] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote> Raping over 1,000 kids = Moving forward in time. </quote> That is just a fraction of a fraction of Christianity. But Christianity has plenty of sects that accept gays, let gays serve, and let women serve.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/19/18 3:28:51 PM #93:	The child abuse scandal in the Catholic church is despicable, but the key difference is that the religious leadership (the pope in particular) has denounced it, making clear that it does not represent the religion: https://www.npr.org/2018/08/16/639380193/pope-francis-expresses-shame-and-sorrow-over-latest-abuse-allegations On the other hand, misogyny and homophobia are not only not denounced by Islamic leadership, they're encouraged and even codified legally in regions where they have a strong enough political presence. For example, after the Pakistani government passed a law to crack down on men beating the shit out of their wives, the Islamic Council handed out pamphlets explaining how men could still "lightly beat them" without technically violating the law: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/26/pakistani-husbands-can-lightly-beat-their-wives-islamic-council-says/ The religions are not comparable in any form, and the intellectually honest position is to acknowledge that one is significantly more destructive in the modern day than the other. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:907164913] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>The child abuse scandal in the Catholic church is despicable, but the key difference is that the religious leadership (the pope in particular) has denounced it, making clear that it does not represent the religion: https://www.npr.org/2018/08/16/639380193/pope-francis-expresses-shame-and-sorrow-over-latest-abuse-allegations On the other hand, misogyny and homophobia are not only not denounced by Islamic leadership, they're encouraged and even codified legally in regions where they have a strong enough political presence. For example, after the Pakistani government passed a law to crack down on men beating the shit out of their wives, the Islamic Council handed out pamphlets explaining how men could still "lightly beat them" without technically violating the law: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/26/pakistani-husbands-can-lightly-beat-their-wives-islamic-council-says/ The religions are not comparable in any form, and the intellectually honest position is to acknowledge that one is significantly more destructive in the modern day than the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/19/18 3:48:59 PM #94:	--- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907165895] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/19/18 5:00:26 PM #95:	So why doesnt this muslim woman have the decency and self respect to return a handshake again? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:907169772] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>So why doesnt this muslim woman have the decency and self respect to return a handshake again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/19/18 5:04:25 PM #96:	jborgan posted... Raping over 1,000 kids = Moving forward in time. No, I'll just say both are shit. You're right to critical of all religious and all factions with incredible social and legal power. You're wrong to pretend they are all equal. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:907169990] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote>Raping over 1,000 kids = Moving forward in time. No, I'll just say both are shit.</quote> You're right to critical of all religious and all factions with incredible social and legal power. You're wrong to pretend they are all equal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 08/19/18 5:30:57 PM #97:	The Admiral posted... Islamic Council handed out pamphlets explaining how men could still "lightly beat them" without technically violating the law: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/26/pakistani-husbands-can-lightly-beat-their-wives-islamic-council-says/ woow what a religion --- https://imgur.com/hEL2qQYh https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/FA2GxDS https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn <cite>ModLogic posted [p:907171511] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Islamic Council handed out pamphlets explaining how men could still "lightly beat them" without technically violating the law: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/26/pakistani-husbands-can-lightly-beat-their-wives-islamic-council-says/</quote> woow what a religion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NepGear462 08/19/18 5:31:52 PM #98:	Conform to the superior culture or BTFO <cite>NepGear462 posted [p:907171549] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote>Conform to the superior culture or BTFO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 08/19/18 5:31:54 PM #99:	Rika_Furude posted... So why doesnt this muslim woman have the decency and self respect to return a handshake again? She did, with the heartfelt gesture of placing palm over one's heart. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:907171551] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>So why doesnt this muslim woman have the decency and self respect to return a handshake again?</quote> She did, with the heartfelt gesture of placing palm over one's heart.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/19/18 5:43:55 PM #100:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... Rika_Furude posted... So why doesnt this muslim woman have the decency and self respect to return a handshake again? She did, with the heartfelt gesture of placing palm over one's heart. Imagine if someone refused to ever touch black people. Would you still think businesses should hire that person? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:907172213] in Why the fu... [t:76916108]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>So why doesnt this muslim woman have the decency and self respect to return a handshake again?</quote> She did, with the heartfelt gesture of placing palm over one's heart.</quote> Imagine if someone refused to ever touch black people. Would you still think businesses should hire that person?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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